Podcast #35

//Podcast #35

 

This program considers a call-in question regarding whether people of the world can still be saved during the tribulation. Also, questions about Enoch and Elijah going to heaven. Why did Thomas call Jesus “my Lord and my God”? (YouTube video on same question) And more….

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2016-12-08T15:12:47+00:00 October 6th, 2011|Podcasts|20 Comments
  • Bklyn Kevin

    How Will Zechariah 8:23 Be Fulfilled?
    Excerpt:
    The theme scripture for the study article is based up Zechariah 8:23, which states: “In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’”Read more>
    https://e-watchman.com/zechariah-823/

    • The Raven

      Well, that’s an interesting way to see this. But if judgement does not begin until the eighth king rules,which would be about 3.5 years from the beginnings of the pangs of distress then it would stand to reason that from the time the beast receives his mortal wound, war collapse and the horsemen riding until the eighth king rules there is still a possibility for salvation for some in the world by their faith. Since Jehovah’s people are given this chance at the collapse to follow Jehovah and Christ I would also say that can extend to others who may also see the truth of the matter. As Robert stated the horsemen claim one fourth of humanity but they go to Hades, not Gehenna, I would also reason that during that first 3.5 year part of a 7 year period some others may come to be in an approved state. Especially those who do good to Christ’s brothers. I cannot be certain they will all have been from among us alone. I am interested in your thoughts on this as well, Kevin.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        I feel as you do, and Robert has suggested that the door would be closed to salvation when the sword-stroke occurs and perhaps I might believe that but that just can’t be possible in my mind for the very reason that the eighth king is not on the scene enforcing his mark so yes I agree with your thought . I think there’s a window of opportunity during the pangs of distress, how long is that window opened? I’m not quite sure because there is an undetermined time period between the Sword stroke of the seven-headed wild beast and the installation of the Eighth King however I do suspect for Chronological scriptural reasons from The Book of Daniel that the 8th King will be installed on day 1,230 after the pangs of distress.

        Looking at them intently, Jesus said to them: “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.Matthew 19:26

        • Mick Hewitt

          May Rev15:2 help shed light on this most interesting and serious subject

        • Mick Hewitt

          I have not listened to all of The Watchman’s talks. Is there any reference to Isa66:7 and Rev12:5? You know when I read that there was to be a male child born to rule with an iron rod, after 40yrs in the tight pantedness of the w/t I thought well…bring it on.

          • Mick Hewitt

            There is an intense teaching programme going on here is there not?Rev12:14…post death stroke?

            • The Raven

              Something is happening during that interval between war and the ascendance of the eighth king. There will be anarchy and no one in power during that time. We know judgement begins with His house. But there is also a judgement for the world. To accept that the door closes once the beginnings of the pangs of distress occurs leaves no chance for anyone else’s salvation and that also implies that the preaching work the witnesses have done up til then will have been the dividing factor. That does not appear to be correct since prophecy related to Christ’s return clearly spells out an opportunity for others. The preaching work will stop as soon as war starts. Yet, Jehovah’s house is not only shaken but it is also given warnings and Edom and Moab are judged for how they treat “escapees”. That implies that a few at least from outside will be drawn and by their faith and treatment of Christ’s brothers may be saved. As Kevin said, I think it needs a closer examination.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            I will give it some research and as soon as I obtain some information I will gladly share it with you guys.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Christ is yet to appear. https://e-watchman.com/christ-yet-appear/

            The Prophets and the Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.
            https://e-watchman.com/prophets-second-coming-jesus-christ/

            The Woman and the Fiery Red Dragon.
            https://e-watchman.com/the-woman-and-the-fiery-red-dragon/

            Who Is the Woman of Prophecy?.
            https://e-watchman.com/woman-prophecy/

            Read alot more>
            Search results for: Isaiah. https://e-watchman.com/?s=+Isaiah

            Read a lot more>>
            Search results for: Revelation https://e-watchman.com/?s=revelation

        • i dont think thats what Robert has suggested. are you sure? seems Robert has said about the same thing you are

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Excerpt: Their saying “peace and security” immediately precedes nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom —in other words: world war three, which will destroy the present ordering of nations and bring down the Anglo-American duo – “sudden destruction.” And because that catastrophe will also bring about the sudden end of the Watchtower-sponsored, world-wide work, effectively closing the door of salvation, even the survivors of the global war, famine and pestilence will not escape the ultimate destruction at Armageddon. That is why Jesus reiterated his warning one last time, placing his thief-like coming as an immediate prelude to Armageddon, since the beginning of the conclusion will segue into the end in short order.Read more> https://e-watchman.com/lords-day-co

          • The Raven

            He did mention that but he also said in the podcast that when the beast suffers the sword stroke it’s too late. That is what isn’t quite adding up.

        • Burt Reynolds

          When is the death stroke again?! Is this at the beginnings of distress?

          • day 1. the day and hour

          • Bklyn Kevin

            The Lord’s Day is Coming Exactly as a Thief in the Night.

            Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape.1 Thessalonians 5:3.

            Excerpt: Their saying “peace and security” immediately precedes nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom —in other words: world war three, which will destroy the present ordering of nations and bring down the Anglo-American duo – “sudden destruction.” And because that catastrophe will also bring about the sudden end of the Watchtower-sponsored, world-wide work, effectively closing the door of salvation, even the survivors of the global war, famine and pestilence will not escape the ultimate destruction at Armageddon. That is why Jesus reiterated his warning one last time, placing his thief-like coming as an immediate prelude to Armageddon, since the beginning of the conclusion will segue into the end in short order.Read more> https://e-watchman.com/lords-day-co

            How will the end come for the Watchtower?.
            Excerpt: The coming of Christ will coincide with the world erupting in war, the spread of disease pandemics and widespread food shortages. Then, following swiftly will come the Crash – the complete collapse of the political and economic system. Jehovah’s Witnesses will then be subjected to an intense period of confusion and doubt. And as Jesus foretold, many will be stumbled. Although the Watchtower will be discredited and quite likely cease functioning as a Bible and tract publishing society, apparently it will still exist in some form. But at that point it will stand in complete opposition to Christ. It will then be an antichrist. Read more> https://e-watchman.com/how-will-the

            • Burt Reynolds

              Thanks. I will read more!

          • Bklyn Kevin
          • The Raven

            Yes. War, collapse, the dual anglo-american beast go down, the horsemen ride…all occur at the beginnings of the pangs of distress. That period of mayhem with anarchy lasts an unknown amount of time. After the “tribulation of those days” the eighth king rises and the image of the beast is worshipped. That’s when judgement begins, as far as some of us understand.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Don’t you wish there was a spiritual laxative that we could all take to hurry things along!!

            • The Raven

              OMG! Hahaha!

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