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  • HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    While your listening to Robert’s podcasts on Podbean, strole on over to Kerry Lutz’s Financial channel and listen to his interview of Chris Martenson, Prepare, Prepare. Well worth 20 minutes of your time just for the good quotes.

    Robert has connected the economic collapse as a possible catalyst for all things to unravel. I have little doubt that is the case.

    Any others who see the tsunami that’s about to hit and want to share their insights?

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    HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    Don’t see an edit button so I’m adding a bit of detail to my post by replying.

    Another great video to look at is “The Four Horsemen” documentary on Youtube. It isn’t biblical , but it details the stages and signs of the fall of an empire and the age of decadence as the last stages of decline. It shows clearly how we are there.

    If you want to be enlightened, these are two great places to start besides this site, of course.

    The banksters have turned the stock market into a casino by creating 2 quadrillion of essentially valueless investments called derivatives. The system is able to keep these bets afloat because the wheels are still grinding. Just one snag and the whole thing collapses. Think 1930’s bank run on steroids. Most of the big banks have around 500 billion of these pseudo assets sitting on their books. We don’t really need a nuclear bomb, when we have a financial bomb. Think The Great Depression on steroids.

    Robert has mentioned that he sees the banksters literally taking over all of the assets in the world through debt arbitrage. Perhaps a banker controlled dictatorial world government. Very plausible.

    Remember all those people who lost their homes in “08? Why? Because their home values were below their loans and it was no longer logical to keep paying. Who ended up with the real estate and never had to pay their own debts? The bankers, yep.

    Ever seen a sign that says “Bank Owned”. Go ahead, enlarge it and paste it on planet earth. All those $30,000 trucks the high school juniors are buying, the empty shopping malls, the stocks bought on margin, and if you think the gold you have holed up in that Bunker in the Swiss Alps is safe, you’ve got another thing coming.

    Oh yeah, and remember real estate….
    The most credible analysts say that real estate will fall back to the pre-boom levels of 2000. So who will be holding the bulk of the debt financed real estate in the end? Two words. “Bank Owned”.

    As the bible says, “the borrower is a slave to the lender”. In Jehovah’s mind, it’s ‘let God be found true though every man be found a liar’.

    The whole world has been on a multi decade debt party that dwarfs the roaring 20’s and the punch bowl is about to be taken away in a big way.

    It seems that the fate of every government is fast becoming the same fate as Greece. The US government bailed out the banks, but who will bail out the debt-laden US govt?
    The EU bailed out Greece, but who will bail out the EU? London is a financial mecca. What happens to it when all of finance lies in ruins?

    The fall of the Anglo American world power without a shot fired. Einstein could not have devised the formula for a more effective weapon than the avarice of men.

    What do you see coming?

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    Bklyn KevinBklyn Kevin
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    Anonymous – They are preparing for what comes next… (WW3 2017-2018)

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    HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    Good videos. Glad you posted them here. I did already watch all but the Anonymous one. I read an article on the exact video by Anonymous, though, just yesterday. So we are all on the same page.

    I know Robert writes on this topic. What is so amazing to me is that about a year ago, I became obsessed with this topic, found it so encouraging that all the supposed financial “wisdom” of this world is just a bunch of bunk. It seems like I am not alone in the interest. It’s unbelievable that I found Robert here, writing and speaking on these very things and tying them to prophecy in such a clear way.

    I come from a very Laodicealike town. Statistically, the wealthiest state in the country. When my husband and I decided to simplify, we took great financial risks in doing so, leaving behind Satan’s “secure” system, steady well paying jobs and a very comfy home that was rising in value to pioneer in a tiny remote town in the 2nd poorest state in the country. It was a great leap of faith. It has been wickedly difficult to keep up this fight ever since.

    As a young honest-hearted witness, I assumed others would be inspired by what we did and want to put more trust in Jehovah, joining the fight to obey Christ’s admonition to keep our eye simple and focus on the kingdom. Instead, we were met with opposition and indifference. One elder was particularly insidious in this efforts to undermine our resolve to turn our backs on the so-called “security” and “opportunities” that Satan’s world provides. He pointed out the real estate windfall we were giving up by selling our home. He enjoyed pointing out the million dollar homes rising and rising in value in the area, when we were out in service. He resented the fact that we put the question of what “keeping your eye simple” really means front and center. Of course, he’s proving to be a lovely landlord to the many brothers and sisters who happily pay exhorbitant rents for the small apartments and townhomes that he has collected during the real estate boom. He wasn’t the only one, just the most glaring example.

    I have a point in telling this story. While this brother has enjoyed creature comforts and glory from men for a short time, Jehovah and Christ are not fools or misers for asking us to store up treasures in heaven not one earth. And why…because “moth and rust consume”.
    Satan is not a trustworthy custodian of those things we spend storing up in his system. His banksters reflect his personality. He will dangle those carrots in front of us for the sole purpose of distracting us from putting any real effort into knowing our God. Then he will rip the carrot away, leaving us salivating over a reward that will never come, all the while “gnashing our teeth” that we were deceived. will it mean our life? ‘It is harder for a rich man to get into the kingdom than a camel through the eye of a needle.’ This IS a hyperbole, but Jesus said it for a reason.

    We modern men believe that we are beyond the reach of “moth and rust”. We have our insurances, our financiers, our bank(st)ers, our ever burgeoning stock market and all our friends who tell us (CJB Is.56:12)
    “Come, I’ll get some wine, we’ll fill up on good, strong liquor! Tomorrow will be like today; in fact, it will be even better!”.

    For me, it is very gratifying to see Jehovah’s words and advice prove to be true ‘though every man be a liar'(Rom. 3:4). How many young people in the congregation have I seen who were misdirected to put their trust in the future of this world? How many have I seen who have fought and suffered to keep from falling prey to distraction, struggling and stumbling over the many stumbling blocks inside the congregation?
    Jehovah is about to discredit Satan’s system as a ‘lying refuge’ (Is. 28:15) through this economic collapse. The energy, time, dedication and devotion that some have put into it’s furtherance will be proven to be the greatest folly in history. Satan will be shown to have been the most diabolical thief to have stolen our attention and time away from building up a fire resistant (1 Cor.3:12)spirituality and making a good name for ourselves with Jehovah by our willingness to put our full trust in him (Prov. 22:1, 2 Sam. 22:26).

    Our real security is our relationship with Jehovah. Satan is a liar.

    Luke 12:16
    16And he told them a parable, saying, “The land of a rich man produced plentifully, 17and he thought to himself, ‘What shall I do, for I have nowhere to store my crops?’ 18And he said, ‘I will do this: I will tear down my barns and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain and my goods. 19And I will say to my soul, “Soul, you have ample goods laid up for many years; relax, eat, drink, be merry.”’ 20But God said to him, ‘Fool! This night your soul is required of you, and the things you have prepared, whose will they be?’ 21So is the one who lays up treasure for himself and is not rich toward God.”

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    Bklyn KevinBklyn Kevin
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    Let’s not fall victim like some do and keep our eyes on the prize.

    The First to Timothy
    6:1-219 But those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare+ and many senseless and harmful desires that plunge men into destruction and ruin.+ 10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.+

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    DustmanDustman
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    The recent ransomware attacks show just how easy it is to create an economic collapse. Just imagine all the stock market and banking computers being held to ransom. Wouldn’t take long for a meltdown

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    HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    That’s big news.
    Looks like the NSA found a weakness in Windows they could use for survellience, but let it get hacked. This is the most comprhensive attack I’ve ever heard of.

    In the news today in the LA Times along with this is that they are registering the irises and fingerprints of everyone in India into a database. 9/10 are complying already. India represents what will happen everywhere. Outlawing cash, biometric databases…..
    Venezuela is another example of whats coming.

    It’s all accelerating this year.

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    Frank CongerFrank Conger
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    Hi B, Kevin:

    Is that a real picture of you and are you really from Brooklyn? If so, I am just south of you in the city of brotherly love in Philadelphia.

    Frank

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    Frank CongerFrank Conger
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    The U.S. and U.K. are going to strike themselves down via their own deep state who are working in alliance with the Globalists that see the need to transfer control of the banking system of the world from West to East. Also, they can use the opportunity to “teach populist’s a lesson”. You must not rebel against the globalists or you suffer the consequences big time. It’s not going to be good. The stone that is cut not by hands is the deep state and they are being controlled by the demons. It is the demons who cut this stone from the Mountain of man’s governments not God cutting it out of his Mountain as his Mountain has not risen yet.

    Plus, Daniel 7 tells us quite clearly that the Kingdom of God which is clearly identified contrary to the identification of the “stone”, the Kingdom destroys not the image of Daniel in chapter 2 but the fourth king of Daniel 7 which is actually the eighth king who will only be around for a short time. The “stone” will strike the feet of the image which are the U.S. foot and the U.K. foot.

    This attack will serve two purposes. It will launch the new “final solution” and it will be a welcoming party for the Kingdom of God. While the nations are fighting this out and killing each other Jesus’ angels will be harvesting the faithful and taking them to the mountain of God for safe Keeping.

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    HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    Russia has less GDP than Texas does.
    Chinas demographics are leading them off a “demographic cliff” similar to what happened to Japan in the late 80’s ( Remember how Japan was going to take over the world?)

    Not that they can’t trigger ww3 but they aren’t as powerful as it looks.
    They’re living on BORROWED (DEBT) time just like everyone else. Pun intended.

    Looks like everyone’s gonna crumble and the bankster puppeteers are going to swoop in from the shadows like vultures to collect the spoils.

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    Frank CongerFrank Conger
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    The Western banking system is completely insolvent. Magic tricks are keeping things going. We have been operating on the petro dollar since globalist puppet Nixon took the U.S. off the gold standard. When he disobeyed the globalists about tariffs he was framed for his part in Watergate.

    The next banking system will be backed by Gold, Silver and commodities. The Western countries have little of those items with most of it being sucked to the East over the last 45 years. China alone is reported to have as much as 40,000 tons of pure gold, India has less but a sizable amount, Russia has also been stockpiling precious metals for this day. Gold will rise to somewhere near 10000 dollars and ounce and silver to about 400 dollars and ounce. That would back the new renmibi gold backed notes that will be required for any global trade. Shippers are already at times turning down Treasury Notes for payment as they know they are close to worthless already. The U.S. and the U.K. will be thrust into the third world overnight. Buckle up your seat belt and be sure to listen for the voice of the true shepherd who is about to call you all out of tribulation.

    Frank

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    HuldahtoHilkiahHuldahtoHilkiah
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    I know that’s the popular notion especially among Gold Bugs and those that believe in China’s “Economic Miracle
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-economic-miracle-is-over-2017-03-10
    Just one of many articles Harry Dent is also on youtube and offers some very solid info on this subject.

    Anlo Am is gonna fall it appears, but china doesn’t have a big future either. Even Robert has said this.

    I do have some credentials and a couple years deep personal study on this matter. Im a CPA and have a bachelors in Accounting. I mainly left this career behind to pioneer but I did managed to work about ten years in tax accounting so I’m no slouch with the numbers and the ins and outs of business. Substitute teach snd run a small home business now. ‘Cause I don’t believe in the system at all.

    I recommend the book Gold Bubble by Yoni Jacobs on Audible if you like.
    It’s a completely game changing ob gold.

    I was sold on gold a few years ago, but did deeper study into the facts and found that the pack mentality that exists toward it has another explanation.
    Harry Dent explains fairly well in his interviews for free on Youtube. Two words deflation and bubble.

    China is just a bigger Japan in a way worse time to be a big Japan.

    When the dominoes fall, they all go down together. I know about their gold. It won’t save them. When the dollar goes, the powers that be will want something way more controllable than gold like electronic world currency.
    Robert Schiller is also good.
    Dig deeper. The crowd is always influential, but usually wrong.

    “One thinking man in a crowd worth a thousand men!”

    Mehmet Murat ildan

    Matthew 15
    14 Let them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”+

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