Frank CongerParticipantNovember 27, 2017 at 1:36 pmPost count: 74
I don’t think that the call of peace and security is going to be at the start of the great tribulation. There will be anything but “peace and security?” to the time leading up to and just after the great tribulation. It will be in reaction to all the fuss and muss of the great tribulation which will distill the nations to join in one tyrannical security world government. After this tyrannical government is in action for a while, perhaps a 10 months or so (a month for a horn) they will have achieved their goal of peace and security through outright tyranny. This is when the Kingdom of God comes as seen in Daniel 7. God’s Kingdom does not come in the beginning it is clear but after the fourth beast has fully established itself and gotten rid of all the “trouble makers” that it can.
FrankseekerforgodskingdomParticipantNovember 27, 2017 at 3:25 pmPost count: 11
********* They Are Saying “Peace and Security!” **********
Where is to happen/take place this event ? in the world , or within God’s people ?
Jesus brought something new (from His and ours Father ) : the knowledge of the Father’s purpose and will :
to have worshipers “with spirit and with truth”
a worshiper “with spirit” is that one who observe strictly the will of the Father in each action , because the Father is the Spirit
Father has commanded us to obey His Son :”This is my beloved Son, Listen to Him !”
And the Son said : “Your word is TRUTH ”
Jesus knew Father’s clearly expressed “will” regarding the time and the frame of “end-time prophecies” ,
as it were declared to Daniel ( cap 10 )
14. “Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen
— to your people
— in the latter days,
for the vision pertains to the days yet future.”
So, it is very clear , Jesus conformed Himself to Father’s will , and everything he preached from old prophecies , He put it in relations with “God’s people” !
His apostles followed Him in this way , because this means to “abide” or to “remain” in the Teaching of Christ ! …
….the only way to HAVE BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON !
9. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God;
the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
WHEN apostle Paul wrote the inspired words in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 , he surely knew Father’s will toward Jesus’ followers , and acted accordingly !
SO , the cry “Peace and security” MUST HAVE ITS FULFILMENT within God’s people , toward the end of the “latter days”
WHO are THEY who cry “peace and security” ?
They are some who ” had been of us … but they were not really of us” !
1 John 2
19. They went out from us, but they were not really of us;
for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us;
but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
Who are “of us” the apostle John is speaking about here ?
..”of us” are the anointed brothers of Christ , the co-followers with apostle John , who all where “abiding” in the Teaching of Christ ! (2 John9 )
… and those who “were not really of us” are those called “weeds” , workers of LAWLESSNESS , who “will secretly introduce destructive heresies” …
2 Peter 2
1. But false prophets also arose among the people (of God ), just as there will also be false teachers among you,
who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them,
bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
SO , these ones who ” had been of us … but they were not really of us” CONSTITUTES themselves in the group called “FALSE PROPHET”
LET us find what was prophesied regarding these “false prophets”
16. Thus says the LORD of hosts,
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the LORD.
17. “They keep saying to those who despise Me,
‘The LORD has said, “you will have peace “‘; (the cry for : PEACE )
And as for everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart,
They say, ‘Calamity will not come upon you.’ ( the cry for SECURITY )
DO we understand now what the cry “peace and security” IS ?
This CRY comes from these prophets whom JEHOVAH SENT NOT !
They (the Gov.Body and those editing the “spiritual food” or interpretations ) are desperately TRYING TO ASSURE those believing THE LIE (despising Jehovah / walking in the stubbornness of their own heart, idolatrizing the WT and the FDS ) THAT THEY WILL HAVE PEACE AND SECURITY from Jehovah’s part if they will continue to follow themselves (the FALSE PROPHETS) and to remain in the so-called “God’s earthly organization”!
BUT SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS TO BE INSTANTLY UPON THEM (both the false teachers and their -conscious- followers) !
Nowaday there is a spiritual fight between the “spiritual leadership” of “organization” and the real “brothers of Christ”, I mean the “least ones” (Matt 25:40 / Revelation 17:14 )
in this battle the “Fds” uses interpretations of God’s word in order to consolidate their own (and their organization) positions , interpretations that comes not from God’s Holy Spirit .
These “private interpretations” invented and used in order to deceive are named in Bible “sorceries” – 1 Timothy 4:1 / Isaiah 57:3 / Isaiah 47:9 / Rev 21:27 / Rev 22:15
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