who are the ten kings and what is the "hour of test" or last hour?

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  • Frank Conger
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    The 10 Kings of Revelation 17 and Daniel 7 do indeed come to power with “the beast” (which beast?) for the “last hour” or 1/12th in the case of a 12 hour Jewish day or 1/24th of a 24 hour prophetic “day” from sunset one day to sunset the next day.  This has not happened yet but the time for its occurrence will be here before you know it.

    The first thing that will happen has also been noted in Robert King’s latest article.  Satan has a rebellion on his hands (by his demons) since his being cast out of heaven (yes he has been here for some time now and is setting up his final play as I type, and he and his demons are human, no doubt they have possessed those in relative power here on earth as they did in the first century).

    When you see the destruction of the Nation State System (Satan’s preferred way of ruling) you will know that the rebellion in the spirit world is under way and it will simultaneously have real physical effects on this system.  The demons are going to manipulate the deep state of the United States and the U.K. and will destroy London and New York which are the heart of the Nation State system.  This is the fulfillment of the stone being cut from the mountain (of the current nation state system, by means of the deep state).  They will destroy the western system and eventually switch the power base to the Eastern Block Nations of the BRICS.  But, in the interim The U.S/UK, Russia will posture for power, but as Daniel 7 show us the power and authority will coalesce in the Brics (“and it was given authority to rule”). Here is the verse from Daniel 7— “After this I kept watching, and look! another beast, like a leopard,+ but on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. And the beast had four heads,+ and it was given authority to rule.   It is appropriate to use the symbol of the leopard as Russia, China, India, South America all have leopard in their territories and Brazil has a jaguar that is often confused for a leopard.  The Brics nations have set up a world bank and have set up an international money transfer system and they both are in working order for the transfer of power.  Remember it is God’s word that prophesies this shift of power from Anglo/America to the east and the BRIC nations.  But this transfer is only a short stop off on it’s way to the fourth beast of Daniel 7 that will be the tyrannical government over the world that the 10 kings will rule with for the “last hour”.

    When that last hour (concurrent with the hour of test) is over. The kingdom of God will destroy this terrible beast and set up the Kingdom of God.  This is the hour of test during which you will wish you had found the Congregation of Philadelphia, which is a real Congregation active on earth right now.  In Revelation 3: 7-11 this is explained for all to see:

     

    “To the angel of the congregation in Philadelphia write: These are the things he says who is holy,+ who is true,+ who has the key of David,+ who opens so that no one will shut and shuts so that no one opens: 8  ‘I know your deeds—look! I have set before you an opened door,+ which no one can shut. And I know that you have a little power, and you kept my word and did not prove false to my name. 9  Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews yet are not,+ but are lying—look! I will make them come and bow* before your feet and make them know that I have loved you. 10  Because you kept the word about my endurance,*+ I will also keep you from the hour of test,+ which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth, to put to the test those dwelling on the earth. 11  I am coming quickly.+ Keep holding fast to what you have, so that no one may take your crown.+’’

    Philadelphia will conquer the hour of the test by Jehovah’s mercy and love for them due to their faith.

    We are at a crucial point in Bible prophecy.  We will see it unfold very soon.  If you can’t find the congregation of Philadelphia for protection you must place all your faith in Jehovah and Jesus who can help you during this time.  When in doubt, let your love shine even in the midst of this tyranny.  Jesus will see your unwavering faith and will save you.

     

    Here is a quick synopsis…..

    Destruction of Anglo America, not by God’s Kingdom but by the rebellious demons and the deep state  (London and New York destroyed).  Russia (the bear) will rise up against the west now that the wings of Anglo America have been plucked off.  (Something catastrophic happens to their Air Forces, they are grounded Daniel 7:5.

     

    After a very short time Russian will acquiesce to the BRICS nations whom they are a part of who have been given “authority” based on Daniel 7:6  But the BRICS are only a holding card till the “image of the beast” which is the Son of the U.N. that has gone off into destruction due to the warring on earth.  But the new improved and tyrannical fourth beast is the beast that the ten kings will rule with for the last hour, then they all will be destroyed by the Kingdom of God.

    Read Daniel 7 very closely.  The Kingdom of God does not set up court until the fourth beast is already well established for some months.  The Kingdom of God does not destroy Anglo/America as represented by the image of Daniel 2.  The demons and the deep state do that.   They are the part of this current mountain of human rulership that is cut out by the “demons” (not with hands).  God’s Kingdom does not set up to rule until the fourth King is already in power over the whole earth.

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    disqus_n4PBaUkNlX
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    Are you saying that the stone that’s cut not by human hands is actually this system? By what authority do you claim these things? Bible is very clear about this.

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    ” Russia, China, India, South America all have leopard in their territories and Brazil has a jaguar that is often confused for a leopard.”

     

    So do Kenya and Zimbabwe. I’m not seeing your point. Animals depicted in the prophecy are used for their characteristics, not their habitat.

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    Frank Conger
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    Hi disqus_n4PBaUkNlX

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    You may or may not be aware of it but a great political change is happening on the earth and very soon there will be a shift of the whole economic system to the East.  Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa were among the very first to enter into this agreement for a new economic cooperative.  They have their own Central Bank and a funds transfer system for international transfer for payment systems for import/export.  The BRICS, as they are known (there are over 125 nations now in this cooperative, will soon take over the job that is currently being done by the Western Central Banks led by the Federal Reserve and the European Central Bank, which are the two largest and most influential for now.

    I have no man given authority to proclaim this and I am not looking for disciples.  I am simply putting into writing what I have learned over my 40+ years of being an ardent Bible student.  I was a JW and an Elder for nearly 30 years but left over the child abuse issue and the United Nations prostitution.  The Watchtower has never publicly repented for either sin, both being monstrous sins that should be repented for.  I have repented for my part in it as a publisher and a pioneer I unwittingly placed magazines written in a double tongue that promoted the U.N. as something good and not the enemy of God.  It will be a new and improved version of the U.N. that comes out of the abyss that will be the fourth beast of Daniel 7 (at least the modern fulfillment of that beast).  It is said to be the “image of the beast”, and the image of something is its Son.

    You have probably gotten your present understanding of Daniel 2 from the Watchtower and I can completely understand why it is so hard for you to get your mind around another interpretation of that scripture.  I must admit that I believed that interpretation up until a few years ago.  It was then that I truly appreciated how the Bible is written and therefore how to fully understand certain prophecies.

    One of the methods that Jehovah and his Holy Spirit use in writing many scriptures is the use of ambiguity, or a teaching or phrase that can be interpreted in different ways due to the ambiguity.  The “stone cut without hands” is a good example.  It does not specify who cuts the stone.  What I mean is it doesn’t say that Jesus cut the stone, or the Holy Spirit cut the stone, it simply says that the stone was cut “without hand”.  But, that being said it also does not say that the demons cut out the stone, but being angels they could certainly qualify.

    Now, if you couple the knowledge learned in Daniel 7 with this understanding of who cut the stone and what mountain it was cut out of, which is also ambiguous, you can arrive at a different conclusion than you are used to and it could satisfy the scripture as well or even better than the previous understanding.

    If you read Daniel 7 very closely you will see that the Kingdom does not come down to the earth to hold court until after the fourth beast (which will be the image of the beast after it comes out of the abyss ) not only appears but has set up a rulership over the entire earth (in fulfillment of Daniel 2 where the stone cut from the mountain destroys the Nation State System image of Daniel 2.

    “This is what he said: ‘As for the fourth beast, there is a fourth kingdom that will come to be on the earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms, and it will devour all the earth and will trample it down and crush it.+ 24  As for the ten horns, ten kings will rise up out of that kingdom; and still another one will rise up after them, and he will be different from the first ones, and he will humiliate three kings.+ 25  He will speak words against the Most High,+ and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.*+ 26  But the Court sat, and they took away his rulership, in order to annihilate him and to destroy him completely.+”.  You see, the Kingdom does not come to destroy the image of Daniel 2, that is done by the other possibility of the ambiguous way that it is written.  It never says that the Kingdom of God destroys the image, but it does say that it destroys the fourth beast of Daniel 7 which does not come until the last hour, when the ten kings rule with it for one hour.

    “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom+ that will never be destroyed.+ And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people.+ It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms,+ and it alone will stand forever”,+

    You see, in this often misinterpreted scripture it tells you explicitly when the Kingdom comes and who it destroys.  It comes “in the days of those kings”, which is not the Kings of the Image of Daniel 2 as they are all dead by then, including Anglo/America.   “Those kings” are the 10 kings of Daniel 7 that rule with the fourth beast of Daniel 7 for the “last hour”.

    As we are experiencing a coup in the United States with the “deep state” attempting to overthrow the duly elected government under Donald Trump who is a true Nation Stater, so I think this is simply an outward expression of what is also happening in the spirit realm or actually the spirits that have been cast down to earth.  I think they are attempting and will succeed in overthrowing Satan and his rulership by the Nation State System that he has ruled under since the time that there was a nation until this day, since the after flood period.  It started with Nimrod and Assyria and ends with the Anglo/American world power being destroyed by the demons in rebellion of Satan’s rulership.  Remember, the fourth beast of Daniel 7 is said to be “different from the rest of the beasts”.  It is not the most powerful Nation State, but is a truly worldwide beast, with representation of 10, then 11 of the top nations or the 10 that are chosen to represent this beast by the rest of the nations in the beefed up United Nations.  They will also have control of all the militaries in the world so “who can do battle with it.”

    It is the stone that is cut out of the mountain of this system that destroys the image of Daniel 2 due to the ambiguity of the saying.  We now that it is definitely the Kingdom that destroys the fourth beast of Daniel 7, so by the ambiguity principle of the Bible and how it is written, it must be someone else that destroys the image of Daniel 2.  There are two choices, the angels of Jesus and the Kingdom cuts out the stone or the demons do.  So, the answer to the ambiguity is they both do.  The demons cut out the stone that destroys the image of Daniel 2 and the Kingdom of God cuts out the stone from the mountain of God and the Kingdom that destroys the fourth beast of Daniel 7, but not until “the last hour” is finished.

    I am not in competition with Robert King.  I have never been and never will be.  He is the watchman to the Watchtower and I am not nor ever will be.  We do not have to be opposed to one another simply because we understand the scriptures differently.  That is the modus operandi of the Watchtower as only the Governing Body can truly understand the scriptures and the publishers should not even try, because if they do they will be “stoned” in a sense by dis-fellowshipping.  I truly admire the work that Robert King has done and continues to do, and the intestinal fortitude that it took on his part to do it.

    You have the understanding of the Watchtower and I think it is incorrect.  My reason for writing this is not to contradict brother King, but to put into writing another point of view on the possible meaning of the scriptures.  If it happens the way that I have laid out, you will then know for sure that my interpretation of God’s prophetic word was correct.  If not, you will know that too.  I simply want my brothers and sisters in the faith to know what is happening when it does so they are forearmed.

    Verse 45 is trying to revert you back to what was said in verse 34.  When the Bible says something ambiguous, both possible answers are true in some way.  Otherwise the scripture loses power and we know that that is an aspect of all scriptures is that they have “power”.  So, when Jehovah wants to say two things in the same scripture, he uses ambiguity and leaves it to the reader to figure out the ambiguity and how it applies to both meanings.

    I hope that explanation does not confuse you more but straightens out what I had to say initially.

    Frank

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    Frank Conger
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    I attempted to correct the salutation and something went quite wrong.  I hope you can still read it some how.

    Frank

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