QUESTION:  In your book Jehovah Himself Has Become King, in the chapter on Revelation, you wrote: Contrary to presently prevailing assumptions, Jehovah’s Witnesses have not gotten out of Babylon the Great. That is because Jehovah’s Witnesses have not even gone into exile yet! Babylon the Great is yet to conquer Jehovah’s people. That will come about as a result of the king of the north moving into the land of the Decoration. Just as when Nebuchadnezzar’s armies sacked Jerusalem’s holy temple and dragged the Jews off into exile, it will seem as if Jehovah God is inferior to the gods of the nations that support the eighth king, which is what the king of the north eventually becomes during the time of the end.”  

I think you are messing things a little bit here. You seem to imply that in the grander/final fulfillment, Babylon the Great is the king of the north. Since the king of the north enters the land of Decoration, so it is, that, Jehovah’s Witnesses will go into exile in the Babylon the Great. 

Revelation, however, does not depict Babylon the Great as an INVADER but as a HARLOT (that is, religious harlot). It is true that Babylon played the role of an INVADER during Nebuchadnezzar’s reign, but that does not seem to be the case in Revelation. Revelation draws its symbolism from what Babylon was as a BABEL of doctrines/devilish practices. It is the mother of harlots (Rev 17:5). 

Therefore, I think the Society’s interpretation regarding the command to “get out of her, my people” is not without basis. I mean, even if it is in the future, God commands those who ultimately make up his people, to get out of Babylon if they wish to be saved. I hope you understand my question. If you think I’m wrong, please explain.

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The Scriptures refer to that attack as well as the attack of ‘Gog of Magog,’ the attack of “the king of the north,” and the attack of “the kings of the earth.” Do these represent separate attacks? Not necessarily. The Bible could be referring to the same attack under different names. 

arch bishop of Canterbury Incidentally, the November, 2013, Watchtower (paragraph 16) connects the king of the north with the 8th king of Revelation (referred to as “the kings of the earth”),a connection put forward by e-watchman some years ago. Although the Watchtower continues to declare its mystification over the actual identity of the king of the north, it now has cautiously implied that the king of the north will be the same entity as the kings of the earth that are under the authority of the eighth king when Babylon the great is destroyed and immediately prior to their confrontation with God’s kingdom. 

Note: Sorry for the poor sound quality. I am not in my usual studio.



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