The One Who Endures to the End Will Be Saved

//The One Who Endures to the End Will Be Saved

Tuesday, August 16

Clothe yourselves with the tender affections of compassion.Col. 3:12.

“The tender affections of compassion” are part of the new personality that all Christians are expected to put on.  How can you cultivate tender feelings for others? Open your heart wide.  Listen carefully when someone shares his feelings and concerns. Use your imagination and ask yourself: ‘If I were in his situation, how would I feel? What would I need?’  Do you know of a widow who needs help with repairs on her home? Is there an elderly Christian who needs transportation to get to the meetings, to go out in the ministry, or to go to the doctor? Even a small act of kindness can make a big difference in the life of a fellow worshipper in need. Above all, we can show tender concern for others by having a full share in the ministry. There is no greater way to make a difference in the lives of honesthearted ones!

COMMENTARY

It is interesting that the apostle exhorted Christians to “clothe” ourselves with love, or as it is worded in Colossians, with “tender affections of compassion.”

Jehovah first clothed the naked Adam and Eve with long animal skins as they were being escorted out of paradise into the harsh world of thorns and briars.

Interestingly, Revelation uses the analogy of nakedness in the context of Christ coming to inspect his congregation, saying: “‘Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one who stays awake and keeps his outer garments, so that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.’  And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon.”

It has been pointed out that the cloth that makes up our clothing is made of many small threads that are stitched together. Similarly, it is the seemingly small things that matter. Many little acts of kindness and compassion over a long period that make a difference in the lives of those with whom we interact.

The reality, though, is that the little things maybe lacking. Thoughtfulness and consideration may be wanting.

Jehovah foretold that the love of many will grow cold because of the increasing of lawlessness. Was Christ foretelling that people of the world will allow their love to grow cold? That is not reasonable. In context Jesus was speaking of the tribulation that would come upon his followers as a result of their being betrayed and persecuted by their brothers. Here is what Jesus said: “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.”

While it is obvious that the tribulation that Jesus spoke of has not begun, hence the love of the greater number has not grown cold —yet, there is a trend in that direction.

Of course, Jehovah’s Witnesses are convinced that the brotherhood enjoys unbreakable unity. But, just hypothetically, what would happen to organizational unity if it became undeniably obvious that the Watchtower had misled Jehovah’s Witnesses on the vital matter of the nature and timing of Christ’s return? Given the fact that over the years many of Jehovah’s Witnesses have stumbled over relatively trivial errors and inconsequential “adjustments,” the impact of the realization of gross deception would be considerable. Or as Jesus said, “many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another.”

Unfortunately this is not a hypothetical scenario. The fact is, the Watchtower has misled Jehovah’s Witnesses. Although many are blissfully unaware of the deception at the present moment, when nations and kingdoms go to war in the very near future and when all the other things Jehovah’s Witnesses have been led to believe have already fulfilled prophecy and cannot happen in the future actually happen, then their faith will be shaken as never before.

As it stands Jehovah’s Witnesses have been conditioned to believe that the Watchtower is Jehovah’s mouthpiece. But if that is the case, how could it be so wrong? That will be the test. That is why Christ stressed the importance of staying awake.

My advice is, follow the Watchtower’s advice as expressed in the day’s text. Make the bonds with fellow believers strong by doing the little things. The stronger the bonds of love the less likely it will be that they will be broken when others betray and hate one another.

And as the text exhorts, “use your imagination.” Think of the shock that the trusting brothers and sisters are going to experience when war engulfs the world and the witnessing work suddenly ceases, when terror and global pandemics and food shortages claim hundreds of millions of souls. Who are they going to turn to? The faithful and discreet slave is not going to have any answers then, even as Jehovah foretold in Isaiah: “Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.” Isaiah 29

But Paul assured us that love never fails. By being there now and strengthening the bonds of love with others you may have freeness of speech in the future and be instrumental in imparting courage, faith and hope during that time of distress, when the love of the greater number grows cold. By doing so you may strengthen others to endure to the end so as to be saved. 

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2017-03-18T11:41:20+00:00 August 16th, 2016|Commentary|95 Comments
  • Beautifully stated !!

  • Leonard k

    very uplifting and faith strengthening article! this is exactly what I needed to read today thank you brother Robert.

  • ELiJAHxSEVEN

    This is why I appreciate Brother King’s encouragement to stay with the brothers and sisters as much we can by attending meetings and fellowship…we should never become so “cold” in our love for others that we abandon them because we are bitter towards the attitudes, behavior, and false teachings emanating from the evil slave….we are NOT apostates!
    What a great article! Thanks Brother King!

    • Joel Sherrod

      Here here! We are NOT apostates!

  • Joel Sherrod

    As the Scripture says: “Love is the perfect bond of Union.”

    Excellent commentary Brother King, as usual.

    There is a difference, however, between “unity” and “uniformity.” One is of God’s spirit, the other is of human effort—sometime good, many times bad.

    For years the Watchtower Society has tried to create a so-called ‘spiritual paradise’ among its members. But how? In what manner? Has their often acclaimed unity come from real genuine Christian love? Or has much of it been achieved through a kind of forced “uniformity.” Of course we all know the answer.

    But true unity does not necessarily require that everyone think EXACTLY the same thoughts . . . do EXACTLY the same thing . . . in EXACTLY the same manner. No. True Christian unity allows for variety, for variance, for ‘individual’ expressions” all leading to the same established Goal.

    True brotherly love, then, is an individual private expression; outwardly shown by sometimes small acts of kindness that come from the heart of the person, not Organizational coersion.

    Thanks Robert for such a timely and warm commentary.

    • LW

      Agreed. But you know who prescribes everyone thinking exactly the same way and in the same manner? The New World Order, for in their vision unity does require uniformity.

      But at least we’re on the correct path 😉

    • Man from the lions pit

      Well said Joel!

  • ewatchman

    There are so many comments on posts now it is hard to follow, so I decided to set up a forum. I am still familiarizing myself with it but feel free to register if you wish to post comments. https://e-watchman.com/forum/

    • Burt Reynolds

      I can’t get logged in, registered Robert. Ooh-err, this can only mean one of two things…..might have to spend three days in the whale’s gut as penance…..

      • ewatchman

        Sorry. It might take awhile for me to get the bugs worked out. Tell me Burt, did you receive and email confirmation when you registered? Try requesting a password change and see if you get an automated response.

        • Burt Reynolds

          Hello Robert, I have tried re-establishing the password, but it will not accept me. If I trie to log on it simply tells me the actin has not been found. All I got on my email was a shipping update from Amazon. Close, but not close enough.

        • Daisy

          Robert…I’m having exactly the same problems as Burt…help!

          • ewatchman

            Hi Daisy. Sorry for the hassle. I changed the settings to require approval from me, so that way I’ll at least get an email notification when someone wishes to register. Try and register again and let’s see what happens. I suspect it might be a problem trying to register from a smart phone.

            • Burt Reynolds

              I’m not using a smart phone Robert, I’m using an iPad.

            • ewatchman

              Okay, I think we got it sorted out

          • ewatchman

            Daisy, are you trying to log into the forum using your Disqus account? If so, that won’t work. You have to set up an account with the forum. It is a whole separate deal than the Disqus comments platform.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Daisy have you been able to join the club yet? If you have, what did you do?

            • Daisy

              No. I’m sorry Burt but I can’t get past that human verification letter & number code but then that doesn’t surprise me you know I can’t work anything out I don’t ‘get’ the vocabulary, it just doesn’t compute in my head so I’m going to wait till RK gets dem bugs worked out & try again… Thumbs up sign if I had one…x

          • Burt Reynolds

            Daisy, I have finally figured out what Robert meant. Dont try to join on the watchman site, go to your google page, type in e-watchman.com/forum/ and fill in the form as before, don’t forget to agree the conditions in the little box at the bottom of the form ( the ‘condition’ is we have to send Robert a pizza on a weekly basis), and then you will have to wait until Robert accepts your email. Check your email. How are you anyway? You seem to have been quiet of late. I hope your treatment is not too onerous and that you are coping okay. X

            • Daisy

              Thanks so much Burt. I’ll ask a neighbour today to help me & hopefully will join you on the forum. X

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Daisy, all quiet on the western front I see! I hope you are not withdrawing into a shell…? Easy to do all things considered. You have to get out here and fight the isolation and not give into letting the world of worries surround you. How is your hubby? Is he still in hospital? I hope he is getting better and will be home with you soon. Have you got some help from social services? They may be of use. Why not phone and ask? Still remembering you in my prayers. I have a lot of prayer to catch up on, I can tell you. Keep in touch with us all. A lot of friends out here are concerned for you, namely all of us. X

            • Daisy

              Hello Burt…fear not, all is well..no time for lunch in Paris by Eurostar this week…just too many hospital appointments to keep me busy.
              Waiting for social services & help to come together. In the meantime i manage..then flop into bed…then manage…then flop. I can flop contentedly quite easily these days having accepted whatever will be.
              Hubz is home now, still under observation…
              Just want to say how my heart is full of you all & that my prayers are full of you all & how lovely we have a little family joining us Tabitha #save Kevin & daughter. ..love you all & I’m ok really I am dear Burt x

            • My dearest Daisy,
              I emailed you a few songs for your enjoyment, put on some earphones and pump up the volume. Hope that they both bring you comfort and Goosebumps.
              Hugs ❤?

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Hi Daisy, I noticed you gave me a thumbs up after I talked with Joedman last, that gave me a chuckle or two and I know it took a big heart to do that thank you I appreciate it. I would also like to apologize for not being a social butterfly like some around here, I’m more stone faced kind of like Clint Eastwood, I don’t smile or laugh as often as I should maybe it’s the “tales of misery” that I’ve been through, I know everyone has a story to tell and I hope the best for you going forward through your trials. I would send you some songs too, but I doubt you would like my style of music, not as uplifting so I’ll let the e-watchman poster boy take care of that. Hang in there okay?

            • Daisy

              Yes. Ok other Ed, I’m hanging in there hahaha.
              The thumbs up was more to do with you saying ‘if I ever decide to go back’ bc to me that means you’re thinking on it & stating it..
              Next step….just do it?

              Joe dman is one lovely brother, not unlike any brother here. ..and especially like my sweetie JS hahaha. He just has a way of expressing in words, the way Jesus did in his actions, his love of the ‘weaker’ sex…be they young or old.

              I’m a ‘jazzer’ at heart John Coltrane, Bill Evans…but I really appreciated listening to the music sent to me through JS’s ears, didnt need earphones I would have gone deaf, such lusty
              lungs these young folk have.

              Im heading for the kh tomorrow as I’m feeling pretty well & I’ve deliberately just read through the wt…y’see I reckon if I relax & go with the flow I will enjoy being in the company of my brothers much more than looking for anything negative…bc I did that when I first came across here & it didn’t auger well for me, just made me irritable & alienated some folk. Figured its not the right time. This is my story. This is as it is for me & we are all different of course but i m trying hard to accept things as they are & not how I want things to be. I’m patient enough to realise that how I want things to be will soon occur, when Christ takes up his long sword & turns his attention towards the earth. ..
              Nice talking to you. Are you in uk? Dman has my e mail if you pluck up the courage to send me some music… And thanks for your reply 😉

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Thanks for the reply Daisy, I can’t go back just yet because some of the elders want to cut my head off and make a lamp post out of it. I think it would be illogical to return just so my head could be slammed into the cement to fulfill the scriptures so to speak, that’s about how ugly it got, so In my best interest I decided to split. Makes sense don’t t? so there are exemptions to put it bluntly.
              I know Burt will be by your side if you have any problems, big teddy bear that he is, and if you come up short in any way say something were here to help, even us dirt bags at the bottom of the pit who don’t attend meetings are sitting at idle okay!.

        • Joel Sherrod

          Hi Brother King. I registered and logged in; everything is fine. I did receive an email confirmation.

      • Joel Sherrod

        Lol! Very good Burt!

    • Burt Reynolds

      My specified action still cannot be found Robert. I am a foolish virgin and have arrived after the door has been shut.

  • LW

    Definitely agree it is easy to miss the little things. We do our best.
    Those that may be viewed as puny or etc spiritually may very well end up being the ones to guide the rest through the coming night.

    I used to have long discussions with a colleague. While he wasn’t a JW, we agreed on many different points as to what was happening in the world and how people are generally asleep. And then he said, with regards to the end, “People will look for a savior, but the one that they think will save them will not be who they expect.”
    Hopefully that drives home the point of what we all should be striving to do. Because believe you me, when all is said and done, the revelations that are going to be revealed will shock you to your core.

    • Joel Sherrod

      So true.

    • I agree but the one scripture that continues to stand out to me says so very much I often wonder why the watchtower G/B does not see it or do they do see it and will not admit it because to do so they would only tell the truth.

      1 Peter 4:17

      17 For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the outcome be for those who are not obedient to the good news of God?

      • LW

        Perhaps they have seen it, but maybe the time to fully reveal this is not yet …

        • I agree we well know about the operation of error and what a great test of faith it will be when the watchtower goes down.

          • LW

            Yep. It’s almost like a movie … JWs have been following along and then *insert big event happens, who will they follow?
            You know, I could be way off, but its like some movies I watch nowadays, it’s almost like a facsimile of what scenarios or situations that could be faced.

            • it will be very interesting though to think maybe one day if we make it through the great tribulation we will be witnesses to all the things Jehovah foretold we can carry on the sanctification of Jehovah’s name.

  • LW

    I like the illustration at the top of this article. I would like to know, where is it from?

  • Ed(the other Ed)

    Well okay, I will use my imagination.
    Who are they going to turn to? I’m imagining that Jesus has all his bases covered through the transition phase with the use of his powerful angels. In the mean time I think I will continue to wing it in the wilderness, I can’t see trying to strengthen the bonds of love if it happens to be virtually impossible, so I will patiently wait for the big shake up, and thanks for clarifying the meaning behind the scripture “The one that endures to the end is saved”. I knew this didn’t apply to meeting attendance how absurd.

    • ELiJAHxSEVEN

      I must admit that I have felt exactly like you in “winging it” in the wilderness..lol…Its so frustrating to be a 1 eyed man in the land of the blind as they scurry about in spiritual darkness….but, Jehovah gives sight to the blind, shines light upon the darkness and never abandons those who love Him…I realized that with my 1 eye, I can keep close watch on my spiritual brothers and sisters, but the further that I get away from Jehovah’s people, the harder it is for me to see, and eventually as I get more distance, I too become blind…Love motivates me to stay there all through the night, til Jehovah flips the light on for the big early morning surprise wake up call!

      • LW

        You can either have one of two awakenings: A gentle awakening or a rude awakening. Either way, one will be woken up

    • Joe Dman

      I’ve just caught up on the recent activities taking place here. I’ve emailed Thinking and gave her my support. Her and I have a lot in common: our views and the mistakes we’ve made. Her recent comment to Joel was right on. Her decision is what’s best for her. We both agree (not that you need our approval) that it’s good for some of you to be pillars on this site, to welcome new ones and help them regain their spiritual balance. In fact it is no less imperative that some of you be here just for that purpose. We are all vessels used for different purposes. What might be right for one may not be for the other. I don’t make it to the site as often since my work location has changed, but its good to be able to come here and see the same names.
      My attendance at the meetings has suffered as well, but after reading Thinking’s reasoning, it has renewed my determination to attend meetings so that I won’t be some stranger coming in to explain things when it all goes down. That’s what’s right for me. Where you are Ed, it may be that they will listen to you better than someone they see all the time. Who knows. It seems when I quit trying to figure it all out and just pray and study, things are presented that alleviates all my worries. What we have isn’t a gift that God wants us to keep hidden, this gift is something like Robert mentioned, was hidden right in front of all of us. We are privileged to find it. So like the man who hides the treasure and goes off to sell everything in order to purchase the field with the treasure, that field could be the congregation, and the purchase price is the trust we gain just by showing up. Afterward, in Jehovah’s due time we can show the treasure to others and they will be relieved to know they haven’t been abandoned.
      Robert has helped us to identify some of the stumbling blocks, but they have been put on that narrow cramped path that all those brothers and sisters are walking on. The path that we all must take to get to the Kingdom. They are about to hit a big one. A person who starts to explain it with the confidence that Jesus had when he spoke with authority, will likely have a more receptive audience. Who else will be able to explain to them with clarity and confidence the things befalling them?

      • Ed(the other Ed)

        Hi Joe, I’m not at the point where I believe roughly 20 people on a website are somehow going to fulfill some kind of prophecy and save 7million misled JW’s, this seems to be what your suggesting. Nor do I believe that Judgment Day is some kind of an IQ test. I believe it’s much simpler then that but for some reason there seems to be a contradiction taking place. Does Jesus have a plan or are the people here going to save all the lost sheep? I’m going to put my trust in him for now on this issue, this what I meant when I said I thinks he has all his bases covered, its out of our hands at the moment and its been discussed here in many of Roberts writings which makes me wonder why he asked the similar question that you have, implying that if we don’t step in and do something then they’re all toast. In my opinion, if everyone here who attends meetings thinks they can find one person and make a difference then go for it. If the meetings are working for a person then stay if they don’t then leave, quite simple actually. But you said it yourself Joe, “in Jehovahs due time” we can show the treasure to others. Maybe it’s not quite time yet, so for now I’m going to chill in the wilderness like John the Baptist and if I ever decide to go back I’m not going to fake it and pretend I’m a WT puppet, I’m going to shoot straight and just come out and say, “HI my name is Ed, I’m one of Robert Kings bible students”. They all know who he is in my area that should make some ears wiggle.

        • Joe Dman

          Hey Ed, I see your point. I don’t think its going to be up to those here to save them all either. And as I alluded to, I’m probably going to just stop trying to figure it all out. I have close friends in the congregations that I would hope I could help to see what will be going on, but if I didn’t say anything to them, then there’s a lot of stones around that would cry out. And I suppose if it was God’s will outlined in a prophecy that we be there, it would probably be a little more clearer. But no, as I see it, it’s impossible for us few to save the whole lot, I realize that. My hope is that like you said, we may hope to be able to help even just one person. We’ve pretty much have it all here, and more: The truth, encouragement, shepherding. It is a place to fulfill Jesus command to meet together. I don’t mean to imply that we all must be at the meetings, that’s just where like minded people gather who are being mislead. If a person is acceptable to Jehovah, like you said, he’s got it covered, and if one of us are to be involved in helping that one, then that’s the way it will be. When I don’t make a meeting or turn in time, it doesn’t seem to bother my conscience at all. People who are bothered by missing them are probably guilted in to thinking that way by the leaders and they contribute it to a conscience thing. I didn’t go to the convention and I was prepared to tell anyone who asked, that I just didn’t feel like it, it’s too taxing.
          About the judgment day being an IQ test, if you’re talking about intelligence in general, I fail. I’m as simple as they come. I’m fortunate to have the business I’ve got. It’s probably the easiest job in the world but it does take common sense.
          If I come across as guilt tripping anyone for not going to the meetings, I apologize.

          • LW

            Exactly. You’ve learned or we’ve learned the essential aspects already so…the only thing left is just to be ready.

          • Ed(the other Ed)

            It’s all good Joe, No guilt trip here brother.

        • Unfortunately nobody is going to save anybody. Only Jesus can save us, now he may use us to forfill a purpose. The 20 people who mostly comment might be able to help 20 congratulations when things go terribly wrong for the leadership of the WTBTS. Robert’s goal is to reach 1% and there are thousands of people who visit the site and not comment. Jehovah got this covered, not for any of us to figure this out. And I’m sure Dman feels the same way.

          • Ed(the other Ed)

            Hi Joe(the other Joe),your right about the lurkers, maybe the numbers here would start to compound and really take off, then we would know for sure that something is up.

            • Hahaha, there are a lot of Joe’s, Ed’s and Kevin’s on here!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Ive thought that for a long time. Best wishes, Joed Kev.

    • I just started my studies and I have been making all the meetings and from what I remember back in the 80s there have been huge changes I think more now so then ever but along with that I can also just see some of the brothers and sisters are in pain. you can look in there eyes and see it on there faces and it tugs at my heart because I want so much to share what I have learned all I want to do is tell them everything will be ok to have faith and endure but how can I do that with out jeopardizing my position. granted I am not baptized and I cant be DFSPD but I do not want to scare people away from my self ether. I find my self heavy in thought about reaching those who are in pain because there pain is my pain. I can see I have a very long way to go and I must admit there are times I think to my self should I just give up and stick to my on line studies am I really going to be able to reach any one I just don’t know but the one thing that keeps me going is what the scriptures say and it strengthens me and makes me feel renewed.

      Matthew 25:1-46

      In reply his master said to him: ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you should have deposited my money* with the bankers, and on my coming I would have received it back with interest.

      Galatians 6:6

      6 Moreover, let anyone who is being taught the word share in all good things with the one who gives such teaching.

      Hebrews 13:16

      16 Moreover, do not forget to do good and to share what you have with others, for God is well-pleased with such sacrifices.

      Deuteronomy 15:7

      Isaiah 6:8

      8 Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

      7 “If one of your brothers becomes poor among you in one of your cities of the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, do not harden your heart or be tightfisted toward your poor brother.

      • LW

        Yes, and so you can imagine how the Creator must feel…he does not want any to be destroyed. We’ve seen ravages afflicting God’s people since the beginning of time until now. The way will soon become clear. May we all see it and pass through, whether our future is in heaven or on earth.

        • of course Jehovah wants to save as many as he can and I can just imagine how Jehovah feels but getting some jws to listen can be like beating your head against a wall. it really is enough to make a person feel like giving up because they feel it is impossible BUT here’s another great scripture that keeps me going.

          Matthew 19:26

          26 Looking at them intently, Jesus said to them: “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

          • Joel

            How very true Leonard.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            There is one thing that is impossible for Jehovah to do.
            But I’m not going to tell you, let’s see who can figure it out / get the answer.

            • Jehovah can not lie but he may allow a lie to be told. Jehovah does not cause any ones suffering although he may allow one to suffer those are two things I know off the top of my head.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              It’s impossible for GOD to lie. Hebrews 6:18.

              OK you got the first answer, two more to go!. Happy searching….

            • Daisy

              Jehovah can’t stop loving us? (Jer 31)

            • Bklyn Kevin

              That’s true Jehovah will not stop loving those who love him however Jehovah will stop loving those who stop loving him . Example: Judas Iscariot was loved by Jehovah until Judas had betrayed Jesus.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Actually Leonard you got two out of the three correct but still one more answer to go.
              So here’s what I’m going to do, to tomorrow I’m going to open a room concerning this topic in the new forum Robert created and we can discuss this subject in more detail.

            • sounds good to me.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Lie, grieve the spirit, revoke his word, be unfaithful, or in other words, not fulfil his word or not carry out his promises, to abandon his people, ergo, they abandon him. I seem to recall from my distant past studies that there are seven, not unsurprisingly, attributes of Jehovah in this vein, but my memory fails me. You would think of one trying to be faithful and study Jehovah’s ways, that such would remain in the forefront of ones mind, but no, I am but dust upon the scales….sigh….

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Lie is correct.
              However tomorrow I’m going to open a room concerning this topic in the new forum Robert created and we can discuss this subject in more detail.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Great, that’s kind of you. I’ll enjoy that.

      • Ed(the other Ed)

        The biggest challenge is keeping your mouth shut , I hope your better at it then me.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    the one who preaches about Jehovah nad have friendship with UN is an apostate. Well we are not apostates i agree with you ELiJAHxSEVEN and
    Joel Sherrod

    • Joel Sherrod

      Nice!

    • Joel Sherrod

      You

  • Sharon

    with many I know it wont make a bit of difference.being raised in the truth,and now knowing the real truth,i had the opportunity to finally speak with my fleshly sister,her first reaction was the same as peters,WHO WILL WE GO AWAY TO….IS THERE ANOTHER RELIGION THAT TEACHES THE TRUTH?

    • Joel Sherrod

      Do you mean at one point you were disfellowshipped, that’s why you “finally” got to speak with your sister?

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    Hello virtual congregation and friends, I need a little help and at the very least your prayers. I got a message from one of my elders that they want to meet with me again. (This will be the 3rd shepherding call in 7 months….and stemming from my first visit with the CO because I was concerned over the Royal commission and the UN relationship AND I was naive and very trusting at THAT time. Now I’m definitely more cautious, but I can’t hide my truth “under a lamp stand.”)

    I asked if there is anything specific they want to discuss with me (my poor husband doesn’t really care about any of this….but he quietly supports me) and the elder said they want to discuss “joy and peace and Matthew 25:40 in relation to the GB.”

    I don’t even know these men (GB) personally, so how can I show them love? I apply that scripture personally with my brothers and sisters. Ug, it’s so weird, but at the same time I’m not surprised. For years when my marriage was strained (we’re good now) and my meeting attendance was spotty (again, I’m basically 100% now) we couldn’t get a shepherding call….and NOW they’re interested in me?

    Part of me wishes I’d used an alias, but it’s too late for that, PLUS I do not regret anything I’ve said and if I need correcting, I’m happy to reexamine my words and clean up any mess.

    Again, Matthew 25:40. I love that scripture….it goes exactly with the commentary for this text….building that strong cloth with many little stitches of love in action.

    • sally

      Oh my goodness me! I know I can’t help you much Alexandra but I will pray to Jehovah in your behalf after I have written this message, to help guide you and give you wisdom to manage this. It seems then, that your elders do actually visit this site? So have access to the Daily Texts and Podcasts and everything else as we do, but clearly cannot see what is in front of them? I can’t fathom that out, its so clear and obvious if you take the time to study it. Even for a study student such as myself. I guess they are reading but not acknowledging that maybe things are not what they have been taught? Let’s hope that one day soon they do.

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        My gut says they don’t know about this site. And if they do….I hope they are enjoying it as much as I have. I’m not terribly worried about my upcoming meeting, but if they want me to declare my allegiance to the GB, my conscience will not allow me to do that.

      • Burt Reynolds

        i expect it was the sister Ali spoke about some while back is trying to ‘help’ her by repeating what she said to the elders.

    • 1914for100Alex

      Did you go out of your way to help someone in the congregation recently? Would they want to recognize you for that maybe? That’s, as you know, what that scripture is all about. If they’d said Matthew 25:41, it would be a different story! My advice is no matter what it is, Jehovah has your back. Be strong and ready to defend your position if it turns out they know you’re here. Worst case scenario, you can always read what’s here without commenting. Unless, of course, the GB has a partnership with the NSA that it’s not telling anyone about… 😉

      • Burt Reynolds

        Ali could always change her name to Rose, as in, with regard to Shakespeare, ‘a rose by any other name would smell as sweet…’

    • Joe Dman

      Rut Ro. At least they’re paying attention to you now. I’ve been thinking about when I get to go talk to them, I want to tell them that they haven’t been there for 15 years, never seen nor heard from anyone. It wasn’t any of them who performed a shepherding call on me. I know the only way to the truth is through God’s earthly organization and I didn’t come back in, without their shepherding I might ad, to subvert anyone’s faith. The fact that I’m back at the meetings is because of my love for Jehovah and for these brothers and sisters, not because I need any shepherding. They gave up their right to shepherd me a long time ago. The shepherd that brought me back obviously has a commission to bring back lost sheep because he has done so with hundreds of others like me, who aren’t bringing in a foreign message but have returned because it is a command from Jesus to love our neighbors and especially those related to us in the “truth”. I’m here to encourage them even if in a small way, to confirm their faith. So now they want to start shepherding? I already told one elder that my faith in Jehovah was restored in no small part by a df’d brother who was told by Bethel that anything God shows him will be shown to them if it is true. OK, I’m getting worked up here thinking about it. Sorry I haven’t anything to say that will help you in your situation. If they don’t df you then the fact that you are bringing this stuff to their attention should help any Christlike ones among them to recall what the the little trouble maker said and they will then have to exercise humility and listen to your words. That will probably be a big test for them to have to listen to the average Joe explain the scriptures to them for once. It is going to be very difficult for them if they have to. There’s so much that could be said to them but they won’t listen.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello Joe, I get the same attitude from my sister. She thinks I’m mentally ill (that advice from the governing body sunk in well didn’t it!) for stating what the bible says and in any event, who am I as her little brother to tell her, of 50 years a JW, what the truth is. Well, she is right about one thing, I often do wonder who I am.

    • Burt Reynolds

      This must be a testing time for you Ali. It becomes more plain to me every day that we need to attend the meetings if we are able to do so, but as you point out, there is a dividing line between the will of the watchtower and the truth of the bible. Why don’t you write to Robert via email and ask for his experience about how he dealt wth this seeming conflict. I was bullied out of my congregation and so your experience is different from mine. I’m sure Robert can give you good balance on this and I am not very good at this sort of balancing act as I tend to call a spade a spade and it’s got me into trouble on many occasion. Whatever course you take, I will be happy to support you in prayer as requested. I think the touchstone to all this is that you are, we are, Jehovah’s witnesses. So remain the witness of Jehovah as you see fit. All the best.

    • ewatchman

      I would advise you to say as little as possible. Le them do the talking.

      But if they want to talk about Matthew 25:40 you might ask them, when have the GB ever gone hungry, thirsty or naked, or been strangers or sick or imprisoned? They have the best health coverage, better than the average JW. They are chauffeured around in luxury automobiles and fly first class. They appear to be very well dressed. They are treated like princes everywhere they go in the JW community. None of them have even been imprisoned for their faith. So, how does the illustration apply to them?

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        Thank you!

    • Daisy

      Ali… Dear girl..

      If I were you , I’d enter the get -together completely & totally relaxed knowing that you are not alone for one second…angels & all of us here are with you in our prayers… but… you will bear in mind that you are face- to- face with crafty tongues…so not a lot of sincerity behind the ‘sheperding’ call.

      All Robert’s pointers are brilliant of course, I’m going to remember them but also if you are firmly put on the spot & asked point blank to express your feelings re the gb you could say that you believe that Christ is the head of the congregation… That you believe that he has appointed a fds to feed the domestics the truth & any truth coming from the gb you will (happily) accept…but only if you’re pushed into a corner. Am I smelling a rat! Well…. Just fancy that!

      You go girl…much love Ali from Daisy x

    • Kevin b

      We all know that the information here has Jehovah backing and the scriptures have never made as much since as they do with Roberts input. Yet, If you were to bring this website to the attention of the elders, CO’s and the higher ups, they would quickly inform you that this is an apostate website. In this Information Age, in a since the world has gotten smaller. We all communicate easily and quickly in the privacy of our homes. We encourage others, and receive encouragement daily. I’m sure that it’s someone’s job at the headquarters to report what’s going on in the world of apostate websites. It’s very easy to google anything and find out a lot of information very quickly. For example if you were to google Kevin B, good luck finding out who I really am. A certain amount of anonymity is beneficial if we are actively attending the meetings, which I do. I don’t worrie about my elders finding out I’m on here. Even if they get crafty and Google my real name, the watchmans post or any other websites won’t pop up. If your elders were to suspect somethings up with you, due to your resent questions and comments in service, and googled your name, you may be surprised in the results. I’m not trying to scare you, but you need to know what you may be dealing with. Who needs the extra drama. Not me. Last time they wanted to visit me I simply said no, it was not Necessary, that was over a year ago. I’m flying under the radar. Another thing, the brothers have no business talking to you about a sheparding call if your husband is a JW, which I believe you have said he was. They should of talked with him. Robert is correct, say as little as possible. Your husband needs to have your back 100%. I admire your boldness sister, but you may want to play it safe. I’m not trying to tell you what to do, I’m just worried about you. Let us know what happens.

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        I’ll keep you posted. Thanks for the cautionary words.

        • Daisy

          Ali, the psalmist states “the first to speak in court sounds right – until the cross -examination begins ” so , good is the advise to say little & let them do the talking ( psalm 18). One short sentence at a time from you will be sufficient as the mind controlled elders will revolt against the biblical truths…:)

    • Sam

      it seems they are only interested when we step on their toes. The elders showed no interest in me throughout the 2 years I was struggling through health issues, even when I was still pioneering during that time their only concern was me not getting my time in. But throughout my illness no elder sat down with me until I showed up with facial hair lol only then did they have some verses for me…no wait, actually no scriptures at all lol. I hope things go ok, Roberts advice on keeping your head down will get you through it. I’ll be praying for you

      • Sam you’re a inspiration for all going through trying situations and coming out on top !

        • Sam

          You’re a good brother Joseph. Always looking impart strength to the rest of us. Thanks for the kind words

      • Kevin b

        Maybe you should share the new light on breads with those elders from the new September study issue.

        • Sam

          I only read it briefly…but I do know that when the c.o had his visit, he spoke with the elders about beards and said to them that it could be seen as imitating a
          trend of the world (an argument so flawed i dont know where to start) Well, the org doesn’t seem bothered about imitating the world with their showy display. And if we are worried about following trivial trends then sisters shouldnt be allowed to dye their hair by that reasoning. straining the knat.

    • Tabitha

      All the best with your special visit Alexandra. Make sure you make a big plate of fancy cupcakes and have a real party! Thank them profusely for their loving attention and care and perhaps they could come again soon! And don’t forget what’s Jesus said at Matt 10:16. Will be thinking of you!

  • LW

    Looking forward to the commentary on the text for Thursday 😉

  • this is interesting but this is what I have saying all along. it would ether be Clinton or Obama would seek a third term.

    http://nbc.com.co/obama-announces-third-term-presidential-run/

  • It is definitely a challenge under present conditions to suffer and yet keep our spiritual balance. Sadly, many have given up and left, no longer believing that God has a people for his name, because of the presence of so much pain and distress on account of the foretold man of lawlessness. (Mal. 3:16-18; Acts 15:14) And as if that were not bad enough, in some congregations brothers are actually expelled simply for voicing their concerns, complaints, or doubts; having lost faith in the body of governors that has been controlling the organization throughout these many years. A great number of disillusioned former Witnesses are now expressing their anguish and frustration on the internet, in particular on the various forums that have sprung up on account of all this.
    Jesus foretold, regarding the time of the end, that “because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.” (Matt. 10:22; 24:13) He was pointing to conditions that would become evident within God’s household. The righteous among them needed to endure hardship and not be stumbled, until such time arrived for God to remove from their midst the wicked. He promised: “That is how it will be in the conclusion of the system of things: the angels will go out and separate [from his kingdom] the wicked from among the righteous.” —Matt. 13:41, 49,50; 24:12,13, 25; John 16:1; Gal. 5:14,15; James 4:1-3

    • LW

      It is near impossible that even for the most active and stout JWs, that not any of them do not have a vice to contend with. there

      will be much to straighten out among us all.

  • LW

    At our meeting tonight, as we were considering the example of Peter, I mentioned in my comment that the transfiguration vision impressed upon Peter, just as Jesus had to endure all trials to receive his reward so Peter saw that he had to endure all manner of trials to achieve his heavenly hope. I think that was a vital facet to his example.

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