HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 15, 2017 at 10:13 pmPost count: 30
Anybody else ever heard this line?
About 8 years ago an elder came back from one of his many prestigious visits to Bethel with the “inside” information that one of the GB had said the above.
Of course, to all witnesses, it was carved in stone once said.
I gathered from the glee in his eyes that he took it to mean that if you are in the truth when the GT breaks out, Jehovah will bring you through Armageddon.
Basically party right into the new world.
Of course, it didn’t sit right with me even then.
Anybody ever heard this quote?SongofHannahKeymasterMay 16, 2017 at 7:52 amPost count: 69
I remember hearing that too! Just can’t remember when or where I heard it… perhaps it was in a talk at a convention? Maybe in 2010 when the Jeremiah book came out? Due to this paragraph?
Jeremiah Book, (jr) chap. 6
P 18 “To the Rechabites, obeying their long-dead ancestor was important. With even greater diligence, true worshippers should obey the commands of the living God. The Rechabites’ resolve to obey impressed Jehovah, and it stood in stark contrast to the Jews’ disobedience. God promised the Rechabites protection from the coming calamity. Applying that lesson today, is it not reasonable that those who strictly obey Jehovah are assured of his protection during the great tribulation?—Read Jeremiah 35:19.
Funny, but a few chapters later, it seems to say the opposite. Almost like the book was written by two different authors….lol
Chap. 9, p 112
Par 18 We need to remember that what Jehovah has promised as a spoil is our “soul.” Even if a few of his servants perish in the persecution that may come during “the great tribulation” when the political horns of the wild beast turn against religion, those faithful ones will not really have lost out. Their “soul” is guaranteed to live again to enjoy “the real life,” in the new world. (Rev. 7:14, 15; 1 Tim. 6:19) We can rest assured, however, that most of God’s servants who prove faithful at that time will come out of the great tribulation. You can be sure that when God brings calamity against the nations, no faithful one will be among “those slain by Jehovah.”—Jer. 25:32, 33.HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 16, 2017 at 11:53 amPost count: 30
I want to say an annual meeting back when only the privileged few got to hear them and you got those little printouts of the notes from someone who was there and nice enough to put them together for us peons.
Glad you put those excerpts from the Jeremiah book in your post. Thanks.
Interesting contradiction.Frank CongerParticipantMay 18, 2017 at 1:23 pmPost count: 68
It’s a bit of a silly thought to think that just making it “to” the great tribulation would ensure your survival. It is the test brought upon mankind, it is the separating of the sheep and the goats. One way of seeing who are sheep and who are goats is how people react to the test of the mark which is a faith test. Another way of testing that will be done is the Love test. When Christ’s belongings are being put under great test and are starving or need shelter from the weather, but you extending them such love might mean your life, what do you do?
Generally those with faith will act in faith but it is not assured until that time. Likewise, some of those that lack proper faith will also receive the love test, which will also place them with the sheep should they pass. To offer love to someone with the chance of death is the greatest of love or very close, and at this time the quality of love has even more value than faith.
Now, however, these three remain: faith, hope, love; but the greatest of these is love.+ 1 Cor. 13:13
When Jesus comes it will not be as hard to exercise faith in Jesus and our hope will have been realized by then, but under penalty of death it will be very hard to show love to his belongings. So, love will be the most difficult decision and is rewarded by Jesus and his Father.HuldahtoHilkiahParticipantMay 19, 2017 at 8:26 pmPost count: 30
Yes Frank, I agree.
It is quite a delusion the congregation is under in that they seem to think they just need to “hold on”, as one witness family member puts it. So many are under the impression that the only tests we are going to face are the ones in this time of peace normal problems like family, health, money, discouragement. No serious tests of faith that single us as witnesses out.
There is this idea that the Great Tribulation is a test or hardship, but it’s vague and unclear. Wishful thinking easily dispels the thought as ones simply assume Jehovah will step in and save them just in time.Frank CongerParticipantMay 25, 2017 at 10:34 pmPost count: 68
Hi H to H:
Jehovah is about to discipline the Watchtower and his wrath will be directed at those responsible for the unfaithfulness. But then he plans to “heal the breakdown of my people”. I think that the tribulation is directed at the unfaithful. There may not be any way to escape some peripheral damage but if you continue to trust in Jehovah and remain faithful to him, I do think he will protect you.
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