Robert KingKeymasterMay 5, 2017 at 8:44 amPost count: 33SongofHannahKeymasterMay 5, 2017 at 9:11 amPost count: 67Robert KingKeymasterMay 5, 2017 at 9:16 amPost count: 33Frank CongerParticipantMay 6, 2017 at 2:02 pmPost count: 81HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 11, 2017 at 12:29 pmPost count: 30
We’ve been conversing a bit on narcissism already.
You have done some of your own research, I know. Good insight.
You are more gracious than I am because you seem to always seek to understand and are averse to judging. Good traits to have.
That being said I have to say that the “snowflake” epidemic seems to me to be a direct result of the rise of narcissism and the “self-esteem” movement. It has truly created a self-centric generation or two. If you google narcissism, it has become a pandemic of sorts, with far more narcissists in the population than ever before. “Lovers of themselves, self-assuming, haughty…you get my drift. It is the permissive non-disciplinary parenting and erroneous belief that good parenting is centering your life around the every whim of your child. I have to lament the loss of the time when the prevailing opinion was ” children should be seen and not heard”. Sounds like a harsh even neglectful belief, but think of the humility that would result from a child being shown that the world does not revolve around them and their parent’s needs are just as, if not more, important than their own. A bit turned on it’s head from the world we live in now, but I’d much rather live in a world filled with people with lowliness of mind rather than delusions of their own grandeur that they will fight to the death to keep.
I’ve been bringing up this idea of “gnashing teeth” quite a lot lately. Before Steven was stoned, he was breaking the delusion of quite a few ancient “snowflakes”. They couldn’t take him throwing stones at their glass houses. Even in the face of supernatural proof, they were unwilling to courageously face the truth and their own failings, repent and turn around as Paul humbly did. A basic case of stubborn haughtiness and a complete lack of humility.
It seems your good instincts perked up when you noticed this great rise in “snowflakes”. My concern is, that when the ‘pith hits the flan’, these seemingly innocent “snowflakes” will turn into nuclear reactors whose meltdown will mean not a few harsh words but vicious persecution for those of us who are willing to speak the truth even at the risk of our lives. (Gnashing their teeth at us.) Some experiences that I have had lately, along with Robert’s writings are making it clear to me that this is a battle all true christians must be prepared to face.HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 11, 2017 at 12:39 pmPost count: 30John 3:16ParticipantMay 11, 2017 at 2:13 pmPost count: 13
I’m so glad you brought up judging in your post. I used to listen to talk radio quite often and “snowflakes” were, and still are should I overhear a co worker’s radio, a popular topic. It does appear to be an epidemic, but remembering that these people are a product of Satan’s corrupt and morally bankrupt society is important. It’s no different than the tough as nails WW2 generation. They were products of the times, and it’s all for better or for worse with each individual generation. Of course each person is responsible for their own behaviour, but it is good to keep in mind that they, just like us, are a product of our upbringing and outside influences. Believe me, I’ve done my share of mocking people like this, but Jehovah has helped me see the error of my ways. I’m glad to see people here discussing it in a professional manner rather than cutting them down. It’s so easy to point fingers, and it will come back on us.John 3:16ParticipantMay 11, 2017 at 2:35 pmPost count: 13HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 11, 2017 at 7:09 pmPost count: 30HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 12, 2017 at 3:15 pmPost count: 30
Since John brought up some points on the changes that have occurred through the generations, I wanted to comment further on the topic.
A wonderful documentary comparing our modern time to the decline of Rome in what is aptly described as “The Age of Decadence” is available on Youtube. It’s called “The Four Horsemen” by Renegade, Inc. They are economists not evangelists so the analysis comes from a serious perspective and is very enlightening. All empires made up of imperfect humanity, at the height of their advancement, decline into immoral opulence, licentiousness, depravity, insensitivity, carelessness and selfishness. The decline is reflected not just among the ruling class but their subjects also.Think Belteshazzar in a drunken stupor partying with his grandees as the Medes are outside scaling the walls.
(This computer has a bad connection so I’m not sure if these links are working.) It has millions of views so it’s easy to find.
There is actually a good case in this for what Robert has said about 1914 and Satan not being hurled down then. I have never felt the true meaning of the Bible phrase “past all moral sense” until the past 10 years(2Peter 2:2). It has been maybe the past twenty that have shown an indisputable destruction of basic morality and the rise of insatiable greed. If you look into the mirror of humanity and see what is now acceptable through the media as entertainment (even for children) as compared to what was 50 years ago the degradation is jaw dropping. Think Lucy and Ricky Riccardo couldn’t even be shown in the same bed as a married couple.
2 Tim. 3 applies in the past 10 years with more indisputable prescience than in any time in human history. Men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, haughty, disloyal, disobedient, unthankful, self assuming….Those who strive to remain godly in this state of affairs are made to suffer even moreso in these critical times as such ones take undue advantage of their sense of responsiblity, goodness, willingness to trust and generosity. These times are critical for the reason that humans have become so selfish and depraved.
I am a teacher so I am able (in the microcosm of the classroom)to see how those who are self-centered and disobedient rob the mild-tempered, sincere and responsible ones. Teachers spend a large percentage of their time managing unruly uncooperative students at the great expense of sincere students who want to learn and need real help. It is a system where parents who can’t be bothered to discipline their children, children refuse to appreciate or respect authority and there are no consequences for actions. It is amazing that any learning takes place. The greatest losers are those who really want to learn. I’ve talked with many teachers who have spent their lives presiding over this decline.
Several decades ago, people knew their bibles. They attended church. They saw discipline as virtue. They were willing to sacrifice their personal welfare for the greater good. They had a modest view of their own value and importance in the world. That is gone. It is gone because God is gone in the hearts of this generation. The bible and a healthy fear of God, the great moral compass, has been craftily removed from mankind by Satan’s schemes and “The Age of Decadence”. What need does man have of God or his rules when they are living such grand lives in their own strength?
11“But that is the time to be careful! Beware that in your plenty you do not forget the Lord your God and disobey his commands, regulations, and decrees that I am giving you today. 12For when you have become full and prosperous and have built fine homes to live in, 13and when your flocks and herds have become very large and your silver and gold have multiplied along with everything else, be careful! 14Do not become proud at that time and forget the Lord your God, who rescued you from slavery in the land of Egypt. 15Do not forget that he led you through the great and terrifying wilderness with its poisonous snakes and scorpions, where it was so hot and dry. He gave you water from the rock! 16He fed you with manna in the wilderness, a food unknown to your ancestors. He did this to humble you and test you for your own good. 17He did all this so you would never say to yourself, ‘I have achieved this wealth with my own strength and energy.’ 18Remember the Lord your God. He is the one who gives you power to be successful, in order to fulfill the covenant he confirmed to your ancestors with an oath.<strong>
One news commentator once said about human nature, “if left to choose what they will do, most people will simply follow the crowd.” Ps 11:14 NASB
“Where there is no guidance the people fall.”
God is no longer the standard. Man looks to man for the standard and so degrades further and further with no one to check their fall. No man has the strength to stand up to depravity because they have no God or high moral standard to stand behind them.
Great distortions ensue.
As in the congregation of JW’s where elders are unsure if they should prosecute child abusers but are absolutely staunch in their stand against tight pants.
Or in the world….where the rights of a few transgenders to have their own bathrooms takes front page over the right of millions of children to daily have enough food to nourish their growing bodies. It’s “follow your own (treacherous) heart” (Jeremiah 17:9)and care only about what it’s popular to care about.
The Great Depression and the austerity of WWII shaped a generation of Americans. That generation was the last of those with a balanced sense of self and a strong sense of duty. After that, affluence increasingly bred indulgence and indulgence bred more and more selfishness. The impending economic collapse is recognized by many thinking economists as the direct result of the dying off of the WWII generation who were the last to comprehend the necessity of sound money management. I often refer to Harry Dent who studies demographics and can show through charts how it is that every 70/80 years we have a major economic crash because the generation that had learned the lesson of the previous collapse had died off and the new generation repeats the same reckless pattern as the former. It’s documented economic science.
The accumulation of “snowflakes” coincides with “The Age of Decadence”.
1Again a message came to me from the Lord: 2“Son of man, you live among rebels who have eyes but refuse to see. They have ears but refuse to hear. For they are a rebellious people.
Jehovah himself points out that he brought terrible destruction upon his own people due to their wickedness. Ezekiel was less disturbed about what happened to Judah when he met some of the exiles and saw their bad behavior for himself. he must have reasoned that they needed the correction. The same is true today.
21“Now this is what the Sovereign Lord says: How terrible it will be when all four of these dreadful punishments fall upon Jerusalem—war, famine, wild animals, and disease—destroying all her people and animals.
22Yet there will be survivors, and they will come here to join you as exiles in Babylon. You will see with your own eyes how wicked they are, and then you will feel better about what I have done to Jerusalem. 23When you meet them and see their behavior, you will understand that these things are not being done to Israel without cause. I, the Sovereign Lord, have spoken!”Frank CongerParticipantMay 14, 2017 at 11:32 amPost count: 81
That account about the feast with his 1000 grandees has prophetic significance for the apostate Watchtower. It doesn’t end well for many in the Watchtower. A good number will repent and come out to salvation when they are harvested by the angels, but many will cling to the lies and the liars that told them for decades. They are the daughter harlot that rode the beast and they have still never shown an iota of repentance toward God.
““‘Nevertheless, I do hold this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezʹe·bel,+ who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and misleads my slaves to commit sexual immorality*+ and to eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent, but she is not willing to repent of her sexual immorality.* 22 Look! I am about to throw her into a sickbed, and those committing adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with deadly plague, so that all the congregations will know that I am the one who searches the innermost thoughts* and hearts, and I will give to you individually according to your deeds.+” Revelation 2: 20-23
Jezebel is the GB members other than the chairman that act as an evil wife to the chairman who should be making the final decisions his self, but instead they evolved this in-scriptural governing body system of democracy that is not at all theocratic. She “misleads” “encourages Immorality with political orgs, promote eating things sacrificed to idols (watchtower and awakes promoting the goodness of the U.N. Charter). This is a serious un-repentant sin that Jezebel (GB) carries as well as all those that know of her sin who have not repented themselves. The judgment will be harsh but lovingly given. Jehovah will forgive if they truly repent. It will not stave off the disciplining but will negate their sin.
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