So it will be in the conclusion of the system

//So it will be in the conclusion of the system

Sunday, October 30

So it will be in the conclusion of the system of things.Matt. 13:40.

“The conclusion of the system of things” began in 1914. During the war that broke out that year, the few thousand anointed Christians, “the sons of the Kingdom,” were in spiritual captivity to Babylon the Great. In 1919, Jehovah delivered them, making a clear distinction between them and “the weeds,” or imitation Christians. He gathered “the sons of the Kingdom” into an organized people, in fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy. Zion, Jehovah’s organization of spirit beings, brought forth her spirit-anointed sons and organized them into a nation. Just like the early Christians, the anointed “sons of the Kingdom” were to be witnesses of Jehovah. As such, they would stand out as different by their Christian conduct and by their preaching “this good news of the Kingdom . . . for a witness to all the nations.”

COMMENTARY

Let’s face the facts. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe a myth — the myth being that Jesus Christ began ruling the world in 1914 and that the conclusion began then.

Consider the various definitions of a myth: 1) A traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

2) Any invented story, idea, or concept.

3) An unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are routinely subjected to various statements such as in the daily text:

“The conclusion of the system of things” began in 1914. During the war that broke out that year, the few thousand anointed Christians, “the sons of the Kingdom,” were in spiritual captivity to Babylon the Great. In 1919, Jehovah delivered them, making a clear distinction between them and “the weeds,” or imitation Christians.”

As has been often pointed out, the Watchtower’s 1914 myth can be easily disproven. The question is: do Jehovah’s Witnesses prefer to believe false stories?

Take for example the statement regarding the sons of the Kingdom being delivered from spiritual captivity to Babylon the Great in 1919. In the God’s Kingdom Rules! publication Bethel claims that Charles Russell claimed it was imperative for Christians to request that their names be stricken from their respective church membership rosters, because doing so would demonstrate that they had heeded the command to “get out of her.”

So, if the International Bible Students had already gotten out of Babylon the Great prior to 1919 how was it possible for them to be in captivity in 1919? And, why was it necessary for God to miraculously deliver them if all that was required to “get out of her” was a clerical procedure of having their names stricken from church registries?

Not only that, the WT claims that since their release from spiritual bondage the religions of Babylon no longer have any power to restrain Jehovah’s Witnesses. But how can that be, since Jehovah’s Witnesses are under restraint in many countries —especially those dominated by Islam? But even in some so-called Christian nations, such as Russia, the work of Jehovah’s Witnesses is restricted and facing outright ban —no doubt due to clergy influence over the political rulers. It is simply not true that religious opposers do not successfully impose restraints.

But consider the most obvious aspect of the Watchtower’s Jesus-is-ruling myth —the notion that the wheat and the weeds were distinguished in 1919. According to Jesus the harvest is accomplished when the angels are dispatched to uproot the weeds from the field of wheat. The weeds are then cast into the furnace, which is where the weeping and gnashing of their teeth will be. In application Jesus explained that the angels actually remove all persons practicing lawlessness and all things that cause stumbling out from his Kingdom. His Kingdom is his congregation —also known as “the congregation of the firstborn.”

That means that after the harvest there should be found absolutely no causes for stumbling —none —since Jesus clearly stated that the angels will remove “all things that cause stumbling.” So, if anointed JW’s comprise the congregation of Christ in this present time —otherwise known as “his Kingdom” —why are there still numerous things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness within the organization? Of course, no one at Bethel could possibly supply an intelligent answer to that question. And the atmosphere is such that no one dares ask such things.

Perhaps the most absurd facet of the myth is the suggestion that generations of common churchgoers have somehow already been thrown into the symbolic fiery furnace and experienced the bitter judgment of weeping and gnashing their teeth, knowing that they are outside the Kingdom. The myth of Santa Claus streaking across the night sky in a reindeer-driven sled is more plausible.

The irony is, the Watchtower’s invisible parousia myth is a massive stumbling block. That will become apparent when Christ actually returns and commences the harvest. Then, indeed, the myth-masters will find themselves thrown out. That is where the weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. So it will be in the conclusion of the system of things.

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Given the fact that the end of all things has drawn close, I have decided to set up another website for the purpose of reaching a different audience. So, over the course of the next few weeks I will be temporarily suspending my writing here until the new site is launched.

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2017-03-18T11:58:49+00:00 October 30th, 2016|Commentary|105 Comments
  • LW

    Given the fact that the end of all things has drawn close, I have decided to set up another website for the purpose of reaching a different audience. So, over the course of the next few weeks I will be temporarily suspending my writing here until the new site is launched.
    O_O – Interesting…

  • “myth-masters”
    Hahaha love it,
    I think you just coined a new phrase!

  • tortas

    robert, can you detail your different audience? thanks

    • ewatchman

      Government officials

      • Bobby 6343

        That is such an assignment! May Jehovah bless your undertaking.

      • Joyce Haze

        Dear Robert, please explain?

      • What a great idea, warn them of their coming doom & for acting foolish.

      • tortas

        ITS ABOUT TO GET REAL UP IN THIS ……

      • 1914for100Alex

        Oh boy. Here, you might need this information LOL 😉

        http://www.dronesurvivalguide.org/

  • Burt Reynolds

    Hello Robert, it would be nice if you could say what is happening to this site, rather than leave the matter in suspense and silent. I don’t know how others feel but I depend on the spiritual guidance and fellowship here and without such, it rather feels empty inside. Of course you must do as you feel lead, but there are many here who ask where would we go….thanks.

    • Burt, what I’ve learned to do is dig into some of the older stuff. In the evening I like to listen to some of the older podcasts or several of the recorded commentaries. I do enjoy the new stuff but sometimes you just have to go deep in the pantry for the old stuff!

      • Burt Reynolds

        I shall do as you say Joseph and raid the pantry. At least it’s ours is more than well stocked with well oiled dishes. …..I should think the watchtower pantry is full of cobwebs and the howling of the beast of baskaville hall, loads of those American weed balls blowing by….don’t know what you call them….tumbleweed….that’s it….and acres and acres of dessert sand, dotted with the odd abandoned scarecrow…..maybe a banker or two and more than a few attorneys and filing cabinets full of old light teachings. Maybe we can exchange encouragement on Roberts site while he is away and keep in touch….can’t wait to see what 1914 will come up with!!!!!!!!!

        • Anderiega

          And we can all start utilizing the forum more for encouragement. Yes….I’ll be digging through the pantry more!

    • ewatchman

      Don’t worry Burt, this site is not going anywhere. I just won’t be writing daily commentaries for a few weeks. That’s all.

    • Joyce Haze

      Yes, I have had the same concern!!!

    • Joyce Haze

      Burt, am I understanding any thing on the comment section today. Is this an indication. We have reached that time when the elect or anointed would be making that “witness” to the Governors, Officials, Kings of the earth. Or am I just reading into this in confusion!

      • Joyce Haze

        It’s interesting because as JESUS explained the signs given to watch for will not begin until this”witness” is made by the Chosen Ones. Those signs, events, seem so very close at hand at an accelerated rate. Luke 21: 7-11.

      • ewatchman

        I am taking my cue from the book of Ezekiel, where in the 29th chapter Jehovah commanded Ezekiel to prophesy against Pharaoh and all of Egypt.

        • Joyce Haze

          Dear Robert, thank you so very much. You have explained Bible prophesy through the scriptures with such clarity that we can see and understand all the events unfolding before our very eyes. As you have always said JEHOVAH did not provide all this information to trick or confuse anyone. I truly believe in my heart that you have been blessed by JEHOVAH in helping us all to better understand. Thank you again for your work, your insight and your knowledge!!!!!

          • Amen

          • Peaceful Waters

            Beautifully said Joyce my sentiments exactly!

        • Could not have come at a better time!
          https://youtu.be/FDUsTqIt9nI

          BRING IT ON

          • makes One wonder how it revives from the stroke

        • Burt Reynolds

          This is going to be interesting.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello Joyce, no I don’t think you are off base. This world cannot continue in the manner it is going. Certainly no one is expecting the end at this time, least of all the watchtower and that is a sign of its imminent arrival. The bible says that no one knows the time or the hour of the tribulation and so I don’t try to predict. For others such as the annointed, maybe they are given insight. It’s not for me to question. I just carry on trying to improve my standing before Jehovah and to witness where I can and to ‘keep awake, for I know not when the master is returning’. Jehovah knows the heart of his people. With or without the help this site lends us, it is only our standing before Jehovah that will see us through. We retain that even if the site goes down, or remains. So it remains for us to stand firm alone in our faith and to wait and see what happens. It’s not about Armageddon anyway, or about survival. It is about the love of righteousness and the personification of that righteousness. Survival is a bonus, not an expectation. As for Robert, he has said he will be back when he has set up his new site and we can trust in that. There are other sheep to gather and to warn so we should expect to be left while he does that. The doctor goes to the ill, not the fit. As for us, we remain strong in our faith to Jehovah through Jesus Christ and wait patiently. You are welcome to contact m e on Facebook if you wish…you will find me under Groke Goddard and you can message me there if you wish if I can offer you any support. I don’t have much other than friendship. I suppose we can be certain of one thing. Armageddon will arrive to the second on time. It will not be late.

      • Annie

        Joyce, dear Sister, I think the final witness from the chosen ones comes after everything else & when the chosen ones finally become truly anointed, At that stage all religions will have been destroyed etc & the witness is given to the Governors & Kings of the earth as a warning that they are to be gathered together to face Jehovah in the final battle. Then the anointed ones will shine like stars & shortly after will be martyred & transformed immediately on their deaths to the heavens as Brothers of Jesus – that is when the marriage of the Lamb will take place. **I will edit this shortly, I’m sitting outside on the balcony in hiding whilst baby is put to bed, so I will find the Scriptures for you when I’m allowed back in the apartment 😉

        • Joyce Haze

          Dear Annie, I thought the same thing but in reading Luke 21: 12, 13, JESUS warning of the signs, the events He speaks to would take place after “the witness” by the chosen! In reading Luke beginning in chapt. 21 vs. 7-13. Please help with scripture to better understand.

        • Joyce Haze

          Yes Annie, thank you for your reply. The scriptures Kevin shared put my brain on track.

      • I think the time has come to put them on notice.

        • Patrick Langat

          Not so fast! I will say “fast approaching” when 666 is implemented, when peace and security announcement is made after WW3, when a third of mankind have been annihilated, when people have thrown their money to the streets, and when the 8th king is ruling among other prophecy fulfilments.

  • Bobby 6343

    Keep us to to date with the progress of your new venture. If there is any I can “do or contribute” please do not hesitate to ask, that would include those of us who truly support you and your site.

    Thank you for your work-through Jehovah and his son.

  • noname

    Its almost like a “fiat” myth, like a fiat currency , your forced to except value in it. Its amazing how a few relaxed reasonable questions put a whole different light on the likelihood they the prophecies were fulfilled in a time that now has no witnesses, they could rewrite history however they wanted and noone would be witness for or against it.
    We just need the truth, and if we were wrong we need to stand up and fix it no matter what the consequences.

  • Annie

    well! No-one has said it yet, so I will…………….gutted & then some!
    But as much as I and others rely heavily on your teachings I know that at some stage we would have to share you with others, Bro Robert. May Jehovah bless your future endeavours (esp with Govt Officials)

    This news came on just the wrong day for me after my ‘meeting’ this morning…..or rather, ‘my ambush’ by 2 elders as I left after the Public Talk.
    To make a short story, you, our dearest brother, cannot possibly be anointed since you have been disfellowshipped.
    The story about the Hedge Funds etc is completely made up by you & you have no proof, neither do you have any proof that the WTS was involved with NATO as an NGO – they need to see official letters as proof!
    The whole pedophile issue is simply stories from years ago that have been blown out of proportion & pedophiles are NOT tolerated in the organisation, being hounded out as soon as they set their pretty little faces inside the KH’s.
    The organisation is called ‘Christian’ witnesses of Jehovah in order to maintain their ‘charitable’ status, so why on earth would the sign on the front of Bethel say ‘they will beat their swords into plough-shares etc’ if they were involved with the UN? blah, blah, blah……..

    I now have a choice, I can stay with you & suffer the D penalty or I can stop listening to empty words & follow the teachings of the organisation.
    I actually feel like crying, it’s a horrid thing being threatened with disfellowshipping, even though I now know the truth.
    As Burt said, we rely on this site for spiritual comfort, my only joy is that the forum might be used more

    • ewatchman

      The elders are obligated to defend the WT no matter what. If they did anything less then that they would be removed from their positions. But that’s alright. They won’t be able to brush Jesus off so easily when he comes around.

      • Annie

        & that could be much sooner than they think!

    • 1914for100Alex

      I know what I’d do. I’d wear that letter ‘D’ like a badge of honor if that’s how they’re gonna play. Remember, you wouldn’t be the only one here to have suffered that fate. They didn’t like what Robert had to say to them either. I know there’s more to it than that. It’s an emotional thing to have to go through, but it’s nothing compared to what we’re all going to be facing in the near future. We’re all here for you 🙂

      • Annie

        thank you, Alex, I will wear my D badge with pride 🙂 Maybe satan is trying to get all of ‘us’ out of the congs so that we can’t spread the truth!
        I do know that the anointed sister has yet again not applied Matt 18:15-17 rule & gone running straight to an elder, I feel sad that she has done that & potentially stumbled me.

    • Anderiega

      Oh my goodness. They told you you’d be disfellowshipped? Well, I guess what would bring me comfort is thinking about the account where Jesus heals the blind man, and then the Jewish leaders kick him out of the synagogue because he was a thorn in their side. Perhaps you could write a little letter to each member of your congregation telling them you love them and you love Jehovah, but you are currently being faced with possible disfellowshipping because you have doubts about 1914. Then at least if things develop that far, you’ll have planted some seeds before they throw you out of the synagogue. Hugs to you my sister

      • Joyce Haze

        Beautiful. With having TRUE faith, that all people may be saved. Thank you Joseph for sharing, so very, very moving! Our Father through His Son CHRIST Jesus, we may all have Hope!!!

      • Annie

        thank you JS, those scenes never fail to move me – you are so kind, love you too.
        Actually, I’ve been ‘pondering’, the elder asked me to forward proofs to him about the hedge funds & pedophile issues, also about 1914 & Roberts views on it all…….now! what if???
        could it be that my example brings the truth to an elder? If so, that would be better than amazing because that particular elder is very very strict in his beliefs & is actually a great elder – would be nice to ‘convert’ him to really know the truth so that when ‘the end’ starts he can be one of those elders who lead us through into the new system……did I make sense then? Bit difficult with a 2 yr old building a zoo round me & attacking me with wooden elephants & singing Twinkle, twinkle little star at the top of her voice!!

        • 1914for100Alex

          Robert has a lot of articles that discuss 1914, but this one might be a good one to start out with seeing as how he is already a Witness:

          https://e-watchman.com/conversation-regarding-1914/

          Here are some others that might help:

          https://e-watchman.com/the-deluding-influence//

          https://e-watchman.com/closer-look-1914//

          https://e-watchman.com/1914-generation-debacle//

        • Burt Reynolds

          Might I suggest Annie that instead of you searching the information for him, as ordered, you simply tell him where he can find it for himself. Why? Because it is easy to dismiss the ‘ravings’ of someone who has been ‘infected’ with Satan , quote here…many will be led astray… And you might ask what he wants this information for….to add ridicule, to make you prove it? If you give him the sites to look at, then if he wants to know, he will look them up. If he simply wants to add ridicule, then why give him the ammunition? Why act as his servant scurrying round printing off all this stuff for him. Let him do his own searching as we did. I don’t intend to be mean to him….he did after all ask, but as with anyone, if made to work for it, it is valued all the more and he can make it his own and of course, he will see a whole lot more material. Is this not how all of us came into the truth? I’m sorry you felt intimidated, it should not be that way. I was threatened with disfellowshipping once ( and I was innocent!) and I know how it feels both from a mental and spiritual way, and that was thirty four years ago. Still cut to the bone about it, so I know how you feel along with others here. I came to the conclusion that Jehovah is more merciful than his people.

          • Annie

            thank you, Burt & everyone else. I have considered all advice from you all, both here & those whom I am friends with on FB & I have decided that I am staying within the WT organisation for the time being in that I will go to the Public Talks only.
            I have prayed hard & told Jehovah that I still have faith that the organisation truly belongs to Him & so I need to go there if only to show Jehovah that I love Him & also be under the KH prayer of the day & to sing praises to Jehovah- I get a warm fuzzy feeling during the prayer & the songs.
            My future within the org remains the decision of the elders if they decide to disfellowship me, however I will still go to the PT’s for the love of Jehovah & also in case I am needed at some stage when the WTS is destroyed.
            Funnily enough it is Wednesday now & the fact that the elder concerned hasn’t yet contacted me at all to send me his e-mail add speaks volumes……… truth, do they ACTUALLY care about their job as shepherds of the flock? NO – you here have all shown me where the real love is & the help I so badly needed.
            Having said all that I am going to delete my account here (albeit temporarily) & send this site to the elder, as Burt advised, so that he can do his own research. I am deleting here to avoid any repercussions (in the same way that our darling sister did a while back).
            One last request is that I would dearly love to see Beverly stop lurking & pop in to say Hi from time to time & all the others who only lurk – there are so many of you – we need to hear from you otherwise how do we know you are okay & how will we keep in touch when we all need comfort in the not too distant future?
            I truly do love all you guys, you have kept me sane & stopped me from stumbling, which is something my congregation has not done! I long to meet you all.
            May Jehovah bless & protect all of you. All praise to Jehovah, our loving Creator & wonderful Father.
            xoxoxo

            (Disqus thought my first attempt at posting this was spam so I’m posting it again)

            • 1914for100Alex

              Temporarily? Well then, you will be very temporarily missed! Can’t wait to have you back 🙂 Good to see you’re staying strong through all of this and glad to help. That’s what we’re here for.

          • Kevin b

            Really good.

          • Joe Dman

            Yeah, he’s good. He’s also probably pretty good at stumbling ones who haven’t built up enough love and faith in Jehovah and Jesus to put it all into perspective. So he’ll be good at being dead too. This is a case of “what is good is bad”.
            For us it isn’t an issue, so I’m not worried about anyone here, unless they are new and lurking. To that person I would say, this guy tells the truth, but he don’t know that it is prophesied that His (Jehovah’s) own people would do these things and that there is no other religion who teaches the truth, albeit plagued as you would expect, by the one who opposes the truth.

            • Sad but true, he offers on alternative. After years of building people up , he now is tearing people down. What a dangerous position to be in. No worries, Jehovah will read the hearts of those he has affected and lead them down the road of life or death.
              During the dark days ahead —after the demons are hurled down from heaven — we may expect kingdom halls to be ransacked, looted and burned down, likely led by mobs of demonized ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses seeking revenge.

              The prayer of Asaph will aptly apply then: “Remember the enemy’s taunts, O Jehovah, how a foolish people treats your name with disrespect. Do not surrender the life of your turtledove to the wild beasts. Do not forget the life of your afflicted people forever.

              Remember the covenant, for the dark places of the earth have become full of the haunts of violence. May the crushed one not turn away disappointed.

              May the lowly and the poor praise your name. Rise up, O God, and plead your legal case. Remember how the foolish taunt you all day long. Do not forget what your foes are saying. The uproar of those who defy you is ascending constantly.” – Psalms 74

            • Joe Dman

              Thanks for those scriptures Joseph. They do provide comfort. If a person can be declared righteous by Jehovah, and he does so prior to the end of this system, then he has the very real prospect of living through the GT. If a person is stumbled by this idiot, but Jehovah reads his heart, it may be that his lack of faith may result in his losing his life but being brought back during the resurrection. Who knows, JT may even see the light and repent or have the hope of a resurrection. Who am I to question what Jehovah will do. And I mean that not in a speculative way, but that I won’t argue with Jehovah’s decisions.
              I feel it is venues like this that provide a place for like minded individuals to meet and encourage each other as we behold the day drawing near. One negative thing is that people may see us as a follower of Robert’s and I pray to Jehovah that all these accolades Robert receives is viewed as glory given to Jehovah. It doesn’t end as well when a person takes credit for a gift from God. JT in the video has the gift of teaching, so sad he is taking the credit and using that gift to alienate people from Jehovah.

            • Anderiega

              Well said Joe. My thoughts too

            • sally

              Well said Joe. It is interesting insight for sure into the workings of the organisation, but that is as far as it goes. It beats me how anyone could have had the commitment so far as being an elder within the organisation, to now dropping Jehovah’s name, shame on him.

          • “the Jehovah’s witnesses”?

            answer is exposed by the bad grammer in the title. the Jehovah was not real to the them so the they left the the brand name they were following to begin with the the.

            it was his witnesses they left because it was his org that they were following to begine with. not Jehovah.
            did they leave to keep following Jehovah in truth? doesnt seem like it. idk.

        • Joe Dman

          After I was reinstated, I went to a well respected elder that I knew very well. I told him my concerns with 1914. And I told him about Robert. He told me that if it bothered me to just avoid talking about it in FS. So there you go. There may be many reasonable elders who will listen, but it depends on their ability to keep it a secret so that they can be there when the time comes. If it would cause them to in a way revolt, then obviously Jehovah would probably keep it from them if he intends to use them later.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I have that film. I could watch it over and again. Somehow, just to have the words of Christ spoken, even by an actor….the facial expressions, the significance of a touch from the son of God, the sayings he spoke, the healing, the insight….it brings just the merest scent of what it must have been like to meet the Christ, yet it is sufficient just to bring a little comfort of the reality. How much more so, must have been the actual meeting with the very son of Jehovah.

    • Burt Reynolds

      So sad. Just bear in mind that you cannot be disfellowshipped from Jehovah. You could disfellowship yourself! But no one can do it for you. Jehovah and Jesus are with you, and you will NOT be abandoned.X

    • Kevin b

      This is straight out of the elders book. See screen shot below. Also the NGO information is on Wikipedia. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eaad2e37986f0059612f57886da8dcff42c586aaeff0b4a5820241ced35b7d74.png

      • Annie

        thank you so much, Kevin, appreciate it 🙂

        • Joe Dman

          When I first learned of the UN fiasco, I went to the UN site and copied the letter to the witnesses. I bought the WT off ebay that had the article where they all but said the end would come in 1975. The lady selling it had a lot of copies. She said her parents had stocked up on them to place in FS. They used the word “Possibly” in answer to their own question, Could 1975 be the year? I was loaded with proof. But I never used any of it. I’m of the opinion we shouldn’t make them aware of these things. There time of test will come. After all it was prophesied that they wouldn’t believe, until terror makes them understand what was heard. So if they heard, apparently someone told them. But I suppose this is talking about Robert having contacted the “leaders” in several ways.

          • yes terror will only make them understand. my thoughts are also –
            there were other unnamed prophets around the events of Elijah & Elisha. Robert’s being the modern day Ezekiel, 2:5; 33:33, why not be like the others that where with Elijah and speak up in support of Ezekiel/Robert. maybe we’l get a double dose of spirit too. who here doubts that Jehovah himself is not teaching us through his anointed Robert King? Jehovah has asked “who among you will hear this? Who will pay attention and listen for the time to come?” although Robert said the question was rhetorical, are we not the Ones paying attention and listening to Jehovah through his anointed faithful servent? lets be like the apprentice Elisha and those whom Jehovah gave his spirit alongside Moses. Numbers 11:16-17

  • Sun

    No, hear all people.

    First son’s of kingdom are chosen when the great tribulation start. So They are safe. But the great multidude are spouses to the son’s of kingdom.
    So all menn son’s of the kingdom must marry so many wives They can, marry for God only need say Yes Matthew 5:37.
    So the spouses are holy, and because They are holy 1 Chorintian 7:14, They survive.

    And now you understand the harvest start when Jesus coming back, all people who not are spouses to the son’s of kingdom and are not blessed by God They go lake of fire.

    And all the holy spouses shall live in the camp to Gods holy people in paradise, read revelation 20: 9?

    And this spouses extrimly many wives, They will rule as Queens over the universe togheter with the son’s of kingdom (144000) later after the tousen year is finish and the last test.

  • Sun

    Important to understand, only the 144000 and theyre spouses and children are holy. 1 Chorintian 7:14

  • Sun

    I try marry many tousen wives on Facebook , They only need say Yes Matthew 5:37

    • Yo Rastamon, wat u b smoking mon?

    • Annie

      A THOUSAND WIVES!!!! Good grief mon, you are brave, slightly deluded, but brave nonetheless
      P.s. don’t blow any of that smoke my way please 😉

  • Sun

    All women Will you marry me? Yust say Yes !

    • Anderiega

      No

  • Sun

    Only elders and congregation servants must have one wife.

    Think, in first century many menn had many wives, so this menn become Christian , do you think They sent all wives away and keeped only one wife. No thats crazy, They keeped all wives.

  • Sun

    you have today known 300 billion galaxy, if only 144000 shall rule, that be very much. so all the holy wives they will help with rule the univese.
    it not be much sex, because if 1 saint have 1 million wives and sex one wife every day, it be 2740 year between every time they get sex.

  • Sun

    and it never stop because universe expand all time

  • Sun

    but not all saints got wives, many never marry, and woman saint coud only have one mann. so it is the elect who live in the end times so get all this wives, because they not die, they only get new body when Jesus coming back.

  • Sun

    this we know because of the written words

    Revelation 22:5Names of God Bible (NOG)

    5 There will be no more night, and they will not need any light from lamps or the sun because the Lord God will shine on them. They will rule as kings forever and ever.

  • Andres Felipe

    hello my dear and beloved brothers have long wanted to write … I had perdodo DISQUS my account but I have not stopped reading to the robert brother and his comments are very encouraging for me: do not mind if I say that I am from the already I am stilled and cilenciado by the elders for not being able to stop talking about the very good things that I have learned here .. so again I want to say that I hope that we remain a family and I see that is growing … a hug and kiss for all of you who are with me in this fight … I love from afar

    • I’m with you brother Felipe, sending you Love from the east coast of the USA! Hang in there buddy!!

    • Burt Reynolds

      Lovely to hear from you Andres, with love and greetings from England.

      • Andres Felipe

        England? you go ‘it’s a pleasure

        • Burt Reynolds

          It’s a pleasure to meet you Andres old chum. Drop in when you are next in Blighty for a cup of tea.

          • Andres Felipe

            cuando quieras nos tomamos la tacita de café colombiano … no es peremos al nuevo mundo de dios

            • Burt Reynolds

              No speaky de espania. Me ignorant Gringo only speaky de eenglish. Non comprendo. ?

            • anytime we take the cup of Colombian coffee is not … Let us hope the new world of God.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Mucho grasias el josephuso.

    • Beverly kenyon

      Hiya Andreas, it’s fantastic to see you’re alive and still kicking! It was only the other day I was wondering where you’d got to and was hoping that everything was going good for you and your family so it was lovely to see your post. Don’t let anything bring you down and just keep going….hopefully we’re on the last stretch of this system!

      • Andres Felipe

        if still kicking like a phoenix

  • Andres Felipe

    if you want then I tell them my story jajajaj not want to be bothered … Remember, I’m a friend over Bogota, Colombia

  • Sun

    from a human perspective it look funny with tousens of wives, but Jesus have 144000, king solomon had 900 wives. it is not wronge, total legal, because God have not said a man can not have many tousen wives. But normal a man only have one wife.

  • Tony Garcia

    It’s funny b that JW s think they are the only ones going to Heaven. Mormons and Jews went through similar trails but never boasted such claims.

  • Sun

    bible say 144000 are bought from earth 14:3 The only ones who could learn the new song were the 144,000 who had been bought from the earth. No one else could learn it.

    we not know more, where shall their spouses and children so are holy live, on earth or in heaven? it look like on earth in the camp to the holy people. But we not sure.

  • Sun

    we not sure about most things, best say we not sure

  • Sun

    because this is true, extrimly many learnings have been wrong, so its best say we not sure

  • Sun

    sad for all this people elders have throw out of congregations because of wrong learnings from leaders in religions.

  • Andres Felipe

    thanks for the receiving and want to say that my family is fine, my 12 year old son sends greetings … do not know how happy I am to know I’m not alone in this struggle of wanting to help some who know more to jehova and what will come in the future. and robert will take to give us good spiritual food because we do not put a theme so that together we talk. it seems to them? I hope that the translation is good’m using google

  • Anonymous

    Hi Robert. I’m Anonymous from Dominican Republic. Have you ever read the watchtower 2016 public edition number 6? In the part talks about the people that wil go to the heaven, they suggested that the “First resurrection”….. is not yet!!!! Like you posted so many years ago!! At the Spanish version is more clear. Please, can you read this article and confirm me that i think so? If the “first resurrection” is in the future, then… the “Christ’s presence” ………. !!!!! I can’t believe that i’ve read in the spanish version!!! Sorry for my bad english.

    • ewatchman

      The Governing Body produce two versions of the WT for a reason. The public version of the magazine gets the stripped down, simple version of the truth, while JW’s get the slicked up, complicated version. The public edition simply says: “Just as Jesus was resurrected from earth to life in heaven, others will be too.” However, the study edition might throw in something about the first resurrection beginning in 1918, blah, blah. The simple version is always the truth. The complex version leaves a lot of room for mischief.

  • True Witness

    Hello all my dear brothers and sisters.
    We all waiting for this old world to collapse. After America is gone there will start really hard times for all of us lovers of Jehovah and Jesus. The 8th King is almost here. We all rely only on Jehovah and his Kingdom and future King Jesus. Stay strong not so much time left for WT and all their lies. We know the truth as it is. Thanks to Robert and his site.

    Blessings to all my dear brothers.

    Yuri

    • And sisters!!

      • True Witness

        Of course I also wish all the blessings also to our dear sisters here.

    • Beverly kenyon

      So true Yuri. Keep your chin up. Greetings to you and your wife. Love the new user name and it fits.

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