You Will Be Beaten in Synagogues

//You Will Be Beaten in Synagogues

Friday, August 12

You will be beaten in synagogues and be put on the stand before governors and kings.Mark 13:9.

As those words indicate, some Christians will face tribulation in the form of physical persecution, perhaps at the instigation of religious or political leaders. Consider Paul’s example. Did he cower at the thought of being subjected to such persecution? Not at all. Paul bravely stood up to Satan’s frontal attacks and stated: “I do not consider my own life of any importance to me, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to bear thorough witness to the good news of the undeserved kindness of God.”  Clearly, Paul did not feel intimidated by the prospect of persecution. On the contrary, he was determined to endure, come what may. His primary concern was to “bear thorough witness” despite any tribulation.

COMMENTARY

The Watchtower had been pointing forward to the date for several decades and as that fateful year drew near anticipation grew. Half the year had passed uneventfully. But then on June 28th, 1914, the heir of the throne of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire was assassinated. That singular event triggered a spasm of demonic madness. By August virtually all the major powers of Europe declared war upon the nations belonging to the opposing bloc. By October the First World War had officially begun and C.T. Russell confidently announced that the kings of this old system had had their day.

The Bible Students were no doubt impressed by the uncanny accuracy of Charles Taze Russell’s prognostications. Surely the war would lead into global anarchy and the battle of Armageddon, as Russell had also indicated.

But beyond the outbreak of war in Europe nothing unfolded as expected. Instead of leading his flock into the kingdom, as some were expecting, Pastor Russell unexpectedly passed away. A power struggle ensued among the Bible Students at Bethel headquarters. A relatively unknown leader emerged in J.F. Rutherford, who was then promptly arrested and sentenced to 20 years in prison for espionage.

But then the Great War suddenly ended. And after the Spanish Flu swept the globe in a few months and killed more souls than the war itself, the Bible Students who emerged from the turmoil who remained loyal to the Watchtower were less than half the number who had been associated prior to 1914. It was a great shake out.

Now we find ourselves at the brink of yet another war, even a third world war. And instead of deploying horse drawn artillery and machine guns, all the major prospective participants of the impending war are nuclear powers.

However, this time the seers upon the watch tower have assured Jehovah’s Witnesses that there cannot be another world war. Everything in prophecy has already been fulfilled. Instead, the Governing Body steadfastly maintains that the only event on the horizon is the great tribulation, which is due to erupt at any moment and will come about when the United Nations suddenly sets about on a global campaign to eradicate religion.

Although there is no indication that the UN has any such inclination or even the capability, the Watchtower insists that it is very near to doing so. How do they arrive at that conclusion? Jehovah’s Witnesses are led to believe that Jehovah has personally revealed his confidential matters to the Governing Body and only they are privy to such communications.

Even as the clouds of war gather the Watchtower is doubling down, insisting that our loyalty to God will require demonstrating loyalty to the Watchtower, even in the face of their complete and utter failure to discern the future.

So, the stage is set for those who will seek to remain loyal to God to be beaten in the synagogues —the synagogues being the forerunner of the kingdom halls of today.

Watchtower loyalists will simply refuse to move forward when the Christ arrives. They will then become the persecutors of the faithful, even as Jesus foretold when he said “Furthermore, brother will deliver brother over to death, and a father a child, and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. And you will be hated by all people on account of my name. But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.” —Mark 13:12-13

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2017-03-18T11:43:08+00:00 August 12th, 2016|Commentary|214 Comments
  • looking forward to 1914 as in Armageddon not the great tribulation. for anyone who mite get confused knowing 1874 got changed into 1914 long after 1914.

    • Leonard k

      interesting isn’t it a little common sense can go a long way brother.

      • i messed up on the comment and edited it back after editing it. blah.

  • Burt Reynolds

    If Jehovah had revealed to the governing body, his personal matters, then they would speak out. We used to play this game at school. I know something you don’t, and get our victim to beg to tell us what it was that we knew. The power exerted over the victim was total, for they were not in with those who ‘knew’ and thus subservient to them. We could string it out as long as we wanted because we knew also, that once we told our secret, if there was one at all, that power would dissolve in that instant. I know, because I was more often than not, the victim. And thus it is that the governing body cannot ‘reveal’ Jehovah’s personal matters because to do so, would dissolve their power. Two reasons…1. Jehovah’s personal matters, were they to tell us, would expose them as the liars that they are and show them as charlatans of the highest order, and 2, it is a lie that they have Jehovah’s confidence anyway. The brothers labour under nothing more puerile than the wit of a child’s game no less. I was reading this scripture today: Ecclesiasticus ch. 35, verses 22, to 26. The beauty of a woman cheereth the countenance , and a man loveth nothing better. If there be kindness, meekness and comfort in her tongue, then is not her husband like other men? He that getteth a wife, beginneth a possession, a help unto himself and a pillar of rest. Where no hedge is, there the possession is spoiled: and he that hath no wife, will wander up and down, mourning. Who will trust a thief well appointed, that skippeth from city to city? So who will believe a man that hath no house and lodgeth wheresoever the night taketh him?

    At first I thought, well, this explains why a good wife is more valuable than a pearl and harder to find….joke….but then the suggestion came to me that perhaps this is not so much about a loving wife, than the truth itself. The ‘kindness, meekness and comfort in her tongue’ is this not how the word of Jehovah appeals to us? Look at the comparison. God’s woman. He that has the truth, has a possession indeed. Where no protective hedge is, no word of Jehovah and no boundary perhaps of the bible truth, no trueness in interpretation and knowledge, he will wander up and down, searching. Who will trust a thief, well appointed…watchtower, who steal the truth from us, and how can we trust them that wander from ‘truth to truth’ wherever the darkness takes them? Because it is not new light, but new darkness. ( I don’t think that this verse is an indication of moving from New York to Warwick…city to city!! ) As verse 19 of the same chapter rightly points out; as the palate tasteth divers (different) kinds of venison, so doth an heart of understanding, false speeches.

  • Leonard k

    the scriptures are so very clear and Robert yes as you have explained the stage is set for these things to accrue that is very clear but it is because of such clarity that I some times am shocked that the watchtower does not see it or refuses to see it. more and more i am coming to understand this scriptures.

    Isaiah 29:15

    15 Woe to those who go to great lengths to conceal their plans from Jehovah. Their deeds are done in a dark place, While they say: “Who sees us? Who knows about us?”

    Isaiah 28:17

    17 And I will make justice the measuring line And righteousness the leveling tool. The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will flood out the hiding place.

    Isaiah 28:15

    15 For you men say: “We have made a covenant with Death, And with the Grave we have made an agreement. When the raging flash flood passes through, It will not reach us, For we have made a lie our refuge And we have hidden ourselves in falsehood.”

  • Joel Sherrod

    Hey everyone! Brother Joel here!

    Ah, the “Remain Loyal to Jehovah” District (Regional) Convention. I just attended mine two weekends ago (07/29-31). I gotta tell ya . . . whew! It almost got me. Yeah, it pulled at my “loyalty” heart strings real good! Lol! But I fought it.

    Not to say that many of the talks were not good and helpful. Many were. It’s just the fact that “thinking” Witnesses could see right through the propaganda bull sh . . . ugg, crap. Yeah! Bull crap!!! Lol.

    It was a Convention strictly for Jehovah’s Witnesses; developed to instill confidence in the ORGANIZATION, not Jehovah. I saw right through it.

    I say all this because, in truth, I was not gonna come back to this E-Watchman forum. I got very sentimental for the Organization and had made up my mind to not associate with you “apostates” (wink, wink) anymore. So I thought. But I got over my wimpiness fast!

    I realized that TRUE TRUTH is not found in a self-appointed man-made Body of sinful men. No. Real truth, and correct prophetic utterances, are found only in humbling oneself before the God of truth, and His Son, Jesus Christ. Only He inspires true prophetic understanding. (See 2 Cor. 1: 20, 21).

    So I Am back!!! Yes, once more I proudly take my place among those who are deemed as “apostates” by those who are sadly perishing.

    Love you all!

    . . . and Brother Robert, you keep up this good, fine, and life-changing work! Stay humble Brother, and God will be pleased with you in His fast-approaching incoming Kingdon!

    • Beverly kenyon

      Hiya Joel, from one ‘apostate’ to another, it’s great to have you back! I wondered where you’d got to! Brother King has proved from the bible when Jesus Christ comes back there’s gonna be a parting of the ways between the GB/WT and Jehovah. It’s like Brother King said in an article, if Satan wants Jehovah’s House, it’s gonna be, here have it its all yours! The GB will have had their marching orders and Satan can have the spoils. I try to remember Psl146:3 when they’re spouting their propaganda.

      • Joel Sherrod

        Thank you so much Beverly!

    • 1914for100Alex

      Welcome back Joel. Good to have you 🙂

      • Joel Sherrod

        Thank you Alex.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      The Idolization of ‘Jehovah’s Visible Organization’ | The Watchman’s …

      https://e-watchman.com/search_gcse/?q=calf

      • Joel Sherrod

        Thank you BK. I will definitely check out the link.

      • Leonard k

        at my study today these cardboard cut outs were brought up the elder told me they are using these things to appeal to children that it is being used as tool to reach them. I sat back in shock and I did bring up being no part of this world but it was kind of shrugged off and quickly explained away but the truth is the scriptures are very clear this would not be at all in keeping with jehova’s law and I know this so I just carefully let the subject go for now..

        • Joel Sherrod

          More cult-like trappings. more mind control. What a shane

          • Leonard k

            no not quite you see I have the benefit of first learning the real truth before starting my studies. also I don’t think that leaving the watchtower and leaving your spiritual brothers and sisters is the answer no but instead we must endure all and insight to love not hate and confusion and I will try and plant as many seeds as possible and the only mind control I have is my own used with the power of reason and love.

            • sally

              I wish you well in your studies Leonard, it will be hard as you will be learning about 1914 for starters! but what I did before I resumed my study yesterday is pray to Jehovah to give me wisdom and ability to cope with my study. It was not easy but I did it and am having another next week plus going to the meeting on Sunday. It is just really nice to know we can run back here afterwards!

            • Leonard k

              I wish you all the very best in your studies and I know you are doing the right thing. yes you and I know it will be hard as you have said this false 1914 doctrine is a bit much to deal with but know this if you and I feel we were directed by Jehovah to the bible studies then also have faith that when these matters like 1914 come out Jehovah can and will make the way out. I know Jehovah does everything with good reason and he has directed us back to our studies and maybe that is so we can help others as well I can not be sure but the one thing I am sure about is Jehovah gives us what we need and many times we don’t even know that we need it. so take everything with a grain of salt and be cautious let nothing shake your god given reasoning powers and most of all no matter what our out comes maybe we should always keep our faith intact. please let me know how your studies are going and if theres anything I can help with please just ask.

            • Burt Reynolds

              You are going to kept fit with all that running!

        • Sam

          It takes a lot of humility to subject yourself to a study knowing what you know. Having your teachers be so blind as to things like these. Well done for not letting that hinder you…you have my respect bro

          • Leonard k

            thank you very much and yes I’m sure at times it will be hard knowing what I know but that’s the point become baptized and endure because the most important thing here is to plant seeds.

            • Sam

              Absolutely, i wish you all the best! We need more awake bros and sisters in the halls with us 🙂

            • Volcanic

              Sally needs to read your comments, Leonard

            • Leonard k

              please by all means I hope it can be of help thank you.

        • Beverly kenyon

          Leonard k, amazing self control! Will remember that example if faced with similar situation.

          • Leonard k

            its the only logical move for me. I know many faithful brothers and sisters are suffering under a cap of lies and control how else better to try and help them because the important things here are enduring and remaining faithful and maybe something I might say could help them but again planting seeds and Jehovah will make them grow.

            1 Corinthians 3:6

            6 I planted, A·polʹlos watered, but God kept making it grow,

            • Beverly kenyon

              That is so true Leonard. I’ve just spent a while on the phone to a friend of mine who’s studying but is feeling pressured into getting baptised and going on the ministry. Similar to Sally’s story but my friend suffers from bipolar, but he’s stable now and has been for two years now thanks to his study and love for Jehovah. He was brought up in the truth by his single mother, she died faithful a few years back. He has a very notorious background and was very well known and still is for it. I’ve told him some of what I’ve learned here and he feels a bit less stressed about being pressured about being baptised before he feels ready. Because of his background I know he won’t dob me in to who he studies with! Phew! I’ve remembered Sister Thinking and Hannah’s advice. Keep Schtumn! Personally I think it’s irresponsible to pressure someone who’s crippled with a severe mental illness. I think they think just because he looks okay and talks okay then he’s fine but that’s not strictly true. I wish I could tell you more of his background so you can get a clearer picture of him but that would be unwise of me. Like you said Leonard, Jehovah will keep making him grow spiritually. He also told me that when his mum was still alive he noticed how they revered the Society and how he even fell out with a witness friend of hers when he called her out for doing that…she didn’t like it and stopped talking to him for ages but she okay with him now.

            • Leonard k

              pushing a person when they are not ready and I’m some what shocked that the watchtower would do that but as we all know things in the watchtower has changed. that’s a hard situation I can just emagine how your friend feels but tell him this. no matter what happens within the watchtower or in his personal situation always pray to our heavenly father put his burden on his shoulders for our heavenly father knows his needs before he does. always keep n seeking the kingdom first and all other things will be added to you. live not on every utterance from the mouth of the G/B but only on every utterance out of the mouth of Jehovah. put Jehovah first in all things and Jehovah will find him in favor.

              Matthew 6:33

              33 “Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.

              Matthew 4:4

              4 But he answered: “It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’”

              Ephesians 4:22

              22 You were taught to put away the old personality that conforms to your former course of conduct and that is being corrupted according to its deceptive desires.

              Ephesians 4:24

              24 and should put on the new personality that was created according to God’s will in true righteousness and loyalty.

              Ephesians 6:11

              11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil;

            • Beverly kenyon

              That’s fantastic Leonard K. What I’m going to do is copy that post out, tell him I told a witness (you) about his situation and the witness (you) put forward those scriptures to read and think about and gave some advice. Being in his situation and stressing about it is bad enough but coupled with a severe mental illness just makes it all the more worse. Can’t wait to do that. Thanks Leonard. Jehovah must’ve read his heart and his anguish and sent him help…well that’s how I like to view it.

            • Leonard k

              I am sure Jehovah will rescue your friend our faith is of the upmost importance it is paramount.

              Mark 11:22

              22 In reply Jesus said to them: “Have faith in God.

              Matthew 21:22

              22 And all the things you ask in prayer, having faith, you will receive.”

              Luke 8:50

              50 On hearing this, Jesus answered him: “Have no fear, only have faith, and she will be saved.”

              Romans 3:22

              22 yes, God’s righteousness through the faith in Jesus Christ, for all those having faith. For there is no distinction.

            • Burt Reynolds

              People with mental difficulties need understanding and support. An invisible illness is always overlooked and minimised. Being in the watchtower your friend will need profound support, especially with the contradictions. He/she is lucky to have you.

            • Beverly kenyon

              But Burt, they’re not mental health workers, they’re not trained up. And it’s ironic really, the witness he studies with, her brother has a mental health illness. My friend has done amazing, rarely misses a meeting and has been going for two years now diligently. He hasn’t had a psychotic break for a long time which is good as usually the police turn up with guns and vans and lots of them to section him…they do that because of his fierce reputation and his affiliations from the past which he gave up to the amazement to the people of that world he lived in. I think he’s also more scared of answering up at the meetings which they keep wittering on about to him…so more pressure! Doing that really terrifies him (which is weird considering his reputation), as he’s naturally shy outside of what he used to know..his nickname was Mouse, so that gives you a clue in itself. Leonard K sent that brilliant post along with relevant scriptures to back it up and I will be passing that on to him for some moral support and to help alleviate some of his anxiety…as the pressure is really playing on his mind.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Oh I know. I wasn’t suggesting that they were. Far from it on some occasions. I was simply referring to the fact that some people with mental health conditions have a perception that is different to people who are assumed not to have a mental health condition. Those of us who are assumed not to, assume that which we experience is ‘normal’. I’m not convinced that it a.ways is. My son has a severe MH illness and is picked up by the police on a regular basis. They don’t normally carry guns in England, but they hurt him and handcuff him wrist and elbows and haul him off face down. He’s a paranoid schizophrenic and regularly goes through religious experiences. He is in a Muslim frame of mind right now and was touching on JWs recently and got hauled off into the evangelists some years ago who really caused him problems. Apparently if you don’t put your hands in the air in praise you are ‘weak’. But yes, people perceive pressures from events or requests that we are totally unaware of and it is this that I was referring to. It is strange that we are expected to conform to the expectation of others when in fact our relationship is a personal one with Jehovah and whom reads the heart.

            • Beverly kenyon

              I felt very sad reading about your son…and it really upset me to read how they go full force when they pick him up…he’s vulnerable, doesn’t understand why they’ve got a grip of him and must feel frightened even though he’s locked in his world at the time and it’s not fault, he can’t help it…it’s heartbreaking. I can imagine the police don’t carry guns where you live because it sounds absolutely lovely but I can tell you they definitely carry them where I live…only Wednesday gone my friend had to drop to the floor on the petrol forecourt because the police had cornered a car and the driver and drew their guns on him and she’s just an ordinary woman minding her own business…the police apologised afterwards for scaring her to death…Manchester was called Gunchester because of the gang warfare and my friend was actively involved in that world hence when they came to get him it would be with full force. I like the point you make at the end of your post and will also mention that point to him tomorrow when I give him a lift to the KH as I think that’s really relevant to his situation.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Yes, I think I would have said something. Keeping a dignified silence has not been gifted to me.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Lol. But Burt you can get away with it if you did speak up because you have a way with words!

            • 1914for100Alex

              And sometimes there’s nothing wrong with that 🙂

              Proverbs 31:8 Speak up in behalf of the speechless;
              Defend the rights of all who are perishing.
              9 Speak up and judge righteously;
              Defend the rights of the lowly and the poor.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Funny you should quote that 1914. That was my job as a social worker, defending the rights of the lowly and the poor. It proved to me one scripture….you always have the poor with you……..and why.

            • 1914for100Alex

              I’ll bet you were one of the best social workers they had, too.

            • sally

              Hey Burt! Social Work is my profession also! Although I have taken a slightly different role in the past year, after 14 years front line child protection. It took its toll.

            • Burt Reynolds

              I was in disability, then child protection, then older people then became one! Then they ruined it all by exchanging the social work for paper work and things really got bad. I could spend a couple of hours with the client and then a couple of days writing about it. I know what you mean about burn out. I only managed five years in children and families. Disability was best. You could change lives. Are you in the States or Blighty ?

            • sally

              I am in Blighty and your right the paperwork became the overbidding factor. And repetitive paperwork to! I changed jobs but still find the paperwork overwhelming and most unnecessary so its not just a local authority thing. I would like a job on a supermarket checkout to be truthful. I don’t want the responsibility or hassle anymore. Way to much politics involved and things are getting worse and worse. I now know I am not gonna make anything better!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Sally, I was torn in half to retire. I wanted to stay but wanted to run away too. In the end I thought it best to let someone else trying to fix the unfixable. I have just got my garage turned into a workplace for me and I’m going to fix my house up ready for the tribulation to destroy. Gallows humour. I think working a checkout is a good idea but with your skills, counselling is always a good option or supervising a care agency. It’s a small world isn’t it but it must be far easier for you to see the current problems the watchtower has and to be able to put this into a good perspective balance with what you see and read here. The watchtower sounds a bit like a clint Eastwood film at present….The Good, the bad, and the ugly ! Keep your eyes on the good as you wend your way through this spiritual paradox as Ali puts it. You can contact me on Facebook if you want under Groke Goddard.

    • Sam

      Glad you survived it! True it can be convincing… it’s designed to be so. They intentionally connect your loyalty to Jehovah and the org as one and the same. Don’t be fooled, loyalty to Jehovah does not mean covering over the WT’s misdeeds and ignoring scriptural truth for their self serving interpretations. It definitely didn’t in the past when the leadership of God’s people practiced corruptness, it doesn’t now. Please Jehovah let the delusion end soon

      • Joel Sherrod

        You are right in saying I “survived” it. I tell ya Sam, I thought I was a gonner when Sunday’s session was nearing its end. And that sentimental brain-washing hypnotic music, oh, it just tore me up! But here I am! With you once again. I AM A JW CONVENTION SURVIVOR! Whew!

        • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

          Nice to “see” you here again. Seriously…you really thought you needed to stay awake from this site as a result of the convention? The hard core emphasis on shunning made me want to walk out Friday morning. Nice to read your comments and welcome back to the paradox!

          • Joel Sherrod

            Yep! It got to me “just a little bit, just a little bit.” That was my Robert Deniro impression. Ha! Not good, I know.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Paradox. You got that right sister!

        • reminds me about how Jehovah refers to himself as a husband to his people. similar feelings

        • I was wondering just the other day, were o were is our windy city brother. Welcome back!!

          • Joel Sherrod

            Thank you Joe. I cherish your thoughts and quick wit. I hope to meet you in person one day . . .and ALL of us E-Watchman devotees. What a day that will be, right?

            • Funny you say that because I had a dream the other night that we all got together at brother Kings for a picnic of sorts. It was awesome, but when my alarm clock rudely woke me up I thought ” man that guy got a lot of grass to mow & wow were those some awesome fruit trees in his yard or what”
              Hahaha fun how the mind works! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f70a5ad53d5f51e6e8603b9bf51ce65d9b252a7e1a3b300bda4c4c028ca1269a.jpg

            • Burt Reynolds

              Alarm clocks and contracts! I’m glad I’m retired. I haven’t had to sign my name for over two years now! I’m just sitting here with the dog keeping my feet warm, and a cup of tea.

            • Joel Sherrod

              Lol! Very good Joe!

      • Hello My Brother Sam,
        Hope your doing well, the assembly reminds me of a big ol hamburger bun of love and goodness but no meat ! We have to go visit Robert and our Bible for “THE BEEF”!! (Little Sunday morning humor)

        https://youtu.be/Ug75diEyiA0

        • Sam

          thanks for the laugh my bro, it’s good to see the funny side. We can always count on you for that ;D Very good comparison, but just lately is seems to be more vomit inducing with all the “remain loyal” garb. Any who sat through todays watchtower for example without cringing into oblivion should be given a medal. I don’t know what they’re putting in the “bread” but i think i need to spend the rest of the day detoxing 😛

          • They altered the wheat, with hybrid GMO, and in turn you now have a big glob of glutton .
            Inside the congregation & your bread box!

            • They also teach that we cannot enjoy a relationship with Jehovah apart from the governing body: “We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of ‘the faithful and discreet slave,’ we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it. (Matt. 24:45-47)”. The same Watchtower says further: “The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ.” (September 15, 2010 Study Watchtower) Another article declared: “It is vital that we. . . respond to the directions of the ‘slave’ as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.” —Watchtower 6/15/1957, p. 370, JEHOVAH’S CHANNEL OF COMMUNICATION.

              Compare the above Watchtower statements with Jesus’ own words: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) Also note the apostle Peter’s statement regarding the uniqueness of Jesus’ position: “There is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Acts 4:12) The governing body should be teaching God’s people to obey Jehovah’s command, “Don’t put your trust in human leaders. Don’t trust in people. They can’t save you.” —Psalms 146:3,

          • sally

            I went to the meeting today. It was difficult, I was angry throughout most of it. I can’t stop being angry. I prayed to Jehovah before I went in, I hope I managed it in a way he approves of. The public talk made me angry today, whereas its usually just the Watchtower study that has me bemused, as it has done from the first time I went actually. The elder talked about something on the tv the previous night about a woman who lost everything in a hurricane. She was sitting on a side path, with her children she had no food or shelter she had lost literally everything. He talked about what if we were there what would we do? He then went on to explain that for the most, there is no hope but we would (if we were there) be able to tell her the good news and offer her hope. He then finished saying wouldn’t that be amazing to be able to tell someone who has lost everything of the hope! There was no mention of anything else, like trying to find shelter, feed her kids, clothing anything. Simply walk up to someone in that state and tell them the good news! I am sorry I don’t get it. Is that really the only thing a Jehovah Witness would do if they came across such a person? I could simply not imagine doing just that. Is that Christian?!! sorry I am ranting here, I just did not understand the reason for this in the talk. The Watchtower featured “jim” and elder who did not agree with the other 5 elders in his congregation about how they were dealing with a matter. It was described only as he felt they were not very “loving”. He left the congregation for 10 whole years before going to another and finally being reinstated as an elder. The answers given were relating to Jim humbling himself to his being wrong. Maybe he wasn’t. What did the other 5 do that was not “loving”? maybe he was right and the others towed the corporate line. I guess we will never know the answers or what made Jim decide to return after so many years and become an elder again. All I know is that again this did not sit right with me especially the answers from the congregation being that he realised the error of his ways. There seems to be no possibility that this man, could have been upset enough to actually leave because they were wrong in dealing with a matter. There was other issues from today as well that disturbed me but I will leave it there. This is going to be so hard but I am determined to go regularly and try to take away the good bits rather than focus on the not so good.

            • Sam

              You’re totally right Sally. It’s just the typical “keep warm and well fed” shtick that James 2:15,16 warns of. Can you imagine if in the illustration Jesus gave of the good Samaritan he merely gave the beaten man a watchtower magazine and arranged to call back to talk about the promised future? Obviously true love involves caring for people on whatever level they need…Jesus took care of the physical needs of those he spoke to BEFORE preaching to him. And I had the exact same thought as you on brother jim mentioned in the WT. It shows to me just how brazen the org is in making sure that the arrangement is never questioned, it is always the fault of the person stumbled… never the ones doing the stumbling. Try your best to just focus on the good as you mentioned…and try to focus on being with the cong and being a good Christian toward them, it will help you forget about all the insignificant things. Once you’ve attended the meeting you can know that you’ve done right and can then leave all the baggage at the hall and enjoy the rest of your day. Thats what ive learnt to do.. not dwell on everything that was said. Sometimes just something as simple as putting your thoughts into writing like on here can help release the load. You’re doing well to keep determined and keep going. We’re in the fight together, give yourself a pat on the back. Not much longer to go, Jehovah willing 😀

            • sally

              Thank you Sam for listening to my rant (I do feel better for it though!) and your words of encouragement. I am glad i am not the only one that held a view different to those in the congregation in respect of “jim”. You summarize it perfectly, in that its just lessons for the masses never to question the party line. That is just so dangerous. Jehovah gave us brains and a heart and a capacity to use them did he not? Yet all I saw was a uniformed response that was to agree with the Watchtower’s summary of the incident. Its almost like a warning being put out to everyone, don’t question us, just do as we say sort of thing. Things are getting more and more clear to me and I am just so glad I am here. They could very well chase of lots of new comers to the truth with how it is run. I wasn’t far off it myself. I just read James 2:15 16 and yes that is the perfect scripture! A simple principle surely? but one that seems to go over lots of peoples heads.

            • Sam

              Likewise! I don’t know about you, but sometimes it can drive me a bit crazy being the only one disagreeing and you can start to question your sanity lol It’s just getting worse, but i’m convinced that the clamping down is by design of Satan and the man of lawlessness. The stage is set for when all breaks loose, and everyone will be urged to stay loyal to the org despite their prophecy frame work falling apart in front of their eyes when Christ actually returns….and i can see many becoming very hardened in following the org. Glad Jehovah led us here! And glad you didn’t lose your way…if you need to rant anytime, i’m all ears…or eyes 😛

    • Volcanic

      Hey, Mr Sherrod, welcome back. Somebody go get that fatted calf out of the barn please & fire up the grill…we gonna have a reunion tonight

      • Joel Sherrod

        Ha ha ha! Very good Volcanic! And thank you so much!

        • Joel Sherrod

          By the way Volcanic . . . you can just call me Joel. Unlike the titles the Governing Body has reserved for themselves; I am humble. No “Mister” for me! Just plain old Joel.

          • Volcanic

            what, no titles, Joel??? Now I am totally disillusioned by all these apostates here :'(

            • Joel Sherrod

              You are something else! Lol!

    • ewatchman

      I gotta be honest too. Since I have been attending meetings fairly regularly, since the last Memorial, the last meeting I attended a few days ago a feeling of nostalgia and loss swept over me. The coordinator had already encouraged me to apply for re-instatement (He doesn’t know my story) and I started thinking, maybe I ought to. It’d be nice to talk to some friends once in awhile. All I’d have to do is shut down this website and take the book offline and I could be back in good standing.

      But, I quickly snapped out of it. ;~)

      • Joel Sherrod

        Wow! Interesting. I tell you Brother King, we all love Jehovah and His Son, our Lord, our Master, and our Savior, Jesus Christ. I know we do. And we appreciate that he has used the WT Society to perform the Great commission, to preach the Good News of the Kingdom. No other religion in the history of mankind can even come close. But the arrogance of the WTS is without equal.

        • Joel Sherrod

          Hey Brother King. I was just thinking . . . do you think that the older, and first group of Governing Body Members, I mean like Russell, Rutherford, knorr, Fred Franz, Grant Suiter, Milton Henshal, George Gangas, etc., do you think that they may have been the real “Faithful and discreet Slave, and the current younger crop of members are in fact the ” evil Slave ” that ‘beats their brothers? Just a thought . . . what do you think?

          • LW
          • Just my opinion, but the evil slave started with judge Rutherford

            • Joel Sherrod

              But what about all the good that Brother Knorr did? Like starting the theocratic Ministry School, and Gilead. Also under his and Brother Franz’s reign, the Watchtower Society grew and prospered.

            • There not all bad, just certain ones, The governing body members have elevated themselves within God’s household over God’s people, and “dominate them.” They have publicly shown themselves to be a “god” by the authority they have claimed for themselves, and by presenting their teachings as equal in authority to God’s Word, considering their publications as official as the Bible itself. (Matt. 23:2-4)

            • Joel Sherrod

              So true Joe.

            • Burt Reynolds

              One might think so, but what message was it they were sending out? Theirs of Jehovah’s? I suppose we will never know their true motive.

            • Kevin b

              You got that right.

            • Hello Brother KB, I haven’t forgotten about you. I’m sure your just as swamped as me with contracts and deadlines. But soon will meet up for a cold one brother!??

            • Burt Reynolds

              Have a frosty one on me! They only serve warm beer in England.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              I’m not sure about that. Paul had spoken about the “superfine” imposters in his day as well as Jude had spoken about it in his area. What about the Corinthians? 2 Thessalonians 2:7, True, the mystery of this lawlessness is ALREADY AT WORK….It sounds like this has been an on going thing for a while. Just sayin!

            • True, Satan has been trying to throw his big fat monkey wrench into Gods plans since day one. And he will continue to try all the way to the end. Can’t wait to we all can say good riddance.

              https://youtu.be/oWCxvoA_LqI

          • These men, particularly Judge Rutherford, produced numerous books, including prophecies that they expected God to fulfill. (compare Ezek. 13:6) But Jehovah did not support them, he did not act on their visions; thus many of their prophecies failed to come true. These are now part of the record they have made for themselves. Thus, many stumbled and left God’s household, with some even claiming that God doesn’t have one. But it was not Jehovah’s fault. He was merely permitting this “as a retribution” because “they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.” —2 Thess. 2:10, 12
            Rutherford instituted that every member in the congregation was now required to report his activity in the preaching work on a monthly basis, which reports were forwarded to the appropriate branch offices. Records started to be kept for every “publisher,” which would be reviewed by the travelling servants when they visited the congregations.

            For many decades monthly reports for the congregation were even posted at the front of the meeting place for all to either admire or be shamed by. On the basis of his personal record a person might be recommended to a position of oversight. Compare this with what Jesus said about our “gifts of mercy,” that the preaching work is often compared to: “But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, that your gifts of mercy may be in secret; then your Father who is looking on in secret will repay you.” (Matt. 6:3,4)

            • Cate

              Reminds me of
              2 Samuel 24,
              “The anger of Jehovah again blazed against Israel when one incited David against them, saying: “Go, take a count of Israel and Judah.””

      • Daisy

        We’re your friends now & you can always talk to us. As you do, every day through your outstanding, impressive, excellent writings. All you say is greatly appreciated because we all love you.
        “Good standing” lol.

        • Joel Sherrod

          Here, here!

        • Burt Reynolds

          Keep strong Daisy. I hope all went well for you today. Sleep easy. Jehovah watches over you. X

          • Daisy

            Yes. All went well Burt my friend but, easy tiger! We know all about nostalgia, that sentimental longing for the past? Our minds tend to forget the rotten bits lol RK’s nostagia just made his tongue press in on his cheek…as honest as his moment of nostalgia lasted!

            • Leonard k

              the sad truth is if one was DFSHP and cut off shunned it can be very hard as I am sure that person has left many very loving faithful brothers and sisters behind. of course we will miss all those whom we love dearly and think back on those times and it can be enough to trigger a response like that after all we are only human but to get a better understanding and a clear prospective we should always turn to the scriptures for guidance.

              Jeremiah 17:9

              9 The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate. Who can know it?

              Hebrews 4:12

              12 For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.

              1 John 3:20

              20 regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things.

        • sally

          Hi Daisy I hope you are recovering from today. The sun is shining over the weekend so I hope you get to enjoy that much at least 🙂 take care and I will say a little prayer to Jehovah for you xx

        • Daisy

          Shikinah….Disqus pinged this morning at 2.35am, your post addressed to me regarding my comment above. I quote… Robert didn’t save anyone, he is being used by Jehovah to help guide us fully to know the one that saves us which is Jesus Christ, agape smiley face. Unquote.
          My meaning was in respect that the watchman has come to our aid, has come to our rescue, has saved our lives through Jehovah and Christ in the same way an expert would be brought in to save a club for example from bankruptcy.
          He would keep it safe or rescue it (from harm or danger) and reading through all the comments I find my use of the word ‘saved’ to not be out of sync as it wasn’t used in the biblical sense of being ‘saved’. P.s where have you been you’ve been gone some time?

          • Burt Reynolds

            People have to look past the messenger lest they attribute attributes beyond what is required and bring calamity to that one. You are right. Jehovah uses people for his purpose, but it is Jehovah that opens the door to salvation.

      • Joel Sherrod

        But since we all believe, including you, that Jehovah is indeed using you, guiding you by Holy spirit to preach as it were a ‘judgement message’ to the WTS; if that be true . . . how could you EVER go back!!?

        • Thinking

          Because the wheat is also there…would you refuse to sit at the table with the apostles because Judas was there also…is our faith so weak and lacking that we cannot discern the voices of the weeds..or indeed their actions.

          Did not Jesus and the apostles not attend the corrupt temple right up until Jehovah deemed it time to destroy and remove it.

          Did not Kaleb and Joshua have to wear the discipline of the Isralites even tho they themselves were faithful.

          Did not Anna the Prophettess attend that same corrupt temple all her days faithfull… and Jehovah rewarded her in seeing baby Jesus.

          Would you run of into the wilderness because a group of weeds amongst the Isralites and the second man in charge built a golden calf.

          Where did you learn your basics of the kingdom knowledge? Here on this site or any other site..another faith perhaps?…or was it the wheat that taught you…and now all you see is weeds???..why do you not see the wheat ??do you or anybody think the weeds are stronger…. than the wheat…who have Jehovahs backing …so in doubting the wheat..we thus doubt the strength and loyalty he has always displayed to his loyal ones..

          Has not the history written for our benifit showed that Jehovahs house ALWAYS becomes corrupt..and is always Disciplined by their Almighty God.

          Does anyone here think there are not brothers and sisters tho not knowing many things cannot discern the difference between worshipping the organization and Jehovah…..many do you know…so why leave them just because they have their say to their God in the quiet of night in their bedrooms..just because they do not speak up aloud..but instead follow the wise counsel in Proverbs 11:12

          Whoever is lacking good sense shows contempt for his neighbour .but the man of true discernment remains silent.

          When it is Jehovahs time to act..many will stand for Jehovah..and true many will not…but do any of us really know which ones..off course not..just like the disciples never had a clue as to who was the betrayer amongst them until he was uncovered by Jesus…

          I for one applaud Robert for attending his meeting..as everyone of you here should too…and no..he will never be reinstated …but just being there..means he will be more effective when it comes down.
          This site will certainly go down as with all religious sites…he needs to be amongst Jehovahs people…the need to SEE his faithfulness…
          As we ALL do…for are we not to serve our brothers in difficult times as well as good times…
          Joel my very dear brother…do not thro out the baby with the bath water..

          At the assembly you discerned when the weed were speaking..isn’t that good…appreciate that…learn and grow from it ….remember Jesus own wise words
          Do as they say but do not do as they do…

          It takes years to get a balance brother..tho I think it is a ever learning curve…we never really attain it do we..but just keep growing towards it.

          After a time…one gets to a point..where one thinks…okay…I can see the man of lawlessness..I see the error…I understand that these are fulfilling the prophecies….one has a cry..recovers from the shock…but then realizes..they just have to get on with it…step over the weeds and reach the sweet wheat….be there solid for our brothers and sisters…preach the good news…stay with in Gods house….keep strong..be faithfull …and await for him to return..just as the Isralites had to wait for Moses to come down of that mountain….it is doeable my brother ?

          Sis thinking

          • LW

            *slow clap

          • Shikinah

            I totally agree sister..

          • Burt Reynolds

            I agree with you. This is the only site that provides a biblical answer and explanation. I was wandering over the world via the Internet for years looking for the truth I found here. I was on the verge of giving up. All the ex JW sites I found were full of witnesses embittered, and a growing resentment against all witnesses, and speaking foul things about them. When I explained that they too were once witnesses, they didn’t want to know and they had nothing to offer by way of the truth. In their minds all witnesses still in the congregations are now evil mindless automatons. How unfair . They have thrown their faith and reasoning away along with their superficial understanding of what the watchtower has become. It is indeed sad. I can see Roberts reasoning to go back, but as yet, I cannot find Jehovah there at present and cannot find a reason. Jehovah’s word seems to reside here. But then, how will they know unless someone tells them, but then, some may say that they have to make their choice at the demise of the watchtower. It is difficult.

          • Beverly kenyon

            I’m joining in the ‘slow clap’ LW is right about that. That was so well put Sister Thinking but so gentle and humble at the same time.

            • Joel Sherrod

              Right on!

          • Song of Hannah

            Thank you for those scriptual comparisons! Helps etch the whole situation firmly in my mind. Love you Sis Thinking! ?

          • Joel Sherrod

            I hear you. Very poignant and thoughtful. Excellent reasoning. I will certainly consider your fine admonition.

          • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

            Whoop whoop! You expressed my feelings exactly! This is why I continue to go to meetings and prepare for them. There are good nuggets in the articles, I remind myself. That’s why I study with a black sharpie and a highlighter. Block out the garbage and focus on the good.

            Even this morning I was listening to song numbers 143 and 152 (and this is a little odd for me since I’m not a big fan of several of the songs) and I got a little emotional. Looking at the faces of the singing bethelites wondering if any of them are awake to the realities of their own literal house. I hope so. But if they are, it’s gotta be super hard.

            Thank you for your thorough, succinct comment sister Thinking!!!

            • Joel Sherrod

              Excellent reply Alexandra! Nice!

          • sally

            I am joining the slow clap club for this post to! It is a profoundly deep post and got me to think deep long and hard today. So thank you Sister Thinking as what you have written makes absolute sense.

          • Burt Reynolds

            I agree on your points sister Thinking. There is a need to minister to or with the wheat and emissaries are needed to take the word to the grains who do not want to remain unaware of the deception. Is that not the point of the final witness upon the world and before that even, to help others see clearly before it is too late . There is also the example, though perhaps oblique to your point, of the arguement over any righteous being left in Sodom, would Jehovah not spare the city. However, though truth can be taken into the congregation, the scriptures also point out that the prophet is not welcome even in his home city. Perhaps that is why Robert could not openly take these truths with him, were he to return, and the message would be deminished were he to do so. Besides which, Satan looks to crush all founts of the truth, wherever they may be found and one may be forgiven for thinking that the watchtower would welcome Robert and all of us apparent apostates, with open arms and the message we have, to crush it, but no. That is not the case. Therefore it is reasonable to think that some may have to shout from the outside, whilst others can preach from within with caution and innocence ‘ but at present, I cannot agree that this is possible or perhaps better to say, is affective. ‘I send you out as sheep amongst wolves…’ may indicate that there is an element of truth in this thought, but who they may be, I know not. Neither is it for me to say and I do not know if this site will be destroyed or even what purpose Jehovah may have with it. There is, or rather are, other forms of communication and one person in one congregation doth not a salvation make, so it may be reasonable to assume a greater presence and a far, far greater audience for those chosen ones and that the means of communication will be given them. So too I am not sure that there is not a different slant to Jehovah’s house always becoming corrupt. It does not; the house being his word. It is the people portraying it who become corrupt. That may be a play on words, but it gives pause as to why some may see weeds instead of wheat and no longer recognise from whence they came. The potential is great, but the draw of Satan almost overwhelming and it is going to take the tribulation for those who are wheat, to come to their senses…if they can. I have to admit that in all my years in attendance, I have been throughly deceived and what I have learnt, I learnt from the bible alone. As for Proverbs 11. I am not sure of the context being applicable to Joel’s thought because the scriptures put the responsibility on the hearer to check for themselves the truth of what they hear and as with the Boreans, to discuss it, to challenge. Thus the need for speach. The fact that few do discuss, or listen, or consider, is indicative of the power of Satan and those who still go on to speak out, invariably are thrown out, or recant. And who, on attending the meetings, knowing the truth, cannot speak out for to remain silent is to condone? I could send a representative if that was all required of me. And to go and yet to say nothing, then who would think me wise and fit to bear the word of God, to speak up only when the tribulation rises, or worse still, believe me when I said nothing before? Joel may misinterpret Roberts role as one of judgement upon the organisation when in fact he is a conduit and that the organisation condemns itself in the face of truth so channelled. Like you, I see many reasons to go back, if not even the demand to go back, but I do not yet see it as a cautious, silent attendance, rather as one of preaching as that is the command, not simply to hint cautiously, but to warn of the danger with such an urgency that if I did not, then Jehovah would command the very stones to speak out. And as yet, I cannot see that I would get past their assumed response to such an act, as here in England at least, they all stand up and applaud to drown out the speaker. Tell me more about what you think. I need more insight in this. It has vexed me quite a while now.

            • Thinking

              Hello Burt, your reply came to my email thru Discs…Joe has my email and you can always use that…I have made a personal decision today….to step back from sites no matter how good and no longer post…..you see I have this personal flaw that I become somewhat addicted and then I allow other ones to do all the hard work for me and I do not dig deep in personal study and rely on the Holy Spirit like I should…I guess it’s laziness on my part…and most don’t have this problem..but unfortunately I do..
              The high light of my studies have been understanding a few scriptures…but Jehovah showed me these ….the wheat and the weeds being one…… long before I met Robert or Perimeno.
              I want to experience that again…Jehovah willing of course…
              At the time i was in the greatest of anguish …and had stumbled and was inactive..it took many many deep prayers..along with many hours of reading the scriptures…I want to experience that again…I have learnt so much here over the many years….it’s actually been quiet a few …

              Your view is different to mine at this stage anyway….who am I to preach to the wheat..they are already wheat..Jehovah already counts them worthy.
              As it all unfolds Jehovah will open their eyes as he did me…and you..
              I have no wish to stumble a wheat like person if their time is not right for them ….and I cannot discern that..
              Yet I can be there if a stumbled one is ready to walk away …IF..and only IF I feel I am being directed by Jehovah to do so..
              Also Jehovah does use the weeds to…as you say..he will make the stones cry out if he needs to…
              I pray you all stay strong….as time seems to be short…
              I’m sorry you are vexed over this Burt ..but the helper will ..certainly help you with this….I was vexed to once..over going back…..as we all were ….I am also sorry about your son …I understand more than you realize …I lost my boy to such a thing ..so a big hug to you ..from one parent to another…
              Just yell out to Joe if you wish my email….that invitation is open to all……all the best to you and every one here…and thank you for your fine companionship…and wonderful encouragement…

              Sis thinking xxxooo

            • Burt Reynolds

              It is my own personal view sister, but I think you are mistaken to withdraw. Why do you feel your arguements are somehow a neglect of your study? Im sorry if I have said something out of turn but that was not my intention, it’s just that What Joel said had value and was an interesting point of discussion as he shares it with others here. This site teaches me so much, your points along with everyone else’s and it supplies so much personal study that I have been at my bible for days on end. It’s a joy, a place of learning and I hope you don’t go and fall silent.

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              Brother Burt…I made an attempt to be outspoken and meet with the local elders to discuss the organizations “follies”, to put it nicely…I supposed that I put up a valiant effort in handling the truth rightly…I was merely met with a condescending attitute and I felt patronized…I made an effort to rejoin the fold..”cautious as serpent” but I guess being as “bold as a lion” is not an acceptable quality…My mild appearance of facial hair was more the focal point than any serious discussion of bible truth…I was even turn told “Do you feel better?”, after a personal discussion that I had at an elders home…his wife was less than hospitable after obviously eavesdropping our private conversation…I was met with her fallen countenance when leaving, gone her cheerful smile..lol…maybe that is a bonus in her hearing the truth as well..idk….My point and personal experience is that I will have to “shout outside” at the top of my lungs in hopes that they hear…I may not be the “innocent dove” but the lion by personality…Whatever the case I do so with the pure and righteous intention of the heart, to speak Jehovah’s truth no matter the consequence…Everyone must make a choice (I always promote staying with Jehovah’s people)

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              I won’t give up, because I love them!

            • Burt Reynolds

              I wish I knew what and how to make a move along these lines. The way forward for me is not clear, and it’s purpose even less so. It’s seems at times a choice of stay with Jehovah’s people or stay with his word. I’m not sure what I can offer in the congregation if I cannot speak out and discuss. It’s difficult.

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              I’d say that you can offer the presence of a loving brother….the time will come for you to speak, if at the present you remain silent…
              I do not attend meetings regularly, but, after presenting the elders with e-watchman material, I am a marked man..smh….I’ve been exposed as an evil “apostate” who dare question unscriptural teachings…I still make my presence known…I mail Brother King’s material regularly, whether they toss it in the trash bin, thats their choice…I am not disfellowshipped but even if I were, I would not be detoured…Brother Burt, I would never have considered my actions in the past,but, I love Jehovah and his truth more than any punishment from men.. we can all find something to contribute, even in a small way…I know its difficult, so glad to associate with persons as yourself, it encourages me!

            • 1914for100Alex

              You’re not alone. I know for sure that I could never go back. For one, I’ve been gone for so long that I’d forgotten a lot of what we were taught. I consider that a blessing because I was able to take another look years later at what those teachings were, and it felt so wrong. I kept reading it and I thought “this makes absolutely no sense”. I admire those that can make it work, but I’m not one of those people. It would drive me insane. I’m not one to bite my tongue. Should I ever step foot in a KH again I expect it would be along the lines of “Alright people, listen up! This is how it is…” Maybe that will happen, but in the meantime this is my KH, and I love the congregation here!

      • Leonard k

        thank Jehovah his holy spirit is with you Robert and I know you could never become like the watchtower and sweep the truth always no your heart is truly with Jehovah and he is with you.

        oshua 1:9

        9 Have I not commanded you? Be courageous and strong. Do not be struck with terror or fear, for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go.”

        1 Corinthians 10:13

        13 No temptation has come upon you except what is common to men. But God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out so that you may be able to endure it.
        and look Jehovah made the way out for you. :>)

      • 1914for100Alex

        Actually seeing that in writing, by you, really helps put the “beaten in the synagogues” scripture into perspective. As in, now it’s personal. We “know” you, and you know what you’re in for. Really hope you can help some people out there before you get run out.

        • Leonard k

          I think Robert with jehovah’s blessing has already helped many 🙂

          • Craig

            Hi Leonard, I for one can testify to that. My disillusionment led me to question and examine everything I thought I knew, and although there is no lack of information available I was still at a loss as to what it all meant.
            By this point I had all but given up, my faith was in tatters and it felt like the world was doing all it could to steal me away. I wanted so bad to return to Jehovah and his people but there was still something missing.
            There was one thing I read that made sense and when I searched for it I ended up here.
            My faith has now been restored, and it now feels like my beliefs have a solid foundation.
            I thank our God Jehovah and all of you who have unknowingly helped me.

            • Leonard k

              Jehovah saw your heart and knew your needs brother and he led you here. I am very happy to hear that you did not give up the world can be a place of terror and doubt even with in the watchtower G/B and in our own families but you endured and Jehovah made the way out for you. I am in awe when I hear people tell me of such things because Jehovah in his infinite mercy and undeserved love and kindness is just and based on a love we can not understand. bravo brother bravo.

            • Burt Reynolds

              That is my experience too.

            • 1914for100Alex

              I think all of us can relate in one way or another. The running theme seems to be that we knew something was off and our searches led us here. Once we found this site, everything clicked. Finally. I want everyone here to remember that feeling they had once we’re put to the test. Our beliefs are going to be questioned. We’re going to see things that make us question everything we know. We’re going to be made to feel guilty for denying the false prophets and Christs.

              Matthew 24:
              23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ, or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.

              Based on some recent articles I’ve read here, as well as a conversation with Burt about how well Satan knows us, I have a feeling that because of this special knowledge we possess, we might be targeted even harder. Add in verse 24 of Matthew 24 where it’s mentioned that “if possible, even the chosen ones” (could be fooled), it’s almost a certainty. And if tricking us doesn’t work, he’s not going to give up there. Things could get real ugly. Like Frankie the weather guy says, “BE PREPARED!”

              Another good example is Joel. No, not the Joel in the Bible. Joel S. from Chicago with the first comment on this page. He mentions how he thought about not coming back here after the .org tugged at his loyalty strings. That’s going to happen to us, probably times 10 once the Tribulation starts. Who knows? Maybe we’ll even come face to face with fake Jesus. Think of the guilt trip he’d put you on!

              This of course raises the question of which version/s of Jesus is going to be out there? Obviously we’re not going to get Baby Jesus, but the Bible mentions “false Christs”, as in plural. No doubt the .org will have theirs, but what about the other religions? I can’t even begin to comprehend how all of this will look. We just have to be careful not to get caught up in the wonders.

            • LW

              Indeed. And you see all those paintings of Jesus as a frail looking man with long hair etc–that may very well be one of the appearances utilized in the final deception..

            • LW

              Indeed, and just to name one of those, in the New Age movement, they refer to “Sanada.” That actually is supposed to symbolize Jesus, and yes they have their own supposed archangel as well.
              http://www.sherryshriner.com/sananda2.htm

              We really will need to have faith made of steel to face what’s coming in that regard.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7be8184cb59a5be98e538e5d7d98b8ac99bd1998ac044d296aeb26e02d3ba42d.png

            • 1914for100Alex

              Looks like we’re on the same page. Here’s what I was typing when you posted your comment:

              Agreed. And let’s not forget the other non-Christian religions, and what they expect to happen. I don’t know if it’s been discussed here, but for those that are unaware, Islam also teaches about the return of Jesus. In their version, he returns after a deceiver claiming to be God (which is the same as Jesus to many Christians) appears on the scene.

              The Jews are also waiting on their messiah (note; not Jesus, but “false Christ” could fit the definition of messiah). They have a specific list of things that need to take place, but I don’t see why they couldn’t happen. If Satan engineered WW1 to trick people into believing the 1914 hoax, then why not this?

              So that’s three major religions, not to mention the various sects of each one, all waiting on their version of a messiah. Can we say convoluted mess boys and girls? Oh, and there’ll be plenty of other things to worry about while all this is happening.

            • He said to me: “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is sitting, mean people and crowds and nations and tongues. And the ten horns that you saw and the wild beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire. For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.

            • 1914for100Alex

              That’s some crazy stuff, but why not? Satan’s going to cover all the bases. May as well throw aliens into the mix lol.

            • LW

              Exactly…it’s gonna be one crazy blockbuster of events. It’ll be a night to DIE for…(lol)

      • Burt Reynolds

        I could hardly believe I read that! That you could be moved by gentle
        persuasion after what you have said and clearly been given insight to behold. Yes, the watchtower is representing Jehovah’s will at this time but it and probably the majority in it are soon to pass away. But If the truth does not reside here, then it does not reside anywhere, in my mind at least. The watchtower reeks with its filthy treatment of victims of abuse, it’s haughty treatment of the brothers and its blinding of them that will damn many of them to the grave. There is so much lying and meanness in this world that it stacks right up to heaven itself and how you could even pause to think of relinquishing what must clearly be the work of Jehovah for a minute is beyond my comprehension. Even if it is correct for the many to be within the congregation, one thing for sure is that this work you are charged with, if it be true, cannot be carried out from within the organisation and neither can it be carried into the watchtower for the way is barred by Satan. For one thing, you know full well that the truth cannot be sullied or stifled, deminished on the alter of the organisation where the disgusting thing will stand, and the other, is that if this is the case, the brothers and sisters here would be starved of the word of Jehovah. How can we carry the word of Jehovah into the watchtower if it is not out here. For certain it is not within and neither can it be found within. All that would be left is the stones themselves to cry out. And they will. Everyone here must have some idea of the work you do and the years of doing it and the weight, though light, though heavy, must be enough. But the honour is unspeakable and the reward moreso, yet I see here that the heart in moments off guard may speak in levity of the burden and wish for relief. Thus we see from the prophets of old and thus know that you have not been alone. Neither are you left alone. This begs the question then of how we may support you and help you at this time. Filial love is a two way thing. Take advantage of it maintain your strength to carry on.

        • perhaps Robert needed that experience as Jehovah may have wanted him to feel. it has a reall effect on people in some fashen

        • Volcanic

          beautiful!

      • Leonard k

        brother Robert I just wanted to take this time to thank you. because of you and all of your blessed efforts from Jehovah I’m able to start my studies with an accurate knowledge and a new found hope of moving forward with the truth. of course Jehovah has always been there for me first and for most but have a glad heart brother Robert in knowing that you have really helped me your dedication and love for Jehovah and the truth has really inspired me I just wanted you to know that. and thank you bklynkevin for always being there for me those long hours of bible study have really helped me thank you both and may Jehovah continue to be with you both and bless all of your wonderful efforts in teaching his word and his will.

      • Volcanic

        Volcanic nearly fainted when she read that!!! You can’t shut down this site anyway because Sally & I have just been chatting on FB & both said we were coming here now for our nightly meeting.

        Ooooh, what an ‘orrible thought!!

        • sally

          Lol yes this is our new Congregation! This site is our Kingdom Hall, where we meet with all our brothers and sisters! well I am not a sister as I am not yet Baptised but you get my drift 🙂

          • Leonard k

            I wanted to share this with all of you here on the ewatchman this scriptures warms my heart and strengthens my spirit.

            Matthew 18:20

            20 For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”

            • sally

              Wow that is a lovely comforting scripture for sure! Thanks Leonard!

            • Leonard k

              most people may take those words for granted but if you stop to think what it really means. just think we are here talking and learning of scripture and truth and jesus is with us. think about that for a minute. 🙂

            • Joel Sherrod

              . . .mmm. Good thought.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Joel do you have ‘Thinkings’s’ email please.

            • Volcanic

              Burt, if you go to her profile & scroll down quite a way you will see that she already publicly gave out her e-mail a while ago in one of her comments

            • Burt Reynolds

              Thanks.

            • Thinking

              Actually that was a major mistake on my behalf…I didn’t know ..comments made .on Disqs……were tied into this forum…I stumbled on Disqs accidentally and thought it was a quiet sort of forum ..I didn’t realise how it worked…..had no idea it would be made public here…and if I could I would remove it…

            • Joel Sherrod

              . . . and we are all certainly more than “two or three.”

            • Leonard k

              thanks to Jehova’s blessings brother Robert certainly has helped many many more. you know while at my study yesterday the elder really spent some time going over apostasy with me he said we should be very careful about what we read on line and I found that some what odd to kind of start a bible study with something like that? it really gave me the feeling that he had possibly checked me out on line or the watchtower G/B really feel threatened by brother Roberts work? I can not be sure but ether way I was with a glad heart because the first thing I thought about was brother Robert and how all of his blessed efforts ARE REACHING MANY. I must admit while I was sitting at that table I became frightened I don’t know why but when the elder brought up apostasy my fear went away I was ready to do battle and protect Roberts work and all the truth he has helped us all to have. I kind of sat right up in my chair and continued to look the elder in his eyes not flinching but he let the subject go and we continued our study. I know a verbal battle would not accomplish anything but a split and that is not why I was there but never the less I was ready. I will not let these things stand in my way if I become baptized then that is great! but if I become babtized and then possibly DFSPD then that is ok to I wont live in fear from the watchtower G/B the scriptures are clear.

              2 Corinthians 10:1

              10 Now I myself, Paul, appeal to you by the mildness and kindness of the Christ, lowly though I am when among you face-to-face, but bold toward you when absent.

              Chronicles 17:6

              6 His heart became bold in the ways of Jehovah, and he even removed the high places and the sacred poles from Judah.

              Acts 14:3

              3 So they spent considerable time speaking with boldness by the authority of Jehovah, who bore witness to the word of his undeserved kindness by allowing signs and wonders to be performed through them.
              of course I intend to be very careful and quiet stay under the radar but if it comes to budding heads with the elders I will not except a lie but only speak the truth.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              If you’ve already mentioned this site or Robert’s work to them then it may be likely that they have no intention of baptizing you, they’re simply using this time to fill out their time slips. Sounds like you mentioned alternative sources for bible knowledge….that’s a big no no!

            • Leonard k

              no of course I made no mention of Robert or his site I figured I was never asked so why say anything. besides even if Robert and the Ewatchman does come up I am not yet baptized therefore they can not DFSP ME nor can they turn me away because if they did wow I really don’t think that would sit well with Jehovah. I have been praying for direction asking Jehovah for help and this is where I am now so if indeed Jehovah has directed me like I am sure he has then I do not think I will have a hard time and if I do I can always go to the father and ask him for guidance and help. Jehovah has never ever failed me in any way so I trust in his direction fully aware of the stumbling blocks before me but lets read the scriptures.

              Matthew 18:7

              7 “Woe to the world because of the stumbling blocks! Of course, it is inevitable that stumbling blocks will come, but woe to the man through whom the stumbling block comes!

              1 Peter 2:8

              8 and “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were appointed.

              Romans 9:32

              32 For what reason? Because they pursued it, not by faith, but as by works. They stumbled over the “stone of stumbling”;

              Matthew 26:33

              33 But Peter, in response, said to him: “Although all the others are stumbled in connection with you, I will never be stumbled!”

              2 Chronicles 25:8

              8 But go by yourself, act, and be courageous in battle. Otherwise, the true God could cause you to stumble before an enemy, for God has the power to help and to cause stumbling.”

              James 3:2

              2 For we all stumble many times. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able to bridle also his whole body.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              That’s a very strange position your in Leonard. I hope it all works out for you if your intention is to get baptized. I personally don’t plan on getting beatin in the synagogue since I won’t be there, but definitely in a jail or FEMA camp somewhere. You know, if you ever needed a job you would probably make a good detective. I’m going to go ride my bicycle, it’s nice out. Peace

            • Leonard k

              I think your missing the point lol.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              No, I see where your coming from bud. I just don’t see how things can turn around in the congregations unless it comes from another source rather then human intervention. But have at it if you feel it’s the right thing to do for yourself. Not trying to discourage you either just sayin that the intended goal is futile on an individual basis.

            • Leonard k

              yes you are most undoubtable correct about that jesus will settle all matters but I think after all of Brother Roberts blessed efforts and all of his hard work that there must be more that that we all can do then just share the truth on line. I know that for some that is the only thing they can do but for me it would only be fair to try and do more because I can do more given my strange position. I think about my faithful brothers and sisters within the watchtower day and night so if it bothers me so much then I should just try even if I only reach one person then it does not matter what happens to me what matters is spreading Jehovah’s word and it is paramount for me personally to try and reach those who may be in pain. I was never baptized I did not feel or go through the kind of pain by being a victim of abuse or DFSHPD OR SHUNNED and Jehovah has already spared me the operation of error Jehovah most certainly has shown me his infinite undeserved mercy lobe and kindness and I can never repay him but I can try and do for some one else what he has done for me to reach out and share with all those whom might listen so they can see the father his with them and no matter what there situation is they need not be afraid and should not give or lose there faith. I want them to know how much Jehovah really does love them and has not Abandoned them nor will he if they remain faithful and endure. I have no idea how things will turn out my friend but I will never know if I do not try.

              Acts 20:24

              24 Nevertheless, I do not consider my own life of any importance to me, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to bear thorough witness to the good news of the undeserved kindness of God.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              1 Peter 4:8
              Above all things, have intense love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.
              1 Corinthians 13:
              7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
              13 Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love;
              but the greatest of these is “love”.
              8 A Love never fails.

            • Leonard k

              its funny you cited this scripture because I have had it on my mind since yesterday. i guess I had this scripture on my mind because I knew there would be some things at the watchtower that I could agree with but at the same time I needed to remember that as much as I was there to gain spiritual food I was there out of love for my spiritual brothers and sister.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Matthew 22:
              36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?
              37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah* your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul* and with your whole mind.
              38 This is the greatest and first commandment.
              39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’
              40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.

              Matthew 28
              Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
              20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

            • Leonard k

              some very powerful scriptures bet yes most important. if we base everything on this then we can truly say Jehovah is our rock.

              Psalm 18:31

              31 For who is a God besides Jehovah? And who is a rock except our God?

              1 Samuel 2:2

              2 There is no one holy like Jehovah, There is no one but you, And there is no rock like our God.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Trying to reach those in pain is where the trouble starts. I almost got df’d twice a few years back trying to help someone who was having various problems. It doesn’t seem to work that way right now, but later on down the road when the WT is struck down and the sheep are scattered then it will be a different game. It won’t matter at all, that’s the beauty of it.
              Hopefully you’ll be better at it then me, I was never good at keeping a secret, and I have a feeling your not good at it either, but like you said if you can reach one person without it backfiring on you then mission accomplished.

            • Leonard k

              well all I can do is try but or course I will follow Jehovah’s direction. and you make a good point about things maybe backfiring I have thought of this to so I will carry my self quiet like and if the opportunity should arise to help a brother or sister then I will very carefully proceed. I just returned from the sunday meeting it was a very nice talk appreciating jehova’h as our potter but at the beginning of that talk 1914 was talked about and right away I felt on crossed roads but I kept my mind about in peace and enjoyed the rest of the meeting.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              You could always walk outside when the 1914 topic comes up and get some fresh air. If an elder asks you what wrong, just tell him you felt a little dizzy and light headed.

            • Leonard k

              I’m sure Jehovah will make the way out but if I have to I will think of something. 🙂

            • Joe Dman

              I hear you Ed (toe). I’m expecting a visit from the WT police any time. I know I’ve read a couple of scriptures mentioning that it is not the time to speak of Jehovah, but I’m not sure of the context or it’s application but it could apply to us or even if it don’t, it seems we should not make ourselves a target. I’m sure if we had a more immediate purpose in coming to know this truth, it would be outlined in the scriptures and Robert would have revealed it if Jehovah had given him that insight. I just talked to an inactive brother and we plan to go to dinner soon. My purpose is to try to gauge why he doesn’t make it to the meetings and regardless, I’ll probably tell him what I know. I’m hoping he’ll see it and it’ll snowball and get to others in his family that I’ve wanted to talk to about it, but their defenses quickly go up when you start talking contrary to what they’ve been taught.
              I’m like Leonard K. in that if I could help one person to come to know Jehovah, I would give up my freedom of speech within the congregation but weighing the options, it’s probably better to wait for a time when it will be more clear what to do with this knowledge. So caution is the key.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Hi Joe, I know we haven’t formally met yet unless I’m mistaken. Making myself a target has always been a problem of mine, I’ve always rooted for the underdog, just me I guess, and It bothered me to see people go through the pain and agony of not being excepted into the fold for trivial reasons. I more then often thought that there was something more to the picture and fortunately I’ve found the answers here along with you and everyone else. Major blessing and a load taken off my shoulders, I’m sure you can relate.
              As far as meeting with your brother, It sounds like you have a good savvy way of starting the discussion at least, go easy on him or the walls will start to rise up around his head, and you have a good chance of revealing what’s been said here if he’s missing meetings obviously. It would be a fascinating event if more people started logging on here and it multiplied, maybe that’s in the works, that would be a trip, and I think your right about waiting for a more clear time to speak, it’s a little to heavy for the average JW to process and could lead to your publishers card being tainted as potential apostate, this seems to be my case within a 50 mile radius. Caution exactly, let me know how it went.

            • Leonard k

              I have been asking my self this very same question why did Jehovah allow me to know this and of course what do I do now? but here’s a scripture I would like to share with you.

              Matthew 25:1-46

              25 So I grew afraid and went and hid your talent in the ground. Here, you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him: ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you should have deposited my money* with the bankers, and on my coming I would have received it back with interest.
              28 “‘Therefore, take the talent away from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents.+ 29 For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.+ 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.’

            • Burt Reynolds

              Joe do you have ‘Thinking’s email?

            • Joe Dman

              Did you get her email? If not, email me at dmaninspection@gmail.com

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes, made contact thanks Joe.

            • Volcanic

              you do write some lovely things, Leonard, really up-building & faith strengthening

            • Leonard k

              thank you but that’s what we all need to do is contently incite one another to love building each other up we all need each other more then many of us realize.

              John 13:34

              34 I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.

            • Shikinah

              I love this scripture..

            • Leonard k

              isn’t that a lovely scripture. many of us just go over the scriptures to get our point and proof of gods word across to others BUT we should all take some time for our selves while reading it and really try and get a sense of the beauty of jehovah’s word.

            • Leonard k

              here’s another very powerful scripture we should all take time to absorb and after reading the first scripture read over the next and think about that and what it really means for all of us.

              Hebrews 4:12

              12 For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.

              John 3:16

              16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.

              examining the scriptures are a privilege a gift from Jehovah and we should all do everything in our power to show Jehovah our appreciation for this beautiful gift.

          • Joel Sherrod

            Very well said Sally. I agree whole heartedly.

          • Burt Reynolds

            You have a baptism of the heart.

            • Volcanic

              thank you for saying that to Sally, Burt, we were chatting about her baptism & she feels she is way off yet, but I reminded her that she has far more spiritual knowledge than her study sister. Great motivation for her xoxo

            • sally

              Thank you Burt for your kind comment. I do really want to get to the point of being Baptised, I just haven’t figured out yet how I am going to get there. I only got to know Jehovah early last year, and only got to this site a few weeks ago as you know, and I am still coming to terms with it. I read Leonard’s comments and are totally relate to him. I am feeling pressured and judged I have been “different” in the past few months, at first I was lapping it all up I couldn’t get the information fast enough. But…after a while I started to have concerns, NEVER about Jehovah, I believed very quickly but about people I was meeting in the congregation, my study and the organisation in general. I was feeling dreadful and it showed. Now I am in a position where I am convinced that this site is correct and I am trying very hard to make it not be by researching and reading and studying it like crazy. My study sister believes I am not being spiritual as I have avoided my study for over a month (I had one this week though) there was a tension and I am well aware of that. At first I just thought stay away for a while, but reading all your comments here and Thinking’s excellent post and Leonard’s equal predicament and the encouragement from Robert to keep going, and the scriptural evidence that backs this all up I am going to press ahead. Onward and upward as they say. I do not think for one moment it is going to be easy though. I have felt for a while that I am being pressured or dominated and I am not one to take kindly to that at the best of times. So I just pray to Jehovah and let him lead me. All of your comments and your careful picking through the scriptures as you do is invaluable to me at this time and I hope others who are in the state of shock that I have been in at coming here, are gaining strength to, and finding a way forward.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Sally, don’t worry at your rate of progress. Jehovah already knows your heart. He knows us ‘even before you were born’ as the scriptures tell us. He knows from the beginning, the end. That is why you have a baptism off the heart, because the love you have for what is right, and of your creator, you know is already apparent within you. No one person can teach you that, you can only grow in appreciation. Some put learning as a goal and it is indeed true that we need a teacher, but a teacher who has discernment. Not that your study teacher does not have discernment but his or her teaching can go no further than the limit and understanding of the watchtower while they remain tied, blindly to it. Here, we are blessed with looking beyond that, through that, and under it from the beginning as to its meaning and its conclusion. Indeed, if we believe, it is the very reasoning behind our existence and it is here for you to explore, freely and with genuine love and concern for your welfare. What helped me when I was wandering, was the creation. It does not need learning, but it teaches the full magnificience of the creator, and each spring, I used to make a study of the leaf buds of my walnut tree. From a bud, smaller than my thumb nail, would come, sometimes thirteen or more leaves, the size of the palm of my hand, and from the branch that came with them, four or even five walnuts and from the whole tree, hundreds would come forth in the abundent provision of Jehovah; and the scent of the leaves, the perfume of the nuts, the birds that would come and sit in my tree and clean the bugs away…all of it was a wonder of harmony and life. And the very leaves themselves, turned light into energy for itself and food for all manner of life, even when the leaves, they fell. Nothing was wasted. For me a lesson in the compactness and design of creation it became and from when I planted it, to when I left it, it was for me, the place where Jehovah still lived with me, a silent testimony that somewhere, He was to be found in person. And though out my life, I have never been a scholar of the scriptures as some here are, but I have been blessed with the sense of belonging, somewhere, in tandem with this spectacular creation of life. And this, is it not, what you too have? And so learn what you can from the witnesses and walk safely with them for the watchtower is crowded out with good people and true, but come here to drink life’s waters….free.

            • Joel Sherrod

              Excellent advice Burt. Sally, I could not have advised or encouraged you any better. Wow! We have some excellent writers on this site!

            • sally

              Thank you Bert for your words of wisdom. You know it has always been nature that has “pulled” me as well. Although, never ever religious in any way shape or form, I have always loved animals and appreciated nature and the complexities of our eco system that the idea of evolution just did not fit at all. In fact if people asked if I believed in God, I would say yes because I just cannot buy the evolution theory. And that was the extent of my “religiousness” if you like. Your wonderment at your walnut tree hit a nerve and made me remember why I got to be here now!

        • Burt Reynolds

          I felt the world drop out from under me.

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        Why does it have to be either or? Why don’t you just apply for reinstatement and keep the website up? You are not blaspheming Jehovah. You are very respectful of the organization where respect is warranted. You have helped many strugglers STAY in the organization. I’m one of them.

        • Leonard k

          I doubt they will reinstate brother Robert without telling him he must take his book off line and say he was wrong. of course we all know brother Robert can not and will not do that because brother Robert is correct its the watchtower G/B that has it all wrong.

          • Joel Sherrod

            Right on!

      • Schesssss, glad you snapped out of it. Though I might have to come up to Michigan and smack you back to reality!!
        Sweet Daisy’s comment sums it all up.

        • Joel Sherrod

          Ha ha ha! Lol! Good stuff Joe!

        • Burt Reynolds

          If you go, take me along with you Joseph. I’ll hold him for you!

      • Thinking

        You were missing what was good..the true love of good brothers and a companion ship that cannot be found anywhere else…I imagine soon we will all be in that boat soon…all witness world wide I mean…..but for now you are encouraging everybody to stay put..others may know who you are..or will eventually..they will be watching you and wondering ?..only good can come out of this ..stay strong my brother.
        Sis

      • Shikinah

        Hello my dear brother Robert, it’s a nice thought of you being reinstated, but shutting down your site, would leave many of the stumbled groping about in the dark, open to the snare which satan has set in place. Now that so much is being revealed with all these court cases, the more dissolusioned brothers they’ll be.. I for one found your group a refreshing oasis in a parched wilderness, so please if it’s Jehovah’s will continue to provide life giving water to those who are in desperate need..
        Agape ☺

      • Jehovah is fulfilling this scripture through you. “The lost one I shall search for, and the dispersed one I shall bring back, and the broken one I shall bandage and the ailing one I shall strengthen’ Ezek. 34) He is raising up a very small army of men and women that will be a the forefront of his fold when things go terribly wrong for the Watchtower. And all their training and teaching comes from this Bible based site.
        Thank you Jehovah and Jesus for brother King!

        • Burt Reynolds

          Yes, absolutely. This site is a treasure beyond reckoning and a life line to Jehovah’s people. See them coming to this door! If this site is not true, then there is no truth left to seek.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Food for thought
            Matthew 13:
            16 “However, happy are your eyes because they see and your ears because they hear.
            17 For truly I say to you, many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things you are observing but did not see them, and to hear the things you are hearing but did not hear them.

            John 6:
            67 So Jesus said to the Twelve: “You do not want to go also, do you?”
            68 Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes, where would we go indeed. You can almost feel the sense of abandonment Christ felt when he asked that question. But what a beautiful answer he got in return.

            • Leonard k

              I love that scripture 🙂

        • Volcanic

          & are the ladies of this site EWWEs, JS? = E-Watchman-Women-Emissaries

          (Sheep, Ewes errr, okay then, lousy Saturday morning joke)

          • Burt Reynolds

            Ewe no that’s an a-Pauline joke evern four a saturnalia.

          • Joe Dman

            there are times when I probably deserved a thumbs down, but I’m glad Y’all had mercy on me too 🙂

        • Leonard k

          I could not agree with you more you are right on target brother. if we can all stop a minute and think about all the work Robert has done and how all of his blessed efforts brought through our lives to right here right now. how many of you were confused and stumbled by the watchtower G/B how many of you may have been bitter and ready to walk away because your faith became lacking do to stumbling blocks but you found MR Robert King The Ewatchmant.com Jehova’h heard your cries he saw your heart and in his infinite wisdom love mercy and undeserved kindness you are here now and he has given you an accurate knowledge so you could not lose your faith but build your faith and move forward. he has reassured you have his intencions and reminded you of his promises. surely all of you must see his direction.

          Exodus 15:25

          25 He cried out to Jehovah, and Jehovah directed him to a tree. When he threw it into the water, the water became sweet. There He established for them a regulation and a case for judgment, and there He put them to the test.

          Proverbs 16:9

          9 A man may plot out his course in his heart, But it is Jehovah who directs his steps.

    • LW

      I think alot of JWs are in the same boat as most of us here and from the convention drama scenarios, you could see that there may have been a few telltale hints of Robert’s work deftly weaved into them.

      As much as we’ve come to learn and appreciate from this site, the import of it all is understanding Jehovah’s coming judgments and how that should affect us personally.

      As we have seen, heavenly realities transcend any physical manifestation whether on this planet or in the universe, and that includes what we have come to see as associated with God’s people. In the framework of a world, where our perception of reality has been warped, thanks to the system that has been constructed around us, we would best understand these things in terms we can understand. But when Christ comes to take over, then we can expect a HUGE change, in everything. This is only the beginning 😉

      • Leonard k

        cutting through all the lies and delusions keeping sight of his kingdom to come and trying to help our fellow brothers and sisters yes this can be very hard but all things are possible with Jehovah and jesus Conquered the world.

        Mark 10:27

        27 Looking straight at them, Jesus said: “With men it is impossible but not so with God, for all things are possible with God.”

        Revelation 3:21

        21 To the one who conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, just as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

    • Leonard k

      Isaiah 28:15

      15 For you men say: “We have made a covenant with Death, And with the Grave we have made an agreement. When the raging flash flood passes through, It will not reach us, For we have made a lie our refuge And we have hidden ourselves in falsehood.”
      yes the watchtower G/B is in for a huge wakeup call what will they say when as Robert put it the bombs start dropping.

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      Respected Brother Joel
      Here is brother Basavaraj from India. My shake hands to you with heartfelt love and affection. You are right brother and I welcome you. This website is not an apostate website. I am on this website since 2010. It was bother Robert’s article that made me to put faith once again in Jehovah and Jesus otherwise I would have been an atheist. The interpretation of prophecies by WTS has no sense but Robert’s prophetic interpretation makes real sense. Go and Read the book Pay attention to Daniel’s prophecy and Isaiah’s book Vol 1 and 2 and then come back and read Robert’s interpretation you judge which makes sense that’s it.This is what I did. I think so you got it. The person who believes in Jehovah and supports this world is an apostate. So it was WTS who preached about Jehovah but had partner ship with UN for 10 years hence WTS is an apostate not Robert King. Well I once again welcome you go through ewatchman’s web site you will know the truth.
      Warm Christain Love From:
      Br. Basavaraj
      Hubli Congregation
      North Karnataka
      S.India

      • Joel Sherrod

        Wow! I’m humbled Brother Basavaraji. Thank you so much for that warm and heart felt welcome. I look forward to discussing and commenting on Brother King’s post’ with you and all in this forum. Thanks again.

    • Shikinah

      It’s good Joel that you attempted to go..Just seeing the reaction of some that attended was enough for me…I find the attendees are not burning with love and humility, but rather with an elevated air of self righteousness, which is the one thing that I find repulsive..Never do I hear I’m going to do more for the under privileged or the elderly in the congregation..It’s all about loyalty to the org, staying strong, being obedient…It’s commands and repetitive indoctrination, guilt trips and continued reminders about Apostates..Can you imagine Jesus sermon on the mount being like this? We are so far removed from Christs original teachings it’s almost recognisable..But despite that, it’s all part of Bible prophesy which we have waited so long to see, glad you returned here with your sense of humour still intact ☺

      • I attended my assembly, and it only took 3 minutes and I got a lifetime of knowledge!!!

        https://youtu.be/MDCbJ4vnMNg

        • Burt Reynolds

          As long as that? !!

        • Joel Sherrod

          Fantastic!!! Utterly the best film about Jesus ever made. “Jesus Of Nazareth.” The best!

      • Burt Reynolds

        Absolutely. That’s just the impression I have.

      • Joel Sherrod

        Thank you Shikinah. By the way . . . is that Shikinah “Light”! 🙂

    • Burt Reynolds

      Welcome to you Joel. People seem to be flooding to this door of late. It is strengthening to see the numbers increase. It builds faith. I find it laughable how the watchtower go on about apostasy. Apostate from what? I say to my sister. The bible? No, I believe it implicitly. How can one be apostate from a man made organisation? She has no answer but that in itself, is all the answer one needs.

    • ELiJAHxSEVEN

      Joel, dear brother…I am sure that I speak for all here on Brother Kings site in saying that you are among those who truly love you and care deeply about you…I hope that you can appreciate that…Christ loves us, and all of us who are in union with Christ and those who follow him, love one another…I personally have never met you and I, being your brother, care very much for you…All of Jehovah’s people who truly worship Him, have this love and concern for one another…What a blessing that ONLY Jehovah’s people have!…Please continue to associate here and to share in the brotherhood that Jehovah provides as a refuge as we are witnesses to the oncoming judgment in these perilous days we face…hold fast to your faith and please take to heart my humble, but sincere words…take care, I look forward to reading your future comments!….(I know Brother King loves Jehovah and us too much to abandon his post as ewatchman!…lol)

      • Joel Sherrod

        Thank you so much ElihahxSeven. Wow! What encouragement! I look forward to your posts as well my brother.

        And yes, I just don’t believe that Brother King loves us all to never abandon us . . . I KNOW HE LOVES US! I am confident and secure in his agape’ love and concern for us all.

        Thanks again my brother.

    • LW

      Glad to see you back Joel. By the way, I changed my username from my full name to the abbreviation, so apologies if you didn’t recognize who this was. You’re doing the right thing in trying to maintain the proper balance. It’s a daily thing to keep working at for all of us. So again welcome back !

    • Dubbie

      Joel I just went to the convention about a week ago and it was definitely designed to bring out the “wimpiness” in us and promote the idea that faith in Jehovah = faith in the organization. They overused sentimental videos to influence the brothers, they had the sisters (and some brothers) constantly crying. I actually wanted to laugh out loud a few times because of how transparent the message was! I thought the video with the brothers in the basement during the The Great Tribulation (all the while with working electricity and running water) was pretty cheesy, if they think it’s gonna be that nice and comfortable they’ve got another thing coming! I did enjoy that Hezekiah video a lot though.

      • LW

        *glass breaks
        “This could be the final attack on God’s people.”

      • Joel Sherrod

        Yes, the Hezekiah video was excellent! It was a the talk of the Convention.

  • e.v.g

    Beated in the kh during ww3, the worst
    Nightmare. By the way im in the meeting right now.

    • Volcanic

      oh dear, e.v.g. I had the same this morning. In fact I had to leave in order to give myself a good talking to. I am ashamed to say that I felt ‘superior feelings’ because of the answers some were giving & my new understanding of it all. In fact the sister who I have the most problems with answered up & said ”everyone will have to come off their high horse sooner or later” & I wanted to laugh since she has been the one ignoring me for the last few months! But, I was ashamed of myself for my feelings, genuinely ashamed & all the way home in the car I was asking myself who do I think I am. Hope I’m better prepared to be humble next week, I am sure Jehovah must be rightfully angry with me.

      • Sam

        I also found the watchtower study very testing today….I ended up typing up a memo on my tablet when i got home putting my thoughts into words so it was no longer in my head. I feel lighter now lol Don’t feel bad, the fact that you were so hard on yourself shows you’re more humble perhaps than you realize. More so than me it seems

      • Good morning V.A.,
        I can relate to your experience, and trust me Jehovah knows it’s hard for you to sit amongst clueless folks. Makes that volcano want to erupt. ??
        “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in this land– the prophets give false prophecies, and the priests rule with an iron hand. And worse yet, my people like it that way! But what will you do when the end comes? —Jeremiah 5:30,31 (New Living Translation)
        The purpose of the deception is intended to create maximum terror and confusion among God’s people when the war in heaven actually erupts and Satan is cast down to make his last stand.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Everyone has ‘superior’ feelings volcano, but you mislable it. In fact it’s true name is called being happy that you know the truth, otherwise known as elation, thankfulness, bursting to tell them the truth and to be the bringer of glad tidings. Can you imagine giving that inspired sermon on the mount, Happy are they that love righteousness, happy are the meek….Joseph just posted the video and the actor had tears of joy in his eyes just to recite something he probably has no idea as to the significance thereof. Volcano, you have spent too long listening to the bringers of doom, teaching slavery and that near all you do is bad. Be happy with your new found joy and don’t interpret it as superiority because you hold the truth in your hands, but have been robbed of the meaning of elation and joy in the Lord and lost touch with how you, how we, should feel at such a magnificent gift.

  • Quixote

    Robert, nostalgia is not what it used to be…

    • Burt Reynolds

      Love it.

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