San Diego judge slaps $4,000 a-day fine on Watchtower

//San Diego judge slaps $4,000 a-day fine on Watchtower

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The Watchtower’s Legal Department has been fighting for quite a few years to keep their records private. Although they exhort Jehovah’s Witnesses to obey the superior authorities – as the apostle Paul called them – as long as their laws and edicts do not contravene God’s laws, the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses apparently consider the Watchtower to be superior to the superior authorities. Now though they are going to have to start paying for the privilege. 

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A San Diego Superior Court judge has ordered the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses, also known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, Osbaldo Padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.

In a June 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge Richard Strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 Body of Elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.

Over the course of the past year, the Watchtower Society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.

In March 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter. Opposing attorneys called the redactions excessive, rendering the document illegible. Judge Strauss then assigned a discovery referee to sit with the two sides. But having a referee involved didn’t solve matters. Repeatedly, the Watchtower Society has stated that it will not comply with the order.

“By the time of the hearing on the motion for sanctions, it will have been over a year since the initial order and almost three months since the

[referee’s recommendation] was adopted,” reads Strauss’s ruling. “In the period since…Watchtower has shown no effort or willingness to comply with the discovery order.

“Based upon the history in this case and Watchtower’s statements…the court finds that Watchtower’s failure to comply is willful…Watchtower clearly has control over the documents it has already produced and could revise the redactions with regard to those documents. This is obviously and clearly within the scope of Watchtower’s powers which it chooses not to exercise. Continuing to repeat its prior unsuccessful arguments in opposition to the discovery order further illustrates Watchtower’s obstinacy in compliance.”

In 2014 a San Diego Superior Court judge awarded 37-year-old José Lopez $13.5 million for damages as a result of sexual abuse he suffered at the hands of longtime church member Gonzalo Campos. In that case the judge found that church headquarters was aware of sexual abuse by church leaders and had tried to cover up the abuse. The church is in the process of appealing the decision.

The case was one of several against Campos.

Gonzalo Campos, Jehovah's Witness pedophile elderPadron filed his lawsuit in 2013. In his lawsuit, Padron claims that the church was aware of Campos’s abuse, dating as far back as 1982 when his 12-year-old roommate accused the then-18-year-old Campos of trying to have sex with him. The abuse, claims Padron and others, continued; and, during that time church leaders at the Playa Pacific Spanish Congregation in Linda Vista continued to give Campos more of a leadership role in the congregation.

From 1987 to 1994, Campos was accused of numerous assaults. In 1994 a parent of one of Campos’s alleged victims wrote a letter to the congregation and church headquarters requesting an investigation. The letter did little. That same year was when the abuse began for Padron. According to his 2013 complaint, Campos molested Padron on numerous occasions from 1994 to 1995.

Two years later, the church sent their Body of Elders letter to congregations worldwide. The contents of the letter have never been made public, and it is unclear whether Campos was one of the members accused of sexually assaulting children.

Now, with Strauss’s ruling, it appears that the church may be forced to change its tack. A civil trial is scheduled for August 19.

Padron’s attorneys did not respond to requests for comment.

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2016-12-08T15:10:12+00:00 June 25th, 2016|JW News|83 Comments
  • Joel Sherrod

    Wow! The Watchtower sexual abuse nd paedophile claims are now just as big as the Catholic Church’s problem—or so it appears. What is so sad, however, is that the average brother or sister in the congregation is in the dark as to the scope of the allegations; pervasive and worldwide.I will never forget about 5 years ago, while in field service, I once talked to a sister about what she thinks about Barbara Anderson on NBC’s Dateline program alleging the Watchtower cover-up of rampant child abuse. I will never forget her response to me, she said: “I don’t think much about it because it’s all just apostates and Christendom making up lies about Jehovah’s Organization.” At that time I did not push the topic too much further in fear that she would think something I’ll of me (like reading or sympathizing with apostates). But I new then that the average JW has no idea of the magnitude of this problem. The Watchtower is doing a great, if not sad, job of pulling the wool over the eyes of millions sincere JW’s. So very sad. But it will all come out big time publically soon. Right?

    • ewatchman

      Count on it. “For there is nothing hidden except for the purpose of being exposed; nothing has become carefully concealed but for the purpose of coming into the open. Whoever has ears to listen, let him listen.” – Jesus Christ, Mark 4:22-23

      • The Ancient Witness

        Just food for people that call themselves Christians:: >>EACH person that has dedicated himself/herself to Jehovah God has a spiritual obligation to SPEAK UP about these evil acts of deception and crimes against children and others. To try and reason and do anything less is a sin in itself. See something, come into greater knowledge, speak up and at least TRY to save people from the evil that these men do. If not, are you not just as guilty as the perpatraitor of a crime? Of course you are! By man’s law and God’s law! If any person does not stand up for justice and the victims of these crimes, these same do-nothing types are not worthy of the freely given forgiveness offered by Jesus Christ. In other words, you failed your personal test!

        • Burt Reynolds

          What would you suggest? I’m open to suggestions.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Matthew 10:
            16 “Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves.
            11 “Into whatever city or village you enter, “search out who in it is deserving”, and stay there until you leave.
            12 When you enter the house, greet the household. / [ spiritual brother or sister]
            13 If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you.
            14 Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, “shake the dust off your feet.”
            15 Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah on Judgment Day than for that city.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Kevin, I did plenty of that as a younger person. I need a sedentary method now, without a car!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I hear that..
              You could create a face book page as well as a google account and advertise Robert king’s articles.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Happy to do that. I’ll investigate and let you know. Thanks.

        • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

          I’m an active JW. I posted this news article on my public page. I have many many witness friends. I will see what happens now. I agree with you. I just can’t keep protecting this horror anymore. If my brothers and sisters are fine with placing watchtowers and awakes that point the finger at the Catholics, I shouldn’t be afraid to shed light on my own organization.

          • Kevin b

            Well it is a news story. But don’t be surprised when the eyebrows are raised, and the unfriending begins. JWs are fully convinced that anything said or done against watchtower is like touching the eyeball of Jehovah. Next question is where did you hear about this? Don’t say watchmans post. I’m not trying to get in your business. I just know how cruel JWs are when you put the spotlight on there so called spotless religion. They don’t have a clue. You are bold sister.

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              I agree. I haven’t directed any real-truth-curious witnesses to this site. But I look at it this way: most of my “friendships” are shallow, conditional, and judgey anyway. I’m at the point in my life now that if I can’t speak truth with a person, then I guess we’re not ready to be true friends. I’m praying to Jehovah for courage and thinking about the innocent little kids (and their parents) who are in possible danger. Or the thousands of kids who already suffered in this organization while we the adults weren’t equipped to protect them against the bigger machine.

            • Annie

              I sent you a FB friend request, Alexandra, I hope that’s okay with you. I applaud you for posting this article & I will do the same. I don’t have many Witness friends, but of those I do I really don’t believe any of them ever read my ‘Truth’ posts.People these days are too much interested in themselves to be interested in others posts.

            • Volcanic

              I changed my name here btw., but I’m still me 🙂

            • Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha, you’ll always been volcano Annie to me !!????????

            • Volcanic

              sssh, I’m invisible now! mwaabwaahahaaaaa

            • ?? I don’t know where I’m a gunna- go when the volcano blows ??

            • Volcanic

              got no real reply to that because I’m still laughing. Not often I’m speechless, you scored a goal there, Joseph.

            • Think I’m going to change my name,
              Smooth as Butter , ha ha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha

            • Volcanic

              do you think that in the ‘new world’ we will be allowed, just once, to bop people on the nose for things they said in this old system? If so, Mr Smooth as Butter, watch your back, a woman has never been known to forget things 😉

            • Absolutely, Jehovah will allow you one bop ?

            • Volcanic

              great, I owe you one then! Now, get on with your holiday, I’m reading Roberts book, though I should be in bed. I have less sleep than ever since I found this site :'(
              Where do you find your little emoticons?

            • Song of Hannah

              If you get a chance, put earbuds in and listen to the audio versions of the chapters. Really gives you the feel of what was written!

            • Volcanic

              I’ll do that, Hannah, thank you. I’m getting pretty blown away by what I’m reading already – it all seems so sensible after what we have been falsely taught. When I first heard the truth it was from my sister-in law & we were staying in a cottage in Ireland. She witnessed to me for 6 hours until she could take no more of my questions, then she went upstairs & shouted down to me “here, if you want more read these” I was nearly knocked out with the stuff she threw down the stairs! I read everything within a couple of weeks then plucked up courage to go the the KH after the meeting. A lovely sister collared me & ‘pitched’ me for a Bible study. That sister was on crutches & I always said that I was dragged into the Truth by the hooked end of a crutch! Those were wonderful days, that congregation has to be one of the best & most loving of them all.

            • Burt Reynolds

              My first congregation was like living in the workhouse. Everything I did was watched, anything I said was scrutinised. If I said anything off the cuff, I was told not to be flippant. I was even told off for slouching in my chair. We had those nasty plastic seats that were torture to sit on and cut the circulation from your legs. I remember the lights used to hang from the ceiling by a thread of electric cable and occasionally spark. The ceiling was made of fibreboard and bowed in a damp arch. The roof was corrogated asbestos tiles. We all trusted in Jehovah to hold them up. He did too! Sadly there was no love in the congregation, just backbiting, jealousy and rivalry…..but at least it was genuine backbiting, jealousy and rivalries.i think that is why my sister has hung on for 50 years…..sigh. THIS is the best congregation now. Feels like coming home.

            • So true my sister!???

            • Burt Reynolds

              Well it certainly won’t be nut free!

            • So true Brother Burt, good one !

            • Burt Reynolds

              Not an invisible presence surely? Will you be revealed later as the true Annie?

            • Song of Hannah

              I think that was a smart move, hun. I’ve edited my earlier welcome post to replace your old name with your new name. ??

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              One of my “friends” (who subsequently deleted me this morning) asked on my fb page “why would you post this?”
              This was my public answer:

              “Hi Josh! Thank you for asking me. I didn’t post this casually and plenty of “uncomfortable” (fear, guilt, shame, anger, doubt, and more fear) feelings came up.

              But ultimately (after praying) I decided this is too important to sweep under the rug. Sadly, this is only the tip of an iceberg. (Of child abuse inquiries and multi million dollar settlements) Shouldn’t I, as a JW, be aware of this? We point the finger at Catholics in our magazines, so isn’t my responsibility to apply the principle at Matthew 7:3?

              Mark 4:21-23 is what moved me to post this last night. (The short answer to your question!)

              Again, thanks for asking. Im very much an active witness BTW. I love all my brothers and sisters and my good God Jehovah and his perfect Son and King Jesus. I’m certainly praying for the day when newspapers will only have positive news to publish. We’re not quite there yet, so in the meantime I try to be positive and upbuilding whenever possible, but truth is truth. The Israelites were not ignorant of their King’s (like David) wrongdoings. Don’t we as Jehovah’s Witnesses look worse when we deny that problems like this exist? Being informed is not a crime.”

            • Burt Reynolds

              I think it was a brave thing to do, but I do not see that you need to excuse your actions by telling them that you prayed about it. That is between you and Jehovah. You took the truth to them. When Christ spoke to the pharrasees he did not justify himself he told them straight. Your actions are of Jehovah and his command to warn and to preach so that eyes can be opened and so you can be confident that you acted out of the need to witness. For their part, they are blinded and serve men, and few are awake to see the light. I admire your courage and you are an example to me.

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              Thank you very much for your words Burt. I just got a private message from a JW telling me:

              “Sorry Ali but you have a responsibility to make sure you have all the facts before sharing something like this. I was shocked to read this and very surprised you would share it on this format. Is it true? I don’t know. Can we trust information from the media? Certainly not always. It’s certainly a format for apostates to jump on and give their very biased opinions. You should take it down immediately.”

              I was going to try and call the reporter in San Diego, but I’m off to work now.

              I’m going to call this dear sister tomorrow, but can y’all please share some scriptures or other information with me to relate to her?

              I don’t think I should take the newspaper post down, because I do think it’s true.

            • make sure you have all the facts? implying some facts could be missing.

              ask the WT pocketbook if its true or not lol, is it missing $4,000 a day? ha thats funny

            • Burt Reynolds

              Coo!

            • Sam

              In other words “i don’t like this, it’s inconvenient for me so it must be wrong” a good question is- if it was about any other religious organization would she have the same dismissive attitude? From what i can tell sandiegoreader is a pretty good source. Just realize it’s very hard for our brothers to come to terms with. It raises all sorts of questions for them

            • Sam

              but i must say, you are much braver than i lol

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Here’s the case number from the San Diego County Court House Ali if you interested in forwarding it. I don’t know how much proof they need, possibly more since JW’s are hard to crack. You might want to suggest something like, Israel had broken the covenant several times and ask them if they see a parallel, otherwise they’ll never be able to connect the dots.

              Case Number: 37-2013-00067529-CU-PO-CTL

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              How did you get that case number? Wow. Cool. (Not cool such a sad case exists)

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              This type of stuff is usually public information and not really to hard to find.
              Anyways, with the suggestion I made, you might want to tone it down and use your own words, it might be too extreme for them, mix it up a bit. Be careful out there.

            • if anyone is daring enough, write this case number on a small letter saying something to the effect that it is CLEAR that our money donation is going to something other then what is advertised on the contribution boxes to choose from. this is dishonest. although i am glad to help victoms of anyone abused throughout the kingdom halls, nobody has been giving their money to the Watchtower via these contribution boxes to pay court fines and fees. then wrap that note in a dollar and drop it in the local needs box. without finger prints

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              haha! yeah that may be a good idea but unfortunately it would have to fall in the right hands, and usually anything from a MS on up is considered to be in the “society man” realm. But you never know.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Actually Ali, THEY have a responsibility to check it for themselves to keep checking they are in the truth. If you phone her, tell her so, you can point to the Boreans who checked out the scriptures before making a reply. When I wrote to my sister about things learnt here, she wanted to speak with the brothers rather than check it out from the bible. You planted, but Jehovah will make it grow. It’s better if your friend checks it out for herself. Tell her To disprove it,rather than run after her and simply have to have another argument at the next hurdle. Just point her to the bible experiences, and give her the number of the journalist, or the court dealing with the case. My opinion only…..you do what you think best but let us know the outcome though!

            • thats called making the truth your own

            • because its the truth. hellloooo

            • Kevin b

              I figured that would happen. JWs are gonna have to see for themselves the hypocrisy and corruption of the GB. Once this information is in the mainstream media it will be easier for them to except. JWs pretty much have the opinion that the elders and the GB can do absolutely no wrong. Heaven forbid anyone say anything against them. Instead of being upset at the message you posted, you the messenger are the bad guy, it make no since, but it is what it is. Hope it works out ok.

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              It is in the mainstream media….this is what boggles my mind! But that’s why a WTelite is repeatedly told “dont trust the media.” Where’s that scripture…..”what’s wrong is right, what was bad is good.”

              Someone very very dear to me just left a voicemail telling me to take down the post. This was my public FB response. (Apologies to all of you who may despise fb)

              “Hello friends. After more consideration, it would trouble MY conscience if I removed this post. This issue is sadly an inconvenient truth. One of the reasons why we as Jehovah’s Witnesses tell people to trust the Bible is because it is so candid. Faithful men of old (like David, Moses, Peter, and Paul) didn’t hide the unpleasant chapters of their history. The case number for this ongoing case is 37-2013-00067529-CU-PO-CTL
              My prayers go out to Osbaldo Padron. He is one of the victims.”

            • Kevin b

              When I say main stream, I mean on fox news, cnn, nbc, abc. I can only find a few sources running it now. It will get more wide spread notice soon I hope.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good, Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!.

              Isaiah 5:20. Read more>https://e-watchman.com/woe-to-the-watchtower-society/

            • ewatchman

              You rock, girl!

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              Thank you…lol. I have a few good days. Ultimately I took the link down. One of my elders told me I could be guilty of stumbling Jesus little sheep. I spoke up, but I know it’s time to retreat again. King David hid in the caves and I’ll follow his example until it’s safe to come out…when Jesus actually comes!

            • ewatchman

              It is always the little “publishers” that are warned not to stumble anyone. Meanwhile, the WT stumbles JW’s by the truck load and no one is allowed to say a word about it.

            • Song of Hannah

              Probably a smart move for now, Hun. But loved how you added your concern for the victim. ❤️

            • Bklyn Kevin

              questions regarding how to go forward in the knowledge of the Watchtower Society’s errors.
              Podcast #14
              https://e-watchman.com/podcast-14/

            • what was his explanation of how thats going to stumble little sheep?

              if the WT can advertise child abuse of other religious churches and places in its publications then why not about its own kingdom halls?
              that is hypocritical! its ok to point out rape in one place but not another? how does he figure?

            • Song of Hannah

              Beautiful!

          • Consider this, for example, as to how faith in the organization is considered to be paramount, even transcending faith in Jehovah and Jesus: If one of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to confess to an elder that he had lost faith in God and the Bible, likely every effort would be made to restore that person’s faith. If, however, that same person were to admit that they no longer believed that the Watchtower is Jehovah’s organization, or that they do not believe some teaching of “the faithful slave,” even though they may still believe the Bible, such a person would likely be accused of apostasy and perhaps expelled from the congregation. One member of the Governing Body is quoted as saying that even thinking thoughts counter to the teachings of the Watchtower Society constitutes unfaithfulness.

          • noname

            Thats very brave. I’ve sent articles like these to my mom and dad, my mom responds, but my dad completely ignores it , I don’t think he can handle it. Most can’t handle even the thought , their whole world would shatter right before them, they have no way to comprehend how there could be an evil slave operating from within Christs Congregation.

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              I regularly reread 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12. That scripture helps me so much when the clouds of confusion try to rain on my coherent moments (which thankfully are more often thanks to this site and all you wonderful “iron brothers and sisters.”)

      • Song of Hannah

        Really think things are going to start unraveling from here on out. I can’t help but take note of how all the facets of end prophecy seem all set to come together, all at once…

  • The Ancient Witness

    Dare I post the Truth that needs to be said? >>> $4,000 per day is a lot of money to us but to the Watchtower
    it is chicken feed. The fine should be One million per day until they
    comply. Also, mandatory jail time for the Governing Body of Elders and
    many others, until they comply. Sound harsh? Nope! Just being
    reasonable as they have been over the many decades of deceit, lies and blatant
    self righteous delusions of Godhood from these openly arrogant men! So
    many brothers and sisters have been hurt, stumbled and even committed suicide
    because of the intentional deceptive false teachings and downright evil acts of
    this BUSINESS. Also, consider the
    millions of people that have walked away from God altogether directly because
    of this money making publishing business.
    YES! Millions of people have
    walked and ran away over the decades!!
    Critical thinking and some general research will educate many Jehovah’s
    Witnesses but they have become so brain washed and LAZY, it is a mute
    point!

    There, now rip me apart for saying the truth!

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Man of Lawlessness and the Deluding Influence What is the purpose of it? The apostle explains.
      Read more https://e-watchman.com/deluding-influence/

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Podcast #11.

      Questions and answers from 2007 e-Watchman Mailbag and additional questions regarding who it is that will destroy the Watchtower? What are Jehovah’s Witnesses to do, teach lies? And more… Click here for Mailbag archives bloghttps://e-watchman.com/podcast-11/

    • Richard Long

      I’m kind of surprised you might be expecting anybody on THIS SITE to argue these points with you. Most of us readily identify ourselves as having been exactly as you describe. Yet, critical thinking has prevailed and the delusion lifted. Have or have not you read “Jehovah Himself Has Become King?

  • Darren Wilks

    It’s evident that Watchtower does not fear Jehovah anymore.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Well that will be short lived, that’s for sure!

  • Kevin b

    What ever happened to following the scriptures. Ro 13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.
    Does this only apply to people, or does it also apply to religious institutions as well? Like I said in a previous comment, power and money corrupt. Not sure if the GB is responsible or the lawyers running Watchtower, but this is not good for Watchtower. I hope this goes viral. Maybe it will make the July broadcast.

    • Sam

      Don’t how they can publish things (or at least approve publication as the case may be) like todays WT article which discusses the authorities being there by God and how resisting them is rejecting God’s relative order. Meanwhile they are “willfully disobeying a court order” in relation to a massive crime. Nice one guys

    • Song of Hannah

      Interesting you bring up Romans 13:1-4. Because upon reading them after reading Robert’s book, those scriptures suddenly seemed to take on a prophetic warning of what was to come, for taking such action. What do you all think?

      • yes, look at king Jehoiachin who surrendered, in the end it was a smart move. of corsse there are other examples such as Daniel and others. the 8th king’s relative positions by Jehovah – John 19:11 – “Jesus answered him: “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been granted to you from above.”

  • Andres Felipe

    Y todavía piden más donaciones “para la obra del reino” yo por mi parte no volví a dar una sola moneda. Como malgastan lo que le pertenece a jehova en multas de este tipo ….hipócritas del CG

  • Andres Felipe

    http://www.abc.es/sociedad/20140707/rc-papa-pide-perdon-omision-201407070140.html . Cuando pedirá perdón los dirigentes del pueblo de Dios ? Somo un pueblo de dura cerviz y testarudo.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Robert if I share this article via email, does it include the comments also? Thanks.

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    I just received a text from one of my elders:

    “Here are two things you might reconcile over your post.
    1.) Matt 18:6
    You wouldn’t want to stumble another
    Nor chance the millstone kind of thing
    2.) Sunday’s WT article has some points about how to handle our concerns.
    I hope they help. I know you need peace on this.”

    I answered that Sundays WT was exactly why I posted this and James 4:17.

    I know y’all warned me about this sort of reaction. There are so many verses swimming in my head that assure me I’m doing nothing wrong….I’m doing the exact opposite . I read the Matthew scripture and the guilt trip this elder is trying to send me on is twisted . It’s the WT that is stumbling Jesus’ little sheep …..not my reporting what WT is doing. In 1 Samuel 2:23,24 the people of Isreal are not punished or chastised for “circulating bad reports.”

    I have kept silent about EVERYTHING I’ve learned in the last 15 months. I haven’t told anyone in the congregation anything negative. The elders are so weighed down with WT paperwork and “polishing the outside of the cup” that the average publisher hardly gets a hello from them. But I post one article and NOW I’m told to read Matthew 18:6. I will probably remove the post because I want to be submissive to my local elders. They have enough fires to put out….I can snuff myself out on my own. Thank you all for being proverbs 17:17 to me lately.

    • Sam

      Wow, that point about 1 Samuel 22 is spot on! You followed your conscience and Jehovah took note of that…he also took note of those who looked away and put the blame on you instead.

  • Joe

    Has anyone considered writing the GB for more information about this case? Why they haven’t released that document to the courts as requested and pointing out the hypocrisy? Is getting a response from them even possible?

    • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

      I’ve thought about it plenty. That’s why last year I asked the CO. (Because I wanted to follow the “proper channel”) The CO simply said “we don’t have all the details and we should wait on Jehovah.” The GB is not stupid. As others on here have mentioned, Barbara Anderson has been an activist for decades on this one area. The GB will not answer your requests. They will only praise you for donating your ice cream money.

      • Joe

        Well, I will give it a try and see what happens. I’m sure it will be several months until I hear from them…

  • Joe

    I downloaded the minute order document from June 24 2016 from the San Diego courthouse website where it clearly states that the defendant is willfully not providing the documents in question. Page 3 of the document specifies the penalty for not providing the document. The penalty, as the newspaper article states, is $4000 per day.

    The next hearing date is July 22, 2016.

    The file can be downloaded at https://file.io/jFb3uc

  • Joe

    I particularly like this paragraph:

    Based upon the history in this case and Watchtower’s statements at the April 8, 2016, the court finds
    that Watchtower’s failure to comply is willful. Watchtower argues that its failure is not willful because it has no control over CCJW documents. However, Watchtower clearly has control over the documents it
    has already produced and could revise the redactions with regard to those documents. This is obviously
    and clearly within the scope of Watchtower’s powers which it chooses not to exercise. Continuing to
    repeat its prior unsuccessful arguments in opposition to the discovery order further illustrates
    Watchtower’s obstinacy in compliance. Further, based upon the unambiguous statements made by
    Watchtower’s counsel, there is no reasonable dispute that Watchtower is simply refusing even to attempt
    to comply with the court’s order.

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