- Frank CongerParticipantJuly 14, 2017 at 9:26 pmPost count: 38
The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things,* and the reapers are angels. Matthew 13:39b. So, we know that it is the angels that harvest mankind, but where do they harvest from? In response he said: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world.+ As for the fine seed, these are the sons of the Kingdom, but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one,+ 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil. Matthew 13: 37-39a. So, where are the angels harvesting from? Since the seed that Jesus planted was planted in “the world” then it makes sense that the angels will be harvesting these wheat stalks from “the world”. The weeds are planted by the Devil, also in the world, which includes the Watchtower which we all know have both fine seed from Jesus and weeds from Satan. The final harvest is not solely from the Watchtower although many from the Watchtower will be harvested after they are disciplined by Jehovah, because he loves them.Robert KingKeymasterJuly 15, 2017 at 8:51 amPost count: 29
If you bother to read the whole illustration and Jesus’ explanation of it, he said the angels are dispatched to remove the wicked “out from his Kingdom.” In that context “his Kingdom” is not the ruling government in heaven, but Christ’s congregation. So, prior to the harvest the weed-like sons of the wicked one are shoulder-to-shoulder with the real sons. They are not scattered about in thousands of different sects. Jesus does not preside over a mess of sects.Frank CongerParticipantJuly 15, 2017 at 12:41 pmPost count: 38
I am not arguing that the Watchtower is not the house of the Sons of God and Bride of Christ, they are. But Jehovah is going to discipline and destroy the Watchtower with the wicked seed of the Devil bundled into it. When they are disciplined, the righteous will come out and the wicked will be bundled into the fallen Watchtower, as they will think there is no where else to go’ The same will be true of all the other religions of the earth. Once the faithful are shaken out of the Nations. the angels will bundle up the wicked into those religions just as they will do with the Watchtower. (“Get out of her my people” Rev. 18:4) says Jehovah. ((( And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people,+ if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.+ ))) Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the agents that gather the Great Crowd, they were the agents that gathered the Bride of Christ, just as the First Century Christian Congregation did. They (the Great Crowd) will come out of this system at the behest of the angels who will spearhead the final Kingdom message among the Nations. Daniel 12 tells us that the wicked will not understand this final message at all.
Then he said: “Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end.+ 10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined.+ And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and none of the wicked will understand; but those having insight will understand.+ Daniel 12: 9.10.
Many, who are “dirty” now “will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves”. How will they do this? Revelation 7:9,10 explains. Although they may now be seen as dirty or unrighteous in all the various organizations of the earth and in no organizations for that matter, Rev. 7 explains…
After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne,+ and to the Lamb.”+ They move from their faulty reasonings about the Christ and accept him for who he really is. Verse 14 tells us how…
So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation,+ and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.+ Rev. 7:14 Although their robes were not clean, they finally clean them in the blood of the lamb and become his people. Not his Bride and fellow Kings, but the citizens of the Kingdom. They will not only come from the Watchtower, which is now also a part of Babylon, but from all religions, as well as many who are not involved in any religions.
Jesus name means “Jehovah IS Salvation”. Just as he is LOVE, he is also SALVATION. He will show this at the conclusion of this system of things. “The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah”! He has gathered the final members of the Bride, now he will through the angels, gather the Great Crowd and bundle the weeds into bundles and burn them up.
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