An introduction to Joel, indeed!

//An introduction to Joel, indeed!

From the time of J.F. Rutherford the Watchtower has explained the book of Joel in the most absurd way imaginable. The locusts and creeping caterpillars supposedly represent Jehovah’s Witnesses who devour the harvest of Christendom’s fertile fields of operation, forcing the terrified clergy to beseech Jehovah for relief from the hordes of unstoppable ministers who are scaling over their protective walls and sneaking through their windows with tracts and magazines. For example, here is an excerpt of such drivel from a Watchtower published 19 years ago:

When the “priests” of Christendom see Jehovah’s people in action and hear their warning of divine judgment, they become frantic. They beat their breasts in vexation and rage at the devastating effect of the Kingdom message. And they howl as their flocks slip away from them. With their pastures being denuded, let them spend the night in sackcloth, mourning over their loss of income. Before long, they will lose their jobs too! In fact, God tells them to mourn all night because their end is near. –WT 5/1/98 p.10

Amazingly, though, now it appears the Governing Body are timidly tip-toeing away from their long-held nonsensical interpretation; evidenced by their most recent highlights on the book of Joel introductory video  where an illustrated image of locusts is displayed as the narrator describes them as enemies of Jehovah. (Go to the 1:50 minute mark)

It is very subtle, to be sure. Nonetheless, it is a clear signal that the previous interpretation is no longer held. Of course, as is typical of the Watchtower, there is no acknowledgment of any sort of correction or error on their part. Nor do they dare elaborate on their new understanding. And no doubt most of Jehovah’s Witnesses will not even notice the little flicker of new light the Watchtower flashed in their cartoon or the fact it contradicts everything they have published over the decades. Sadly, most JW’s are probably even unaware of the Watchtower’s ridiculous interpretation of Joel. Perhaps that is best.

One of the first essays I mailed to various Bethel heads was on the book of Joel. That was back in 1997. In 2005 a chapter in Jehovah Himself Has Become King was devoted to the topic, as well as numerous articles on e-watchman over the recent years. So, maybe someone at Bethel is reading. Or maybe commonsense has simply prevailed. Not that it matters. In any case, it is ironic, but the book of Joel is addressed to Jehovah’s Witnesses; specifically to the elders, the leadership. Here is what Jehovah has said: “Hear this, you elders, and pay attention, all you inhabitants of the land. Has anything like this happened in your days or in the days of your forefathers? Tell about it to your sons, and let your sons tell about it to their sons, and their sons to the next generation.”

It is as if Jehovah speaks to his people from the point at which the locust onslaught commences. You might say the sudden attack of the voracious swarms of pestiferous insect-like invaders is a wake-up call. For a fact, the impending global calamity is the only way that God can command the attention of his elders and the “inhabitants of the land.”

WAKE UP YOU DRUNKARDS!

More pointedly, God next addresses the elders and priests with a rousing call, saying to them: “Wake up, you drunkards, and weep! Wail, all you wine drinkers, because the sweet wine has been taken from your mouths.”

The drunkards and wine drinkers are not literally consuming alcoholic beverages. Their intoxication stems from the exaltation of power, being the standard bearers of pure worship and all of that. The prophecy of Isaiah, which overlaps Joel in other areas as well, reveals that the drunkards are inebriated with their own importance and consequently are unable to discern Jehovah’s judgments. Isaiah 28:7 states: “And these also go astray because of wine; their alcoholic beverages make them stagger. Priest and prophet go astray because of alcohol; the wine confuses them, and they stagger from their alcohol; their vision makes them go astray, and they stumble in judgment.”

Imagining they are the keepers of all truth and that their every utterance is transmitted from God’s mouth to theirs, their vision of the future —of God’s unending protection and blessing —makes them go astray. They are reeling from over-indulgence in their own home-brewed theocratic spirits. Especially now that the Governing Body are enthroned in their new palatial world headquarters, it is as if in their spiritually inebriated state they imagine that the New Jerusalem has already come down from heaven to One Kings Drive. They are in for the shock of their lives.

Joel continues: “For a nation has come up into my land, mighty and without number. Its teeth are the teeth of a lion, and its jaws are those of a lion. It has devastated my vine and turned my fig tree into a stump, stripping them completely bare and tossing them aside, leaving their twigs white.”

God owns the whole earth. However, in times past he also took special ownership of a certain people and their land; namely, the Israelites. But the prophecy of Joel is not about the literal land of Israel or Jerusalem. Since the prophecy pertains to events that initiate the terrible and fearsome day of Jehovah the special property that belongs to God must be that which is associated with a people who belong to God; specifically, anointed Christians. That Christ owns a particular people is evidenced by the fact that the slave whom Christ ultimately judges to have been faithful in his commission to feed his domestics will be appointed over all of the master’s belongings.

So, when God speaks of “my land” and “my vine” and “my fig tree,” his property is related to the master’s belongings. To be sure, the apostle of Christ wrote concerning “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.”

It is, then, this holy nation, the “special possession” of Jehovah that is destined to be devastated by the onrushing swarms. Seeing that the locust have the teeth and jaws of a lion would symbolize that the world-rocking military force is under the command of the seven-headed beast, which is portrayed as having the mouth of a lion.

What the prophecy of Joel is portraying is the complete and utter cessation of the worldwide preaching and teaching campaign the Watchtower has sponsored. That is what is symbolized in Joel by the following: “Wail as a virgin wearing sackcloth does for the bridegroom of her youth. Grain offering and drink offering have ceased from the house of Jehovah; the priests, the ministers of Jehovah, are in mourning. The field has been devastated, the ground mourns; for the grain has been devastated, the new wine has dried up, the oil has failed. Farmers are dismayed, vinedressers wail, because of the wheat and the barley; for the harvest of the field has perished. The vine has dried up, the fig tree has withered. The pomegranate, the palm, and the apple, all the trees of the field have dried up; for joy has turned to shame among the people.”

What would Jehovah’s Witnesses do without the Watchtower? How will the carry on without their weekly ration of food at the right time? How can they carry on their field ministry without the literature and other tools supplied to them by the anointed priests? We are about to find out.

But how could the entire global operation be shut down? Easier than you might imagine. People have become accustomed to the seeming permanence of the present system. They imagine it is going to go on and on, as surely as the sun rises everyday. But it is not. Although it is impossible to determine how it will come about, the utter collapse of the system is inevitable.

THROUGH THE WINDOWS THEY ENTER LIKE A THIEF

Already sane voices are warning that the Western financial system is reaching a point of debt implosion. At the same time world war has never been as imminent. If the system were to blowout —or rather, when the crash occurs —the money system will simply cease to function. What people imagine to be theirs, their money, stored away in some bank or stock, or some other financial institution, in reality are only so many digitized 1’s and 0’s on a computer hard drive, which can and will disappear into the cyber nether-land just as completely as a swarm of locust can devour a ripe field of barely within minutes. The false security of walls and windows are no barrier for the beast’s devouring hordes.

It is the very interconnectivity of the modern computer-driven system that is its greatest vulnerability. The aptly named Internet Windows may well typify the portal through which the symbolic voracious locusts enter —in the sense that every home is vulnerable to the thief, as stated at Joel 2:9: “Into the city they rush, on the wall they run. Onto the houses they climb, through the windows they enter like a thief.”

Post apocalypse. Sole survivor in tatters and gas mask on the ruins of the destroyed cityWithout the modern means of finance, transportation and communication, the massive publishing operation of the Watchtower will simply cease, which is what is envisioned in Joel: “Has not food been taken from before our very eyes, and rejoicing and joy from the house of our God? The seeds have shriveled under their shovels. Storehouses are desolate. Granaries have been torn down, for the grain has dried up. Even the livestock groan! The herds of cattle wander in confusion, for they have no pasture! And the flocks of sheep bear the punishment. To you, O Jehovah, I will call; for fire has devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and a flame has consumed all the trees of the field. Even the wild beasts long for you, because the streams of water have dried up and fire has devoured the pastures of the wilderness.”

Already the once robust organization is shriveling, evidenced by the shuttering of dozens of kingdom halls throughout America and Europe. We may expect the branches and factories to be mothballed too. All of the sheep will bear the punishment due to befall the drunken elders.

This is the timely message of the fascinating prophecy of Joel.

2017-11-05T04:22:43+00:00 October 31st, 2017|WT Review|44 Comments
  • Paul H

    The WTS finally starts to admit that the locusts are NOT the peace loving JWs going from door to door…scaring and decimating the evil clergy of Christendom with their preaching work….

    Admitting that the locusts are in fact the devouring enemies will have a huge impact on the WTS interpretation of prophecy… Ive tried reasoning with a few local elders a long time ago as well.. They all thought im crazy…and they insisted that the locusts are Jehovahs Witnesses… I think I will now contact them again and confront them with the fact the ORG is now saying the locusts are enemies…I wonder if they still call me crazy and I hope that they will somehow realize what consequences this “new light” will have on their century old interpretation of Joel…

    • If you watched the animation it is pretty subtle and can easily be dismissed as coincidental. But I think it is intentional.

      • Paul H

        Its totally clear… Ive watched the Dutch version as well and when they show the 3 pictures, (the 1st picture is a locust) the narrator clearly speaks about the enemies of God. There is no way around it….

        • Thanks for the confirmation of my observation. I know I wasn’t going crazy.

      • Paul H

        Also in the first half of the video, the locusts are being described as those who will cause destruction and famine…
        How could the “JWs preaching work” cause famine if they are responsible for dealing “spiritual food” to the people?

      • Richard Long

        Surely that august body would never condone nor participate in such disingenuousness ?! :p

    • Craig Knight

      Hi Paul! Well we know that they are reading sites like RK’s and all the comments as they spy on so called apostate sites. Do as I say not as I do nonsense. I really think they are afraid of Roberts insight and I Really think they have made doctrinal changes based on this site.

      • Paul H

        Hi Craig! I think that every serious Bible student who visits the e-watchman website, has “de facto” been blessed in their search for the truth 🙂 Its easy to label a person or website as apostate. Its a lot harder to prove Robert wrong based on Scriptural facts…Unfortunately the WTS prefers it the easy way… Wouldnt it be awesome if one or more members of the GB would come out of their ivory towers of Bethel and participate in an open discussion with Robert?

        Unfortunately we all know that will never happen, even if they would change their doctrines, the damage has already been done and Jehovah`s judgment will take place no matter what…and we all know where God`s judgment will start….*hint* it ain`t Christendom 🙂

        • Craig Knight

          Hey Paul! I actually pray that the GB will wake up and save many good souls from needless suffering but as you say they are too haughty. I have to admit I thought I was a good Bible student but Robert has proved me wrong. That God’s house gets cleaned first is everywhere in scripture. JW’s really just take the GB’s word for everything and fail to study the deeper things of God’s word. I prayed hard to God while I looked thru youtube video’s at ex JW sites but everyone I watched just seemed to be going down wrong roads. Then there was Robert’s channel. It really was an answer to my prayer. I’m glad you’re getting a lot out of this site too! 🙂

          • into the light

            JW can’t accept the fact that god’s house will be cleaned first because they believe that it already happened and basically — although they won’t say it outright — all they need to do is the maintenance. In their mind it’s the ousting of individuals that constitutes cleaning of god’s house whereas, if we consider the pattern set in the past, it was the individuals that actually gained god’s favor and majority were the ones that got punished.

            • Craig Knight

              Yeah the JW’s are in for a huge shock aren’t they! WT has sure confused scripture to the pain of so many. Not very wise or discreet of them is it?

      • The Raven

        I tend to think they have as well. Who knows? Robert may be right about there being some among them who know a thing or two but are waiting it out. It certainly appears they are backing off earlier assertions on prophetic matters and I wouldn’t doubt Robert has had some influence. The final days are showing them out and I would also guess that jws are starting to see how convoluted their interpretations really are. Not to mention the generations mess and a number of years past the outer limits of fulfillment for their predictions.

        • Craig Knight

          I’d bet my life that they are spying and keeping an eye on what is said here. Like you say maybe there are some good Brothers there being cautious and bringing these teachings to the round table. Wouldn’t it be nice to see them apologize for the error’s of 1914? That would take humility and so far I haven’t seen it.

          • The Raven

            I don’t think we’ll see any admissions or apologies, (save a few individuals here and there) until the collapse. Then we see who’s who.

  • Burt Reynolds

    This is a useful balance in the seemingly never ending argument about whether the watchtower is/are, God’s ‘people’ or the organisation, the focal point of prophesy. Certainly there are nations on this earth smaller that eight million, but the term ‘nation’ is not referred to in numbers particularly in the bible, but more in aliegence or ownership of a numberless people. I suppose it matters not how many there are. The same with the Great Crowd. Yet there is more in Joel than that: ” has not food been taken and…..joy from the house of our God?” For food to have been taken, and joy to have been lost, it must have been there in the first place. It does not refer to the time of Christ in terms of the work assigned. Not only that….the preaching work has withered, the priests are in mourning….who would not be at the sight of the dried up preaching work; and that which is left of it, has become an embarrassing burden, fraught with fear and with retribution over the ugliest of sins….child abuse. And now, they have nothing to sell, even from their trolleys. But still more comes out of Joel…the Magnificient Seven do not know what way to turn. They do not know how to correct their own story-line. They are so full of contradiction and knots, they themselves cannot know the full extent of it. All they can do is tinker with their dead prophesy of locusts, in cartoon fashion and hope no one notices. They fiddle, while watchtower burns.

    The issue is though, that Christendom has not ever had any of this to give away, preach or get wrong. When have they ever preached as did the apostles, going to the people in whatever fashion? Ever since its beginning, the church service has been a written format of repitition in the hope of a hearing and which one had to attend church in order to hear. And when they heard it, they could not understand it for it was hidden in Latin. Even today, the Catholic Church still hides its teachings behind Latin where it can. Why go? For what they hope for, rather than what is fact. How can it be otherwise? From its inception in the time of Constantine, these priests have never possessed a portion of truth or insight. Those of fame that carried the bible truths after that time, one can count on their fingers, though the unspoken of must be a multitude. There must have been a greater multitude through the ages that without knowledge or bible in English …..( until 1603 approx) who must have raised their eyes heavenward and praised the father in their hearts. But Christendom has never done so and those who did have motive or measure, never prospered for long within its bounds, like William Tyndale.

    With the way that the bible speaks in Joel and others, it always seems to be pointing to a particular set of people and their handling of the Father’s metaphorical Talent. Again, one has to posses the Talent to use it. I do not think Christendom was ever imbued with, were they? I suppose it is worth the mention that a Talent weighed by some estimates the weight of a man of 110 lbs. Perhaps that was an indication of the weight of responsibility too.

    • Craig Knight

      Very nice comments Burt. Jehovah’s people are obvious to anyone who try’s to find God’s modern day people. The preaching of the kingdom, making God’s name known in 700 languages etc…it’s obvious and it was also foretold that the modern day temple on earth would be given a spirit of error. So God is doing his will thru his people and even tho we find it maddening Jehovah is using his people to see the heart condition of lovers of truth all over the world. Jehovah will clear things up soon as He had to with the Apostles who were not clear about what Jesus was saying half the time but they eventually understood it clear;y in Gods due time.

  • Island Breeze

    The unique thing about Joel….

    https://youtu.be/zQLazbgz90c

  • black curtain

    Parody is everything now that WT is a video/internet company.

    How the internet began (and probably how it will end up)

    In ancient Israel , it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a healthy young wife by the name of Dorothy.
    Dot Com was a comely woman, large of breast, broad of shoulder and long of leg.
    Indeed, she was often called Amazon Dot Com.
    And she said unto Abraham, her husband, “Why dost thou travel so far from town to town with thy goods when thou canst trade without ever leaving thy tent?”

    Abraham did look at her as though she were several saddle bags short of a camel load, but simply said, “How, dear?”
    Dot replied, “I will place drums in all the towns and drums in between to send messages saying what you have for sale, and they will reply telling you who hath the best price. The sale can be made on the drums and delivery made by Uriah’s Pony Stable (UPS).”
    Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with the drums.
    The drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever having to move from his tent.
    To prevent neighbouring countries from overhearing what the drums were saying, Dot devised a system that only she and the drummers knew.
    It was known as Must Send Drum Over Sound (MSDOS), and she also developed a language to transmit ideas and pictures – Hebrew To The People (HTTP).
    And the young men did take to Dot Com’s trading as doth the greedy horsefly take to camel dung.
    They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical Rich Dominican Sybarites, or NERDS.
    And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the deafening sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches were going to that enterprising drum dealer, Brother William of Gates, who bought off every drum maker in the land. Indeed he did insist on drums to be made that would work
    only with Brother Gates’ drumheads and drumsticks.
    And Dot did say, “Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over by others.”
    And Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel , or eBay as it came to be known.
    He said, “We need a name that reflects what we are.”
    And Dot replied, “Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators.” “YAHOO,” said Abraham. And because it was Dot’s idea, they named it YAHOO Dot Com.
    Abraham’s cousin, Joshua, being the young Gregarious Energetic Educated Kid (GEEK) that he was, soon started using Dot’s drums to locate things around the countryside.
    It soon became known as God’s Own Official Guide to Locating Everything (GOOGLE).
    That is how it all began. And that’s the truth!

    • Richard Long

      Thanks bc! Perfect except horseflies have no interest in dung. The males eat pollen and nectar, the females eat mammal blood. Don’t even lay their eggs in it.

      http://www.runjanellerun.com/2012/04/15-interesting-facts-about-horse-flies/

      Nothing new under the sun, right?

      Blessings, RL

    • into the light

      GOOGLE was the perfect ending. Thanks for good laugh!

      http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/orson_wells_Slow-Clap.gif

    • #savekevin

      An old one, all over the Internet about 7-8 years ago, but still a good one.

    • Anderiega

      Did you make that up?? That was amazing!!!

      • #savekevin

        as i said, it was an old one. BC should know better and cite references and acknowledgements. Just google these few words for yourself and you’ll see 1000s of results for this: In ancient Israel , it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a healthy young wife by the name of Dorothy.

        • Richard Long

          Well, can you AT LEAST find the originator of the parody and badger THEM about the horsefly gaffe or should we be lynching bc from the old oak in the front yard for that too?

    • Craig Knight

      Oh man BC I just read your comments!!! I swear I laughed until I cried that was sooo hilarious!! thanks so much for the yuks!!!

    • Richard Long

      In case you’re not seeing it, bc, here’s some of the kind of cack this joker is down here pushing at your expense. Do you actually know this guy? Called you out by given name before he edited it, but as you know, I have the record should you need to see it. What did you do, marry his ex-wife? Refuse to let your daughter marry him? Break him in court?

      #savekevin Anderiega • an hour ago
      as i said, it was an old one. BC should know better and cite references and acknowledgements. Just google these few words for yourself and you’ll see 1000s of results for this: In ancient Israel , it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a healthy young wife by the name of Dorothy.

      • #savekevin

        I can hardly wait for this answer 😆

        • Richard Long

          I can hardly think the question is worthy of one, but wait we shall.

          • #savekevin

            Cue the missus. (my prediction, lol)

        • Richard Long

          And yet you couldn’t but had to answer for him. A little self-control, please.

      • #savekevin

        Crikey, its difficult to even begin here. And I lay full blame on Richard. If he hadn’t pursued me I would have left it at segue.

        On a long drive to pick up my son just now, i had time to reflect.

        Analogous to a court case (perhaps appropriately) Richard has summoned Black Curtain to give an answer to his question “What did you do?”

        The courtroom is here on this blog, which cites Jehovah’s WORD, discusses Jehovah’s purpose and raises bible topics. Analogous – in my eyes – to being under oath, if you will. I mean would you blatantly lie under these circumstances?

        If I were the prosecutor, I would question Black Curtain as to his qualifications as a lawyer, as he purports to be, and in which he says he is very busy. I would then put it to Black Curtain that he has not set foot in a courtroom save and except as a witness and certainly never as a counsellor, for which he has no qualifications.

        If I were the defence attorney, I would advise a plea bargain. Come clean. Stop pretending you’re something you’re not. Stop with the lawyer jargon, and the latin phrases, and the sensationalist copy and paste articles. It seems to impress only Richard lol.

        Black Curtain (yes Gary) and I were friends some 25+ years until about 12 months ago. Some trivial issue arose and although we live in the same tiny country town, we cannot speak. At the same time it is not any kind of issue as espoused by Richard. I ask you Gary, that you delete your Black Curtain (and white room) account here and apply for a new account, and approach it the same as most of us here. With appreciation for what Robert King has supplied – A most informative site where we can interact in like mind. Many here are injured in some way by WT, and seek fellowship, not to be belittled and scoffed at – we’ve had enough of that. Quit trying to build yourself up and be somebody you’re not. How will you answer for that? I see that analogous too, to the super seven in bethel. Thats what they’re doing – building themselves up to something they certainly are not and the day will come for them to answer for their lies.

        It was Gary that knocked on my door ~26 years ago, in a capital city of Australia. He left me with the Live Forever book. The rest is history. About 5 years ago Gary and wife (who by the way, is also a member here, but that is kept secret for some reason), moved to this tiny country town on the other side of the country – about 3000 miles. My family and I visited about 4 years ago and stayed. There used to be a column on the right-hand side here where people introduced themselves, where I described some of this already.

        Anyway, a sincere thank you to Richard for bringing this to a head, and I hope the right thing is done.

    • Richard Long

      And this one got posted TO ME behind your back and deleted: My reply added to the end:

      #savekevin
      Crikey, its difficult to even begin here. And I lay full blame on Richard. If he hadn’t pursued me I would have left it at segue.
      On a long drive to pick up my son just now, i had time to reflect.
      Analogous to a court case (perhaps appropriately) Richard has summoned Black Curtain to give an answer to his question “What did you do?”
      The courtroom is here on this blog, which cites Jehovah’s WORD, discusses Jehovah’s purpose and raises bible topics. Analogous – in my eyes – to being under oath, if you will. I mean would you blatantly lie under these circumstances?
      If I were the prosecutor, I would question Black Curtain as to his qualifications as a lawyer, as he purports to be, and in which he says he is very busy. I would then put it to Black Curtain that he has not set foot in a courtroom save and except as a witness and certainly never as a counsellor, for which he has no qualifications.
      If I were the defence attorney, I would advise a plea bargain. Come clean. Stop pretending you’re something you’re not. Stop with the lawyer jargon, and the latin phrases, and the sensationalist copy and paste articles. It seems to impress only Richard lol.
      Black Curtain (yes Gary) and I were friends some 25+ years until about 12 months ago. Some trivial issue arose and although we live in the same tiny country town, we cannot speak. At the same time it is not any kind of issue as espoused by Richard. I ask you Gary, that you delete your Black Curtain (and white room) accou nt here and apply for a new account, and approach it the same as most of us here. With appreciation for what Robert King has supplied – A most informative site where we can interact in like mind. Many here are injured in some way by WT, and seek fellowship, not to be belittled and scoffed at – we’ve had enough of that. Quit trying to build yourself up and be somebody you’re not. How will you answer for that? I see that analogous too, to the super seven in bethel. Thats what they’re doing – building themselves up to something they certainly are not and the day will come for them to answer for their lies.
      It was Gary that knocked on my door ~26 years ago, in a capital city of Australia. He left me with the Live Forever book. The rest is history. About 5 years ago Gary an d wife (who by the way, is also a member here, but that is kept secret for some reason), moved to this tiny country town on the other side of the country – about 3000 miles. My family and I visited about 4 years ago and stayed. There used to be a column on the right-hand side here where people introduced themselves, where I described some of this already.
      Anyway, a sincere thank you to Richard for bringing this to a head, and I hope the right thing is done.
      6:15 a.m., Thursday Nov. 2 | Other comments by #savekevin

      Reply to #savekevin

      #savekevin’s comment is in reply to Richard Long:

      In case you’re not seeing it, bc, here’s some of the kind of cack this joker is down here pushing at your expense …
      Read more

      My reply:

      Which part of this is relevant to eW again?

      For the record, the most I have ever heard bc say is that he is “in the legal profession” and it was I who filled in the blank to “lawyer” and “busy”. I hope my errant assumptions are forgivable in the eyes of God and the eW jury.

      I suppose its just as easily true that “in the legal profession” could have meant he was a cop, or one of those skeezy, misanthropic, morally ambiguous people that do private investigations into the skid marks in a suspected unfaithful spouse’s soiled underwear for a living, but it’s just too hard for me to imagine anyone like that visiting eW at all, let alone for good purpose.

      Can you at least please post TO someone ELSE if you’re going to refer to me in the third person. It does tend to fill me with an inappropriately elevated sense of self no matter how I fight it. The object of your wayward obsession maybe? Obviously I find it impossible to answer FOR bc, as I’m NOT bc, and bc will find it impossible to answer for himself if you don’t post it TO HIM. Better yet, please confine your chicken shit real world beef with bc to the real world. The angels do see what we do on the internet, too. I really don’t want to have to look forward to having my scourging on judgement day interrupted just so I can be dragged into yours as material witness to manslaying and slander.

      I also sincerely hope that Mrs. bc will be allowed to continue to enjoy independent anonymity. Heaven forbid we let a woman stand in her own right as an equal before God! Even the mention of her presence on eW in connection with any other participant was despicable beyond words, and the effort to use that connection to injure bc an act of cowardice that could only be inspired by the world’s current ruler.

      • #savekevin

        It wasn’t deleted by me

        • Richard Long

          Knock yourself out. All any of us want us for you to start zipping your pants up in the front. Just post it TO bc.

          • #savekevin

            I don’t expect we’ll hear from black curtain again. To do so would be to deny the charge and continue the lie. Like you I could provide screen shots where the claim WAS made to being a lawyer. But alas not even a doorman

            • #savekevin

              G has fantastic bible knowledge. I mean, he taught me lol. Seriously, this is a plea that he return here at some point as a normal person, and let us all share that knowledge without the fake persona. Until recently, him and his wife would meet with us and discuss topics from Robert’s blog as our ‘bookstudy’ night. You ask why out him on here. Bible principles determine that we don’t deal in lies. Come on gair, give BC the death sentence, and come back as yourself.

            • Richard Long

              I don’t care if he is Ned Kelley, I’m not taking legal advice from him. The fact that you can’t wait for him to make his own answer says more about you than you ever could about him. If he never shows up he never shows up. That will affect the world how???

              Your craven, passive-aggressive, underhanded methods of drive-by character assassination elevate the discussions of the blog HOW?

              If you want to tell me how little you think of me, tell me. I’m a bored guy who happens to be the sorriest excuse for a Christian with nothing better to do than slap you around 24/7/365. If you want to cack on bc, be human enough to paint the right target and clean up after yourself.

    • Island Breeze

      And it’s going to end with a communist world government spying on everyone & everything.
      But we might as well laugh out loud as they get their ducks in a row for their sinister plot to rule the world.

      https://youtu.be/YvT_gqs5ETk

      • Burt Reynolds

        Two things Hurricane Jo……1/ when can you send me one of those Amazon things called Arkansas, and 2/ Your discus page is still crashing my iPad from 5,312 miles away. I don’t know how you do that. You must have interference from 🎶🎶The Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia, on the trail of the lonesome pine…🎶🎶

        • Island Breeze

          10-4 Biscuits Burt, what you need to do is mop up all that gravy you got all over it. And stop using it as a coaster. On a serious note, J-Max can probably help you clean up the memory and wipe the history. Then you should be able to come by the island breeze surf shack!

          • Burt Reynolds

            I shall surf on by soon!

  • JTK

    it is very dupliticof the WT showing the locust and linking it to those who reject Jehovah, however i would not go as far to say the WT has changed their understanding of the what the locusts portray, i suspect the image and narration at least to the indoctrinated JW will still concur with the WT current teaching that the locust portray the anger of God against christendom’s leaders who reject Jehovahs organisation.

  • Anderiega

    Watch out Caleb!! The lollipop is poisoned!

    The thing about being drunk….it feels good at first, but before you know it, you’ve talked too much and too loud and then you don’t even remember what you’ve said!

    This is why WT can’t even apologize for their erroneous prophetic interpretations…they barely can keep up with their own “new light.” (Octoberfest 2017 brew)

    Joel….3 little chapters with a big bang. Jehovah, His Son, and His Word are so amazing and humbling. How thankful I am that I can learn and discuss these deep things with fellow truth searchers here.

    Speaking of Joel….has anybody seen brother Joel?! Hope he’s OK!!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5686af0f449fb071c418d9cf4fc2ffe644524ae8029be0524a13d7696afd11c2.jpg

  • Mick Hewitt

    Great subject, thanks for the heads up. Yes is the King of those winged creatures abaddon which translates disambiguation. If so that may imply they will bring an awakening?

Skip to toolbar