Trust in Jehovah

//Trust in Jehovah

This is the first of what I hope to be regular weekly, “Sunday Talks.”

Sorry for the less than optimal sound quality. The little clip on microphone I was wearing picked up some background noise, so I had to use the audio recorded from the shotgun mic on the camera, which was sub par. Hopefully I’ll get the mic situation fixed for next Sunday. I think I’ll just go with a microphone stand.

All relationships are built upon trust. Be that a relationship of a patient to a doctor, child to  a parent, husband and wife, a person buying or selling; even our pets have a bond of trust with us. And if we abuse them then that bond is broken, isn’t it?

Probably the most precious relationship is husband and wife. And how many marriages have been destroyed because trust has been broken? There’s also our relationship with God, and throughout the Scriptures we read that God implores us, command us even, to trust Him. Our having trust in Him is the same as having faith, really. Isn’t it? And that’s what God requires of us. You might wonder though, why it became necessary that we trust God. It should come naturally. But unfortunately it doesn’t. Most people are estranged from God; alienated, as the apostle said.

Well, it all began back in the Garden of Eden, didn’t it? And the trusting relationship that Adam had with his Creator was ruined because his wife listened to this talking serpent. And, of course, we know that a spirit creature was behind the one who’s come to be known as Satan, the Devil.

You know, in Hebrew, the word that is used for Devil, literally means a slanderer. This angel, this son of God, slandered his Heavenly Father, calling into question His Name, His motive: “Is it really true that God said that you must eat from every tree?” And then he went so far as to say “Oh, God knows that the day you eat from this tree your eyes will be opened and you’ll be like God, knowing good and bad’’. In other words, God was not trusting, He didn’t trust His servants; and therefore, they shouldn’t trust Him completely. He’s holding something back. He doesn’t want you to know as much as He knows.

And so, that’s where it all that began. In fact, when Jesus was on the Earth, He said that the Devil was a liar and the father of the lie.

Think of that, he invented the lie; no one had ever told a lie before. Of course, there weren’t any humans on this earth, but among the heavenly sons of God, who’d been around for eons, no one had ever told a lie. It’s amazing, though, when you think about it, the apostle said that it is impossible for God to lie. For some humans it’s impossible for them to tell the truth. What a perversion!

What was to become of God purpose? He had, in effect, trusted Adam and Eve to fulfill His purpose. He only gave them a couple of commands; one, not eat from the tree, of course, but the other was to fill the earth, subdue it and have in subjection the fish of the sea and so forth, so and then God began resting, from all the things He created.

And surely, His intention was not just to have two people alone living on earth or have a decrepit dying race; no, God trusted Adam and Eve to carry out His purpose. And, quite likely, the Devil saw how he could… You know it’s interesting that Satan did not call into question God’s power, because there would have been no contest, God would just… Gone! But he questioned God’s trustworthiness. And likely in the Devil’s mind, he saw that God had announced that He was resting, but if they eat from this tree they would die but He commanded them to fill the earth, but if he gets them to disobey God… what can God do? (5 minute mark) If he puts them to death, who was gonna fill the earth and then subdue it? If He lets them off the hook, God’s lying, He said He would put them to death. And if God lets them die and creates more humans, He breaks His own Sabbath —He said he was gonna rest.

But, anyway, Jehovah announced, on that very day, His intention to produce an offspring of this mysterious woman who would crush the head of the serpent, and of course, at the time, nobody knew who the serpent was, but, of course, as I mentioned Jesus revealed him as the original murderer and liar Satan the Devil.

And the reason Jesus could reveal him as such, is because He was the offspring of the woman, the promised one, and he was bruised in the heel, of course, when Satan had him put to death.

But, going back, after the Garden of Eden, God allowed them to produce sinful, dying offspring knowing that He would ransom them from death through this promised Messiah.

But, in time, others joined Satan’s rebellion, others in heaven that is, other sons of God. And Genesis chapter six says that they began to notice the daughters of man, that they were good-looking. They came down and took wives for themselves, all of they chose.

Well, that went on for a while and then He put a stop to it. He caused the great Deluge and wiped them out, and forced these materialized sons of God, these angels, back into the spirit dimension, where they belonged.

The apostle wrote about the angels that did not keep their original position, so… at any rate, God began anew after Noah and his family emerged from the ark and in time Jehovah contacted a man called Abram, and He put this man through a series of tests of his trustfulness, and in time He promised this man, Abram, whom he renamed, Abraham —“father of a multitude” —that his offspring would inherit this beautiful land of Canaan and that all the nations would bless themselves by means of his seed, his seed, the offspring that God promised in Eden who would crush the head of the serpent.

But God required that Abraham prove that he trusted God. He promised that he’d have an offspring at the time he was childless and he was 100 years old and his wife had passed child bearing age as well; but he believed God. And, in time, Sara gave birth to Isaac, and Isaac grew up, he wasn’t a babe, when God required this unimaginable test. He told Abraham I want you to take your son, your only son, Isaac, and sacrifice him to me. Tough test for any parent… but Abraham did as Jehovah commanded; He took the wood for the sacrifice and went up to the mountain. And he had his hand ready to plunge the dagger in Isaac’s chest whatever… and the angel stopped him, of course, and provided a ram instead of Isaac.

But Jehovah required that he demonstrate his faith, and he did so. Well, in time, the sons of Isaac, his son Jacob, whom Jehovah renamed Israel and we know that he had twelve sons and they became the 12 tribes of Israel. But, in time, they found themselves in slavery in Egypt, not in the beautiful land of Canaan that Jehovah had promised Abraham. But God rose up a man named Moses, and He empowered him to perform all manner of miracles, and Jehovah showed His power and brought the 12 tribes and a whole vast mix company out of Egypt. (10 minute mark)

He brought the ten plagues and He parted the red sea and crashed in it all Pharaoh’s army of charioteers; at any rate, the Israelites came into the Promised Land as Jehovah had promised them. But it wasn’t long, they didn’t listen to Jehovah, they didn’t trust Jehovah, and about a 1,000 years after they came into the Promised Land, 10 tribes of the Israelites were dragged off their Promised Land into slavery by the Assyrians. And the Assyrian army came up against Jerusalem, they came into Judah, in fact, and they took one of the nearest cities Lakesh and King Sennacherib sent his envoy to Jerusalem and told them: “Look, just surrender, you come out, we will take you to a land, you can have your own house, your own fig trees, and all that; just give us the gold. We would rather not get ourselves all worked up in a sweat, basically, you know, killing all of you. We just want the booty anyway, just give it to us’.

And Rabshakeh, his spokesman, made a very good point, he said: ‘“don’t allow Hezekiah to deceive you, claiming that Jehovah would protect you, what gods of the nations surrounding have protected their people from the king of Assyria?” And that included Samaria where the 10 tribes were, and their God was Jehovah and He did not protect them from the Assyrian army.

So, he made a very good point, but Hezekiah did trust in Jehovah and he trusted in Isaiah, Jehovah’s prophet, who came to Him and said: “Do not worry, they will not shoot an arrow into the city, I will defend it.” But there the Assyrian army was, camping just outside. But you likely know what happened: Jehovah sent an angel, one angel went through the camp and they slept and they never woke up. And, by the way, the Watchtower, if you’ve not seen it, they produced a video on Hezekiah, it was shown at the 2016 convention, it is an excellent production, it’s on the JW broadcast.

But Jehovah certainly saved Jerusalem, didn’t He? But, people being what they are, inexplicably, Hezekiah invited the king of Babylon into his palace and showed him all of his treasures, and all of his treasures in the temple in Jerusalem and so forth. And then the prophet Isaiah came into him and said: “who was that, that was just here?’’ ‘The king of Babylon, yeah, and I showed him all of my wealth.’’ And Isaiah said: “It’s all going to Babylon for that very reason.’’

Well, almost 200 years later, Babylon rose to prominence, and they took out the Assyrian army and the Egyptian army at the crucial battle of Carchemish and that paved the way for Nebuchadnezzar to come down and to lay siege to Judah once again.

Well, likely, the Jews, their priests, their king and noble men, they may have thought – and they had the history, and they would have thought that Jehovah would protect them again. “This is Jehovah’s city,” right? “This is where He placed His Name!’’

But Jehovah’s prophet, Jeremiah, through Jehovah’s inspiration, said: “Do not put your trust in fallacious words, do not deceive yourselves saying: ‘the temple of Jehovah, the temple of Jehovah they are’’’. No, Jehovah assured them unless they did what He said and repented of their badness, which involved taking care of the widow and the orphan, whom they were neglecting (15 minute mark) unless they did that, the king of Babylon, was most assuredly going to come in and destroy Jehovah’s holy city. And that’s exactly what happened.

And Jehovah still, at that point, gave them an opportunity to trust Him and to save their own lives. And through Jeremiah again, He told them simply fall away to the Chaldeans, ‘come out with your hands up’ as they say, surrender!and you can live. True, you lose your house, your possessions, you’ll have to live in a far away land, but you stay alive and your family can, your family linage can go on.

No, even at that, most of the Jews refused, and even the Jews that stayed behind, Jeremiah told them: ‘’do not flee down to Egypt.’ They did. And as a consequence, Jehovah sent Babylon to Egypt and punished them there.

So we see, it is really difficult for people that claim to know Jehovah and to be in a relationship with Him, to trust Him. That was the problem for the Jews, wasn’t it?

In time, Jehovah’s prophets of course foretold, even though Babylon was used by Jehovah as His executioner, He would judge Babylon. And even before Babylon came to power, Isaiah foretold that in one night it would fall. And that’s exactly what happened. October 2nd, I believe, 539 B.C. the Medo-Persian army came and somehow diverted the Euphrates river, Babylon was on the shore, the bank I should say. The city was in a partying mood, they left the gates open, after they all were “impregnable,” and the Medo-Persian army came in and killed the king on that very night. And as Jehovah foretold, the Jews were released by Darius, went back, rebuilt Jerusalem, because that’s where the Messiah was going to come.

By the way, it’s believed that when Abraham went up the mountain to sacrifice his son, it was in the very mountain where Solomon had built his temple. Anyway it’s an interesting point, that, (I’m back tracking here a little bit) when Abraham was in the land of Canaan and Jehovah imposed this test upon him, there’s no record that the Canaanites, the seven tribes of the Canaanites, who were notoriously immoral and worshipped all these gods,  but there’s no record that they practiced child sacrifice at that time, but afterwards, when the Israelites came into the Promised Land, they were practicing it and in fact, the Israelites picked up the disgusting practice of child sacrifice. And that’s one of the reasons Jehovah had Jerusalem destroyed; He said such a thing never came up into his heart.

But it’s interesting because that Abraham proved his faith, by that means, by coming as far, as good as offering up his son; the demons began imposing that upon their worshippers. Imagine that! As much pain as a woman goes through giving birth they would handed a babe over to be killed and thrown into a fire to please some god? But it’s as if the demons had said: ‘ha! That’s not a big deal, our worshippers will sacrifice their sons.’

Really, because Isaac at the time was Abraham’s only son, his only begotten son, it pictures what Jehovah would do with His only begotten son, as Jesus said to Nicodemus: ‘God loved the world so much, He gave His only begotten son’ in sacrifice

But, in time, after Jerusalem was rebuilt, the Messiah came and by that time Jerusalem was a bustling city and the Jews that had been scattered throughout who didn’t relocate back in Jerusalem, many of them would come to Jerusalem for the festivals. (20 minute mark)

But, anyway, as Jesus’ ministry progressed, he entered Jerusalem, for the very last time and he went to the temple, threw out the money chambers, and He told the apostles that the temple was going to be thrown down, and no stone would be left upon stone. So, the apostles were probably stunned, ‘this was the holy city, Jesus was there, he was going to become king, where is his throne going to be?’

Right, well, even the first Christians, were anointed, the 120 were anointed in an upper room in the city of Jerusalem and the apostles, they began preaching in the temple every day, it says. So, they could’ve reasoned in their own minds: ‘wait a minute, maybe, Jesus is not talking about all of Jerusalem being destroyed, because we have read in the prophets that anyone who attacks Jerusalem it’s as if they’re poking their finger in God’s eyeball. It’s going to require an instantaneous reaction. And didn’t the prophets say that the Messiah would return when his feet would touch the Mount of Olives? So, when Jesus left, he said he was coming back, surely he’s coming back to the place where he left’’, so, but Jesus said that Jerusalem would be surrounded by enemies who would build around it a fortification with pointed stakes and they would dash their children within to the ground and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed time of the nations are fulfilled.

So Jesus gave them explicit instructions: ‘when you see the disgusting thing that causes desolation, get out. If you’re on the field don’t come back to your house, if you’re on the roof don’t go back inside to get your garments, get out of town’. Because the Romans came and then they inexplicably left, but then they came back, and when they came back. Unfortunately for the Jews that didn’t obey Jesus or know about Him, the Romans came back on the Passover, and the city was packed with worshippers, many of whom may not even live there,came from around the Mediterranean to celebrate the Passover. And when the Romans came back they quickly —in a very few hours —put a fence of pointed stakes around Jerusalem, just as Jesus said they would. And then they were trapped and over a million souls were lost, way more than the population of Jerusalem at that time.

But the apostle Paul surely knew the words that Jesus had spoken, but he also could see that the Jewish Christians were still very much attached to the Mosaic system. In fact, many of the letters that Paul wrote were showing that the Jewish system had been phased-out. But it wasn’t an easy thing to get the Christians free from that, was it? That’s why he wrote Galatians stressing that… (Romans) he taught them about Jerusalem being our mother (heavenly Jerusalem).

But, I think his most pointed letter was the Hebrews, obviously addressed to Christians living in Judea, and he went to great lengths, to show how all the things the Israelite system, the mosaic system had served its purpose. It ended with Christ, and in the 13th chapter of Hebrews, he made the comparison how the priests would take the animals, after they’d been sacrificed to Jehovah, and they would take them outside the camp or outside the city of Jerusalem and dump their ashes. In the same way Jesus had been executed outside the city wall of Jerusalem. (25 minute mark)

And so Paul told his Hebrew brothers ‘let us therefore go outside the camp to Christ, because we do not have here in Jerusalem a city that remains.’

So, he was helping them to get their minds divorced from the Jewish law, the temple in Jerusalem, so that they would be more ready to leave the city when the disgusting thing showed itself; that came in the form of the Roman armies, they entered the temple and so forth.

Well, I think you can see, maybe where I’m going with this and we see the pattern of people down through history. People that should’ve known better, people that had access to God’s word, the problem is that they always put faith in what they could see. Christians should not put our faith in what we see, including a visible organization. That is surely an expression Jehovah’s Witnesses are familiar with: ‘the Watchtower Society is Jehovah’s visible organization.’ Well, what is so different about that mentality and the Jews living in Jerusalem either in Jesus’ days or Jeremiah’s days? They feel like: ‘’we have the temple of Jehovah, this is where Jehovah puts His Name, this is Jehovah’s visible organization!’’ but if they wanted to survive, they had to break with the accepted orthodoxy, they had to demonstrate their trust in Jehovah.

Jeremiah was considered a nobody, an outsider: ‘this guy is not part of the Jewish establishment,’ but if you wanted to live, you better listen to what this prophet says.

We know that after Jerusalem was destroyed in time, the apostles died off and Christianity became absorbed into the Roman Empire and for the most part, Christianity didn’t exist anymore. It had become so corrupted; it was like Israel before they went into exile —submerged in idolatry, superstition and all sorts of evil and wickedness. But, Jesus said when he returns there would be a harvest and there would be truthful sons and they would be co-mingled with those who were planted by Satan the Devil.

So, looking back, we can see that Jehovah began preparing for the culmination of His purpose, and what is His purpose? As Paul wrote in Ephesians 4: ‘an administration at the full limit of the appointed times that would gather all the things together again, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth.’

In other words, those who are going live with Christ in heaven, they are the things in the heavens, the 144000 and those who are going to live on the earth, so when Jehovah brought the Israelites back from captivity to Babylon, it prefigured a restoration that would come about when Jesus Christ returns. That’s why Jehovah calls Cyrus, His anointed one, literally His Messiah, and Jesus would perform a similar liberation and all the prophecies for example, in Isaiah, when the Jews came back, Jehovah referred to that as the new heavens and the new earth: the rebuilt city of Jerusalem.

Well, if you’re one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, you know that the Watchtower applies of all those prophecies to itself, to Jehovah’s Witnesses. The rebuilt city of Jerusalem began back in 1919. For example the prophecy in the second chapter of Isaiah: ‘In the final part of the days, the mountain of the house of Jehovah will be lifted up above the hills in the mountains, and to it all the peoples of the nations will stream saying ‘let’s go to the mountain of the house of Jehovah.’ (30 minute mark)

And it goes on to say that Jehovah would set all things straight and people would beat their swords into plowshares and nations will not learn war anymore. Jehovah’s Witnesses may reason  ‘well, that has been fulfilled because Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t learn war, they refuse to be inducted into the military.’ But has that brought peace to the Earth, because a relatively small religious group has not taken up arms? That hasn’t brought peace to the earth, the nations are still warring, aren’t they not?

When Jesus spoke about the disgusting thing standing in the holy place, he referred the reader to the prophecy of Daniel. There are several places that he could’ve been referring to, but in the eighth chapter of Daniel, it speaks of the desolation of the holy place and the removal of the constant feature of Jehovah’s worship and even the Prince of princes will be confronted by this political tyrant. Well, the Watchtower is well aware of this prophecy and they applied it to themselves again: the holy place that was desolated, the holy ones were brought to ruin during WWII. Of course Jehovah’s Witnesses were terribly persecuted in  Nazi Germany, they were in concentration camps, some were executed, some died of deprivation, hunger, cold, and in the United States there were mob actions against Jehovah’s Witnesses. Some countries banned the literature of Jehovah’s Witnesses during that time.

But, in the United States, the government actually upheld the rights of Jehovah’s Witnesses and there are several books written about the Supreme Court victories that the Watchtower had won.  And in all of that, Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States were not under ban.

The point is the Watchtower has obscured these prophecies. For example, the holy place that Jesus said would be desolated by the disgusting thing is Christendom and the fulfillment of Jesus’ words will take place when the United Nations destroys Babylon the Great.

But, if that’s the case though, why would Jesus say that when you see this thing happening to take action? Does it make sense that if Jehovah’s Witnesses are not part of Christendom prior to that? Really, the book of Revelation in the eleventh chapter talks about the nations trampling on the holy city and God’s sanctuary being given to them for 42 months and of course that was after Jerusalem had been destroyed by the Romans so we know it doesn’t apply to any literal, visible city, but it applies to Christ’s congregation, which is a spiritual temple.

Paul, in several of his letters, said that you – speaking to anointed Christians – are the temple of God that is built up for divine inhabitation. So, the prophecies that apply to Jerusalem in the days of Jeremiah, and the Jerusalem to which Jesus was speaking the holy place that would be desolated, applies to Christ’s congregation. And unfortunately, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no inkling of this, because their faithful and discreet slave has no inkling or it or if they do, they’re not saying.

But the situation is that Jehovah has set things up so that you will be required to demonstrate your trust in God apart from the Watchtower.

How it’ll come about? Well, we will see.  But I can assure you that everything that the Watchtower has taught as regards the fulfillment of prophecy will discredited and called into question. God wants to find out what is in your heart —if you really trust Him. It’s easy to follow men, and religious people fall into that trap all the time, and I mentioned all that instances, with the Israelites. So you’re gonna have to demonstrate your faith in a way that you’ve never been called upon to do before. And I’m convinced it is going to be soon.

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2017-02-12T19:50:55+00:00 February 6th, 2017|Commentary|116 Comments
  • Joseph Stephan

    This would be awesome, if you can pull it off!
    Especially for us boycotting ones!!

    • ewatchman

      It is very doable. Jehovah willing, of course. I hope you don’t get tired of seeing me in the same suit. I only have a couple that fit me. lol

      • Jamie Mac

        is that cus you lost weight or gained :). i have several articles of clothing that no longer fit me. My waist has expanded from 32 to 34 sigh. Thats what happens when you hit 60

        • Burt Reynolds

          Ha! I wouldn’t worry about a 34 inch waist Jamie. In fact at 60 I would be rejoicing at such slender proportions.

          • Jamie Mac

            Hey Burt , is there anything worth rejoicing at 60, apart from being in the company of you lot:)

            • Burt Reynolds

              I’m working hard at finding something worth rejoicing at I must admit, besides this band of brothers and sisters. It’s a little like standing outside my home with a handful of gold offering it free to passers by, but with them walking on and refusing it. Other than that, woodworking in my shed and long walks by the sea and bread making, diary, now in my 26th year, writing, bit of painting, and talking to my dog….but he never replies. I’m never sure if that is a good or a bad thing, but is for him at least, probably a wise thing.

        • ewatchman

          I went from 28” to 32″ to 34″ lol

      • Arvid Fløysand

        Nor the suit ore the talk will get me tired.btw..if you can cope with wearing the same suit and keep on steady for just a little while more…a glorious white suit will be ready for you…so dont worry about the suit 🙂 …just hold on to what you got brother…and thank you for sharing food with us

      • noone needs to tell you a suit isnt necessary. when have you ever dressed inappropriate in your films? yet many listen

      • Joseph Stephan

        We don’t mind what you wear, you can lounge in your lazyboy sipping on tea. Wearing your Hugh Haffner pajamas!! Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha ??

        • Burt Reynolds

          Good heavens no! We English would insist on the correct attire of morning suite, crisp white shirt with high starched collar, and black bow tie…with mirror finish black brogue shoes….copy of The Times under arm, red rose in the lapel, and of course, King James Version clutched in hand. The introductory music should be at the very least, Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in F, but the opening phrases of Beethoven’s Piano Concerto number Four, played by Clara Haskill, the 1959 recording, would be most agreeable. The background could be for instance, Constable’s Hay Waine or perhaps a nice view of Aspen Trees in the autumn. There is, as a last resort, the old fireside chat setting, next to a suitable stone fireplace (Adam’s grate essential for a visual pun), with Robert nicely ensconced in a wingback fireside chair with tartan rug over his knees and glass of fine single malt whisky in hand. Yes, I think that should just about set the scene. I shall look forward to Sunday.

          • Jamie Mac

            Nice picture Burt, you have a way with words. You could be describing the scene set for the queens speech broadcast to the nation every year.By the way the single malt whisky would have to be Scottish.

  • Burt Reynolds

    I have just watched your programme and it’s really good. For me it is a great way to learn as I can just rewind when I miss a point. Is there a way they can be emailed? I would like to send them on to my family. I doubt if they use you tube, being witnesses. This talk was good clear instruction built on a clear recitation oft he past and anti typical events. .

    • ewatchman

      You can go to the source on YouTube and click on the Share button. It should give you the option to email it.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Got it. Thanks.

      • Francis Bencharles

        Scrap the suit. Just wear the jacket and a nice shirt tucked in. Come your hair, unless the unkempt look was what you were going for.

        • Beverly kenyon

          I disagree Francis Bencharles, Brother King’s look is very up to date and trendy. He doesn’t look like someone’s grandad or an old fashioned insurance salesman in a boring old fashion polyester suit! He looks very up to date as oppose to the 7 fat cats who look out of shape and worn and old fashion. Btw, I’ve read your thoughts on how things will unfold and I must say some of it is interesting and you’re very knowledgeable.

          • Francis Bencharles

            He doesn’t need a suit. I remember him making many videos were there was no pretense of a suit. I thought the casual look was better. Plus, if you are going to wear a suit and tie, button your top button and don’t have a two inch gap between the tip of your tie and the top of your pants. I thought he looked like he just rolled out of bed to make that video.

            • Beverly kenyon

              I disagree Francis Bencharles. You must be a purist when it comes to suits and ties. That tie was similar to a skinny tie and Brother King carried off the hipster, tousled, self confident look very well. He didn’t come across as a hell fire, bible thumping preacher! Yeah, you’re right about when he made vids dressed very casual because I used to think, I just know his wife picked out those shirts for him as they were a good choice…good taste. Either way Brother King is in good nick and does not dress like a grandad wearing his drab old fashioned jumper with his favourite slippers and a tatty pair of trousers that looked like they were bought in the fifties!

            • Southern ShaSha

              Dear Frank, my desire is to not be offensive, as we all try to be helpful toward one another on this site. We are all here in an attempt to learn and love Jehovahs will and purpose! Want to share with you a few scriptures that have benefitted me greatly. Hope you find the value in them as well.
              James 4:6
              Proverbs 16:18
              Proverbs 18:12
              I’ve been searching to find the scripture on dress code, won’t give up til I find it!

            • Southern ShaSha

              Sure hope JEHOVAH was’nt offended that Robert just “rolled out of bed to make that video”!!!!!

            • thats a pretty interesting definition :p

            • just ask a pharisee, he’ll know

            • i found it!
              Acts 15:38

              For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay no greater burden on you than these few requirements: a collar button long-sleeve shirt put inside of pants that must have a belt. a vest and a tie. shoes that are ugly but eveyone else doesnt seem to think so.
              black socks. part hair and use hairspray. close shaved.
              the end

            • Southern ShaSha

              Thank you D.A.. Both scripture and your illustration tie in very nicely. Perhaps I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, huh?

            • its hard to wake up on the right side of the bed when both sides are unpleasant

            • Beverly kenyon

              You do know DA, someone is looking up that scripture…thinking how did they know about hairspray back then. And I bet Brother King is thinking, I spent a lot of time on that talk and all everyone is talking about is my suit! Lol.

            • Southern ShaSha

              Hello Beverly, seems to me rudeness and arrogance seemed to take on a “life of it’s own”. As one leaves, another seems to pop up out of nowhere!!!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, Southern ShaSha, popping up like ‘weeds.’ We all have days where we feel we’ve got out of the wrong side Southern ShaSha.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Those weeds that pop up are usually a small group of know- it- alls . That change names and accounts and show back up from time to time just to annoy people. Jehovah has a very special place for them in the near future.

            • Arvid Fløysand

              Joseph…can you hear that annoying sound?what is it…hmmm…strange..sounds like gnashing of teeth 😉

            • hey he brought it up.

              i liked his talk very much but explaining everything i appreciated would take too long to type and im not up for typing long paragraphs through the cellphone mechanizm

            • Beverly kenyon

              Like Burt said once DA, you say a lot in a few words. Wish I had that knack as I tend to go all round the houses to make a point! I think you do really well posting on your mobile phone as I find doing that a struggle…everything is so small! I suppose the more you do it the easier it gets. Btw, I’m still going through that article, the Anti-Christ is Coming, the link you provided. Even though I’ve read it before, a while ago, I’m finding it riveting…that’s why I’m taking my time with it.

            • Burt Reynolds

              DA is ACTually quoting from the Book of Burt. Cheek.

            • Beverly kenyon

              When the Book of Burt is being quoted, it looks like you’re up there with Literary Giants Burt. Lol. Does DA know you have the copywrite to that book and you just can’t go quoting from it as and when! The cheek!

            • Burt Reynolds

              People frequently add to the book of Burt. I get educated in a salutary manner quite often. That’s probably why it covers so many subjects.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yes, DA’s additional writing to the Book of Burt is informative, who knew they had hairspray back then and his tips on grooming was ‘interesting’ but a bit scary…sounds like he was aiming for the serial killer look! Lol. Personally, I always look forward to quotes from the book as its packed with wisdom, insight and humour. Should be on the best seller list! Or at least on EBay!

            • passive thought Isaiah 3:17-24

            • Beverly kenyon

              I know it’s coincidence DA, but I’ve only just finished looking up on my Bible Hub app that Isaiah 49:15,16 scripture you recently quoted about Jehovah saying, I have written your name on the palm of my hands and your post came through as soon as I finished…weird! I like that scripture!

            • reminds me of one of the saddest things i know. one of the oldest writings known located in a slave mining area read ‘please dont forget me Jehovah’ (or please remember me Jehovah) written on the side of the rock wall

            • Beverly kenyon

              That’s heartbreaking DA. So upsetting reading that as they didn’t last long working in those mines and the work itself was vile! Well that person is out of their misery and Jehovah knows who that person is…like he has that person’s name written on the palm of his hand. Jehovah is faithful and loyal to all who love him from their hearts like that slave mine worker…he knew God and that would’ve given him so much hope and comfort, a bit like us today really as we all yearn for the Kingdom to come and for Jehovah to please remember us.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Don’t despair DA, cos for sure I know your name written on Jehovah’s palm as you have a zeal and great love for Jehovah. You also love truth hence that’s why you’re here on this site. Sometimes you cry out in anguish and it’s heartbreaking as it’s coming straight from your heart as you want to get it right but we’ll fall down in this horrid world but don’t stay down as you know the Taunter wants us to stay down in the filth… make the Heavenly Father’s heart rejoice by getting back up, don’t give the Taunter the satisfaction cos he’d love that! We know how he operates. Can’t stand him, he knocks me sick as he’s a mass murderer… proper scumbag!

            • Beverly kenyon

              What you trying to say DA…that I’m a haughty woman? Lol. I hope I’m not but sometimes I suppose I can be. I’m mortified. Can’t stand haughty people myself! I’m gonna have to work harder on being a bit more humble.

            • no, i wasnt thinking that. just thoughts in topic relation to the meeting rituals of groom an dress

            • Beverly kenyon

              Thank goodness for that DA! Reading those verses, they were really high maintenance back then. That’s hard word work but it does sound beautiful.

            • Francis Bencharles

              What part of that wasn’t offensive? Thanks for the council though.

            • Burt Reynolds

              It’s not the man its the message, but it’s nice to accept people how they are and not to make personal comment. You dress appropriately to engage the audience or client and use empathy to judge the common standard of approach befitting the occasion.

          • Burt Reynolds

            But I AM someone’s grandad! In fact I’m four people’s grandad! And I used to wear the old pinstripe and black or oxblood brogues with a hand polished mirror finish! Well, now I’m off to get a tattoo and groove on down to the local shops to get some hair gel and a Robert style hair cut. I think I’ll get some decent shades too and some skin tight jeans….I won’t have to worry about falling over in those…they will hold my knees ridged.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Can’t stop laughing at your post Burt. So funny. Just because you’re someone’s Grandad doesn’t mean to say you should dress like one! Lol. Wearing your pinstripe and ox blood brogues you sound like the Sapeurs of Brazzaville! Those guys have great styles! Can’t stop laughing at you in your skinny jeans grooving down to the shops, the jeans holding your knees in. And your gelled up hair! Watch you don’t arrested Burt! For crimes against fashion!

            • Anderiega

              Tight pants!?

            • Beverly kenyon

              That’s really funny! Don’t let Tony see those pants. Big trouble!

        • Joseph Stephan

          Frank, you just wish you had some hair to comb!????

          • Francis Bencharles

            I’m actually quite secure in my baldness, thank you!

          • Noe Namely

            Frank still has the first comb his mother bought him from the Avon Lady in 1934, it’s never been used. Some guys are just lucky that way, they keep their same natural look their entire life VIA dailey shampooing with Nair.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Francis Bencharles embraces his his bald look and show what confident person he is. Some men deliberately shave all the hair from their head…it’s a fashion statement now for some. I’ve read Francis Bencharles history in a post he sent about six days ago and it was horrible how he was treated and how principled he was in making a stand for truth.

  • praze Jehovah for his provisions via his anoinded! bless Jehovah for being a trusting God! praise Jah for his patients likened to a parent with his difficult child!
    great is Jehovah our father and king forever an ever!

  • Andres Felipe

    I dont know English. I do not want to miss the post. Are you going to stop writing?

    • Marisa Gomez

      Hola Andres , tambien soy colombiana y tampoco hablo ingles aunque entiendo mucho ingles escrito; he escrito algunas lIneas en este post, pero no entienden por el idioma, a veces estoy de acuerdo con el hermano Robert, a veces no…..realmente me confundo. Por ejemplo en el tema del bautismo…..pero sino me bautizo, no soy parte del pueblo de Dios. Por otro lado él dice que si usted es un testigo de Jehova,,,ha recibido un gran regalo….

      • Andres Felipe

        Jajajaja si ,te entiendo . Pero es un tema largo .lo podemos conversar si quieres con más calma .mi numero de celular es 3504625618,si quieres hablar . Personalmente he leído todo lo que Robert escribe ?

        • Anonymous

          Hola hermanos, soy de Republica Dominicana y estoy leyendo los escritos de Robert King desde el 2009. He estado buscando en mi pais alguien que haya tenido la misma bendicion que yo de haber conocido esta fuente de informacion y hasta ahora no he tenido exito, teniendo en cuenta que hay que ser muy cauteloso. Fui criado como testigo de Jehova y aun sigo activo como tal. Conozco el ingles a nivel basico, pero no tanto como para traducir los escritos de Robert King, ni mucho menos, poner subtitulo a sus videos y charlas. entiendo que si alguno de ustedes tiene esa capacidad, su trabajo sera muy apreciado. Saludos

          • Andres Felipe

            Por lo menos podemos animarnos entre nosotros los que hablamos español .es cierto de todas formas hay que ser cauteloso .yo he hablado con los ancianos de la congregación muy fuerte sobre el tema y ellos son muy tercos jajajaja.dicen que ellos se deben guiar por lo que dice el esclavo y yo les he dicho que ellos son estrellas en la mano de cristo y no del esclavo .ahí voy de apoco jajajaja

          • Anderiega

            Welcome! Mi esposo es dominicano y queremos mudarnos a DR.

        • Marisa Gomez

          Perfecto, acabo de guardar tu numero, gracias

          • Andres Felipe

            Vale …cundo quiras mearcas y te devuelvo la llamada . Y charlamos de lo que no entiendas .si quieres

          • Andres Felipe

            Hola mariza. ..te perdiste. Pensé que podíamos compartir información y aclarar puntos. Pero fresca. Como vas en la predicación?

            • Marisa Gomez

              Hola, como vas,? No me he perdido, he estado poniendome al dia en algunos temas de Robert, he heco unas dos preguntas, pero sin respuesta y nisiquiera aparecen en los post.
              Gracias por tenerme presente. Saludos.

            • Andres Felipe

              Que preguntas tienes .De pronto puedo ayudarte….De algo debe servir más de 25 años de servicio jajajaja ?

            • Marisa Gomez

              Hola pregunté a traves del post, cuándo y como sera destruida Babilonia la Grande, crees q me puedes ayñudar con l respuesta?
              Puedo preguntarte si eres expulsado?

            • Andres Felipe

              Hola marisa …No no soy expulsado no te preocupes. No sé si te entiendo la pregunta porque esto traduce mal . Si hablas de la destrucción futura de Babilonia? Cuando y como serán destruida? O hablas de Babilonia la antigua ?

            • Marisa Gomez

              Hablo de la futura babilonia. La del fin

            • Andres Felipe

              De todas formas deja el miedo y escríbeme para darte la respuesta más clara ….recuerda que te di mi WhatsApp ..3504625618

            • Marisa Gomez

              Hola,,,,plizz….podrias preguntar por mi ¿Por qué Jesus es adorado junto con Jehová en Revelacion 5:13-14 ?

              Tambien si el que monta el caballo blanco del apocalipsis 6:2 es realmente Jesus o significa el falso profeta del que advirtió en Mateo 24:23.? Teniendo en cuenta que la descripcion que se hace de este jinete no es la misma que se hace en Revelacion 19:11-12 ?
              Porfa…..porque no logro conectarme con el hermano Robert.

            • Andres Felipe

              Vale ya pregunto …Pero te tengo la repuesta

            • Andres Felipe

              Opino que el caballo blanco representa la disciplina y castigo de jehova hacia su pueblo. Esto está en armonía con el hecho que el castigo empieza con la casa de Dios,como dijo el apostol pedro .en lo referente a revelación y la adoración al cordero es algo sencillo pero…agradecimiento hermana …agradecimiento de jehova por su hijo por todo lo que hizo a favor de su nombre y sacrificio. Ya sabes un muestra grande de sacrificio debe ser recompensado con una gran muestra de agradecimiento. Pero déjame y te lo explico con más profundidad

            • Marisa Gomez

              Ok, esperaré ansiosa, gracias

      • Anderiega

        Bienvenida mi hermana! I understand Spanish, but I don’t type or speak it well.

      • Lo que realmente importa Marisa es la dedicación que uno hace individualmente a Dios. A cierto punto la WTS ni te dejan bautizar sin prometer lealtad a la organización, algo que no me di cuenta porque me bautice de menor. El bautismo para los TJ es más para identificarse con ellos aparte de dejar saber a todos que has hecho una dedicación a Dios.

        Dios lea todos los corazones y sabe perfectamente las circunstancias de cada uno, hasta personas que han dejado su organización por las razones que sea. No debes dejar que los demás te apresuren en bautizarte. Tu relación con Dios y nuestro salvador Jesús son las cosas más importantes.

        Por cierto he respondido a tu pregunta pero si no has entendido la respuesta en inglés te explico aquí en castellano: En mi avatar no soy yo. Es un personaje de una serie de comedia irlandesa llamada “Father Ted” (Padre Eduardo) y es un cura bastante torpe que no se entera de nada… muy parecido a mí jeje.

        Saludos hermanita.

    • ewatchman

      No. I am not going to stop writing. But I will not be writing as much as I have in the past.

  • Andres Felipe

    Do not forget me although it seems that I am the only one who speaks Spanish. If it is so, I feel more privileged. I always translate written messages because they are fascinating, but difficult an audio

    • Marisa Gomez

      Hola Andres, tambien soy colombiana y tampoco hablo mucho ingles aunque entiendo casi el 80% escrito, he escrito aqui, pero no entienden lo que
      quiero decir, estoy de acuerdo con el hermano Robert King en su gran mayoria, pero hay cosas en las que no,,,,talvez es porque no alcanzo a comprender la idea en su totalidad. Soy testifo de Jehova activa y me dan muchas ganas de mostrar a los hermanos la pagina del hermano Robert, pero tu sabes eso es muy complicado….Talvez tengas aluna sugerencia al respecto.? Agradecere tu respuesta y tu tiempo. Saludos.

      • Andres Felipe

        Hola marisa! !!! No sabes cómo me alegra saber que eres de colombia .yo soy de bogota ?. Que te digo , sí, es muy difícil tratar de hablareportar con los hermanos pero podemos ponernos en contacto si quieres. Y podemos compartir ideas .yo soy testigo hace 25 años .la verdad en estos momentos estoy inactivo por las cosas que he visto de la organización pero Robert me ha ayudado mucho

      • Andres Felipe

        Tu sabes que en la predicación surgen momentos en los que hacemos preguntas o comentarios sobre algún tema bíblico. Puedes aprovechar para tocar un tema .por ejemplo : a mi personalmente me gusta hablar de temas proféticos y hablo mucho de isaias y amós. Un tema que es genial y que abre le mente de losu hermanos es pregunta les que quiso decir Pablo cuando dijo que había nacido prematrimaturamente;o que quiso decir el apostol Juan cuando hizo el comentario de juan 21 :23;eso sí tienes que prepararte bien . Yo la verdad últimamente he sido muy directo con los hermanos al mostrar lo ciegos que estamos en sentido espiritual mostrando isaias 42: 19?

        • Marisa Gomez

          Buena idea, ayer la puse en practica en el trabajo de campo

    • Burt Reynolds

      I am sure you won’t be forgotten. Maybe a Spanish speaker can dub them?

      • Andres Felipe

        Thanks Burt, you’re very kind. I always read your comments and you are very wise …. With love from Colombia

  • Shelley.

    I really enjoyed Sundays talk.Im so looking forward to next Sunday.

  • Tabitha

    Fantastic talk, thanks very much Brother Robert. And the audio was perfect! Couldn’t help thinking of Prov 3:5,6 and how the GB have somehow re-written it to say, “Trust in Jehovah (the GB) with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding, in all you ways take notice of him (us) and he (we) will make your paths straight.” I’m sure it wasn’t like that when I was a youth. We didn’t even know (or care) the names of those that were providing the spiritual food, now the GB are viewed like celebrities. The transition from trusting in Jehovah, to trusting the GB has been so gradual it has almost been impossible to discern. Thanks for lifting the veil!

    • Anderiega

      I think (I “feel” it) more and more are noticing! I appreciate how Robert said that “judgement will be done on an individual basis”…I used to feel so guilty and confused for questioning all the GB adoration. Now I feel much clearer and better.

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  • Searcher

    Thanks Robert it seems Jehovah provides. Since the commencement of the God’s kingdom rule book i stopped attending meetings on a regular basis. I couldn’t stomach such a blatant cult like indoctrination this book was inferring apart from the out right lies, it was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. If your able to provide a talk on Sundays that would be such a blessing.

  • Beverly kenyon

    Thoroughly enjoyed this talk and hopefully Brother King will deliver more ‘Sunday Talks’ like this one. And no mention of 1914! Sound quality was good. I vaguely remember talks given by Brother King in a Kingdom Hall setting, even with a scripture on the background wall…I absolutely loved it as it gave a sense of actually being in the KH which was a comfort for me at that time as I was never going back!

    • Peter

      Yes, I agree.

  • Observing Quietly

    My husband and I love going over all this fascinating material. If anyone is able to type up the commentary, please post it as we always print it out and then go over it together. Thanks in advance! We feel we really get to chew the meat then.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Reading quietly too !

  • Francis Bencharles

    Nice talk. The Watchtower is not the Jerusalem of Hezekiah’s time. They fit better the Jerusalem of Pharoah Nicco’s time when he defeated the Israelites and then set up Eliakim of Jerusalem’s throne as his vassal king in 608 BCE the first regnal year being 607. The Watchtower is destined for destruction. They are the modern day “city” pictured by Ninevah and subject to destruction by the words of Jonah. He did not actually destroy the people of Ninevah because they repented. What will the Watchtower do. Will they repent and not be destroyed by Jehovah or will they cling to their sin and the people to Baal? Let’s all hope that the Watchtower and the people in her care do all for one repent to Jehovah and answer his call to “come out of her my people” because they are also in Babylon with their screwy ways. Nice talk though

  • ewatchman

    Someone has transcribed the “Sunday Talk,” for those who may wish to read it. https://e-watchman.com/trust-in-jehovah/

  • ewatchman

    Unfortunately I won’t be able to do a Sunday Talk today, as I came down with the flu yesterday. It is not severe, I just can’t think very clearly.

    • KB

      I just finished reading last weeks talk. Many great points I walked away with. I’ve always had trouble with Abraham being willing to almost put his son to death. I mean I’ve really struggled with that. But after your explanation it makes much more since now. It’s very easy to say youwe have faith, but it another thing to be able to prove it. Thanks for all you do, I hope you fell better soon.

    • Joseph Stephan

      That’s okay, get well soon. The one that I had lasted for a week.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I haven’t had it yet, he said with an aire of self righteousness. We get free flu jabs over here if you’re old and decrepit. I’m saving any immunity I have left for the tribulation. ?

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Robert don’t worry about anything you just go and take care of your self and get plenty of rest you’re going to need It seriously, I was in bed for 10 days with the flu recently and all’s I can do was drink chicken broth and eat Pita bread and I could barely read. Hope you feel better soon.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Get well soon Robert.

    • e.v.g

      I was expecting your Sunday talk in the morning literally, instead I went to the KH and heard about 1914 stuff talk.
      Get well soon.

      • KB

        I feel your pain. It’s really mind boggling how JWs believe that Jesus has been king for 102103 years and basically has accomplished nothing. So sick of hearing about 1914, its actually insulting IMO to Jesus. But at least we know the truth behind all the lies, very thankful for that.

  • Richard Long

    I hope its ok to make personal application here.

    So this, trust, is my core issue. As a young person, I became convinced my parents (and practically every other adult on earth) had lost all their credibility and subsequently withdrew into myself. My coping mechanism was isolation and self-reliance. The eventuality of every person who trusts only themselves is that they realize the only person they trust is also untrustworthy. For these twenty-five some odd years since baptism, mine has always seemed to be the very difficult task of transferring the intellectual concept that Jehovah is our “good” or “trustworthy” complete and perfect parent into a real relationship. And while I think about and “talk” to Jehovah significantly more often than my actual parents, I still can’t say it’s a relationship He considers worth having. I mean, I have known individuals who will say “I know I am Jehovah’s friend and I trust Him completely!”, then I take one look at their lives and go “pffffttt”. Conversely, when looking at the lives of others, I think, “I believe you! I bet He trusts you, too!” Then I look at my own life and go “pfffttt”.

    The most real relationships I have in my life are my wife and daughters, and those because we’re proximate and we’ve struggled together and done the difficult work of knowing each other, testing each other, falling down in front of each other, hurting and healing each other. If Jehovah is engaging me in this way, I’m not aware of it. Maybe His wisdom dictates that my indifference necessitates that he not? So, Christian living, to this point, has largely been an exercise in practicality. Learn the right thing, do the right thing, minister to Christ’s brothers, maybe get a quick, merciful death. I perceive one complication in having a relationship with Jehovah is that I already see myself as dead? What does it say about us when we put complete faith in what Jehovah says He will do to us while demonstrating little faith in what He says he will do for us?

    • Burt Reynolds

      I think the problem is, is seeing Jehovah as a real being. One has to be convinced that this world is not as it should be, that even if there were no god, this world cannot continue, that there are things on this earth that surpass the ability of man, and in the heavens. The God of the watchtower is not alive, but portrayed as a morose and demanding God, and we as hopeless slaves that can never reach a worthy standard except through Christ. But the pathway to seeing the love behind the true being, the true facts is shielded, because to get to it, we have to pass by the governing body who put a never ending list of demands before us. Believing 1914 is one of them. They parade contradictions, such as the blood issue, and stressors to the conscience such as child abuse, that they neither resolve or stop, but chose to cover over. People see the truth of the governing body, but do not know what the real truth is, and so they carry on being decieved and Jehovah remains an obscure being, full of contradictions and impossible heights. The truth is, we can reach an understanding and if we chose to, can see Jehovah as a tangible ‘person’ and great is the healing in that. The first step in this is to be true to yourself. The second step is to look about you and consider, as Jesus said to do, the lilies. The birds that cannot fall to earth without Jehovah knowing. How these things are made….and that is a study in itself….and come to understand the wonder of life, and the simple fact that every thing on earth, has a designer, be it man, or God. Who made flesh think? How can that be? What is life? What are the laws of creation? Because if you cannot wonder at these things, the simple things before your very eyes, then the bible has no meaning. That may sound simplistic and maybe it is,,but if one cannot grasp 2+2, which is what the governing body seek to perpetuate, then logarithms make no sense, do they? How can one believe in and understand Jehovah, who do not of themselves, understand the work of his hands? This is what he has given us as his proof, and it contains all the proof you need, and the scales fall from the eyes and reveal the master and his real personality when you really look into the physical stamp left for us, made for us, as a witness to his person. And that of course, is the genesis of understanding the rest and of not, making Jehovah our father, but of Jehovah becoming our father. Forget the watchtower God, portrayed by man. Come to know Jehovah through his works and he will become as real as you want him to be. The question, ‘mummy, where did I come from?’ is far deeper than we could ever imagine.

      • Richard Long

        Thank you for that, Burt. I do realize that if I am to reach maturity the coping mechanisms adopted early in life make up just so much mental malware that has to be deconstructed and dismantled. I can say that my heart is steadily becoming as open as my mind always has been. This results in far fewer “blue screen errors” in my psyche. And, as usual ,you nailed me down with your “where did I come from?” reference. I was literally back to that crossroads when my current journey commenced. After reading Daniel Gensler’s story, I had to completely reboot. Here was a decent, vibrant young brother used heavily by his congregation, circuit , and district… the brother we all wish we were, so to speak. When 1914 was finally deconstructed in his mind, the blowback sent him all the way to atheistic secular humanism. I really can see how he got there, but my little mustard seed of faith would not permit me to join him there and I hope against hope (that’s not true – I actually prayed about it) for him to run across eWatchman and open his heart to Jehovah again. You are so wise, counselling me to literally ‘take time to smell the flowers”, as it were, and take a good long look while I’m at it. All your other points are great reminders if only ancillary to my “problem”. I’m the man saying “I have faith. Help me out where I need faith!”
        I believe you’re saying my faith will grow in proportion to to the depth of my consideration of Jehovah’s qualities as can be observed in His creation to the point where trusting Him is second nature. At some point a leap of faith will not be required because one realizes Jehovah is ALREADY walking beside us in faith. Yes?

        • Burt Reynolds

          Actually Richard, the point is not so much that your faith will grow as a result in looking to the evidence in creation, but that your insight into the personality of Jehovah, will become tangible and make him real for you as you say. By that I mean, in the same way as a child gets to know their parents…..through their responses, provision, behaviours and reliability. Physical rather than spiritual. We do not tend to determine motive and the inner person until much later. I used to be frightened to death of my father. 6ft 3″, built like a Welsh rugby player, a Victorian disciplinarian, brutal at times, but with a latent depth that reflected that he was not what he wanted to be. He was Terribly war damaged. It was only some sixty years later that I came to understand who he was, and to miss him terribly, that I also came to understand how generous, kind and loving he was, but was wracked with pain from cancer and Cirosis. Things were not as they seemed. Here now, we have Jehovah putting things to rights through a justice we can only dream about and do not fully grasp, but we overlook through choice or blindness, the outstanding evidence of his love. It can be masked by our pursuits of everyday needs and by the men of the watchtower. As Christ said. As with all people, we grow to love them by and through their deeds. When we see these things manifest, we begin to put faith in them. Faith is an assured expectation. We cannot be assured unless we know and love the person who is doing the assuring. ( I’m not wise either. I’ve been a fool all my life and very probably still am).

        • Burt Reynolds

          I think what you say describes the test to us all. Some, when disallusioned, depart from not just the watchtower, but Jehovah also. They do not see the paradox. That you have, if I may say so without sounding condescending, a mature insight in to the issue, is assurance enough that you have chosen the correct path to follow. It is enough for me for the same reason. The leap of faith has already been taken for all of us and we are still falling through the air. As the gravity of truth pulls us to our conclusion, likewise does the strength we put into our leap, assure us whether or not we will reach the other side. Faith is based on an assured expectation. It is neither knowledge or understanding that propels us, but hearing the voice in our heart. I suppose what the ears of the heart hear, is dependant on our motivation in love, the greatest of all things.

      • LW

        I thought this was an outstanding piece of testimony written by Reverend James Stalker: The Preacher As A False Prophet

        By the Rev. James Stalker, D.D.

        To: The Rev. Alexander Whyte, D.D.

        UPON anyone who is studying the physiognomy of the age of the prophets there is one disagreeable feature which obtrudes itself so constantly that even in the briefest sketch it is impossible to pass it by. This is the activity of the false prophets (1). It culminated in the lifetime of Jeremiah, whose whole career might almost be described as a conflict with them. Again and again he and they came to open war; and on at least one occasion the whole body combined to take away his life. Ezekiel was scarcely less afflicted by them. They were perhaps not so prominent an element in the life of Isaiah, but he also refers to them frequently; and, indeed, their sinister figures haunt the pages of all the prophets.

        It is a kind of humiliation to speak of them at all, and I would gladly pass them by; but the figure of the true prophet will rise before our eyes more clearly by the contrast of the false: and it is perhaps a duty to look also at the degradations to which our office is liable. The higher the honour attaching to the ministerial profession, when it is worthily filled, the deeper is the abuse of which it is capable in comparison with other callings; and its functions are so sacred that the man who discharges them must either be a man of God or a hypocrite. Yet there are plenty of motives of an inferior kind which may take the place of right ministerial aims. Though it is painful to speak of such things, yet here again the method which we have adopted in these lectures, of following the guidance of Scripture, may be leading us better than we could have chosen ourselves; and it may be wholesome to have to look at an aspect of our subject which of our own accord we would avoid.

        There are two things in Scripture which I have never been able to think of without strong movements of fear and self-distrust.

        One of them is that, when the Son of God came to this earth, He was persecuted and slain by the religious classes. His deadly opponents were the Scribes and Pharisees. But who were the Scribes and Pharisees? The Scribes occupied almost exactly the position in the community which is held among us by the literary, the scholastic and the clerical classes; and the Pharisees were simply what we should now call the leading religious laymen. Had they been adherents of a false religion, there would have been nothing surprising in their resistance to the final revelation of the true God. But the religion which they professed was the true religion; the Scribes were the expounders of the Word of God, and the Pharisees occupied the foremost places in the house of God.

        Yet, when the Son of Jehovah, whose name they were called by, appeared amongst them, they rejected Him and took away His life. Many a time, as I have followed Jesus step by step through His lifelong conflict with their ill will and contradiction, the question has pressed itself painfully upon my mind: If He were to come to the earth now and intervene in our affairs, how would the religious classes receive Him? and on which side would I be myself? If to any this question may seem fantastic, let them change it into this other, which cannot appear idle, though it means exactly the same thing: What is the attitude of the religious classes to the manifestations of the spirit of Jesus in the life of to-day? do they welcome them and back them up? or have the new ideas and movements in which Christ is marching onward to the conquest of the world to reckon on opposition, even from those who call themselves most loudly by His name?

        The other circumstance which has often affected my mind in the same way is that which comes before us to-day – that the true prophets of the Old Testament had to face the opposition, not of heathens, and not of the openly irreligious among their own countrymen only, but of those who had the name of God in their mouths and were publicly recognized as His oracles. To us these are now false prophets, because time has found them out and the Word of God has branded them with the title they deserve; but in their own day they were regarded as true prophets; and doubtless many of them never dreamed that they were not entitled to the name.

        They must have been a numerous and powerful body. Jeremiah mentions them again and again along with the king, the princes and the priests, as if they formed a fourth estate in the realm; and Zephaniah mentions them in the same way along with the princes, the judges, and the priests. They evidently formed a separate and conspicuous class in the community. They cannot have been equally bad in every generation; and there may have been many degrees of deviation among them from the character of the true prophet; but as a body they were false, and the true servants of God had to reckon them among the anti-religious forces which they had to overcome.

        This is an appalling fact – that the public representatives of religion should ever have been the worst enemies of religion; but it cannot be denied that even in Christendom, and that not once or twice, the same condition of things has existed.

        • Burt Reynolds

          This is quite a discussion. Thank you LW. I especially like the part where he shows that faith and truth are made more obvious the deeper the opposition of the false prophet. It is true, but only if that difference is illustrated and comes through Jehovah, and not man. It is a common habit to raise ones self up by denouncing the other. I recall at college years ago, a leaflet stuck on a pillar in the dining room that said, ‘seven days without prayer makes one weak’. Always, the emphasis was on failure, never upbuilding. It seems far more common that in the 19C clergy were more apt to question their faith than they, or even we, are. Today it is very much a profession as he points out, and yet truth is unrestrained by time and we have to question ourselves constantly as to our heart condition. Nice article. Thanks.

    • Beverly kenyon

      Read Daniel Genser’s story, well written, and I like question 6. My religion is true but it’s a controlling mess and thank goodness we know the reason why!

      • Richard Long

        Right, Beverly. The time span between reading Daniel Genser’s story and finding eWatchman was a harrowing experience, as that was the same time 1914 was deconstructed in my mind too. I was in total “question everything, trust Noone” mode.

        • Beverly kenyon

          Sorry Richard Long, I’ve posted you but I’ve sent it to myself! Ha! Sorry about that.

      • Beverly kenyon

        You talk about trust being your core issue, well I’m that type of person too. For me, once my trust in something or a person is broken there’s no going back for me. I will always be suspicious and wary and that’s how I feel about my religion…trust was broken even though I now know the reasons thanks to this site. Related to Daniel Genser’s story in some of the things he wrote about and really liked that question 6 he mentioned so Thank you for mentioning his story in your post…it was interesting.

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