- Bklyn KevinMemberFebruary 25, 2017 at 10:32 amPost count: 2SongofHannahKeymasterFebruary 26, 2017 at 8:48 amPost count: 55
This is a great subject to start out with, Bro Kevin.
Although considered an active Witness (barely) it’s difficult to go out in the officially sanctioned field service these days, because of the enormous guilt of the WT. I just feel like I am wearing soiled garments now… there is very little freeness of speech (but that is the subject matter for another thread).
But I have been trying to find other stumbled brothers, sisters & unbaptized ones online (who post their stories on various ex-jw sites), and contact them in some way, whether it be privately or replying to a post they’ve made. The objective being to share with them how prophecy outlined exactly what we’re seeing today. Maybe they will be interested enough to find our budding faithful congregation here, which is a testimony of God’s love for us, straight off. Also posting links to the book or some of the articles, depending on the subject. Hoping they might see the scriptures with eyes of faith.
Not sure if any of the ones I’ve contacted actually listened and came by to take a peek, but I know I would have been eternally grateful, had someone shared these things with me. (I was just fortunate to run across Robert’s book when searching for ideas on a scriptural question, but I really do believe Jehovah led me here.)
I also try to share whatever I can with friends in our congregation (just going far enough to keep getting thrown out of the synagogue). I have developed a few conversation starters thru trial & error, that I have used to get ones thinking events might not turn out the way the GB has been expecting. And hubby & I have tried to obtain the addresses of inactive ones so we can go visit them, but no-one ever follows up with us on the requests. Frustrating. There really does seem to be a disdain for anyone inactive these days. But now that you’ve brought this up, I am going to make an effort to be more diligent, and also make it a matter of supplication, that Jehovah help us obtain the addresses of these ones.Adrew_arakeParticipantFebruary 26, 2017 at 9:39 amPost count: 7
españolWhat a beautiful theme Kevin …. at this moment I am not active in the congregation and I have received bad looks from the brothers. I do not know if I would come back and help some or try to help from outside. I have spoken with the elders about some issues but their looks are suspicious. I enter YouTube a lot and look for videos that speak without understanding what happens in the people of God to try to correct. At this time I speak with a brother from Mexico and try to help clear that he does not know that I am a witness of jehova (like the Gibeonites)DustmanParticipantMarch 3, 2017 at 9:45 pmPost count: 12
This kind of question has surfaced before on various forums. It always gives me some angst when I read it. I am one of those you could refer to as being “brought up in the troof” to coin a phrase. I am also what you might call an “active” witness in that I attend all the meetings, go on field service, and am appointed as a ministerial servant. I was an Elder for a few years at one time but circumstances arose which led to me not being an Elder. Up to the year 1995 I was kind of happy. I felt that I was in Jehovah’s organisation and that I was in a privileged position to be so. My life basically revolved around the so called “spiritual” activities and I was happy to follow the lead of what was referred to as the “Faithful and Discreet Slave class.” (You will be surprised how many spell it as “discrete”). Then came the internet. At first I was of a mind that it was not a good place to be. One public speaker (who was a well-known missionary) once referred to it as “Satansnet” and it was to be avoided at all costs. Treat it like the plague. Howeve,r I am a curious kind of person so eventually I wanted to see what all this was about. So I bought my first computer and connected. Life was never the same again. Gradually I came across sites that revealed things about the organisation I was not even aware of. Things which I started to feel were being deliberately withheld from the average Joe witness like myself. One of them being the removal of a number of “high-up’s” in the 80’s like Ray Franz and the discovery of his book, which I am sure all of you know. I was also freed of guilt over some of the doubt that I had about various doctrines but never expressed how I felt to anyone because of my belief that all will be fine and dandy as we have the “troof”, so “put up and shut up” was the maxim. But when the “generation teaching” was changed in 1995 it was like a tsunami wave. My whole approach to life hinged on the 1914 generation not passing away before the end. But that was now in question. But it also was a relief because I deep down felt that it was not right. That it just didn’t make sense. However, I wanted to believe it as it meant that I would not grow old in this old system. Now we have the overlapping generation teaching, which to be honest, makes me burst out laughing. How can anyone treat it as “truth”? Anyway to cut a long story short, I now find myself in a position of limbo. (I am not sure if that is the right word to use but I can’t think of a better word). I find myself in a position where I can see the 1914 hoax( as Robert succinctly puts it) and other stumbling blocks. So while I am attending meetings (which for me is necessary due to family ) I try to subtlety engage those in conversation who I believe might have some inclination to listen to something other than what is being presented from the platform. Just simple comments like “I find the overlapping generation teaching pretty difficult to figure out. How about you?” If they want to continue I just listen and see how far I can go with that particular person. Softly softly …as they say. Actually I have been surprised sometimes that the person is relieved to be able to express something that they have been keeping to themselves. I wonder how many like that in my congregation. We shall see.Ken_RosenbergParticipantMarch 7, 2017 at 2:55 pmPost count: 35rlong9000ParticipantMarch 23, 2017 at 4:32 amPost count: 8
Dustman – My guess is that EVERY thinking individual in EVERY congregation is at some point along that “slippery slope” where they realize the WT is down to just pulling it out of their ass, but just don’t know how to process it. The realization that the WT is now actively lying to the congregations is nothing short of trauma. The following is a detailed chronicle of one fine brother’s faith being run into the ditch, perhaps irreparably.Frank CongerParticipantMarch 23, 2017 at 3:06 pmPost count: 46
The walls of Jericho (the Watchtower) are about to come tumbling down and the faithful trapped inside their lawlessness will flee to true salvation. Yes, Jericho was the first city that was conquered when the Israelites entered into the promised land and the judgment of today will start with the Watchtower which e-watchman has been saying since his beginning as the prophet of judgment to the Watchtower.
It is true that the Watchtower was used by Jehovah God to gather the remaining ones of the Bride of Christ on earth and they did that. But, somewhere along the line imposter’s who entered into her perverted that mission and the sin was committed with the U.N. that has never been faced up to by the Watchtower. They have been rejected by God like Judaism was at Christ’s sacrifice and now they are to be destroyed as the Temple in Jerusalem was in 70 C.E. .
This will not be done by men but by Christ himself through his Bride who will bring destruction upon the Watchtower and provide them escape to safety. This is especially true for the remaining ones of that Bride still trapped in the Watchtower. But they will recognize the voice of Jesus (his bride, his flesh, so constructively him) and will come out and according to Revelation they “follow him wherever he goes”.
Listen for his voice. If you are indeed one of his sheep you will know what to do when you hear it.disqus_3TyqEHvHhTParticipantMay 2, 2017 at 4:57 amPost count: 1
Hello all, I’ve just joined this forum. Over the last few years I’ve begun to wake up to the hypocrisy in the organization. Some teachings which were so easily swallowed by all witnesses were hard for me to digest (overlapping generation??). There are many other teachings that I question but they could make posts on their own merit. I now find myself struggling as to how I can go out in service and preach a message I now doubt whilst at the same time believing in the basic Bible truths (no trinity etc). How can I direct ones to obey the GB when I don’t think they are really the FDS ? If the GB tell the congregations to jump the majority of JWs will ask “How high ?” As for me, my response is “Why ?”
I don’t believe in blind obedience without scriptural authority but then again the GB is adept at making the scriptures say something that furthers their own agenda. Maybe if I focus on Jesus ransom, the kingdom solution(avoiding 1914) and the basic truths I can keep the wolves at bay.
Agape.Bklyn KevinParticipantMay 2, 2017 at 10:46 pmPost count: 18
Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. 3 Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say
Read more> https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/matthew/23/#v40023001
Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Man of Lawlessness.
The Man of Lawlessness Gets Revealed.Bklyn KevinParticipantMay 2, 2017 at 11:32 pmPost count: 18
Podcast #28 https://e-watchman.com/podcast-28-2/
This episode considers questions regarding 1914 and the potential of it becoming a major stumbling block for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Also, why did the demons declare Jesus to be the Son of God? Questions regarding the ethnicity of the Jews. And more!
Who Is Blind Except Jehovah’s Servant?
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