Babylon the Great – What is it?

//Babylon the Great – What is it?

 One of the most intriguing mysteries of Revelation has to do with the identity of the symbolic Babylon the Great. There are various interpretations of what “Babylon the Great” represents. For example, one of the latest interpretations is that Babylon the Great is America. Others think that it is the old Roman Empire or the Vatican. In fact, back in the 1850’s Alexander Hislop, in his book The Two Babylons, made a compelling case that the Catholic Church is the symbolic harlot. The Catholic Church, though, says that they are not the great harlot, but that apostate Jerusalem and pagan Rome fit the profile of the whore of Babylon.

How can anyone know for sure what Babylon the Great represents? According to the angel that presented the Revelation to John, it is by using our intelligence with wisdom. After saying to John that he would tell him the mystery of the woman riding the seven-headed beast, the angel went on to say:“Here is where intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. And there are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while.” (Revelation 17:9)

Interestingly, the angel said very little about the harlotrous woman herself; instead, he described in detail the origin and nature of her beastly mount.  According to the angel, the seven heads of the wild beast represent seven kings that rule in succession. The angel plainly said: “The seven heads meanseven mountains, where the woman sits on top.” Five of those kings had already fallen from power by the first century when the Revelation was given. Which kings were they? According to Bible history and prophecy, those five “fallen” kings were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece. Of course, Rome was the existing king in the 1st century, which the angel was referring to as the one that“is.” And the king that “has not yet arrived” has proven to be the Anglo-American dual world power.

According to the angel, then, “the seven heads mean seven mountains.” That is in keeping with the facts that in many places in prophecy mountains symbolize governments. For instance, Jeremiah 51:25 likens the fallen Babylonian kingdom to a “ruinous mountain” and a “burnt-out mountain.”

Of course, Babylon itself was situated on a river plain and was not a mountain city. So, clearly, Jehovah uses mountains to symbolize mountain-like political institutions. Elsewhere in scripture, God’s own royal kingdom is called MountZion. Therefore, Babylon the Great cannot represent the Roman Catholic Church, America, or any other nation or single religion. The reason is because the five fallen kings that were dominated by the harlot existed before Christ, and long before the Vatican or the United States ever came on the scene.

Likewise, some would-be-interpreters insist that the seven mountains are actually the seven hills that the literal city of Rome was supposedly built upon. But, as anyone with intelligence can read for themselves, the seven mountains merely symbolize the seven heads of the beast and are not literal hills at all, and the seven heads are themselves seven consecutive kingdoms that have ruled the world and impacted Jehovah’s worshippers.

So what does Babylon the Great really represent? It represents what the Watchtower has said all along. Babylon the Great symbolizes the world empire of false religion. That is – all organized religion with the exception of the true faith of Jesus Christ. How may we be sure?

THE ABUNDANCE OF YOUR SORCERIES

In order to understand the mysteries of Revelation, it is helpful to have some knowledge of the Hebrew prophets from whom much of the symbolism of Revelation is drawn. By examining the Hebrew Scriptures we may gain some insight into the historical foundation for the modern entity called Babylon the Great.

For example, in the 47th chapter of Isaiah, Jehovah speaks to the original Babylon using phrases that centuries later were used in Revelation to describe Babylon the Great. Isaiah 47:8 ascribes these words to ancient Babylon: “Now hear this, you pleasure-seeking woman, the one sitting in security, the one saying in her heart: ‘I am, and there is no one else. I shall not sit as a widow, and I shall not know the loss of children.'” Revelation 18:7 describes Babylon the Great the same way, saying: “For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.'”

Another similarity between the two Babylons is that they are described as using sorcery and spiritism. For instance, Isaiah 47:9 foretells that Jehovah’s judgment will come upon Babylon, “for the abundance of your sorceries, for the full might of your spells – exceedingly.” Likewise, Revelation 18:23 says of Babylon the Great: “For by your spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.”

Spiritism and sorcery obviously has to do with the black arts associated with demon religion. How is it that Babylon misled the nations of the world using demonism? At this point we ought to make a distinction between imperial Babylon and religious Babylon, although the two were inseparably linked. Whereas the Babylonian Empire terrorized and subjugated a large portion of the world with the edge of the sword, priest-craft and mysticism were employed to not only justify war, but to conquer and control the minds of the individual subjects in order to make them subservient to the Empire. Thus, demon religion has always been a tool of the empire and each has used the other to further their own ends. That is why Babylon the great is symbolized as a great harlot and queen mother that commits fornication with the kings of the earth.

History verifies that each empire has had a religious consort. Pharaoh had his magic-practicing priests. Assyria and Babylon had a hierarchy of priests that attended to their multiplicity of deities and steered the empire by astrology and divination.

The Persian Empire adopted the religion known as Zoroastrianism. The Greeks were polytheistic and built numerous shrines and temples to their gods and goddesses. The Romans inherited a hodgepodge of mythology from the Chaldeans, Persians and Greeks and formalized it into the state religion known as Mithras. Later, of course, Rome adopted apostate Christianity as the official state religion.

In modern history, the Anglican Church has been the official consort of the British Empire. While the United States’ official policy is that there must be no state religion, Jewish, Catholic and Protestant religions exert a very powerful influence over the American political system.

Appropriately, the official religion of the United Nations, is the new age religion for the New Order, which, in reality, is merely a conglomeration of all of the previous religions of the empire—and then some.


Meditation roomMuch has been written about the occult publishing company of 
Lucis Trust, formerlyLucifer Trust, which apparently has a powerful, spellbinding influence over the United Nations bureaucracy. Such an unseemly connection exemplifies the occultish, satanic influence that Babylon the Great is capable of exerting over powerful men and political institutions.  So it follows that modern babylonish adepts still use sorcery and spiritism to mislead mankind.

One notable aspect of Babylon’s religion was that it featured triads of gods and demons. Most prominent among the Babylonian pantheon was the trinity composed of Anu, Bel and Ea. Another triad consisted of Shamash, Sin and Ishtar. From Babel the trinity was taken into Egypt in the form of the gods, Osiris, Isis and Horus. To this day, the ages-old Hindu religion has retained the babylonish triad. Christendom’s nonsensical and unbiblical doctrine of the Trinity gives evidence that Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism are also the immoral offspring of their babylonish mother, which is why Babylon the Great is called “the mother of the harlots.”

Astrology also played an important role in babylonish religion. At Isaiah 47:12-13, Jehovah taunts and challenges the stargazers and soothsayers to divine the future. It reads: “Stand still, now, with your spells and with the abundance of your sorceries, in which you have toiled from your youth; that perhaps you might be able to benefit, that perhaps you might strike people with awe. You have grown weary with the multitude of your counselors. Let them stand up now, and save you, the worshippers of the heavens, the lookers at the stars, those giving out knowledge at the new moons concerning the things that will come upon you.”

By making reference to Babylon’s youth, Jehovah was apparently referring to the post-Deluge beginnings of Babel and its ignominious founder –Nimrod. It seems that an entire mythology was built around the relationship of Nimrod with Semiramis his mother, so that after his death Nimrod was deified as the Sun god and his mother became the Queen of the heavens. Thus, from the very beginning, before Nebuchadnezzar’s Babylonian Empire, the Chaldeans ‘toiled from youth’ to create a system of worship based upon myth, divination, astrology, superstition and magic.

Another aspect of the religion of Babylon the Great is that according to Revelation 18:7, she has“glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury.”

Living in “shameless luxury” certainly describes the phony religious system of modern Babylon the Great. The Catholic Church, being one of the most powerful and prominent segments of modern false religion, is conspicuous in this respect and certainly fits the description of living in shameless luxury. As one of the wealthiest institutions in the world, the Church stands in stark contrast to the hopeless poverty of so many of the peoples of the world that she has exploited.

Not much needs to be said concerning the well-known and highly publicized shameless begging and opulent lifestyles of numerous televangelists, who have exploited gullible minds with a so-called prosperity doctrine. Also, in recent years the media has also thrown light on the fabulously wealthy Mormon Church. Many of Babylon the Great’s traveling merchants of religion, whether popes, gurus, swamis, rabbis, Protestant clergy, or Islam’s mullahs, have been the “top-ranking men of earth,” as Revelation 18:23 describes, and as such, they are often richly rewarded for their services to the great harlot.

THE BLOOD OF ALL THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED

Another similarity between ancient and modern Babylon is that the religious leaders are agents for fomenting war. According to Revelation 18:24, Jehovah God holds false religion directly responsible for all of the deaths that have occurred in warfare. And true to Jehovah’s judgment, history verifies that religious fanaticism and cleric political involvement is often used to manipulate men into killing one another. The Crusades, horrific Inquisitions, Hundred Years war, plus the World Wars of the 20th Century, which were fought in the heart of what is known as Christendom, proves beyond any denial that the denominations claiming to be Christian are really part of Babylon the Great.

The Vatican’s secretary of state, Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (the future Pope Pius XII), and Germany’s vice chancellor, Franz von Papen, formally signed a concordat between the Holy See and the German Reich on July 20, 1933 (click on image)

And when religion is not directly involved in warfare, it often gives tacit approval by abdicating its moral authority. For example, it is charged that had the Pope of Rome used his authority to speak out against Hitler and the Holocaust, many lives could have been saved and perhaps the entire course of history could have been changed for the better. (Pope wants to erase Nazi ties to Church)

But Jehovah’s judgments against Babylon the Great have not taken place yet, so apparently her sins have not yet amassed clear up to heaven, as Revelation describes. That being the case, evidently Babylon is not through promoting the slaughter of mankind. Indeed, the world is presently careening towards the so-called Clash of Civilizations that global seers have envisioned, which has the potential of being the greatest slaughter that has ever occurred in mankind’s bloody history. Not uncharacteristically, the world’s major religions are situated at ground zero.

It should be of more than passing interest to us that fundamentalist Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Christians are all deeply involved in the world’s present Middle East and India-Pakistan crisis. While, in the West, Islam is typically portrayed as the chief warmongering culprit, others rightly charge the Christian Fundamentalists sects as being every bit as culpable and dangerous as the Islamist associated with terrorism. In the wake of 9-11, Christian fundamentalists have shamelessly fanned the flames of anti-Islamic hatred, thereby setting the stage for the coming slaughter of innocents in the name of Jesus.

Unquestionably, Zionism is the root cause of contention that has pitted Islam against Christendom and Israel and which has now brought the entire global civilization to the brink of World War Three. In the recent destruction of Iraq, whereby some estimate the Iraqi death toll now exceeds 1,000,000, far more than were killed by the deposed Iraqi dictator, in America the ignorant masses of evangelicals were the political foot soldiers that made the war possible.

Because Zionism is itself a product of 19th Century British geo-political intrigue and the occult, it is apparent that Christendom is a compliant Mistress in allowing herself to be used to give biblical credence to such modern mythology as Zionism.

True to prophecy, it is evident that by her spiritistic practice all nations are being misled into becoming bloodguilty before God.

Christians being burned at the stakeBut, besides lending support to general and religious warfare, Babylon the Great is specifically charged with persecuting and murdering Jehovah’s prophets and holy ones. Revelation 18:24 says in full: “Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

The term “holy ones” applies specifically to anointed Christians. In the first century many of the holy ones were killed by fanatical Jews and Roman pagans. Later the Catholic Church persecuted, tortured and executed many thousands of Christians deemed to be heretics. No doubt some of those victims were genuine holy ones, such as the Waldenses of Southern France.

In the 20th Century, Christendom has taken the lead in outrightly persecuting Jehovah’s Witnesses and has used her considerable political influence to cause the governments and politicians to enact regulations aimed at suppressing our work. The Holocaust Museum, in Washington D.C., documents the trials and tribulations of Jehovah’s Witnesses during the Nazi Holocaust in Europe. 

But, Jehovah’s Witnesses have suffered religious persecution in other nations as well. For example, during the 1950’s, in the Canadian province of Quebec, Jehovah’s Witnesses were bitterly persecuted by the Catholic Premier and the Catholic Church.

More recently, the Russian Orthodox Church has sponsored the banning and persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the former Soviet nations and Russia.

Religious intolerance and fanaticism has resulted in persecutions in Armenia, Turkmenistan, and Georgia. The Greek Orthodox Church has been behind decades of rabid persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Greece. Catholic influence in France is evident in the present situation, whereby Jehovah’s Witnesses are being punitively taxed. In fact, some French legislators apparently want to make any sort of preaching a crime.

Unbiased observers recognize that even in a bastion of democracy like the United States, that Jehovah’s Witnesses have had to go to extraordinary lengths to secure their constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

The above-cited examples of religiously motivated persecution, reveals the underlying hostility and animosity that Babylon the Great harbors against Jehovah God and those who bear his name. The question naturally arises:  Where will such enmity lead in the future? According to the Watchtower’s interpretation, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been released from any influence that Babylon the Great may have exerted over true Christians.

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  • Angel

    Babylon in America. Once again the watchtower is wrong, but so are most churches. Jeremiah 50-51/ isaiah 13&14(second half)&47/ habbakuk 1:6-11/ revelation 17&18
    In old testament prophets all telling future of countries in last days. America is in bible prophecy she is the whore corrupting the earth. Her mother is England. She has murdered more innocent.She is the hammer of the earth, she is a nation that will be destroyed in one hour. Now think! What could take down a nation in one hour? A nuke? She is also most proud. Non of those things could be the roman church. False religion? Jws is one of the biggest, just like the rest of them.
    Seek the Lord! Only He can save you ,not an organization of any kind.

    Zephania 2:3

    • RON
      • Rev 17:5 “On her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the prostitutes…”

        “I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast that is”

        “the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

        “these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire.”

        “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen,a and she has become a…”

        • RON

          The Great Whore of Revelation 17 and Babylon is Fallen, is Fallen Explained

          The Great Whore of Revelation 17:1 is judged by God, An Angel tells John to come and see the judgment of the great whore that sits on many waters.The kings of the earth have fornicated with her and been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. John was carried away and saw this “woman” riding the back of the Beast with seven heads and ten horns. This woman was dressed in loud colors and arrayed with all manner of trinkets.

          On her forehead was the name(s) Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. Notice this is four descriptors of the great harlot, there is not anything called Mystery Babylon as almost everyone cites, but these are only descriptions of the great whore. Many people likewise try and suggest that the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is mystery Babylon or the whore of Babylon, but Rev. 17:6 dispels this notion in that the woman was drunk with the blood of both the saints and martyrs of Jesus blood, and the (RCC ) was not around to harm the saints of old, neither was Islam. False Religion, all false religion from the beginning of time, that is the Great Whore that is being judged by God.

          The mystery of the beast that was, is not, yet is. He is the eighth king and is of the seven. The seventh king is king but a short time. The eighth king is Satan himself, he possesses the seventh king, which is the Anti-Christ or beast whose kingdom last but a short time.These ten kings have no power as yet, (Johns Time) but receive power with the beast for an hour. (short time)

          The kings in league with the Beast then destroys the Great Whore (False Religion) in Revelation 17:16 and burn her, but why ? Because the Anti-Christ will demand that all worship him as god !! He will destroy any and all religions in order to bring this to pass. The whore sits on many waters, which is peoples, nations and tongues, so she is world wide by the end times.In Rev. 17:17 we find out that God placed this in their hearts to fulfill his will. God has judged the Great Whore. The kings were made drunk by her wine, the apostles were made drunk by the Holy Spirit, yin/yang.

          In Revelation chapter 18 we see Babylon is the subject here for real, not the Great Whore. But what is Babylon ? It represents mans venture at governing himself without God at the head. All of the Beast Systems of Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, even revived Rome or the European Union are in this category. So another Angel comes with another judgment, this is a judgment on Babylon or all the Beast Systems. Babylon is Fallen, is Fallen. This world will be burning after the Seal judgments, the Trump judgments and the Vial judgments. Men will cry at her burning. Rich merchants will bewail her destruction, those same people that served money over God.

          Babylon is become the habitation of devils. Satan is cast down from heaven and Appolyon and Scorpion like demon are loosed from the pit to torment man kind. God cries come out of her my people that you not share in her plagues. I think this is God telling Israel to flee unto the Wilderness in Revelation chapter 12.

          God judges the Great Whore, by using the Anti-Christ.

          God judges Babylon with the Seal/Trump and Vial Judgments.

          The Great Whore = All False Religion since the beginning of time.

          Babylon = All the Beast Systems that tried to govern without God at its head.

          In Daniel chapter 2, we see that a Rock (Jesus) is hewn out of a Mountain, and destroys Nebuchadnezzar’s Idol. (Beast System)

          • im gunna go with what the bible says. she is Babylon the Great who falls cause her flesh is completely burned with fire by the waters that are people of nations and by ten horns and the wild beast that are the kings of the earth who have fornicated with her.

            • RON

              The bible SAYS, Rev. 17:17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the JUDGMENT of the GREAT WHORE that sitteth upon many waters:

              So why would you say she is Babylon he Great when God own Angel says she id the Great Whore ? She is described with four descriptions, Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Abominations of Earth. You changed her into Babylon the Great. Gd calls her the Great Whore. Later on she is describe as Rome to John, in verse 18. But why or how can she be described as both?

              Because False Religion was a part of every Beast System, ALL 7 of them, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the coming Revived Rome/European Union.

              Those Seven Beast Systems were referred to as Kings that had fallen, because they were ruled by a King that of course fell to another King. Daniel came from the Babylonian perspective in that there were only 4 Kingdoms and a 5th to come out of the fourth from his vantage point, Egypt and Assyria had already fallen. I read this stuff for 30 years, and never had a clue, all of the sudden its like BOOM, it is open for me to see it.

              8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. ( Who is it that can come out of the pit and goes into perdition ? Only Satan.

              10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (The Anti-Christ is the 7th King, but when he comes he will rule but a short time (3 1/2 years or so)

              11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,(Satan) and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. ( Satan is the 8th King, he possesses the 7th King (Anti-Christ) that is why the 7th King rules but a short time. The Beast that was, and is not, YET IS is of course Satan, he is of the Seven, no other entity could be of all seven, but he ruled from absentia (from Heaven) where he accused the brethren, so he was, but was not, YET IS, because when Michael cast him out of Heaven, he will come down having Great Wrath, and possess the Anti-Christ in the 3 1/2 year range of the peace deal.

              The 10 Kings give their power to the Anti-Christ, and rules with him a short time, or one hour. They can not be 10 kings from 2000 years ago.

              Thus the Great Whore rides the back of the Beast who has SEVEN HEADS (Assyria, Egypt, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, Revived Rome, Revived Rome or the European Union is the Head that’s Healed) and the Beast had 10 Horns, that is the 10 kings that rule with Satan. So the Great Whore is part of every Beast System, but the 10 Kings in League with the Anti-Christ kill her off, she is no more. Because the Beast/Anti-Christ will not share his kingdom with ANY GODS, he will MAGNIFY HIMSELF, above all, and SERVE NO GODS (Daniel 11:37) He will kill off all Religions, except Judaism, because God will protect Israel in the Wilderness Rev. 12.

              God BLESS

            • “So why would you say she is Babylon he Great when God own Angel says she id the Great Whore”

              i already answerd that. read my comment. i had posted what the scripture says. read it. its not hard to get. if you cant get it then it is obvious Jehovah doesnt want to reveal that to you.

              https://e-watchman.com/israel-god/

            • RON
            • no thanks. this is kindergarten. i dont need your help understanding the truth. after reafing parts of your comments i can see you have a lot to learn.

            • RON

              An arrogant “Christian” I see. You have a lot to learn bud, I have been a Christian over 39 years and a preacher for 25 years. You come off as a poor excuse for a Christian.

            • thanks???

              perhaps you should take my advice or leave.

              https://e-watchman.com/got-questions/

            • Beverly kenyon

              I hope it’s leave because he’s making my eyes bleed having to read his words! Ugh!

            • yeah it wasnt my intention to come off as arrogant at all. thats why i wanted him to read some comments before he starts waisting breath educating people here such as Kevin who Jesus is. its like me going into a saddle shop and explaing to the craftsman where leather comes from. all anyones going to do is roll their eyes at him and say thats nice so as not to hurt his feelings. its clear reading his comments that 39 years has got him nowhere but if he took the time to read before commenting then he could be better acquainted but seems hes here, like others who have come and gone, to promote his belief instead of seeking the truth.

            • Beverly kenyon

              D34D 4L!3N there’s absolutely no way you came across as arrogant. DO NOT let that person make you feel bad about yourself. He could’ve had a healthy debate with you but he wasn’t open to reason and truth so resorted to name calling. That’s low. All of us here on Brother King’s, us truth seekers, who know you, know his name calling is ridiculous! You’re so right, his thirty years has got him nowhere. I feel a bit sorry for him. All those years and for what? What a waste.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              love that link ……”pow”

            • Beverly kenyon

              There’s nothing arrogant about D34D 4L!3N! He tried reasoning with you but you’re the one who became arrogant and a poor excuse for a Christian by having to brag about your credentials! Well, here’s a chance to live up to your credentials and open your bible, one that doesn’t say, thee and thou, we’re in the modern world now, and read 2Tim3:7 and then for good measure try 1Cor13:4. Don’t bother replying because I don’t have time for arrogant wasters.

            • RON

              Yes, that’s why he said my posts were kindergarden stuff. That is an insult. No Christian talks to another Christian like that.

            • no. i wasnt implying your post was but the subject matter in discussion is a no brainer

            • RON

              Christians don’t talk to brothers like that, you were wrong.

            • then ignore me and move on

            • Beverly kenyon

              I’m a single person Ron and have to do most things myself so I’m time deficient, I never have enough time! My time is so precious to me hence I have no time for wasters and that’s how you’re coming across. If the cap fits Ron. You started with the kindergarten stuff when you threw your dummy out of the pram. A mature and reasonable person would have asked why was your posts coming across as kindergarten stuff. But out went the dummy (pacifier)! If you’re truthful Ron, my impression was that you wanted to showcase you’re cleverness. And that’s a shame because you could’ve learned a lot from D34 4L!3N and with no judgement. You lost out there!

            • Zephy Malone

              Luke 10:21 i praise you father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Identifying “Babylon the Great”

            The book of Revelation contains expressions that are not to be understood literally. (Revelation 1:1) For example, it mentions a woman with the name “Babylon the Great” written on her forehead. This woman is said to be sitting on “crowds and nations.” (Revelation 17:1, 5, 15) Since no literal woman could do this, Babylon the Great must be symbolic. So, what does this symbolic prostitute represent?.

            Read more https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/babylon-the-great-revelation/

            • RON

              I understand it is symbolism brother, I wrote a 7 part series on Revelation, only finished 5 parts so far, and out of the 404 verses in Revelation, 289 mention or have old testament lingo. For instance, the Woman in Rev. 12 is clothed in the Sun, Moon and 12 Stars. Joseph had a dream in Genesis that the Sun, Moon and 11 (he being the 12th of course) Stars would pay obeisance unto him. So the Woman in Rev. 12 is Israel, not the Church.

              Yes, you are 100 percent correct, Revelation is a code, we have to use the old testament to break this code, then it becomes literal.

              God has showed me much in the past 6 months. I just wrote a piece on Rev. 13, explaining the 7 heads and ten horns on my disqus channel. Thanks for being cordial. God Bless

            • Zephy Malone

              If one does some research on babylonian mystery teaching and then compares it to doctrine of the different religions in the world , something interesting stands out. Try do this and then count how many that doesn’t have any influence from babylonian teachings;)

            • Burt Reynolds

              I have done that. It is interesting. What significance do you apply to it?

      • Bklyn Kevin

        So what does Babylon the Great really represent?
        It represents what the Watchtower has said all along.
        Babylon the Great symbolizes the world empire of false religion.

        That is – all organized religion with the exception of the true faith of Jesus Christ. How may we be sure?
        Babylon the great is symbolized as a great harlot and queen mother that commits fornication with the kings of the earth. One notable aspect of Babylon’s religion was that it featured triads of gods and demons. Most prominent among the Babylonian pantheon was the trinity composed of Anu, Bel and Ea. Another triad consisted of Shamash, Sin and Ishtar. From Babel the trinity was taken into Egypt in the form of the gods, Osiris, Isis and Horus.
        To this day, the ages-old Hindu religion has retained the babylonish triad. Christendom’s nonsensical and unbiblical doctrine of the Trinity gives evidence that Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism are also the immoral offspring of their babylonish mother, which is why Babylon the Great is called “the mother of the harlots.”
        Read more. https://e-watchman.com/babylon-the-great-what-is-it/#comment-2729621813

        In the larger scheme of things Babylon’s overthrow must
        stand as a vivid pattern for the downfall of the last kingdom and the entire present system – including the iniquitous harlot, which is seemingly inseparably linked to the last king; thus, Babylon the great At some point afterwards the system of organized religion known as Babylon the great will be destroyed as well. In this way, the last king will rock all the nations and kill his own people. But what is meant by his ascending above the stars of God?
        Read more
        https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-counsel-against-all-the-earth/

        Search results for: Babylon the Great
        . Read more. https://e-watchman.com/?s=+Babylon+the+Great+&lang=en

        • RON

          We must remember, Satan understands much, he knows False Religion is the Great Whore, but just because the Watch Tower knows this (maybe from Satan) that doesn’t make them of God. I used to read them 30 years ago, and they have way to much wrong.

          As per the Trinity, did it ever occur to you that maybe Satan, knowing the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, copied it on other Religions ?

          The Trinity is TRUE, but misunderstood. Jesus is NOT THE FATHER, nor is the Holy Spirit the FATHER, the FATHER has the Glory, but they are ALL THREE exactly the same in make-up and/or likeness. We know the three have always been, Genesis, Let US make man in OUR image and in OUR likeness.

          Take a body of water, with three trillion gallons in it. Every ounce had the exact same make-up, CHEMICAL,and otherwise, it is EXACTLY THE SAME. Now pour 100 gallons (Jesus) of that water over your head, you will be soaked, but OK. Now again, pour 100 gallons (Holy Spirit) of this water over your head, again you will be soaking wet, but you will be OK. Now comes the GLORY.

          Pour all THREE TRILLION GALLONS (Gods Glory) of the Water over your head, you will surely DROWN. You nor I can come into the true presence of Gods Glory, we would surly die…..BUT……..God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are EXACTLY THE SAME in Make-up.

          They are Holy, Pure, Righteous, Peaceful, Loving, Caring, Forgiving, Joyous, Just, Merciful, Sovereign, Graceful, Good, Eternal, etc. etc.

          They are ONE IN SPIRIT, not ONE IF THEIR OFFICE, they each have different JOBS. God is the Father, he has the abundance if the Glory, Jesus is the Son/Redeemer and the Holy Spirit is the Comforter, they are exactly the same in LIKENESS, but not the same in GLORY. You can not come into the PRESENCE of God the Father, but Jesus and the Holy Spirit can LIVE IN YOUR HEART.

          That is the Trinity.

          • youre embarrassing yourself Ron. you should really read up on a few articles here on e-Watchman, read some of Kevin’s comments for example and others as well. then reread your comment and realize how you sound.

            • RON

              The Holy Spirit is my guide, not you nor your buddies.

            • then did it guide you here after 39 years? James 4:10 – https://e-watchman.com/is-the-holy-spirit-a-force-or-a-person/

            • ewatchman

              Hi Ron. Welcome to my website. Thanks for your comments. Now it is time for you to go. Bye, bye.

            • RON

              Hello brother, I agree with most of what you say, which is why I stopped by, but you have a user who like to insult people it seems. Christians don’t insult other Christians. I do not allow belittling on my channel.

              God Bless

  • Vincent

    To understand Babylon the Great you have to understand the books of Revelation, Genesis and the unforgiveable sin.

    The book of Revelation in symbolic terms relates the culmination of God’s rest day with judgment of the 144000 and all of mankind. The book is organized into 7 parts: 1-Chapter 1, 2-Chapters 2+3, 3-Chapters 4+5, 4-Chapters 6-19, 5–Chapter 20, 6-Chapter 21, 7-Chapter 22.

    There are 2 resurrections: 1-144000 during the re-creation (Mt 19:28, Re Chapters 6-19), 2-all of mankind during the millenium. Chapters 6-19 relate to the first resurrection of the 144000 only. Chapter 20 is of mankind under kingdom rule. Chapters 21+22 are about New Jerusalem and the trees of life.

    New Jerusalem and the trees of life are critical to the understanding of Babylon the Great. In the book of Genesis God created the garden of Eden, the tree of life and the first couple. You can now see Jehovah has painstakingly re-created what was lost on earth by reading Revelation: Christ, second Adam, 144000 the second woman, New Jerusalem the second garden, and trees of life the second tree of the garden of Eden.

    But remember the tree in the garden of Eden had a dual purpose: the knowledge of good and bad or guilt! The evildoers in the garden incurred that guilt and were sentenced to death for the unforgiveable sin. The unforgiveable sin can only be committed during a “TIME OF JUDGMENT”. This is why Jesus stated every sin is forgiveable but a sin against the spirit. So what is the unforgiveable sin: transgression of a divine command during a time of judgment!! In the day you eat of it you will die!!

    Mankind was always supposed to live in a time of judgment until the 7th day was declared GOOD! Once Adam sinned the time of judgment was suspended for all of mankind. Hence the ability for a man to be resurrected. “Sold under sin” is not the same as committing an unforgiveable sin.

    The re-creation or last days or the Lord’s Day begins a new “TIME OF JUDGMENT” for God’s people. The second Adam passed his test on earth. Now the test is of his bride, the 144000. Yes there have been many judgment periods in the bible (flood, sodom). But they did not relate to God’s rest.

    So who will be judged during the last days time of judgment. There are 4 groups: faithful slave, evil slave, domestics, and the confirmed drunkards of Matthew 24. Look carefully at the following verses:

    (Revelation 17:4-6) And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

    Who are the “the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth”. They are the evil slave and the confirmed drunkards. And “the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus”. They are the faithful slave and the domestics.

    These groups are judged for different reasons. The faithful slave by preaching “good news of the kingdom…in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations” The domestics by “And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.”

    Now that I have laid the foundation, who is Babylon the Great? It is the spiritual and moral wicked force against God’s will and work. It can ONLY exist in a time of judgment. So it isn’t false religion or America. Once God’s judgment period begins, all those who are in opposition to the faithful slave and the in-gathering fulfillment commit the unforgiveable sin.

    In the first scripture below the evil slave commits the unforgiveable sin during a time of judgment by denying the in-gathering of the 144000 and not preaching the good news to the domestics/brothers. In the second scripture the confirmed drunkards masquerade as Christ’s chosen not leaving Babylon.

    (2 Peter 3:3, 4) For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”

    (Matthew 7:21-23) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.

    As an added note: Christ separates the sheep and the goats (faithful slave v evil slave) but the ANGELS harvest the weeds from the wheat (confirmed drunkards v domestics/Christ’s brothers).

  • Marisa Gomez

    So…. we dont need to be baptized like Jehová witnesses, becuse the baldenses were holy and not jehova witnesses

    • Andres Felipe

      Te recomiendo estos dos artículos que hablan sobre el bautismo; me parece que debemos aprender a tomar decisiones drásticas en nuestra relación con jehova así su pueblo no esté de acuerdo y tengamos que hacer cosas que desagradan a ellos. Recuerda que Jesús dijo que hicieramos lo que ellos dicen pero no hacer lo que hacen. Recuerda los profetas de la antigüedad :ellos fueron escogidos directamente por jehova y no necesitaron el permiso de los principales del pueblo ,antes bien se ganaron el odio de ellos .estos artículos creo que te ayudarán : https://e-watchman.com/es/day-jehovahs-anger/ y este También creo que es muy bueno : http://www.baruq.uk/perimeno_baptism-es.html

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