Jesus' Presence – will it really be like "Lightning"?

//Jesus' Presence – will it really be like "Lightning"?
Jesus' Presence – will it really be like "Lightning"? 2017-04-11T10:09:40+00:00

Jehovah’s Witnesses watchman Forums Watchman Forum Jesus' Presence – will it really be like "Lightning"?

Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • Robert King
    Keymaster
    Post count: 33

    Not all lightning is sky to ground. In fact, most lightning is cloud to cloud and can be seen from a great distance. I take Jesus’ comparison to mean that the chosen ones will not have to travel to any location on earth to find him. He will not be in the wilderness or inner rooms as the false prophets will declare. His presence will be un-containable, like the lightning that streaks across the whole sky, so that those to whom he wishes to reveal himself will see his presence.

    2+
    SongofHannah
    Keymaster
    Post count: 62

    Not all lightning is sky to ground. In fact, most lightning is cloud to cloud and can be seen from a great distance.

    Thanks for correcting me on that, Robert. But that’s not the thing that really bothers me about it. Oddly, of this light, Jesus states specifically that it “comes out of the east and shines over to the west”. Yet as a rule, lightning is completely random (not to mention being fleeting and transitory). But a shining “day star”, why it would fit this statement perfectly. And that along with the use of astrapé for a lamp in Luke 11:36 has me pretty convinced.

    I take Jesus’ comparison to mean that the chosen ones will not have to travel to any location on earth to find him. He will not be in the wilderness or inner rooms as the false prophets will declare. His presence will be un-containable, like the lightning that streaks across the whole sky, so that those to whom he wishes to reveal himself will see his presence.

    I like your explanation too. 🙂

    1+
    Robert King
    Keymaster
    Post count: 33
    Dustman
    Participant
    Post count: 12

    I think that Jesus was just making a comparison.
    He said first that there would be “false” signs. Signs that could be misinterpreted as being true. Then he referred to a sign that no one could misinterpret. A flash of lightning. Probably he had in mind sheet lightning rather than a lightning bolt. So the “presence of the son of man” would be so blindingly obvious that there could be no mistake. No question that it could be one of the false signs mentioned before. Something that everyone would have to acknowledge rather than open to debate or argument.

    5+
    StudyPartner
    Participant
    Post count: 8

    I find your research enlightening 😉 and it gave me some…deeper?…perspective on these 3 scriptures…

    Prov. 4:18
    Ps. 53:2
    Dan. 12:3

    Fun stuff! Thank you for sharing your research!

    2+
    SongofHannah
    Keymaster
    Post count: 62

    Thanks ‘Partner! Really like your scripture of Prov 4:18, hadn’t thought of that one! Ties it together even more for me. 🙂

    1+
    John 3:16
    Participant
    Post count: 13

    🙂 Keep up the good work Song of Hannah. I think you’re on the right track. Keep praying to Jehovah for insight and don’t let anybody discourage your thought process. I think people are starting to wake up…

    2+
    John 3:16
    Participant
    Post count: 13
    HuldahtoHilkiah
    Participant
    Post count: 30

    That was some real mental gymnastics Song of Hannah. Good for you!
    Really fascinating. When you mentioned about it rising over the east moving into the west, I also thought of the sun (it’s a star anyway) and it’s light is totally pervasive even though it itself can only be seen in whatever place it resides at that moment.

    I also immediately thought of Peter’s words 2Peter 2:19. “Pay attention to it as as lamp shining in a dark place until day dawns and a daystar rises”.

    Didn’t Robert use this scripture to apply to Jesus’ parousia? Correct me, if I’m wrong, Robert, I’m going from memory here.

    It’s interesting that he likens his presence to both (if we use the star translation of astrape) a star that rises over the east to the west and a daystar, which I think of as the sun. The only star we see in the daytime.

    I’m not sure how Luke 17:20 applies if this is the case because it says “the kingdom is not coming with striking observableness”.

    I’m starting to think that this section of scripture has been misinterpreted for a long time. I just wrote a comment on vs 37 about what I found on the “eagle and carcass” reference.

    And…as I was looking at that, I was reminded that I had found some information on the one taken and the other abandoned reference which seems to actually indicate that the one who is “taken” is destroyed while the one “left behind” is saved. Bible Hub presents some good translation and commentary on this one too. All this popular talk about the rapture has us thinking being left behind is a bad thing. I always shared Prov. 2:21 with rapture people about righteous being left over in the earth. There is a lot of precedence for the wicked being the ones taken away.

    I know there’s something big here, just not clear on it. But your research adds to the intrigue.

    2+
    Bklyn Kevin
    Participant
    Post count: 18

    Roberts quote > Not all lightning is sky to ground. In fact, most lightning is cloud to cloud and can be seen from a great distance.
    I take Jesus’ comparison to mean that the chosen ones will not have to travel to any location on earth to find him. He will not be in the wilderness or inner rooms as the false prophets will declare. His presence will be un-containable, like the lightning that streaks across the whole sky, so that those to whom he wishes to reveal himself will see his presence.
    Job 38:35 Can you send out lightning bolts? Will they come and say to you, ‘Here we are!’

    3+
    Frank Conger
    Participant
    Post count: 130
Viewing 11 posts - 1 through 11 (of 11 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Skip to toolbar