He Is an Unwise Child

//He Is an Unwise Child

Tuesday, September 13

Drawing near to God is good for me.Ps. 73:28.

If we ponder over what the Bible says about Jehovah’s interactions with his faithful servants of the past, we will learn countless wonderful things about our God. Thus we will come to know Jehovah very well and come to love him deeply. As a result, we will be able to draw closer to him. We should never draw away from Jehovah. If we have allowed some distance to develop between him and us, we should act in accord with Hosea 12:6, which states: “Return to your God, maintain loyal love and justice, and always hope in your God.” Let us, then, draw closer and closer to Jehovah by reflecting appreciatively on the ransom and by diligently studying his Word, the Bible. May all of us continue to learn new things about Jehovah and come to appreciate even more the many reasons to love him. And may Jehovah draw ever closer to us now and throughout all eternity!

COMMENTARY

The daily text provides a handy hyperlink to Hosea 12:6, which states: “So return to your God, maintain loyal love and justice, and always hope in your God.”

Contrary to the Watchtower’s implied application of the verse, a quick perusal of the surrounding context indicates that Jehovah’s exhortation to return to him is not directed to any straying individuals, but rather, to an entire nation —to Ephraim, Israel.

The entire book of Hosea is addressed to God’s nation, whom he redeemed from Egypt, but who became unfaithful to him. Rather than ancient history, though, the prophecy of Hosea is earmarked for fulfillment in the final part of the days, as stated at Hosea 3:5: “Afterward the people of Israel will come back and look for Jehovah their God and for David their king, and they will come trembling to Jehovah and to his goodness in the final part of the days.” (The prophecy of Hosea is considered in more detail in Jehovah Himself Has Become King.)

Since the final part of the days (Also known as the time of the end, last days and conclusion) has not begun yet, the prophecy pertaining to “Israel” coming back and looking for Jehovah is to occur in the future.

The very fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses have been deluded into imagining that “David their king” began ruling the world in 1914 is the reason why Hosea 12:7 says of Ephraim: “But in the hand of the tradesman are deceptive scales; he loves to defraud. Ephraim keeps saying, ‘Indeed, I have become rich; I have found wealth. And in all my toil, they will not find anything wrong or sinful.’”

Yes, the Watchtower has “deceptive scales.” It loves to tip the scales to favor itself and defraud the lowly, by tilting the Scriptures to present itself in the best light and deflecting any negatives so as to apply to Christendom; thereby elevating the organization to the right hand of God. 

Has Bethel become rich? Indeed it has. As a reflection of its amassed wealth the organization just recently cashed out its prized Brooklyn properties for around a billion dollars. By year’s end it will be settled in its brand new, luxurious headquarters complex in the New York countryside, built by the sweat of thousands of volunteers.

And true to prophecy, in all its storied history Bethel has never once admitted an error or wrongdoing or said they ‘we are sorry’ for anything. That is truly amazing when you take into consideration the many flip-flops, false dates, the sexual abuse of 10’s of thousands of children and the stumbling of untold numbers of Jehovah’s Witnesses and interested persons. Even when publicly exposed as having been in a secret political partnership with the United Nations the Watchtower passed it off as mere allegations by opposers, although they quickly dissolved their NGO affiliation.

How will it end? Hosea 13:8-9 answers: “A wild beast of the field will tear them to pieces. It will destroy you, O Israel, because you turned against me, against your helper.”

The desolation of Christianity is outlined in numerous prophecies. Satan’s political wild beast is destined to fulfill the prophecies in the future, when it brings to ruin the holy ones and tramples them underfoot. That will necessitate that God perform a miracle in order that his purpose may be accomplished. Hosea continues: “The error of Ephraim is wrapped up; his sin is stored up.The pangs of childbirth will come for him. But he is an unwise child; he does not present himself when it is time to be born. From the power of the Grave I will redeem them; from death I will recover them. Where are your stings, O Death? Where is your destructiveness, O Grave? Compassion will be concealed from my eyes.”

At I Corinthians 15:55 Paul quoted Hosea and applied it to the first resurrection. That confirms that the birth pangs that come upon his nation coincides with the birth of the Kingdom, as symbolized in the 12th chapter of Revelation. Since Jehovah’s Witnesses are laboring under the delusion that the Kingdom has already been born no sons of the Kingdom will present themselves when it is time to be born. Hence, the exhortation to “return to your God” will apply most aptly to them during the hour of darkness.

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2017-03-18T11:48:31+00:00 September 13th, 2016|Commentary|58 Comments
  • Shelley.

    At least they say draw close to Jehovah by meditating on the ransom and diligently studying the bible rather than studying the org publications.Wait I thought that studying the bible alone without the publications would cause us to return to Christendom’s way of thinking.Im confused.
    Tomorrow I have my weekly bible study and I will be asked ,Am I thoroughly convinced that what the bible and the faithful slave class say is true ?Yes and no ! It is very disturbing to me that they are considered equivalent.
    This is getting harder and harder.Liars will not inherit the kingdom.I keep asking myself are we not all going to end up being blood guilty in Jehovahs eyes for just keeping silent and going along with everything we are being fed when we really know the Truth.Are we not suppose to stand up and shout from the rooftops what we have learned here with the guidance we have received from Brother King.I feel so torn and confused at what is right from wrong.

    • 1914for100Alex

      I used to think the same thing. Who wouldn’t want to hear this explanation of things, right? But after reading people’s stories, and many articles I’ve come to the conclusion that this information, for now at least, is only meant for certain people. There’s a very common theme here regarding how people came to find this site. You’ll notice it doesn’t tend to be your average loyal to the WTS JW. In my case, I haven’t been to a KH in over 25 years, but I never stopped wondering what the truth was. In other people’s cases, they knew something wasn’t right, and they stopped going to meetings. Others stayed, but had the guts to search the Internet for answers. This site is mostly for those types of people. I know it’s crazy, but by being “bad” and either questioning or leaving the org, we were given this information. That’s not how it’s supposed to work, right? But if Jehovah intended things to work out differently, Robert wouldn’t have gotten the boot, and the WTS would be singing a different tune. As far as worrying about Jehovah being mad at you, and you being “blood guilty”, how is that possible when this is all part of his plan? He knows how you feel and what’s in your heart. In my opinion, shouting from the rooftops could cause a lot more stumbling than biting your tongue until the appropriate time. Just roll with it if you can, and know that a time will come for you to help others.

      • Shelley.

        After listening to podcast 14 this afternoon I understand things more clearly.It is hard to hold my tongue but I realize I must for now.I definitely would never want to stumble anyone.
        Sent from my iPad

    • Lisa

      You took the words right out of my mouth! What should be shouted with the loudest voice , has to be spoken with a whisper. I feel confused and torn also.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Take strength from Sally and Shelley and endure together. Everyone here loves and supports you all.

        • sally

          Your a diamond Burt! 🙂

    • Man from the lions pit

      This bipolar feelings are normal ,internal struggles and conflicts are what we are as humans just a “dust”.big hugs

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hello Shelley, I know things can seem a contradiction at this time but do not put too much store behind this. The watchtower is Jehovah’s organisation for the time being. One of its purposes is to do, just what you see for yourself. By this I mean that it is part of the test of faith, ergo, who will you trust, Jehovah, or the organisation. Satan has requested that all people be tested this way, saying that no one will serve Jehovah without reward and will give up their trust in Jehovah to save, or so they think, their own life. The watchtower draws in people because it illustrates and teaches about Jehovah, making his name known. Thus, righteous hearted people are drawn to its doors….as you are. It is a net for such people. But like a net, it holds all sorts of people, swept through the sea of humanity as it is. Did not this net pick up the governing body also? And who may prove false? But that does not mean that the intent to do right and to love Jehovah was not originally there, because it almost certainly was, but has become corrupted. Simply going through the door as you are, is only a pure beginning. You are going through the door for all the right reasons. There are many alleyways and hall ways in this house. If you stay with the bible even without explanation from the watchtower, Jehovah will make his name known to you….is this not happening here? Unbiased and true? Thus, when the master comes, you will hear the voice, have your oil ready for your lamp, and come out because of your faith. It is not the convoluted teachings of the watchtower that go beyond the bible that will save you, but it is the teachings of the watchtower that are still remaining true to the bible, and there are many, that will sustain you in the right place, ….Jehovah’s organisation, waiting for the master. The watchtower, if you will, is in three parts, the truth, the lie, and the test between the two. The truth that you also find here, enables you to evaluate what is said within the watchtower, and come out to meet the master when he comes, and not be trapped by the parallel voice of men that Satan wishes to entrap you with and whom have sneaked into the organisation of Jehovah to do just that. So, don’t be confused. Carry on in seeking Jehovah with these right hearted people both here and within the congregation and you may be there to help those in the congregation whom may otherwise be trapped in the deceit. Jehovah tests us all as to the purity of our intent to serve him. So carry on in peace and do not be troubled. Jehovah is searching for you and has clearly found you. He has a purpose for you, of that you can be sure.

      • Shelley.

        Thank you soo much for your kind and encouraging words.I really needed them this morning as I face another day.
        Sent from my iPad

        • Burt Reynolds

          Hello Shelley, if you are having to ‘face another day’ ; if this applies to the watchtower, there is a problem. If it applies to just another working day, well, sad to say, that’s the way for a lot of us. It certainly was for me. If you are referring to the watchtower and the confusion of conscience you are experiencing, then maybe there is another way of looking at it. I noticed you had a certain trepidation about your study today and about the contradictions that amounted to a lie in your opinion. You are of course right in what you say, the watchtower is not on the same par as the bible, so how can you answer that it is?! The watchtower is hurrying people to commit. This filters down to the brothers on the ministry. There is, without doubt, a feather in the cap of a brother that draws people into the truth to the point of baptism. He is admired for his mature teaching…he gains kudos in his standing. Remarkably, I never once heard praise go to Jehovah for showing that one the way. Well, their hurry is not your concern. That is their agenda. Not yours. If you are uncertain as to the position of the watchtower in relation to the bible, then make the brother do the work. Ask him why he feels that way, what biblical evidence is there to support it, even how does he think Jehovah feels about this relationship? Do not feel as though you have to rush through your study and agree everything to please them. You do not and they enjoy a good discussion. The watchtower is very heavy handed in passing on inferred urgency and outright commitment. It was noted in this site not long ago, that for younger people, one kiss between them was turned into a commitment to marry by the watchtower. It happened to me too. I had to laugh. But it was no laughing matter at the time.

          So it is with your commitment, if this is becoming a burden to you. It should not be that way. The yoke of the Christ is light and easy, a joy to carry and to go where it leads you. This is your study. Not theirs. This is your search. Not theirs. This is your truth, not theirs and you will have to answer for it. If you are perplexed at doctrine then get them to do the explaining. Take the yoke of responsibility off your shoulders and say to them, let’s just do this by the bible for the time being. Leave out the organisation, show me the basis for your belief from the bible. I want to believe the bible and find out what the bible says. Then, we can see together if the doctrine of the watchtower meets the bible. I need to understand the bible first before you introduce the society. I need proof from the bible. If they know their business, this will not be a problem and you will find the truth of the bible is indeed easy and loving. If it’s a problem for them, then they condemn themselves and you do not have to take on their guilt, hurry and insistence. Let Jehovah lead you, and speak with him often. There are many here only too happy to help you if you need it. Don’t let this get you down. Allow Jehovah to lead you. You have all the support you need here without any obligation or pressure. Ask, and it will be freely given. Drink life’s waters, free, here but know Jehovah’s organisation is there too. ?

          • Shelley.

            Yes,I was referring to my study.I am feeling very pressured to perform.It is always pointed out how others are progressing much faster than I.Today I was told I should be attending the mid week meeting not just attending the Sunday morning meeting.I was told today I was going to be receiving a sheparding call from the elders to discuss my progress and what is holding me back.
            I started studying a year ago weeks after loosing my son to a psychosis induced suicide and a year after loosing my father to cancer.The hope of the resurrection is what drew me.I started going to the Sunday meeting immediately after I started studying.Two months later an elder joined in on my study and he told me that if the resurrection was my only motive I was basically wasting everyone’s time and because I was a smoker Jehovah would not answer my prayers and I would not receive Jehovahs Holy Spirit.Then another elder told me if I let my grief overcome me I would be saying that I did not believe in Jehovahs promise of the resurrection.Needless to say this really set me back and I literally stopped praying to Jehovah and I am still having difficulty with prayer as I am feeling unworthy.I am doing my best as I am still dealing with a lot of grief. I just wish I didn’t have to deal with all the pressure and it could be just me and Jehovah.I am very great full for the encouragement.Thank you

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Shelley, I’m really sorry to hear about your losses. It must be very debilitating to have suffered such losses so close together and all the worry about your sons mental health previously to his loss. How sad to hear this. Be assured that Jehovah is aware of your grief and your hope for the resurrection. By no means is it wrong to wish for the resurrection and to draw close to Jehovah to learn about it. As part of that, you would learn naturally of the love of Jehovah that moves him to recognise the need for resurrection. So your elder was quite wrong to say it would be a waste of their time and yours because this was your original motive for listening. How rude. How shallow. How uncaring and what lack of insight. People come to Jehovah for all sorts of reasons, often with no inkling of who or what he is, but simply from a point of view for hoping life could be better. You are still in a state of shock and grieving and this will fade in time I can assure you, but the happy memories will remain and comfort you and sustain you. And the same is true of Jehovah. You should not be pressured to go to meetings. There is no timing, no regulation that says what meetings you should go to or for how long your study should go on. This is not fair on you. Everyone should learn at their own pace and make sure that what they learn is true. The love for Jehovah is already with you and you can attend meetings when and if you choose and according to your own commitment at the time. Jehovah knows you. It is not for me to advise on what you should do, or certainly beyond what I would do, but I would suggest that you reduce the stress on yourself and give yourself time as your grief makes you vulnerable. I would say to them though that you will take your progress at your own speed for learning and that you do not want to be pressured. Be firm but kind with them and protect your own feelings. Jehovah is patient, in fact he is patience personified and he knows your motives and intent. Do not be put off by these brothers’ approach or attitude. You could always ask for a different study conductor who will not pressure you. Do not feel alone. As has already been mentioned to you Shelley, you have a family here of friends who all wish to support you through this difficult time and I for one can only apologise that you are being treated so roughly by the watchtower. As has been said by others here, this must be such a trying and confusing time for you. Don’t give up. Keep in touch. We will help and support you.

            • Shelley.

              Thank you for your kindness. I will never give up on strengthening my relationship with Jehovah. He loved me enough to give me my beautiful son who left behind with me a sweet little boy my grandson who is autistic. Jehovah has also offered me the gift of seeing my son again and healing my grandson. I look forward to the day when my precious little boy will be reunited with his dad and poppy and he is able to tell his daddy and poppy that he loves them.I will do everything in my power to be deserving of this most loving gift.

            • sally

              Oh wow Shelly, I have tears in my eyes here hearing your story! Much love to you fellow study sister! and YES you will get to see your boy and you KNOW it!!!
              I can so empathize with you on so much of what you say. I am too struggling with the study (as well as the watchtower on Sunday’s even more since I came to this site because I know here I have the real truth and its so in conflict with all I got taught in the last year. , I can so completely see it now. Before I was feeling so low as I believed in Jehovah, Jesus wonderful ransom sacrifice and Jehovah’s plans for everyone who believes and loves him, but I didn’t feel right at the congregation and my study sister was dominating me and displaying quite unchristian behaviour and I was so confused. I actually was getting to the point of thinking I don’t want to be in the new world with these people I can’t believe I was thinking that! I have kept quiet to an extent but my study sister and her elder husband definitely have become suspicious as I have changed. I do question things I can’t do anything else but…like you I am on the second book and it so far seems to be all about the governing body and how thankful we need to be for them and how amazing they are. My study sister is at the point of “worshiping them” If we could just stick to bible facts in the study I could cope but its all about the organisation. Last week at my study I had to POINT OUT several times that its Jehovah organisation and his will. I.truly swear, that If I had not said Jehovah’s name, we would not of mentioned him or Jesus ONCE during my study session. Its so hard how to manage it all. It is wrong that you are having to have a “sheparding call” about progressing. It takes time and its totally unfair to pressure people like this. I suspect I will be getting pressured soon, but at the moment I have clearly backed off, and kept distance that I don’t think they know what to do with me. I have my study tomorrow night and I am dreading it. Keep your chin up Shelly its so hard but we have to keep finding a way to manage our situations which are so similar. I know Jehovah loves me and I am grateful that he got me as far as I know he has. I only thank him, not the organisation and I will not be forced to extend my worship anywhere else but to our loving God. I know you feel the same and so we must just pray to him to help us through these tough times. Take lots of care xx

            • Burt Reynolds

              Sally I too was of the same opinion for years about not even wanting to be in the kingdom with people who behaved this way. I never knew others felt the same as me. And for you too, to be dreading your study, shows how far the watchtower has distanced itself from the love of Jehovah and Jesus shown to us through the ransom. Truely the love of the greater number has cooled off. You keep up with Shelley and continue to support each other through this test! How ideally placed you are to help each other and to remain strong. Jehovah will bless you both for your dedication.

            • sally

              That is a horrible way to think though isn’t it Burt, to discover the truth, and God’s plan and then to feel like you don’t actually want it because you wouldn’t fit in!! To question whether you want everlasting life on paradise earth?!! totally bizarre but its true. This was where my mind was when Volcanic started posting Roberts articles on her facebook. Jehovah definitely got her to do that I am positive of that now as the timing could not have been more perfect! Yes I will make contact with Shelly and also Lisa hopefully, I feel blessed that there are so many good people here and 2 of them are students like me….would be a shame not to take advantage of it. Take Care Burt thanks for the words of wisdom and advice as usual!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes it is sad to think that way but if that had not been the case, would you have been searching? Why were you dissatisfied with apparent truth? The fact that even the guise of righteousness from the watchtower could not capture your soul, is in itself, evidence that righteousness is from within, and cannot be enlightened or ignited by falsity. When the master calls, the faithful answer and they do not come from a point of learning, but from the love that is within, the yearning for peace and righteousness. The love of and for Jehovah. As the scripture says, God does not chose the wise, but the foolish and by that he does not mean the stupid, but the honest of heart that are not wise to this world, or even in the eyes of the world. Not haughty, but meek. Not proud, but lowly and hungry for the truth. That the gateway to Jehovah is overgrown with satans weeds is a test I was never aware of in my time with the witnesses and it is an extraordinary revelation to learn of it now, but how I wish I had known all those years ago as I would still be in the watchtower now as a thorn in their side, but also a sign post to the safe harbour for those that searched. Those of you in this position now are privileged indeed to hack a way through the overgrowth of weeds and search for the roses within, the Rose growing on a rubbish dump as the watchtower used to refer to such ones drawn from Christendom. At some point I have to get my shears and go back too. Hopefully we shall see each other there.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Why don’t Lisa, you and Shelley exchange contact details and support each other. You all seem to be in the same boat, so maybe it would be good to sail together through this storm?

            • Shelley.

              Great idea Burt.

            • Lisa

              I think it sounds encouraging Shelly, I would love to talk with you about things so maybe we can help and strengthen each other. How do I contact you ?

            • Shelley.

              I would love to hear from you. email me any time at shelley.ann@live.ca

            • Lisa

              Hi Shelley, I tried using your email address and I don’t know if you received it? I can try again?

            • Shelley.

              No I have not received anything yet.

            • Lisa

              Hi Shelley, I used shelley.ann@live.ca and nothing came through, I then used the entire long address and it would not deliver it, said it was to multiple people.????? I will try again. I am anxious to talk to you and Sally.

            • Shelley.

              You have the right email address. I have received mail from Sally and Sienna ok. Have no idea why I am not receiving your mail. Sorry

            • Lisa

              I would love to Burt ! I also am having a crisis with my oldest son who has caused me unbelievable grief and heartache. I need a sister so we can talk to each other. How do I go about getting her contact? I am new to all this here.

            • Daisy

              Dear Burt, full of good advise, wisdom & compassion… You always speak so consollingly from your heart about these situations, for that is where love lives & I love you brother for that.
              How I wish I’d known you when I was in a similar situation as Shelley, Sally & Lisa, a long time ago now. But if I were all three of them today, I would not only be rejoicing that I’d found such a safe place as this, where truth comes before Pharisaical teachings, I’d be rejoicing because I wouldn’t be under any jurisdiction to act like a serpent, I could throw caution to the wind! I would be taking total responsibility for my life by not granting authority to another ( 1 Sam 8:19)
              I’d rejoice because I was discerning all things & knowing right from wrong.
              I’d also rejoice because I know that elders are obeying the rules of men & that those who study with me are deluded into thinking they are obeying God by following those rules of men.
              No one can truly take responsibility for our salvation, only our King.
              So I’d be feeling very good about myself right now. ..Relieved of all the angst burdened upon me by stern, rigid & harsh processes, because I know that ‘I Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion’
              I’d be feeling strong enough to face whatever there is to face heading my way because I’m in control of my own life before God & on that higher level called love.
              In other words sisters don’t be bullied, like I was! Love from Daisy 😀

            • Shelley.

              Yes with Jehovahs help I will welcome my son back.Knowing that my son with once again be alive without living in the terror of his mental illness brings tears of joy to my eyes.The daily pain I feel from the loss of my baby only makes me appreciate more what Jehovah has done for me by means of giving his son as a ransom sacrifice so that my boy can live.
              Jehovah has revealed the truth to us for a reason.He reads our hearts.We have to keep reminding ourselves of that.It is not important if our study conductors ,elders,or any org feels we are worthy.Jehovah and his son are all that really should concern us.We have a very private relationship with our father and we should not let men interfere with that.
              I am no longer going to allow the pressure of conformity to the ideals of org rob me of the love I have for Jehovah.I may not attend all the meetings but I am sure that I spend more time studying the truth than most witnesses.Im sure it is the same for you.
              I am sure that in most cases the brothers and sisters are genuine and sincere in their efforts to help us but they have been brainwashed.I know how difficult and infuriating it can sometimes be but I know the sisters that I study with truly love Jehovah.They do not see that their awe of the org. And GB is actually a form of idolatry.Sometimes I want to scream wake up.i have to remind myself all the time that Jehovah allows this.For reasons I do not know Jehovah has led us to the real truth.
              In my case I found the truth about the truth when I was about to give up.Jehovah led us here and it only confirms for me how desperately close we are to the end of this system.He does not want to see anyone destroyed,he wants all to be saved.In my minds eye I see him grabbing my hand and turning me around.All my life people have told me I have too big of a heart and you obviously do to.Jehovah is holding onto your hand for a reason.
              As for me Sally I will continue on course with my study of the org publications and take in the Sunday talk.I will appreciate the truths and filter out the untruths.I will no longer worry about where the org figures I should be at this point in time.I will focus most of my energy on Jehovahs word the Bible,prayer,and developing a loving bond with my father.
              Thank you for your words of encouragement and if you ever would like to send me a private message feel free. shelley.ann@live.ca

            • Lisa

              I see your contact Shelly, I will contact you very soon so we can talk. Share stories and encourage one another, I am looking forward to that ! Thank you, and thanks to all my brothers and sisters on this site for the love and kindness I have been shown.

            • sally

              Thanks Shelly I will definitely email you and maybe when you have Lisa’s we can email each other as well. It is very fortunate to have 2 other bible students in the same boat i have to say. My study was cancelled tonight by my Study sister so I have the week off. I shouldn’t feel relieved but I do. You are right there are people in my congregation that really love Jehovah and are warm lovely people to. I look at them at the meeting and I just hope and pray that they will accept the real truth when the time comes because they are good people. I wish I could talk to them now about my discovery but i know I cannot as they are so totally conditioned to the org’s ways that I would only damage them as well as myself if I said anything.
              You sound like a woman with a plan Shelly! I need to get a plan like that to and I am going to take your attitude about the way forward and go with it. Appreciate the truths and filter out the untruths. That is very well put! I need to stop worrying as well I think now I have a more “formal” study relationship in place hopefully it will get easier. But it would be good to support each other through the process (also Lisa) as sometimes these things are easier said than done!

            • Shelley.

              I look forward to hearing from you. Maybe the three of us can encourage each other thru the rough patches.

            • Daisy

              Hip hip hooray! You go ladies… Now you’re talking ! And remember, you’re in our prayers.

            • Peter Zuccerberg

              I too understand Shelly. Believe me I do. I lost both my mother then father within months in 2010/11.

              I could not make it too the funerals, which compounded the grief, to this day.

              But I was grateful that was able to spend an enormous amount of time with my mother taking care of her (terminal Cancer) practically daily between 2002-2008,
              without that, it would have been even worse.

              My father was a hero of mine, so you can imagine my pain. He died of Cancer.

              The resurrection, with them instantly young again is my cure… I just think about it, and my pain practically goes away.

              I should really not butt in on this, but when I saw you wrote the Elder and your study conductor was making these oddish statements about you and Jehovah and your parents, I just wanted to re-count my experiences.

              For the record, I have seen the Elders and Ministerial Servants at multiple congregations and, an acting Circuit Overseer do things (to me and others) you simply would not believe…this is no exaggeration…it is an understatement. Its fair to say that they were out of control and I am glad to see Burt Reynolds just speak his mind a bit.

              I hope they read his and others comments on this. I hope it puts some fear or caution or even wisdom in them, because some of these people can have a habit, unchecked, to get drunk on their truth.

              Jehovah comforts. Just the resurrection solves all my grief problems when they swell-up from time to time. I hope it does for you too!

              You can see perhaps the Watchtower, with all the negative press it has been getting, and from us and of course brother Kings website and youtubes, is getting quieter and quieter i.e. afraid to get caught in more religious fraud and outright civil and really criminal activity in covering up criminal activity in the Congregation.

              So speaking out and asking questions until “you” understand and are “fully” satisfied…is a good thing, would you not agree?

              And asking the questions and saying “the emperor is naked” or, ”
              hey, I dont understand that…what did you mean? Or, “I still dont know what you meant by that…can you explain that better? And on and on… until you get it…take your time…that is their job…

            • Shelley.

              Thank you Peter for your kind words.When I have times when I am taken over with uncontrollable grief I pray to Jehovah to help lift my pain and he always helps me.I picture my Son and Dad in the paradise smiling and laughing together and yes it gives me great comfort. As for asking questions,I do not question any doctrinal issues at all.I believe in the doctrinal truths.As for phrophetic interpretations I have my answers here and they make complete sense.Anytime I question phrophesy I just get another article from the org.printed off the site to read so I just stopped asking questions about these matters.I am spending most of my time reading the Bible alone and I am finding that I am coming to know Jehovah and Jesus more this way than through org study aids.Through my studies here I have come to understand that Jehovah allows this deluding influence to reign over his people and why helps me to endure through the lies and deception. Once again thank you for your words of encouragement and I am so sorry for your loss.One thing that I do get great comfort from is that my Son and Dad will not have to go through the great tribulation.They will sleep through it and not have to wake up to this cruel cold world.
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            • Peter Zuccerberg

              Thank you for sharing your story with us.

              I too have a large measure of relief that my parents will not have to go through the Great Tribulation, so now I “know” they will be there in the New System of Things.

            • Joyce Haze

              Dear Shelley. Your experiences both in your personal life and life inside the organization are absolutely unbearable. I have been a long time Jehovahs Witness but must admit the love was much more profound within Gods house early on. I was always told there was no reason in our search that would be dismissed by JEHOVAH!!! My interest early on was my children. As far as feeling unworthy in prayer, we are all unworthy when it comes to the glory of Jehovah and his perfect Son Christ Jesus!! THEY are perfect in all Their ways, we may say to ourselves “and what do I have to offer”. We are pretty useless, if that’s the right word. BUT that is what Christ Jesus Ransom Sacrifice lovingly covers for us. We all realize in this beautiful provision set before us, our end of the bargain is to Love JEHOVAH with our whole heart, above all else, and our love, in that sacrifice Jesus so lovingly made to his Father, affording us the Hope of having a place in His arrangement of things. Along with the resurrection hope!! There is great hope for all who maintain their love, loyalty and integrity to our Father in the heavens and knowing exactly the purpose in all that we see taking place!

            • Shelley.

              Thank you Joyce. Jehovah is a patient and loving God and he has been so patient with me. I have not given up so it proves to me that Jehovah sees something in me he finds worthy. He revealed the truths I have found here when I was ready to give up.That speaks volumes to me. I have received more love and encouragement here than I have in the past year attending the KH.I am so very grateful for that.

            • Searcher

              Hi Shelley, i hope you find the following article encouraging:

              “The joy of Jehovah is your stronghold.” (Nehemiah 10:8)

              We have reason to rejoice, for our God Jehovah is a happy God and he wants us to be happy. (Psalms 104:31; Prov. 27:11) The sons of Korah expressed their joy in songs of praise: “What joy for those who can live in your house, always singing your praises,” yes, “what joy for those who trust in you.” (Psalms 84:4, 12; NLT) King David likewise found joy in worshiping Jehovah, singing: “Happy is the people whose God is Jehovah.” (Psalms 144:15) Everything that Jehovah has given us is meant to bring us joy, including preaching “the glorious good news of the happy God.” (1 Tim. 1:11) In fact, joy is a fruitage of God’s spirit, for it reflects the very nature of God. Therefore, we can rightly expect to be happy when we have God’s spirit. (Gal. 5:22; Acts 13:52)

              Why, though, is joy lacking sometimes in our life; which is then reflected in our lack of feeling motivated? Some can’t remember the last time they were truly happy. Perhaps it was when they first learned of Jehovah and his promise of everlasting life on a righteous earth, and the hope of a resurrection for loved ones who have died. But that joy seems to have evaporated over the years. (Matt. 5:5,6; John 11:25,26, 39-44) When joy is lacking, it may indicate a problem; just as physical pain indicates a physical problem. No, it does not necessarily mean that we have lost God’s spirit.

              In the time of the prophet Ezekiel, Jehovah took notice of the ones among his people who were “sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that [were] being done in the midst of [them].” Their lack of joy was a good thing, for it marked them for survival. You see, God’s people had become extremely wicked, and because nothing of any consequence was happening to them they actually began to believe that Jehovah was not seeing them, or not caring; prompting them to say: “Jehovah has left the land, and Jehovah is not seeing.” Yet, they did not realize that Jehovah was about to execute his judgment upon them, for he said: “And as for me also, my eye will not feel sorry, neither shall I show compassion. Their way I shall certainly bring upon their own head.” (Ezek. 9:3-10; compare Malachi 3:14-18) Within a few short years, Jehovah brought the Babylonian army against his people. Jerusalem with its temple was destroyed, and most of the inhabitants did not survive. But those who had been marked for survival, as described by Ezekiel of the man with the secretary’s inkhorn, had God’s protection and even prospered in their place of exile, Babylon ― such as the prophet Daniel; and king Jehoiachin who surrendered to the Babylonian king. (2 Kings 24:12-15; 25:27-30; Dan. 1:3-7; 2:48,49)

              If you are “sighing and groaning over all the detestable things” that are happening within God’s household today; and you no longer enjoy attending the meetings in your Kingdom Hall, or even at the larger conventions, take courage. Don’t feel that it is because you have lost God’s spirit. Your sighing and groaning may actually be marking you for survival, as Jehovah sees your “streams of water” that “have run down [your] eyes over of the fact that they have not kept [God’s] law.” (Psalms 119:136; 2 Peter 2:7-9) Also, if you have come to view your sacred service to Jehovah ― such as preaching the good news of the kingdom ― as having become burdensome, and robbing you of your joy, then be assured that this burden is not from God. It is more likely that you are chafing under a heavy load that has been imposed upon you by men; and you mistakenly view it as from Jehovah. Jesus invited the people to “come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls. For my yoke is kindly and my load is light.” (Matt. 11:28-30)

              The heavy load that many are experiencing today originates with the foretold man of lawlessness. For example, the unscriptural doctrine regarding “Dedication” demands that God’s people must “live up to their dedication” in order to receive everlasting life. And since such a thing is not mentioned in the Scriptures, this man of lawlessness is free to explain whatever he wants it to mean. (2 Thess. 2:3,4, 9; Acts 20:29,30; Gal. 4:15-17) Many years ago, a young married brother and father told me that he did not expect to survive Armageddon because he could not live up to his dedication, that is, all that the Society teaches is essential for survival. Worshiping Jehovah had become too great a burden for him. According to his understanding, this required him to attend all the meetings (which were three times a week back then); preparing for the meetings; commenting at the meetings; conducting a regular weekly family study; perhaps conducting a Bible study with an interested person; participating in the preaching activity, preferably twice a week, and spending at least the number of hours averaged by the congregation. This was especially hard since his job took him away from his family for a few days each month. Having lost the “joy of Jehovah,” he was about to give up on himself.

              In order for us to hold on to our God-given joy ― which is vital in helping us endure ― we need to distinguish between the things that God requires of us, and the needless burden that is placed upon us by men. (Matt. 23:1-4; 1 John 4:6) Remember, Jesus said that his yoke is kindly and his load is light. If your yoke and load has become heavy and burdensome, robbing you of your joy, then you can be certain that it is not the yoke Jesus invites you to accept. By means of his prophet Ezekiel, Jehovah addresses the wicked shepherds and accuses them of scattering his sheep, because “with harshness you have had them in subjection, even with tyranny.” Soon, Jehovah will “break the bars of their yoke” and “deliver [his sheep] out of the hand of those who had been using them as slaves.” (Ezek. 34:2-10, 26,27) Be assured that Jehovah cares for his sheep. He tells us: “You are my flock, the sheep of my pasture. You are my people, and I am your God.” (Ezekiel 34:31; NLT

              Source material
              http://perimeno.ca/Index_A.htm

            • Shelley.

              Thank you for this article and the web site.Yes I found it very encouraging.A great way to start my morning.

            • Joe Dman

              Hey Shelley, I got on to talk to Sally but got caught up in your posts and wanted to give my two cents of encouragement. It’s upsetting even to me that those “helping” you aren’t properly using any of the gifts outlined in Ro 12:6-8. Especially that of encouraging. My Aunt has been studying off and on for over 30 years. She just got baptized recently. I can tell you like I told her, before she got baptized, that after I read that Daniel prayed 3 times a day I started doing the same. At least three times. It helped immensely and I can tell you I was not feeling worthy either. It wasn’t long that I started going back to the meetings and requested to be reinstated. My Aunt assured me she would start doing that as well. This was before she was baptized. So maybe praying more often helped her to take the plunge.

              Jehovah would not have made the way for you to start a study, and then find your way to this site if he did not think you could find your way in through the narrow gate. Don’t let the term “narrow gate” discourage you. He would not have showed you that gate if he didn’t think you could find your way to it. Mathew 7:13-14 says to “go in through the narrow gate….whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.” In verse 7 we’re told to “Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking and you will find; keep on knocking and it will be opened to you; for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking it will be opened.” Keep on, Keep on, Keep on.

              Did you know that none of us have gone through that gate yet. We along with you are on that path. We all can use the gifts that God gave us here, and we all have the gift of encouragement. You are our encouragement just as we are yours.

              I also started reading the Bible regularly. I do want to caution you: Don’t let coming to this website get in the way of your personal bible reading and studying. That’s why you don’t see me on here that much anymore. I even told someone new to the site a while back “welcome to our addiction”. It is an addiction. You make a comment and you want to constantly look at replies or how many upvotes you get.
              Then you see something interesting in the recent comments section and you go find the thread and get involved in the topic or sometimes unfortunately the drama. Commit to praying and Bible reading first. Then prepare for you study and the meetings. Then come to the site. At this time all three are important. It’s what was right for me, and I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be right for everyone.
              I have another Aunt that quit studying recently. She got in to it with her study sisters. She quit going to meetings and studying. I just sent her one of Robert’s books. She started reading it. But she too has been studying more off than on for 30 years. She quit smoking, but started back after she got in to it with the study sisters. So it’s a problem within the organization that is full of imperfect people.
              I take your side on these matters, but where it doesn’t interfere with God’s laws, let yourself be wronged. Jehovah will right the matter in due time and likely exalt you over those that impeded you. Some day they will have to exercise humility and beg for your forgiveness. And then you’ll be so happy that you made it that you’ll say, “it was nothing, don’t worry about it”.

            • Shelley.

              Thank you for the advice.You are right.I need to work on humbling myself enough to throw my burdens on Jehovah in prayer rather than carrying them myself.I have always been the strong go to person in my home.As silly as it sounds letting go is very difficult for me.I quit smoking for three weeks and relapsed recently.I should have relied on Jehovah more.I have read half of the bible now but I need to go back to that more to.I have read a lot of the societies publications and faithfully study the watchtower.The food provided by the GB is good.I enjoy it and find it to be very uplifting most of the time.The only time I find it upsetting is when it comes to prophecy,1914, and loyalty to the org.Jehovah knows best and he will reveal the truths about these matters in his due time so who am I to question his motives.Maybe this is my test of faith. Things that were said to me were discouraging but I’m sure that was not the intent.We are all imperfect people and I need to get past it. Once again thank you.

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            • David Koch

              Im truley sorry for your loss.

          • Anderiega

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          • David Koch

            Just awesome. Loved it. Man u can articulate.

    • David Koch

      Hi there my name is David new to the forum but not new. Let me help or see if my thoughts are aligned here with Mr.King.
      Hes concluding That the watchtower society claim that they are the choosen of God and in fact display to the world Gods name as their banner of authenticity and truth. And as well by quoted scripture, they are this anointed class of mankind. In qouted scripture above declares “A wild beast of the field will tear them to pieces. It will destroy you, O Israel, because you turned against me, against your helper.”
      So God is accounting the error to them. That is their commission, regardless of the operation of error that is in them. Continue studies.Do draw close to Jehovah. Its perfectly natural to be sceptical and call it like it is. I feel. You can not be apostate,if thats what your thinking for speaking your mind.hope it helps

  • LW

    If I may mention something, as a young person that has been familiar with the truth and raised in it, and having made the discovery that I have, I have arrived at a conclusion, and feel free to let me know if my conclusion is in any way wrong. We all can learn from each other.
    So, like how previous generations of JWs had to deal with the surrounding world events relating to their faith etc., I believe that especially for us as younger ones that inevitably we will be subjected to the ultimate test of faith, in view of the fact of where this system is headed. Of course when the older generations were younger, they knew the end was coming, and even those among the 1975 thing as well. I just have this deep-seated feeling that all that is coming up, the judgement of the house of God, the coming of Christ, the revealing of the true anointed sons of God, the collapse of the present system and arising of the eighth world king, and the finale, will define the present generation of JWs, but again, especially those younger.

    I know I haven’t spoken so much of my spiritual background, but hopefully from having read this post, you may have a little more understanding of me. 🙂

    • RLALLEN

      Proverbs 17:17 came to mind…

      • RLALLEN

        I agree with you, we will all find out who is true and who is false…We will inevitably be defined as such

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hello LW, I know you are right. As one of the ancient ones that saw 1975 and behind, I can say that yes, we thought the end was nigh. Verily! Forsooth! ( I can even speak the lingo). Why so many now, like yourself, believe the same has but one defining element. We of 1975 believed the end was nigh because we were told so by men, backed by what proved to be a flimsy rhetoric supported by a cursory knowledge that we were allowed to have, of the bible, by the watchtower. In those days before the Internet and the tools to research for ourselves, this was indeed understandable. We did not know of the corruption of the watchtower. There was no way to know, or expose it, apart from in a fragmented form. And so we were deceived. But now, we can assure ourselves of the very same ending because….and this is the critical factor….we can check it from the bible and see for ourselves, with understanding, because we have those who have insight, and those with insight, remain true to the bible. The two match. Even for those of us with insight back in the old days, did not have eyes to see, only ears to hear, and what we were told were lies, but in a sheeps clothing of truth. The truth remains, paradoxically, but now there is an overlay of insight. We of decrepitude can see this more clearly perhaps, but what a blessing for you younger ones ( I can’t believe I said that!) to have the whole truth handed you freely and with the insight given you to behold it for what it is. Take it, with both hands.

      • LW

        Thank you for the encouragement Burt. This general awakening and overall peeling away of the veil isn’t by coincidence, but is happening because in my honest opinion, Jehovah is causing all of these “hidden” things to be revealed.

  • Sharon

    is any one thinking about how this internet takeover will affect any of us or this site? any thoughts?

    • sally

      HI Sharon!
      I have been wandering the exact same thing. The trouble is, we don’t know what the impact is in general yet, let alone how it would affect such sites as these. I suppose its going to be a case of wait and see. I just hope that we don’t lose Robert and each other now or in the near future because what are we going to do? Maybe Robert will organise a database of emails so that we can communicate that way? We know that at some point, we are going to lose this site and probably the internet altogether, but Jehovah knows what is coming our way so we just are going to need to rely o him to make provision.

    • LW

      Are you talking about the scheduled UN takeover of the Internet ?

      • 1914for100Alex

        I had to look this up because I hadn’t heard of it. What I learned is that if you read the sites that lean right, it’s going to happen. If you read the sites that lean left, it’s not what’s going on. Imagine that. Looks like we’ll have to wait and see. One thing we know for sure is that if it does happen the media will refuse to cover it.

    • RLALLEN

      Maybe Brother King will take to short wave radio broadcast….Keep in mind that the u.n. will clamp down on freedom of speech and information…the dictatorial beast that cast the truth to the earth can’t allow anyone speaking truth to its demonic power…so, we already know Brother King speaks the truth….Jehovah will not allow His words to be suppressed, like the rulers tried to do with the bible in the past…but, it was a dark age to endure before the light of truth broke through…it remains to be seen what will happen…the government will most likely give permission individually to any who want to use the internet, like a drivers license…anything to control and anything to bring under compulsion the great and small….its what we can expect for sure!

    • 1914for100Alex

      I’m thinking that a Bible and a copy of Robert’s book will probably go a long ways. Imagine being able to show people, in print, with a copyright pre-dating the collapse etc, that all these things were predicted. And that they were in the Bible all along. If that doesn’t make people ditch the Watchtower, I don’t know what will.

      I suppose that doesn’t really answer your question now that I re-read it, but it’s what popped into my head lol.

    • e.v.g

      The message of e-watchman is powerful, the problem is our own heart, including the gb with all their wisdom, what a shame!!! Sometimes i feel sad about all this situation because will not end well, every day i have to face this wicked world and my own wickedness, i try to understand jesus words.

    • Burt Reynolds

      I have just looked up the prophesy where it says ‘ and the Internet shall be taken over in the last days and all shall fall silent. People shall be left to speculate by themselves and great shall be that speculation. And it came to pass that the Internet was not taken over, but it was and then again not. And people pondered greatly at this contradiction and said ‘master, tell us when the Internet shall be taken over?’ And he said, ‘ in the last days questions such as these will be without answer’. And people said ‘oh’ and began not to be bothered about it and take each day as it came and thought about writing letters, but then thought, ‘what if the post is taken over by the UN?’ And then a great light from heaven said…’let there be smoke signals’ and it came to be, and it was an evening and a morning of the age of wait and see. (Book of Burt. Ch1 v1)

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