Podcast, Episode #75

//Podcast, Episode #75

Questions regarding the seven empires and the eighth king. Will the great crowd really come out of the great tribulation? What is the meaning of the various time periods in Daniel, 2,300, 1290, 1335 days etc? Also, are Jehovah’s Witnesses the only ones who will be saved? 

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2017-03-14T09:51:02+00:00 March 13th, 2017|Podcasts|28 Comments
  • Luis Rivera Aldarondo

    Wouldn’t members of Christendom be resurrected in the ressurection of unrighteousness?

    Wouldn’t anyone have a fair chance at surviving Armageddon when the two witnesses arrive to minister for 3.5 years? They torment the Earth and preach the good news of the kingdom to the entire inhabited Earth. These two witnesses bring reformation with them, at this point the Jehovah’s witnesses will be no more, as the constant feature has been removed. If the two witnesses keep the name “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, or they change it. Anyone who isn’t part of it will be destroyed at Armageddon either way.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Any body who willingly and knowingly supports false religion or the the eighth king during the final days will be facing internal death.
      Armageddon, or before?
      https://e-watchman.com/armageddon/

      Who Will Weep and Gnash Their Teeth?.
      Excerpt:
      “The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen.” — Matthew 13:41-43
      As regards the uprooting of the “weeds,” Jesus clearly stated that during the finale the angels will collect out from his Kingdom persons practicing lawlessness. So, those who are collected out will be people who are in “his Kingdom” — that is to say, in his congregation.
      “That is how it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. The angels will go out and separate the wicked from among the righteous and will cast them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be.” — Matthew 13:49-50
      https://e-watchman.com/who-will-weep/

  • rajan

    Refer to Exodus ch 12 verses 37 and 38 when the Israelites were rescued by Jehovah God also a vast company of non-Israelites including Egyptians went with them.
    A similar situation will ensue after the great tribulation which is shortly to come upon the earth.
    The Lord Jesus promised that anyone who does good to his even the least of his brothers who are on the earth will receive everlasting life – this includes ANYONE
    We who are servants of the Most High God are held to a more stringent standard and the those who are sons and daughters i.e. anointed ones are held to a very stringent level as they are to become immortal
    Kings and priests

  • Francis Bencharles

    When the dust settles on the other side of Armageddon, I think that you will be surprised that there will be more than Jehovah’s Witnesses who are saved. It is not the preaching work of Jehovah’s Witnesses that does the separating work in the last days, but it is the angels who do. They know who is in a salvation covenant with God and who isn’t. Some will even be selected for the love that they show to Christ’s brothers during the period of the mark. Did they show love for them and offer them food or shelter or maybe just a sip of water when their lives were at stake. During the time of the mark actions such as those will no doubt be capital offenses. I know you actually believe that only JW’s will be saved, but you will indeed be surprised when many of Jehovah’s Witnesses are not there and people from other religions are.

    • Joseph Stephan

      I have to agree with you on this Francis ! There’s going to be two camps, one with the mark and one without , and a multitude of clueless zombies.

      • Southern ShaSha

        Again, as often happens, hung up on a play of words. If we look to what we see in scripture, the ones who will receive hope and blessings are in fact Jehovahs Witnesses. Categorizing is what we like to do. But in reality, those searching for the truth of God and the relationship with his son, the provision through Him, that is Christ Jesus. Jehovah provides His name, Christ Jesus states we must be witnesses, or sharers of this truth, Gods Kingdom. So process of elimination, who on the planet is doing this? So we must ask why Christ Jesus made the statement, to the masses, “get away from me, I never new you”. How many know, or dare to speak the name of our Heavenly Father, JEHOVAH, or give any importance to Him, that is how and why the trinity creed it’s way into the true meaning and relationship of He and His son.
        For anyone to go beyond the simplicity of scripture and insert their preconceived notions outside what the scriptures clearly state, whether they know the basic doctrine or not, by implying they have an understanding or knowledge or timing as to prophesy, are placing themselves into a judgement situation. Those wise in their own eyes had better take caution in the warnings. It’s a simple fact, we are told “no one knows the day or hour”. Robert, who we all realize has given uncountable hours to investigating scriptures admits even in this vodcast to not have all the prophetic answers, so why must anyone go beyond what is written.

        • Southern ShaSha

          My statement as to Jehovahs witnesses being the people that God recognizes as His own, meaning in that, those calling on the very name of Jehovah, those doing as instructed to be His witnesses, to tell and share with others, His Kingdom message for all sorts of men, is what I mean as His witnesses are the ones who will receive His blessings and for now have that hope. This is the meaning of His people. Give it any title you choose, but this is in fact the definition of His people according to Him.

          • Noe Namely

            As far as we are all concerned….only time will tell…..?

        • Southern ShaSha

          Sorry Joseph my comment was meant for Francis!

    • Southern ShaSha

      I certainly wish I could see into the future, so clearly as you seem to feel qualified to do.
      No offense intended, but know of no one that has these clear visions or understanding of what you say we will be surprised about! Maybe we will, time will tell, but let’s wait and see, we are in the present, the future remains to be in the future. Only Jehovah alone knows what the future events hold. It can be dangerous inserting opinions of what we do not know!!!

      • Francis Bencharles

        Of course it is my opinion, how can I give someone else’s opinion?

        • Southern ShaSha

          Francis, you know exactly what I meant. Your opinions come off as all knowing, as though you have a personal knowledge above and beyond what can easily be seen and understood scripturally. No one has all the answers Francis. We all have much to learn.

          • Francis Bencharles

            I agree with your last statement wholeheartedly. Talk is cheap. You must also walk the walk and be recognized by the King. I shouldn’t give my comments like I don’t know, should I? That wouldn’t be very inspiring would it. Robert gives his opinions with a bit of authority, or who would even listen?

            • Noe Namely

              I understood you just fine and did not take your comment as coming from anyone but you. I knew you were merely sharing your own thoughts…. I enjoyed your comments very much actually…got me to thinking and that’s always a good thing!

      • Noe Namely

        I took Francis BenCharles’ comment as his own. He did not claim that he found this in the Bible, other publication or assigning the comment to anyone but himself. I’m just saying…….

    • Bklyn Kevin

      At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial,
      but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
      Act 10:34-35

      For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. Romans 2:13.

      For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.”Matthew 12: 50.

    • Candice

      I have such a hard time understanding language, then as I read through comments, it does help me to understand. Until I run across a comment like this, Mr. Francis-this is completely confusing! I struggle so, not believing in Jehovah but learning and understanding the Bible, this is why I come to Mr. Kings site “trolling”, to listen, read and scroll comments! It breaks it down for those of us in the world that are just not scripturally sound, I hope there are not people on here out to confuse and misinform those of us just struggling Day to Day, trying to learn!

    • Ken Rosenberg

      It won’t come down to JWs or Babylon the great in the final moments. All those with the mark of the beast will be destroyed. So even those in false religions right now, will have a fair chance.

    • Simpletruth

      Let me first state that what I’m about to say is My Opinion. I am not forcing it upon anyone.

      I definitely agree and believe you are on the right track. I have read Romans Chapter 11 numerous times (amongst other scriptures) and that’s exactly what it appears to be referring to. Vs 8 talks about the “…spirit of deep sleep” that God has put his people into. If you look up the reference scripture from this verse it takes us to Isa 29: 10 which, as Bro King already pointed out, refers to prophecy regarding God’s people in this Time of the End.
      Vs. 11-12 refers to “…their false step” meaning “salvation to people of the nations”. Also in Vs. 25 it says: “For I do not want you to be unaware of this sacred secret, brothers, so that you do not become wise in your own eyes: A partial dulling of senses has come upon Israel until the full number of people of the nations has come in.”

      What do these verses mean if they don’t mean exactly what you are saying? Of course everything has to be taken into context but if no ‘prophecy springs from private interpretation’ and these versus refer back to other prophetic verses talking about the state of God’s people in the Time of The End what else could be the conclusion? I know that many of us believe that people’s response to the preaching work prior to the end will determine their ultimate fate. But why do we believe that and discount scriptures like this? For me, it’s because that what I was taught as a witness. If people have not come into the truth by the time the preaching work is done the doors will be closed and there is no hope for them.

      But didn’t Jehovah provide a way out for some Egyptians to be saved at the very last minute when his people fled out of Egypt? Those Egyptians were against the Israelites the whole time throughout the 10 plagues but at the very last minute they accepted the fact that Jehovah was with Israel and chose to go with them. If Jehovah allowed that then why do we suppose that He will be any different in our time? The bible clearly states that Jehovah’s Ways do not change…

  • Burt Reynolds

    That was a really good podcast and it is nice to be invited into your home. You make people welcome. ( nice cat). On the prophesy in Daniel, the 2,300 days…is it not a confirmation of that length of time to state that there is a morning and evening to each one, in just the same manner as Jehovah used the same Expression to determine the given length of each creative day. Given the possessive inference ( in English ) of a morning and an evening to constitute each ‘day’ does it not make it literal as it refers to one instance or devision of time, like an hour for instance, and is in keeping with Jehovah’s own manner of describing a given period of time as a day as a ‘morning and evening’? Is there a different inflexion to the term in the orginal language? Please would you explain your reasoning. Many thanks.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Regarding “Times and Seasons” – Part 3.
      Excerpt>
      The eighth chapter of Daniel also depicts a final king, described as being fierce in countenance, who will supplant his rivals and bring the holy ones to ruin, along with the constant feature, the sanctuary and the holy place of the Prince of princes. However, this portion of prophecy reveals that the last king will prevail for 2,300 evenings and mornings; after which, the holy place will be brought into its right condition.

      It is worth noting that during the creative days when the earth was being prepared for human habitation the account says that there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day, and a second day and so on. So that each creative day was specifically noted as having an evening and a morning, in that order. So, it is most likely that the 2,300-evenings and mornings is simply an encrypted way of saying 1,150-days, since each day is composed of one evening and one morning. And in this case one plus one really does equal one. Read more>
      https://e-watchman.com/regarding-times-and-seasons/

      • Burt Reynolds

        As you will know Kevin, maths does my head in. Yes I can see both uses of the term. But if evening and morning refers to one day in Genesis, then why different here? 2,300 mornings in isolation would refer to 2,300 days would it not? Likewise 2,300 evenings. Added together, or subtracted one from the other, it would still equal 2,300 days. If you unite evening and morning, it is still one day. I’m not trying to be obtuse, please don’t think that, but literally, I cannot see it. I need some plain reasoning in basic form. It’s like being colour blind for me. !

        • Bklyn Kevin

          One solar day consist of 24 HRS, now if you divided that solar day by two that would equal one 12 hour day and one 12 hour evening and 12+12 = one 24 hour day.

          You’re supposed to divide the 2,300 WHY? because of the wording Daniel used is the equivalent of a division. And the reason the 2,300 is divided is because Daniel divided a 24 hour Solar day by saying “(evenings and mornings) without using numbers but using words instead in order to show that there is a division to be made.

          In other words Daniel used the words to indicate that there is to be a division of the 2,300 instead of using a mathematical symbol .
          Its simply an “encrypted” way of saying 1,150-days, since each day is composed of one evening and one morning as Robert said.
          ( ÷ division sign / obelus division ) = (evenings and mornings)

          • Burt Reynolds

            Ahhh right! Thank you! Thank you. All is light. And it was a morning and an evening of my understanding.

          • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

            Can you put more light on this? Please kindly show me where is the wording Daniel used is the equivalent of a division?

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Scriptures in question.
              Daniel 8:
              13 And I got to hear a certain holy one speaking, and another holy one proceeded to say to the particular one who was speaking: “How long will the vision be of the constant [feature] and of the transgression causing desolation, to make both [the] holy place and [the] army things to trample on?”

              14 So he said to me: “Until two thousand three hundred evenings [and] mornings; and [the] holy place will certainly be brought into its right condition.”

              26 “And the thing seen concerning the evening and the morning, which has been said, it is true.And you, for your part,
              (keep secret the vision, because it is yet for many days.”)

              Most interpreters believe the 2,300 days are divided by two because Daniel divided the 24 hour solar day by saying (evenings and mornings) they think it’s the equivalent of the division symbol….
              Example. (evenings and mornings) = ( division sign ÷ )

              In other words they have transformed Daniel’s lateral words (evenings and mornings) into a mathematical symbol which expresses division in order to justify their dividing the 2,300 days into two parts.
              They think / theorized that Daniel used these words to indicate that there is to be a division of the 2,300 thus dividing it by two equaling 1,150.
              Now on a personal note I have not found any real solid scriptural evidence / support for this theory of the division other than what they have speculated.
              However I have my own thoughts concerning the 2,300 days in which I have not elaborated on to anyone.

              PS I will send you links / information in your e-mail concerning your questions in reference to the 1,260 days – 1,290 days – 1,335 days. Please give me a few days so I can get my paperwork and facts together and as soon as there ready I will send them to you.
              Thank you for your inquiry.

          • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

            You mean to say 1morning and 1 evening= one 12 hours period?
            Since a day consists of 24 hours, you mean to say that 2300 mornings and evenings mean 1morning and 1 evening =one 12 Hours
            and another 1 morning and one evening = another 12 Hours.

            Now should we add both = 24 hours = 1day?

            So 2300 morning and evening will be 1150 days?

            But how 1150 fits into 1260, 1290 and 1335 days
            If the holy place is to be trampled for 1150 days,
            then what will happen in the remaining 1290- 1150= 140 days
            or
            as per Revelation what will happen in the remaining 1260-1150=110 days.
            or
            again as per Daniel what will happen in the remaining 1335- 1150 = 185 days?
            Please take my email address easajw@gmail.com. Please put me more light on this, I am badly needed. Thanks a lot brother

  • Bklyn Kevin
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