The hour of the judgment is nigh

//The hour of the judgment is nigh

Monday, September 4

Let anyone hearing say, “Come!” and let anyone thirsting come; let anyone who wishes take life’s water free.—Rev. 22:17.

As members of the Christian congregation, how can we succeed in giving this invitation? Only by being “harmoniously joined together and made to cooperate.”  To share the message of the Kingdom good news with as many people as possible, we need to carry out our preaching work in an organized manner. Therefore, we receive directions. The guidance given through congregations around the globe prepares us for a united effort. After we meet for field service, we go forth to proclaim the Kingdom message to mankind. By word of mouth and through millions of copies of Bible-based publications, we spread the message. Do you strive to follow the direction to share in special preaching campaigns? By doing so, you are joining millions of others in unitedly heralding the message of the “angel flying in midheaven,” mentioned at Revelation 14:6

Jehovah’s Witnesses are accomplishing an important phase of God’s purpose —which is two-fold. First, the gathering and testing of the called ones. And secondarily, the collecting of those who will ultimately make up the great crowd of persons who will survive the great tribulation.

At some point though, (no one knows the day or hour) the worldwide preaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses will suddenly stop. This will be considered an unprecedented disaster, as projected in the prophecy of Joel.

As Jesus said, the good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the earth and then the end will come —the time of the end that is, the conclusion. According to Jesus’ illustration the harvest is a conclusion. In the natural order of things the harvest follows the planting and growing season and concludes the agricultural cycle. In the symbolic harvest the angels are the reapers. They will be dispatched by the Lord Jesus and will collect out of his Kingdom, which is to say his congregation, all persons doing lawlessness and all things that cause stumbling. Afterwards —still during the conclusion —the chosen ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. This will occur when all the sons of the Kingdom are chosen —fulfilling all 144,000 abodes within the Father’s heavenly mansion.

At that point, when the first resurrection has begun and the 7,000 remain, then the angel goes forth, as depicted in the 14th chapter of Revelation: “And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. He was saying in a loud voice: ‘Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of judgment by him has arrived, so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and the springs of water.”

To their credit, some 20 years ago the Governing Body revised their teaching to now recognize that the sheep and goats are not separated until some point in the future when the Son of man sits down on his glorious throne. That will begin the hour of judgment by him.

That being the case, it should also be evident that the sheep and goats will not be be judged prior to the harvest of the wheat and the removal of the weeds and the dismissal of the evil slave. After all, what credit would it be to the sheep for doing good to those who are ultimately judged as wicked and sluggish slaves, or doing good to those who only falsely claimed to be Jesus’ brothers, but who were, in reality, workers of lawlessness?

Obviously, Jesus is not taken in by the Watchtower’s nonsensical hokum about the wheat and weeds being separated back in 1919. Nor is Christ bound by the Watchtower’s foolish insistence that the judgment of the house of God took place back during the First World War. Even by the Watchtower’s own, latest readjustment regarding when the faithful slave is appointed over his master’s belongings, there is a future day of reckoning.

In any case, after the 144,000 are joined to Christ on heavenly Mount Zion, even though some remain on earth (their places in heaven being guaranteed at that point), the announcement of the third angel goes like this: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of His wrath, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image and whoever receives the mark of its name. Here is where it calls for endurance on the part of the holy ones, those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast to the faith of Jesus.”’

According to the Watchtower the hour of judgment began in 1914. If that were true, though, it would mean that the calling and choosing of the 144,000 was complete then. Obviously, the calling and choosing did not end then. Embarrassingly, too, the Watchtower claims that the Anglo-American beast suffered a fatal wound during the First World War. (Jehovah’s Witnesses seem to be unaware that Britain and America were victorious.) Afterwards, the supposedly miraculously revived Anglo-American duo fabricated an image of the beast in the form of the League of Nations.

The Watchtower actually teaches that people began receiving the 666 mark of the beast back in 1921, when the League was formed. Although America wasn’t even a member of the League, again, supposedly, somehow, Americans were put under compulsion to worship the League of Nations.

And even though the Watchtower has sponsored a global disciple-making work directed to people who have supposedly already received the irrevocable mark of permanent death, JW’s are oblivious to the contradiction. Indeed, the notion that the League was the image of the beast and that people are doomed to the second death because  of their imaginary allegiance to it, is probably one of the stupidest things that the Watchtower has ever proffered. But, that is what is to be expected from those whom the Scriptures depict as “the stupid prophets.”

The truth is, the beast has not suffered its fated fatal head wound. Nor has it “miraculously” revived or created an image of itself. These are the things that must shortly take place to begin the hour of judgment.

Meanwhile, the nations are lining up for war. The cyber, diplomatic, trade and propaganda wars have been underway for some time. China is accelerating the move to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, which it has been since the end of the Second World War. Indeed, the London-centered financial system is moving to back China and destroy the United States, while Trump is being lured to launch nuclear war over North Korea.

Unfortunately, the blindness of the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses is so impenetrable they will not be aware of the gravity of the present state of the world or the prophetic significance of such, until the whole mess comes crashing down on their heads. Indeed, as Jehovah stated long ago: only terror will make them understand.

2017-09-04T17:21:15+00:00 September 4th, 2017|Commentary|105 Comments
  • Cathii D’Anthonii

    Forgive me for any presumptuousness, but it appears that the preaching work is ending now..

    • Why do you say that? According to the last published yearbook there were a couple billion hours spent preaching last year. Granted, half that time was spent at Starbucks, but even so, there is some activity. 10,000,000 Bible studies is fairly impressive. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/302017044

      • i just heard – Jehovah’s Witnesses Close on the Sale of Two Brooklyn Residences – https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/real-estate-brooklyn-20170901/

      • Cathii D’Anthonii

        Br. King, because of what has happened in Russia, and some places are having a hard time getting literature. If it happens suddenly, aren’t these signs?The society is selling off property, I’m still fighting to get people to listen, so I’m not in a hurry…

      • yeah but the growth “results have not been particularly impressive” huh ? https://e-watchman.com/woe-to-the-watchtower-society/
        but the world is getting the message as i see the world talking about it often in my twitter feed, either complaining, news or just something to talk about

        • The Raven

          You’re right. The fact that they were banned in Russia gave them a lot of exposure and probably also made some who were curious about them look into their beliefs. People take notice whether from fame or notoriety.

      • KB

        When I was young and the CO would visit, no one would take a service break in less it was his idea. Now days it seems like that’s all that’s done. Service is running errands and a break of one hour. Basically tell people to go to JW.org and that’s it. It’s basically a joke so I refuse to be part of it.

        • I don’t blame you. I doubt if Christ will either.

        • Daisy

          Good for you, your refusing to be “part of it ” as Jehovah wont share His affections with any other god either!

        • Giuseppe

          Nobody even uses their bible anymore, everything is electronic .

          • i really appreciate electronic a lot. i dont have to pack a suitcase when studying. the Reasoning book, Creation book, Insight books and bible versions and other book all fit in my phone into my pocket. and i can navigate with word and subject reference which helps me extensively and learn and find what im looking for much better. but i would like to see more bibles on hand to be given out while out in the field. but also its nice to help others telling them about the bible app and site references they can download to their own phone. it makes it so efficient and helpful for studying with others. the video and audio are so helpful too. i put on my headphones and hear JHHBK and finish the book 100 times. its nice i can reach out to people across the land without having to travel.
            only thing is, a longer lasting battery needs to be made.

      • Ken Rosenberg

        Because there are rumors that the 7 pharisees are going to change their message to one of judgement, they feel the preaching work is finished, also because practically everyone has a Bible in their home, the organization is in financial ruin and the Russian ban. So they are going to proclaim that the great Tribulation is starting, hence the message of judgement. Also, 2018’s study editions are being revised because of this.

        If WW3 starts after they make these claims, they will be heralded as prophets, then the part in 2 thessalonians 2 that says the mol claims that Jehovah’s day is here will be fulfilled again (since they claimed the lord’s day started in 1914 up until a few years ago).

        In 2009, there was an email floating around that an elder at a convention in Hawaii claimed the GB felt the preaching work was coming to a finish, he was reproved for this. Probably for saying it, not because it was a lie. They are getting attacked from so many positions, from the sex abuse penalties to Russia, they really think the end is nigh.

        I also wouldn’t be surprised if CT Russell from beyond the viel told them it is happening soon. Lol.

        • e.v.g

          That was interesting, it is for sure that satan will use something strange from those who belong to him.

        • The Raven

          You thinking what I’m thinking, Ken? This is going to backfire in a spectacular way. In trying to “fulfill” prophecy they don’t realize that judgement begins with them.

      • black curtain

        Just on the point of hours, what I have learned about hours being submitted for inclusion for “preaching time” is, that numbers of JW’s are falsifying the number of hours completed. Then there is, in addition, “coffee shop” witnessing time (a misnomer if ever I heard one). I have to say that I don’t trust the alleged total number of hours published anymore.

        On the matter of bible studies, and this is all on whose definition you accept as to what a bible study is, if you return to an “interested” call, and discuss the same tract three times with someone, this counts as a doorstep (WT definition) study. The best part of this is the householder doesn’t even, need, to know that they are being studied with??? What???

        And this one on the literature placements. An eager young space cadet ministerial servant who had been assigned to care for the magazine counter, and who was in training to become an elder, gave a part on the Service Meeting re the mags, and this bit is quite true, he noted by way of encouragement at the fine job that the Cong was doing, that for some time now the Cong was placing 500 magazines a month but the Cong order for mags was only for 400 per month???? He couldn’t figure it out… but he was happy!!
        You tell me?

        This then brings me to the point that my wife’s, nephew and his wife, gave permission for their 7 year old son to be baptised. Which he subsequently was.

        Two things come to mind, initially the method of scriptural increase was intended to be by an external preaching work outside the home, hence the “door to door” work. But the enthusiasm for this has become so diluted, that increase is happening by birth rate rather than new ones hearing the good news. Nothing wrong with teaching the children, but it also tends to distort the reported increase figures and they way they are portrayed.

        • Daisy

          When I preached in Spain, over thirty years ago come to think of it, we’d knock on the house close by to start counting time walk very slowly, not drive, up a mountain, find a coffee shop, then walk down the mountain. I was stunned. But that’s how we “witnessed” …by not speaking to anybody in fact. No joke. This I did with a missionary couple from the States.

          • black curtain

            It is a little humorous when one reviews their past actions. I have to smile a little, cringe a little and make my apologies for a small guilty conscience for doing similar things Daisey
            my kindest regards, bc

            • Daisy

              Haha…its good to have a conscience little or large; seems like I was hard on myself in the honesty department, not the enthusiasm department 😀

      • black curtain

        I forgot to add this little bit to my earlier comments. What has been happening is that KH numbers are declining and the WT, bless their creative souls have begun, quietly, I might add, combining 3 Cong’s into 2 Congs.
        This has the effect of convincing the Friends that their hall is once more packed to the back door and there is a wonderful increase of “new ones”. Along with that the assigned territory has just become… amazingly larger, and thus all those miserable so and so’s householders in the old territory, who slam doors on the preachers will not have to be dealt with so much.
        The next thing that is done, God bless them, is sell 2 halls, and cram the now 3 Congs into one hall, at odd time frames. The money to purchase those halls in the first instance ( see also Menlo Park Cong Calif vs WTBTS of NY on the matter of halls) belongs to the Friends… you would think.
        But WT in developed countries like the US has the halls put in their corporate name. So now they profit from the sales which is all repatriated back to HQ in NY. I could go on, trust is an important issue. But I no longer trust what they say as far as I am concerned. All will draw their own conclusions.

        • Huldah

          Glad some still use their.minds,BC.

          I hate it when my mother in law makes a big deal of the “increase” in my hometown.

          A bunch of people from DC moved into the area when the real estate boom happened. Suburban sprawl to save on homes, yet their number of congs increased so there’s a “great increase” in the area.

          I agree, raising kids around the truth and coercing them into baptism is not an effective way of increasing true adherents. These are usually “loose adherents” at best and don’t signify an effective ministry.

          • black curtain

            Good call Huldah
            cheers bc

          • black curtain

            Just a little further to your thoughts on inborns and all things associated with that, a few years ago a female Witness that I occasionally did some door work with related this experience that she and another witness had. They came across a man who identified himself as a Warlock (male witch) and after a short discussion, his voice changed and he stated this, “You killed our children at the flood and we are going to kill yours.” Well, you realise whom was speaking through the man. When one gets a picture of those who fall away through “desires incidental to youth”, (mostly inborns), and not through disagreeing with doctrine, such as people here on this site, then you can understand that the assault against the young is having success. What is the WT’s solution throw them out and don’t speak to them. As you are well aware isolation when one faces a crisis is the worst possible act of disregard and fellow feeling that one could display. It is a broad subject, I better leave it at that
            my kindest regards bc

            • Ken Rosenberg

              Oh my God!

              I heard from, I think it was perimeno.ca, that he was studying with a woman who was a former witch, and he didn’t want to comment on the matter, but apparently she said that the demons are still very bitter about the flood because they lost their children and family. I can’t remember exactly if it was Perimeno, but I’ll never forget a comment like that.

              I think, the demon was indirectly speaking to Jehovah, and the children he wants to kill are his true followers, Jehovah’s Witnesses, at Armageddon.

            • black curtain

              Ken it is interesting what goes on behind the scenes. I think that you refer to the “true followers” as being people agreeable to Jehovah, as opposed to Jehovah’s Witnesses (trademark copyright/registered) as belonging to the WT type people.
              I could be wrong regarding your thought there.
              I can’t agree that belonging to the WT is a guarantee for survival. Nonetheless that may be going off the topic with what you are speaking about. It is a confirmation that what I heard has validity. Thank you for relating the experience, it goes into the memory vault. my kindest regards bc.

    • Daniel – 12:4
      in one aspect, yes

  • Craig Knight

    Jehovah’s Witnesses are accomplishing an important phase of God’s purpose —which is two-fold. First, the gathering and testing of the called ones. And secondarily, the collecting of those who will ultimately make up the great crowd of persons who will survive the great tribulation.

    I sometimes wonder how God can even use the WT Org to accomplish his purpose when there is so much falsity in their teaching. I think testing for JW’s comes from the GB members themselves enforced by the Elder’s. Once a JW starts questioning certain teachings watch out! Can a JW really speak to people at the door with a clean conscience knowing the WT has so many lies in their teachings mixed in with truth? That’s a real dilemma for current JW’s. Having said that, The world is so blinded that JW’s seem to be the only tool that Jehovah uses in our times.

    • Isaiah ch6 (v8)

    • Let’s not forget that Jehovah has poured the spirit of deep sleep upon his prophets and visionaries. You think you got a line on truth? Come on! Stop with the ray Franz babble.

      • Craig Knight

        Oh no, I certainly haven’t forgot that the leadership is in such a stupor. Thanks to you I understand that the prophets are calling into account God’s false prophet’s of the WT. I don’t have a line on anything Robert, I’m with you 100%, well 99% which is pretty good 🙂 Sometimes I say things out of frustration. I was specially thinking about those current JW’s who are awake to what’s going on. I feel such sympathy for their situation. Example: A sister is awake but her husband is not so He takes his wife out in service. She has to bite her tongue at the door so as not to lie etc. It’s just sad what the publisher’s have to endure because of the GB blindness. Like ancient Israel all of them suffered when the King’s and Priest’s practiced wrong doing. So we all have to suffer because of the GB’s lack of insight. Those of us on the inside and the outside.

        • The Raven

          Yes, indeed.

    • The Raven

      Isaiah 42:19
      19 Who is blind, if not my servant, and who is deaf as my messenger whom I send? Who is blind as the one rewarded,* or blind as the servant of Jehovah?+

    • Huldah

      Matthew 23:15
      15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!+ because you travel over sea and dry land to make one proselyte,* and when he becomes one, you make him a subject for Ge·hen′na* twice as much so as yourselves.

      I wouldn’t want to bring a proselyte in so the Pharisees can turn them into one of them or worse yet, torture them like they did me and are currently doing to some of my friends.

      You are absolutely right the testing IS coming from the leadership in more ways than one.

      • The Raven

        I tend to view it a little differently. I think it is THEY who are being tempted and tested more so than their foot soldiers.

        • Huldah

          The testing is for those who are the true Christians, those who will get life.
          Heb 12:6 “he scourges those he receives as son.’

          The “vessels of wrath” try the ” vessels of mercy”.
          Rom 9

          Rom. 11:8
          ,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+,+ 8 just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of deep sleep,+ eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear, down to this very day.”+ 9 Also, David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap and a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 10 Let their eyes become darkened so that they cannot see, and always make them bend their backs.”+

          Rom 8:35
          35 Who will separate us from the love of the Christ?+ Will tribulation or distress or persecution or hunger or nakedness or danger or sword?+ 36 Just as it is written: “For your sake we are being put to death all day long; we have been accounted as sheep for slaughtering.”+ 37 On the contrary, in all these things we are coming off completely victorious+ through the one who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments nor things now here nor things to come nor powers+ 39 nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

          Their table is a snare to them, it is a stumbling block. The ones who smugly feel they are in a special relationship with God. Many are in leadership positions.

          This different than the testing and refining undergone by true disciples like Paul.

          One is a snare or a delusion leading to disfavor the other is a test or refinement leading to favor.

          The pharisees were snared into Gehenna by their own pride as will be the modern”Pharisees”.

          Pharisees are proving the righteous ones right now. Just as tgey stoned Steven and persecuted Paul.

          • Easach of Coimbatore

            Yeah I got the point. I read in detail.

          • The Raven

            I think we’re seeing this from different perspectives. I had this in mind:
            Luke 12:48
            In other words, they are going to be caught with their pants down. But I do agree with your comment in general.

            • Huldah

              Yes that scripture proves your perspective. I tried to reference both.
              It becomes so important to understand that true Christians are tried by the current leadership, the more you endure at their hands. It’s probably the single most important thing to comprehend once you have been red pilled.
              They “beat their fellow slaves”.

            • The Raven

              See my reply to craig. ?

            • Huldah

              Lol I miss them when I’m on the computer?

        • Craig Knight

          Raven – I think the foot soldier’s are suffering more getting the brunt from the commander’s at the top. Having to shut up and accept whatever new spiritual light comes along. Those on the top are being toyed with by the Devil for sure but they have a charmed life in their fancy apartments. Even feeling special and treated like royalty in other word’s idolized. They are the rule makers and the foot soldier’s have to comply.

          • The Raven

            Of course they are . I think as I told huldah we are looking at two different things. Judgement for leadership will be heavier. My thoughts are they are themselves being tested though they dont know it. I think we are looking at two ways of testing. The foot soldiers are surely tested by the leaders. But the leaders are also being tested in that they have been given plenty of rope. Now guess what they are doing with it?

            • Craig Knight

              Ha ha great point Raven! Everybody suffer’s and the Devil is behind it. Give them enough rope to make a neck tie with!

            • The Raven

              This is also where the separation between the ignorant and the willingly deceitful lies. Yep. There’s much to answer for.

            • Burt Reynolds

              What are they going to do with their rope? Tie it in knots for the rest of us, same as they always do. You will not be allowed to undo the knot, for fear of being executed. Now there is a conundrum for you!

            • The Raven

              This all goes right back to how folks are examined and judged. That rope was their position of authority. They abused it believing they would not be accountable. I don’t doubt some felt trapped and went along to get along, but those who set policy cannot say they were completely misled given they outright lied under examination by worldly authorities and remain in defiance even now. We know most support the idol no matter what at present. That will soon change. Some will not be able to claim ignorance.

          • Burt Reynolds

            I must admit that I find it hard to believe that those ‘taking the lead’ seem not to remember the scriptural advice to sit at the lowest table, and see themselves as being at the head, instead of Jesus. When I was a practising member, admittedly I was younger then, I craved the opportunity to teach (repeat watchtower dogma) from the platform. I thought then that I could deliver some profound insight. Looking back, I was just an arrogant youth and knew nothing of the trials and experiences of others and thus in how to address those of experience within the congregation. In comparison, those governing body members are an adequate enough reflection of myself in my youth, they know little of the experience and meaning of Jesus and speak arrogantly in their own judgements and opinions. I have since found my place at the lowest table very satisfactory and very comfortable and certainly more than enough.

            • The Raven

              It appears to be almost the same sort of disconnect politicians have with their constituents.

          • Easach of Coimbatore

            You mean a type of North Korea!!! Lol!

      • Burt Reynolds

        That really is an excellent remark Huldah. I had not ever connected the two issues together, and yes, why would someone want to bring in someone only to have them compound their error? To do so successfully would require that the new one must understand not only the paradox of the watchtower, and the role of the watchtower in prophesy, but the truth of the matter along with it. This in itself creates another paradox in that they will not be able in all conscience, to accept the watchtower demands on baptism, right through from accepting the watchtower in its assumed role, to the erroneous teachings of Christ’s return in 1914 and therefore will not be acceptable (to the watchtower) for baptism. Maybe then, that the baptism really is of the heart in this time?

        • The Raven

          You and several others here made a very good case for that a few months ago. It is an awful dilemma and I have personally struggled with it knowing there must be many more on both sides of that issue who do also.

        • Huldah

          Thanks for the nice compliment. Yes, the dilemma starts even before baptism. Conducting a bible study would be a sort of “bringing to birth for disturbance”. It’s a mind bender for sure!

        • Craig Knight

          That is the big dilemma for current Witnesses for sure. How is the preaching supposed to go forward once a JW is awake. Preaching becomes totally frustrating because how can you preach lies much less want to welcome someone to the Kingdom Hall to deal with angry Elders and and pedophiles etc. Here’s an important question: What percentage of WT teaching is correct? If we were to line up basic truth in one column and then lies in another column then a current JW who is awake would have to delete half of the WT publication that they use to have Bible studies or rip out half the pages. This a huge problem for those who want to preach but now their conscience won’t let them. As you said Burt how can you even encourage someone to become a JW when the baptismal question asks that you accept all the teachings of the GB??? My heart goes out to those JWs still in the Org who are staying in just so they won’t have their families taken away from them. I wish Robert would write an article about this subject,

          • Burt Reynolds

            On this topic, I think any of us could write about the problems you mention within the watchtower. Even then, one might ask what is truth and where is it to be found. The bible indicates the dilemma where is says that many will come in my name, and though referring to the Christ, there are so many ‘truths’ out here, so many contentions, so many ‘takes’ – how are we to know? Some of what the watchtower teaches is true. A huge proportion is the product of winding lies on to more lies to support the lie. So much so, it’s a wonder people cannot see it. But see it they do not! I do not feel that anyone can really point to much more than the watchtower does as irrefutable truth, without someone postulating an equal argument that sounds as plausible. Then they dissect the character of the preacher, but heaven knows we all have glaring faults. Sometimes, keeping it simple seems so much more secure, so much more to the point of it all. The end will come, it matters not how, or by whom, but by our hearts we will be judged, our love amongst ourselves, our subjection to Jesus, because we love his righteousness, not because we want to live. It is far easier to die for honourable right, than it is for self preservation; for righteousness brings with it hope that right will be done. Self preservation simply brings with it as a reward, yet another day of strife. As the bible says, ‘…the greatest of these is love…’. From love springs all the fruitage of the Spirit. Perhaps love is all you need. Watchtower deserves what it will get, but is its denunciation the primary issue for those that seek truth, or is it how to live truth? To live the way of love? If anything, perhaps we should be preaching the truths ourselves in what ever way we can, and that we know to be pure. That, to be sure, is defined for us within the scripture. ‘Greater love has no man, than that he lays down his life for another.’

    • Burt Reynolds

      I see your point though it may be a contradiction in terms. If the brothers are so blind to be unseeing of the lies now, how will they recognise them in time to come? The scriptures point, I think if I recall correctly, to a visible presence, a more stark choice perhaps, and also to the collapse of the watchtower, thus leaving all watchtower teaching unsupported, and the hapless witness left with their faith alone to make a choice with…..to go after the watchtower, or to exercise faith. It’s how they will exercise that faith that seems to be the test is suppose, but then, that is simply my speculation. On that point, I think two things may apply. One, that it will be more testing than we would like, and two, it won’t be what we think it might be!

    • Easach L S of Coimbatore

      To Respected Craig Knight
      You said that I sometimes wonder how God can even use the WT Org to accomplish his purpose when there is so much falsity in their teaching.

      King Jeroboam: Built the high places in Dan and Bethel that caused Israel to sin from then on.

      King Omri: 1 Kings 16:26 For Omri walked in the way of Jeroboam son of Nebat, and in the sins that he caused Israel to commit, provoking Jehovah, the God of Israel, to anger by their idols.

      King Ahab: 1 Kings 16:29-34, 18:17-19:2, 20-22:40, 2 Chronicles 18 Promoted worship of Baal with his wife, Jezebel. Sacrificed his children to idols. Also see 1 Kings 21:25

      King Rehoboam: 1 Kings 12:1-24, 14:21-31, 2 Chronicles 10-12 Adopted pagan worship see 2 Chronicles 12:14

      King Ahaz: 2 Kings 16, 2 Chronicles 28 Sacrificed his son to Molech. See 2 Chronicles 28:19
      King Manasseh: Rebuilt the altars to Baal and other idols. Put idols’ altars in the temple. Sacrificed his son. Practiced sorcery. Killed innocent people. Also see 2 Chronicles 33:9

      King Hoshea: 2 Kings 17:2

      King Zedikiah: Followed the idolatry and disobedience of his ancestors. Mocked and disregarded God’s prophets 2 Kings 24:18-25:7, 2 Chronicles 11-16. Also see 2 Kings 24: 20

      Now you see because they did like this then would doubt that will Jehovah ever bring or allow Messiah = Jesus Christ to come from such an idolatry family. He refines his people and brings the true ones he did not abandon his promise because his people did a great sin.

      He punishes them and fulfills his purpose. It was always Satan who was hurdle for the Jews so that he wants ancient Jewish system should fail so that Messiah should not come. Actually he wants Jehovah to fail. But Jehovah punishes his people and refines them to accomplish his purpose.

      So it is also true that though there is so much falsity in WTS teachings such as 1914 and so on yet God uses the WT Org to accomplish his purpose. Because it is only WTS that declared the name of Jehovah worldwide while others hate the very name. The falsity with in the WTS is like the disgusting idols of Baal and Ashtoreth with the Jews of ancient Israel.

      Remember only the remnant and faithful ones returned to Jerusalem from whom Messiah was born. So also the final witnessing will be done after refining by Jesus by destroying the very organization that bears Jehovah’s name. So this is the answer for your doubt.

    • Easach L S of Coimbatore

      You said that I sometimes wonder how God can even use the WT Org to accomplish his purpose when there is so much falsity in their teaching.
      Just remember these kings
      King Jeroboam: Built the high places in Dan and Bethel that caused Israel to sin from then on.
      King Omri: 1 Kings 16:26
      King Ahab: 1 Kings 16:29-34, 18:17-19:2, 20-22:40, 2 Chronicles 18. Also see 1 Kings 21:25
      King Rehoboam: 1 Kings 12:1-24, 14:21-31, 2 Chronicles 10-12 Adopted pagan worship see 2 Chronicles 12:14
      King Ahaz: 2 Kings 16, 2 Chronicles 28 Sacrificed his son to Molech. See 2 Chronicles 28:19
      King Manasseh: Rebuilt the altars to Baal and other idols. Put idols’ altars in the temple. Sacrificed his son. Practiced sorcery. Killed innocent people. Also see 2 Chronicles 33:9
      King Hoshea: 2 Kings 17:2
      King Zedikiah: 2 Kings 24:18-25:7, 2 Chronicles 11-16. Also see 2 Kings 24: 20
      Now you see because they did like this then would you doubt that will Jehovah ever bring or allow Messiah = Jesus Christ to come from such an idolatry family. He refines his people and brings the true ones he did not abandon his promise because his people did a great sin.
      He punishes them and fulfils his purpose. It was always Satan who was hurdle for the Jews so that he wants ancient Jewish system should fail so that Messiah should not come. Actually he wants Jehovah to fail. But Jehovah punishes his people and refines them to accomplish his purpose.
      So it is also true that though there is so much falsity in WTS teachings such as 1914 and so on yet God uses the WT Org to accomplish his purpose. Because it is only WTS that declared the name of Jehovah worldwide while others hate the very name. The falsity with in the WTS is like the disgusting idols of Baal and Ashtoreth with the Jews of ancient Israel.
      Remember only the remnant and faithful ones returned to Jerusalem from whom Messiah was born. So also the final witnessing will be done after refining by Jesus by destroying the very organization that bears Jehovah’s name. So this is the answer for your doubt.

      • Craig Knight

        Esach – Yes of course you are right. Jehovah put up with so much rebellion and wickedness among his people because He remains loyal to his people. You made some really great points.

      • Craig Knight

        Hi Easach – I have been rereading your reply to me. I liked it so much that I have saved it to my computer for future reference. Thank you my Brother.

  • Easach L S of Coimbatore

    In this article it is said that The truth is, the beast has not suffered its fated fatal head wound.
    That is correct!! Why?

    Just see this What a joke!!!

    If we assume what WTS has said is correct that the Anglo- American wild beast got the fatal wound on one of its head back in 1914, it can be easily refuted.

    If Anglo American beast got the fatal wound back in 1914 or even during WW2, still British was holding the Indian sub continent under their imperial power just to give an example and their aircrafts were manufactured in Hindustan Aircraft company in Bangalore India in 1942 both by British and America as their flags were there in front of that factory. If you want google and see for yourself.

    So could a wounded beast can hold another nation if the beast itself were wounded?

    British was holding many nations under its rule even after WW2. In this way you can lock the blind JWs or those who are Society listeners.

    Once I placed this question to one of the elders in my previous congregation in North Karnataka. That elder said brother I know you know many things, let’s not open this matter.

    If the beast was really wounded back in 1914 how is that American MNCs and IT companies continued to flood into India subcontinent since from 1995 until today to do their businesses as usual? If it were really wounded back in 1914 how is that still America is playing a major world power?

    Well in the Watchtower’s published book Pay attention to Daniel’s prophecy page 139 they have mistakenly represented the Iron and Clay as politically divided world in that picture.

    But the new revised edition of New World Translation of Holy Scriptures was released in a convention in 2013 again the Watch tower changed its view on this Iron and Clay and now in its Bible in page appendix B9 the Watchtower again pictorially represents Iron and Clay as Anglo American world power.

    But till today in any of our recent magazines after Jan 2013 no comments has been made on this why they changed the view and no magazines ever even tried to explain which is Iron and which is Clay. Isaiah:42:19 comes true here.

    Indeed what Brother Robert said is true that as Jehovah stated long ago in Isaiah:28:19: only terror will make them (WTS) understand.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Can someone have a go at my question on blood please in the last article? It’s not a question of my lack of knowledge but a question of what is truth. Thanks.

    • i dont have an answer but didnt forget

    • Easach of Coimbatore

      Take my I’d easajw@gmail.com I Will reply u on blood

      • Burt Reynolds

        Thank you for your offer of email discussion Easach but I prefer to be open in discussion on this site. It’s the only way to keep a balance of correctness and truth.

  • By way of reminder, I do not allow links to JW related blogs.

    • Burt Reynolds

      I didn’t mention any other blog out of respect for your wishes, I am simply looking for amplification on a scriptural topic, from the bible, not from a blog. The bible says to keep checking and that is all there is to this question. I simply read an alternative thought from various non-blog sites as it happens and wanted to clarify my understanding. Is that not the whole point? I just want to be sure, nothing else. It’s a symptom of post watchtower in that one now checks all with a fine tooth comb not necessarily once, but in comparison to all, though admittedly I should have done so more rigorously fifty years ago.

      • Richard Long

        My bad, Burt.

        • Burt Reynolds

          I didn’t get to read it. Must have been deleted.

          • Richard Long

            It was deleted Burt. If you still want to see it, facebook messenger me for link.

    • Richard Long

      Apologies. Found the article worthwhile and relevant to Burt’s question.Can I get a link to the posting guidelines again, please.

  • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

    Greetings Robert.
    Question. You mentioned in this article that London is going to back China’s Financial currency for the world’s takeover monetary system. If this is the case, the death stroke that topples one head of the duo beast, and if that is so, the US must represent the one that is later miraculously healed and turns on the entire world for its conspiring to destroy it financially. After all it appears the United Nations is going to be the throne of the dictates of the beast. Some help if you will.? Tryng to rap my head around London being the throne after the crash seems bit of a stretch with Britain’s military might being that of a flea compared to the US’s.

    • Richard Long

      London forecloses on all it’s bad dept, instantly owns the entire physical world – already has in place its anglophile operatives in shadow governments world wide to ensure command and control of military might to enforce order, including the US.

      • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

        That still doesn’t answer for the Beast Reviving from its Deathstroke

        • Richard Long

          …Follows that shadow governments become “legitimate” governments, “Revival”, and then lend their power to eighth king “Beast”.

      • Burt Reynolds

        How do you know this Richard ?

        • Richard Long

          I don’t know anything. This was as a synopsis based on conjecture and personal expectations. But, this IS what Robert has been talking about for years.

  • kakure Basho

    Good article! But that stuff about the 7,000 remaining is definitely left open for debate. And the article linked about the 7,000 remaining has major inconsistencies.

    • if you say so

      • kakure Basho

        Gosh DA, you have been on this website posting comments for so long, it’s almost nostalgia I feel at this point when we conversate. Lol

      • kakure Basho

        Also I…. DO SAY SO…LOL. JK. All I am saying is that a few things that must be considered in revelation before making any dispositions on that topic. That’s all.

      • Easach L S of Coimbatore

        I Like to know one thing Dr. Moreau the title Dr. means are you an Physician or have you done Ph. D?

        • Richard Long

          Dr. Moreau is a fictional charachter in a novel by HG Wells published in 1896.

          • Easach L S of Coimbatore

            Oh Oh LOL

        • no im just a thinker

    • Easach L S of Coimbatore

      Can you show?

      • kakure Basho

        Can I show……what?

        • Easach L S of Coimbatore

          Can I show……what? Means how 7,000 remaining has major inconsistencies?

          • kakure Basho

            If I could refer you to the video that was posted in the following article. And take a look through the comment section. There is a debate between King and one or 2 individuals that make a logical observation. Just look it up and get back to me. I’d like to hear your thoughts.

            • Easach L S of Coimbatore

              Where video? send it to easajw@gmail.com

            • Richard Long
            • Easach L S of Coimbatore

              Oh I have this in my hard disk

            • Craig Knight

              Robert’s video is so awesome! His explanation of the monetary system and how it will all fall apart is very very good!

            • kakure Basho

              I’ve been on the comments section for that video and the conversation is so buried within all the conversations going I’ll have yo show you another way

  • Easach L S of Coimbatore

    This is a question to Brothers and Sisters who are still an very active JW going to meetings and associating in this website just like me.

    After seeing KEN ROSENBERG’S Comment: Because there are rumors that the 7 pharisees are going to change their message to one of judgement, they feel the preaching work is finished…..

    This what my question is: Suppose if the GB announces that all preaching work has to be stopped!!

    What will you do if are still a very active JW going to field service?? Will you stop or continue to do.

    Brother Robert King please Reply me what is your view point?

    My view point is even though the GB announces that all preaching work has to be stopped. I and my wife has decided to continue to do so with e-watchman’s articles.

    • Jamie Mac

      Let’s hope Robert continues to write those articles Easach if that should happen. Along with Jehovah’s actual written word they are spiritual food for many who visit this site.

  • kakure Basho

    Dude , on this website go to the article THE WILD BEAST FROM THE ABYSS
    And in that article at the bottom is a YouTube video that Robert has put up as a link. Click on it and it will open up his YouTube account. Now In that particular video, look into the comment section. There is a debate about the so called “7,000” that king likes to speak of. GEEZ LOUISE, DUDE!

    • Richard Long

      Please show some patience for our brother Easach. He is a native of India and an educated man, but our American colloquialisms sometimes escape him..

      • kakure Basho

        I truly do apologize. I figured that to be the case. But I’ve read a few of his comments, and he seems to have a pretty good grasp of our colloquialisms. My bad!!!

        • Richard Long

          No apology is due me.

          • kakure Basho

            Dude I know, it was to him. Lol

  • Giuseppe

    Massive earthquake rocks Mexico city
    Massive hurricane threatens Porto Rico

    https://youtu.be/yP__v_JfJk4
    https://youtu.be/ZJISCmwrFCE

    • The Raven

      I was watching videos of buildings collapsing and the dust rising from them. I feel so sorry for those folks. That quake was a bad one. They just had one i think a week ago?

    • Huldah

      Yep.
      My goofy phone won’t copy the link but there’s a Youtube site called Dutchsinse that predicted a large “aftershock” like that one recently. He tracks earthquakes. Really brings seismos, the Matthew 24 prediction, right up in your face. And the fracking connection to recent smaller earthquakes. He’s predicting one on the Cascadia fault line in the Pacific beside CA in the next few days.

      Serious scientist not conspiracy theorist. Cool stuff.

      • The Raven

        Lol. He’s good at that. I had his site bookmarked for ages. Been at it a while now. I hope they don’t get many aftershocks down there. The pics and videos are terrible.

    • Huldah

      My cousin just moved to PR. Rode out Irma now this. She never lived outside of MD. They’re prepared. Sounds like their home is pretty sturdy.
      Scary stuff.

  • Leonard k

    https://youtu.be/CLfkJODepcI

    Ezekiel 34:21
    for with your flank and shoulder you kept pushing, and with your horns you kept shoving all the sick ones until you had scattered them abroad.

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