The showy crown of the drunkards of Ephraim

//The showy crown of the drunkards of Ephraim

Monday, October 9

He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.—Gen. 3:15.

Abel likely gave much thought to that promise and realized that someone would be ‘struck in the heel’ so that mankind could be lifted to perfection such as that enjoyed by Adam and Eve before they sinned. Abel had faith based on God’s promise, and Jehovah therefore accepted his sacrifice. Noah survived the Deluge because of his faith. After the Flood, he was moved by faith to offer animal sacrifices. Like Abel, he undoubtedly had faith that mankind would eventually be released from bondage to sin and death. As he entered the dark post-Flood era during which Nimrod acted in opposition to Jehovah, Noah still had faith and hope. Very likely, he would have been heartened to think about mankind as being set free from oppressive rule, inherited sin, and death. We too can “see” such a wonderful time—and it is near indeed!—

Faith is the key that opens the door. No question about it. Abel had it. So did Noah. In his letter to the Hebrews Paul recounted many acts of faith on the part of those who lived before Jesus. The question is whether we have a similar kind of faith.

The Watchtower article upon which the text is based exhorts us to picture ourselves in the new world. Using our imagination to visualize ourselves in the future is a mental exercise that makes the new world more real. And our faith assures us that someday the new world will be a reality. (I posted an article some years ago encouraging others to imagine paradise.)

But longing for better times, yes, hoping even for the paradise that Jesus promised to the thief, does not necessarily mean we have faith. The problem for Jehovah’s Witnesses is that our faith is inextricably bound up with the Watchtower. How could it be otherwise? And due to some rather creative interpretation of prophecy, the Watchtower has effectively placed itself as the very Kingdom of God in the minds of the faithful.

As an example, take the prophecy in the 2nd chapter of Isaiah, which states: “In the final part of the days, the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will be raised up above the hills, and to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: ‘Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths.’ For law will go out of Zion, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.”

Jehovah’s Witnesses are convinced that the final part of the days began in 1914. That is when Christ is believed to have begun ruling. And the elevation of the mountain of the house of Jehovah and the nations streaming to it is believed to be fulfilled in the numerical growth of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The law and instruction that comes from Jehovah is expressed through the visible organization. In that way the Watchtower publishing corporation has become inseparable from the Kingdom of God —at least in the minds of faithful Jehovah’s Witnesses.  And therein lies the problem.

It is problematic now, in that, when JW’s, or even persons who are just studying, are confronted with the Watchtower’s errors or on a more personal level, perhaps experience unkindnesses on the part of brothers and sisters, or even elders, then they may be stumbled. It becomes irreconcilable to them how the Kingdom of God could be thus and so. So, they are stumbled in their faith.

But the real stumbling block —at least potentially, is the fact that the entire 1914 thing is a sham. Christ did not in any way begin ruling over the world a century ago. The last days, or final part of the days, or time of the end, or conclusion of the system of things —whatever you choose to call it —has not begun. When it does you’ll know it. You won’t have to do any calculations, counting the years from 607 or whatever. The conclusion will be marked by wars, famines and pestilence on a scale never before seen —certainly far surpassing the horrors of the First World War and Spanish Influenza.

Silkebord congress hall appears as eye of HorusOf course, there is inevitably a sense of betrayal —and rightly so. The Watchtower has betrayed our trust. Just think how the Danish brothers and sisters will react when it comes to their attention that their outdoor assembly hall is really dedicated to the one-eyed demon god, Horus. No doubt those who have attended conventions there —maybe even being baptized in the eye of Horus —will be horrified at the treachery perpetrated against them. But it is wise to keep things in perspective. It is not primarily we who have been betrayed. Jehovah and Christ have been betrayed foremost. After all, they have not apostatized against us. It is Jehovah whom they have intentionally offended.

Some meek and kindly Jehovah’s Witnesses may believe me to be the apostate —or at least judge me to be much too harsh in my condemnation of the Watchtower. But I do not seek agreement with anyone or the approval of any human. My purpose has always been to announce Jehovah’s judgments —and if possible, bolster your faith in the word of God.

But whether anyone listens to me or not does not matter to me. I am absolutely certain at some point I will be proven to have been right. And as Jehovah said of Ezekiel, I lay claim to these words: “As for them, whether they listen or refuse to listen—for they are a rebellious house —they will certainly know that a prophet was among them.”

The Watchtower knows me. They know my message. I have distributed dozens of books and brochures among them over the years and mailed many thousands of letters to the elders at large. Too bad for the Governing Body that they will never humble themselves before Christ —not willingly anyway. On the contrary, just this past weekend they congratulated themselves for having built a magnificent corporate headquarters to rival the likes of any successful worldly corporation. What a showy display it is! And as new light they apparently have revealed that it is now okay, again, to refer to the vindication of Jehovah’s name.

Someone also brought it to my attention that a speaker at the annual meeting speculated that Jehovah would likely preserve the new world headquarters building through the battle of Armageddon. 

How apt —Jehovah’s description of “the showy crown of the drunkards of Ephraim and the fading blossom of its glorious beauty, which is on the head of the fertile valley of those overcome with wine!”

While they have constructed a palatial residence for themselves, as if a showy crown for royal kings, the glory of the organization is indeed like a fading blossom. Evidently there is a full scale exodus underway with more than a half million fewer publishers now than a year ago. While the Governing Body have always boasted of the growth of the organization as proof of God’s blessing and fulfillment of Isaiah regarding the nations streaming in —what do the rapidly declining numbers indicate? Why is the Watchtower shuttering kingdom halls, selling them off and disbanding dwindling congregations? The bloom is off and there is nothing the drunkards can do about it, except stop publishing the yearbook. Eventually, they will have a sobering lesson to learn –Jehovah is not their corporate mascot.

Sadly, we can expect many to be stumbled going forward. But it doesn’t have to be that way. We can go forward in the truth —we must go forward in faith, even if all others fall away. Or are we mere followers of men after all?

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2017-10-09T12:55:13+00:00 October 9th, 2017|Commentary|89 Comments
  • trudy

    Well said ,I have heard from my JW friend said about the logo .He feels the lack of love in the halls has gone to and been bullied by a elder most of his early days .He had no father and so that was sad .The true teaching of Jehovah they surly are not listening to but doctrines of man made rules which have no love at all .it was like building a grand tower which Jehovah never asked for .What a waste of money and like again they live as kings while the rest live in poverty in built up places with no education washing windows at a old age almost unable to clime the high ladders in all weathers ..I would find this most un pleasing in the new earth this building ..I rather see a old wooden huts full of love .They have a post in the org on line not to build such places .are they talking about themselves

    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102001406

    • Isaac of Coimbatore

      You mean Pharisees?

      • trudy

        Did you read this j w org link about grand buildings how strange is that …knocking other religions cathedrals which I think means seats …mmm that’s what they have done .. Am I right or wrong on this point.

        • sally

          Hi Trudy, obviously the org does not own a building as “grand” as a cathedral. What organisation or business does?!! These were constructed hundreds of years ago, in some cases a 1000 years ago, no buildings are built in the same way anymore. But the new headquarters is the modern equivalent in my opinion. It has marble from China apparently and an extremely expensive hi tech eco heating system, so they went beyond the modest neccessities and that is enough to make it wrong.

          • trudy

            Hi Sally ,I believe they made stainless steel drains with watchtower logo on it ..Does this need to be .. like this ..this is expensive .. I believe it be better printing scriptures as that is life saving rather then a stupid drain or any of this building ..Money has been wrongly spent and the sheep have trusted them to carry out the truth of preaching ..Do not save your riches on the earth save them in heaven ..I have a bitter tastes in my mouth . I wonder how Jehovah feels .Jesus was so basic and simple ..He never had any grand palace and met in peoples homes ..so far off the true way .it saddens me ..I was better giving out bibles then any mags

            • Richard Long

              One has to wonder why persons destined to become immortal spirits should need to acclimate themselves to physical comfort now ( or ever ). Perhaps they believe they are having all they will ever get now. This does not remotely look like nailing the flesh to the stake to me. It looks like having one’s reward in full.

            • trudy

              For my preaching work I did ,I lost everything in just one day that is the truth ..I have been on one trail ever since even in the hall when I had stick saying give out mags not bibles I was really confused .Yet it was the bible that woke me up by myself with no one showing me just reading it .I was amazed .I asked questions at the hall and was not satisfied with answers which were men’s words not scriptures and when I had scriptures saying who is this talking about they did not know and I was told not to run head . It was not deep enough for me .Robert really put me on the path again and I feel how could I go back in the halls with controlled thinking ..Jesus way was to help ones by letting then decide no forced ,The woman on the well ,,perfect example . I wanted to be baptised and they made me do book after book but I believed I said why cant I get baptised they made it so hard that in the end I gave up after a elder said something strange wile his wife was in the shops .Anyway there is something wrong in org .I and watching so many jw leaving the watchtower and I hope not Jehovah ,I hope they make it on to here ..all the injured ones looking for love of truth.

            • Max

              Indeed!

          • Richard Long

            Stanley theater might come close. That was a “prestige purchase” if there ever was one. IMO

            • trudy

              I have to say another point why buy this as they are cutting back on loads of mags .I hear ,,so what is it for ???…are they trying to escape Gods wrath ..am I missing something .My poor jw friend he is struggling with money as he is a window cleaner with no education lives on his own and his mother has passed away awhile ago .I am helping him I am not a watchtower follower anymore .There is a big problem .I seam to be clearing up watchtower mess well I was a cleaner to because my mother would not let me study plants of the nature and I landed up in a meat factory ..
              I am showing the bible and it is different to what he and me have been told in mags He really is angry and went in to the hall of elders and said why are you teaching blood fractions is OK and 1975 was JW sheep fault .He was so cross ,,but I think this is happening a lot now ..My mate mark also asked questions and he was DF he is in Hull UK and it got into the news papers and there is a purge against any jw who ask questions and are DF I think there are 25 so far .A old sweet lady asked questions she also DF look it up hull shunning and witness no more you tube .I tell you there is a real big mess ..now and its spinning out of control .

            • Craig Knight

              That’s how WTC keeps all the Brothers in agreement. If you disagree you get the boot! Titus 2:1 But as for you, speak the things that are consistent with sound doctrine. 2Older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, and sound in faith, love, and perseverance.

              Titus speaks to how Elders should act. 607 and the false parousia are not sound doctrines but thousands have been kicked out of the kingdom or so they think. It’s wickedness to treat the sheep who ask good questions in such a cruel manner. The truth is most elders don’t know how to answer hard questions. Believe me I’ve tried.

            • Richard Long

              Trudy, the Stanley was purchased on the cheap several decades ago when it was in a state of disrepair and subsequently restored to glory. At the time, the WT was flush with cash and an assembly hall was “needed”.

              Said purchase came with strings attached which give one pause to re-evaluate the WT’s claims to divine direction and blessing.

              The most glaring is the principle highlighted by Robert in Kingdom Bulletin #13 regarding properties dedicated to Jehovah.

              Restoration had to conform to regulations regarding historical preservation which precluded removal of the Masonic sigil adorned facade. (or any detail inside) This should have stopped the purchase in its tracks. If the brothers claim ignorance of the facade’s Freemasonry significance, they admit absence of Jehovah’s direction. If the brothers claim understanding of the facade’s Freemasonry significance, they admit willful disregard for God’s word regarding properties dedicated to Jehovah.

              As with the Denmark congress property, the only acceptable disposition of a property dedicated to Jehovah is to have it wiped from the face of the earth once it is decommissioned. It must not , under any circumstances, be used for another purpose outside the scope of its dedicated purpose. And the “necessity” for decommission of a property dedicated to Jehovah should give one pause to re-consider the validity of the claim its acquisition or erection was according to divine direction and blessing .

              While a great deal more could be said about that, Trudy, the heart of your comment speaks to whether one’s faith in the WT/GB’s claim to divine direction and blessing is warranted. Testing this premise is not testing Jehovah, IMO, but to continuously test whether ones faith is well or misplaced is something God has repeatedly invited us to do. Is it your faith in Jehovah or your faith in the WT/GB that is causing you such distress? For many of us, the realization that we had been idolatrous in equating the two has been soul-shattering. For me, choosing to at any cost no longer be an idolater looks one way is the beginning of the way to approach through Jesus to our Father.

              And I think we are getting exactly what we should expect from the WT/GB when we see them through the eyes of faith in Christ and our Father.

              Blessings of peace and comfort through your trials, Trudy.

              RL

            • trudy

              I live in Esher in Surrey …I saw a old church brought by JWS ..I use to drive past it ..it is in Wimbledon …I felt upset by it .It was not my local hall .But felt like a Babylon hall .Yes ..I stand with Jehovah and I feel I can not sit in a hall knowing what I know ..I would just keep having meetings with them and saying this is what its says in bible I am out spoken person secret elders double standard book and I that I have seen it and blood fractions the John 20:25 nails not nail in his hands .The false dates over lap .and this is so far and the 2 thess 2 not one jw has told me who this is ..they said it is not the watchtower .Wow .So I am with the truth and that’s it .I will not back down .But a lot are waking up I can tell you ..the mood is switching .I heard they are gong to protest outside Warwick but some of there point I could not agree .Shunning is something I don’t like I find in rude .Just be plight and don’t mix with ones who are not of good standing ..that is also the GB ..I wont stand with them and there teaching of lies to millions jws and the world …Oh they built a new hall in 2002 I belive and it had mosque floor of freemason taste ..It was new on planning I saw it ..its every where .

  • Paul

    I don’t get the scriptural backing for the physical protection of the headquarters. It’s was people Jehovah saved not buildings. Noah and his family were important not the physical ark.

    • They need to justify their extravagance by imparting some special purpose to the facility in the new world.

      • Paul

        Much as some religions place emphasis on holy relics or temples and the physical things it seems now the GB is leading us down the same path.

        • into the light

          I think that has been the case for a while. All serious JWs have to make a pilgrimage to Bethel at least once in their life. They even have tours organized for that purpose. I mean it’s nice to go and see how the brotherhood works there, how things get accomplished and so on. But the way they position it is like a requirement.

          • Burt Reynolds

            I didn’t realise there was an expectation. I will write to them and ask for funding to visit.

            • Craig Knight

              You know they won’t pay up Burt so I’d recommend a vacation at Disneyland. At least it’s not a waste of time.

            • into the light

              I beg to differ. What exactly would he be gaining in Disneyland? Not everyone is evil in Bethel. You probably wouldn’t even be able to know the truth without their help… At least in Bethel he would be able to see firsthand how brotherly love affects people.

              We need to be fair.

            • Craig Knight

              I see you are still bowing down to your idol!

            • into the light

              I guess you see what you want to see. I bow down only to Jehovah and Christ. If you want to learn from Christ, maybe imitating him would be a nice start. Remember how he didn’t spit on and say negative things about temple when apostles were admiringly looking at it. Despite the condition it was in spiritually…
              All I wanted to say is we need to be fair. Burt would probably be more affected by love he encounters in Bethel, because as I said not everyone there is evil. Philippians 4:8

            • The Raven

              Well said, man. I think it’s becoming difficult to find an equilibrium here. But I think we obsessionally need to be reminded how Jehovah and Christ view matters. Nice point about the template. Many of us here have known some great witnesses throughout our lives and some pretty darn bad ones but hey…that can be said for anyone. lol!

            • The Raven

              Is he? I didn’t get that impression. Maybe it’s because we know there is some wheat among them as there are throughout the halls. It’s a strange work no doubt but we were discussing the retraint yesterday and wondered who or what it might be. It’s not yet completely gone loco, but once that retraint is gone, it will. Of course, this all ties in with the mol and the deluding influence jehovah has permitted. It’s a precarious balance.

            • Richard Long

              Fairness I can do. And I can unreservedly say that for many years I romanticized over the “simplicity” of life at bethel in its insular cocoon of “spiritual paradise”. And I agree even now it would be worthwhile to visit and see for myself the goings on firsthand, even though I no longer attribute them any relevance.

              The challenge for me is that, so far, the only recent accounts I can obtain to “see[ing] firsthand how brotherly love affects people.” come from WT publication cack, while reports of an opposite “spirit in the air” at bethel abound.

              Around here, Max is the guy we ask, as he served, and I trust both his love for the Father, and the brotherhood, and his candor. If you can present a different picture, I’ll listen.

            • into the light

              I am by no means defending the practices and spirit that is prevalent among the Bethel residents. All I did was point out what would be more beneficial. I really was well meaning.

            • Richard Long

              I’m with ya! You got my upvote. lol

              And I cringed at the reply you got that fell way short of the site guidelines. All I can say is get used to it and wear Kevlar.

            • into the light

              I try not to put out the fire with gasoline 🔥

            • Anderiega

              😆😆

          • Richard Long

            Not so nice to see what Max has revealed to us! But you’re right. Formerly, my “dream vacation” always included Bethel and Patterson.

      • Max

        Thank you for the article Brother King you have certainly bolstered the faith of many… including mine. May Jehovah bless you always.

        • Simpletruth

          So true! Could that be said of an apostate? Not at all!!! I remember when I first found Brother King on YouTube…I was lost and searching. I had run across some apostate videos but they never sat well with me and I just kept praying to Jehovah asking him what is THE TRUTH.
          I needed to find something that made sense of it all. Brother King definitely has done that and then some. I was so excited about what I was beginning to understand as a result of this Brother (through Jehovah’s Holy Spirit) that I tried to share it with family and friends who were still active witnesses.

          But of course, as you can imagine, they ALL dismissed him as an apostate without even hearing the information. My father, who is an elder, is the only one who really gave me the time of day (mostly i’m sure to try to dispute what I had seen/heard) but when I got to some things that stumped him; that he couldn’t answer, he started to question Brother King’s motives. I then asked my dad a question…”Dad, how is it that as a result of listening to this brother…I have more faith in Jehovah and His word AND more of an understanding of the truth than ever before? Is that something an apostate would elicit within me?”

          Of course…my dad had no viable answer which I firmly expected. Very interesting indeed!

          • The Raven

            Hi truth. That’s much the same thought many folks who managed to find this site have and I’m happy to hear this. Who knows maybe your dad might get curious and take a peek eventually. Pray for him. I think as things get worse people tend to notice things and it may just be the nudge needed to help them overcome their fear to look outside their wt parameters.

            • Simpletruth

              Very true. At least that is my hope…I will keep praying. Thank you:-)

    • Isaac of Coimbatore

      I doubt that WTS has bunker underground, may be for board of directors during a nuclear attack. Who knows LoL!!!

      • Simpletruth

        That’s an interesting thought…so many other wealthy successful businessmen are building underground bunkers. Why not the GB?!

  • Isaac of Coimbatore

    Brother Robert is true. Personally I say his website bolstered my faith in Jehovah and Jesus otherwise I would have been an atheist.
    Brother Robert said we can go forward in truth. We must go forward in faith even if all others fall away. What Robert said is scripturally correct. Hab:3:17 is the scripture to support that. Good night its 9:44P M time for zzzzzz

  • noname

    Just for a more accurate quote during Bro. Losch dedication talk it was put that ” It stands to reason Jehovah will protect the physical headquarters “, Another interesting quote was from Bro. Herd who basically said the master was delaying, speaking on Jehovah’s sovereignty issue that ” He was delayed “

    • Isaac of Coimbatore

      Ask Losch to read Rev:7:2 and ask for explanation. If somehow it is not destroyed by UN that is because WTS has NGO association with OSCE which is a right wing for UN not by Jehovah’s help. The one who proclaims that holy place will be destroyed is a Jesus disciple, because Jesus himself said that holy place will be trampled and not even one stone will be upon another.

    • into the light

      It stands to reason Jehovah will protect the physical headquarters

      It also stands to reason that when you dedicate something to Jehovah you shouldn’t sell it, like they did the last one…

      They are so proud of their castle that they now tell Jehovah how he should treat it. How arrogant! As if Jehovah cares about buildings.

      • Burt Reynolds

        My thoughts have always been that Jehovah will wipe the earth clean, but then the scriptures also say that the birds will be invited to clean up the corpses. I think that if Jehovah can make an atomic furnace to power the earth, a few atoms of concrete should not present too much of a problem. Come to think of it, the way some builders construct buildings, they will already be dust!

  • Max

    The idea of the headquarters surviving Armageddon has been promoted for decades now. The organization has always portrayed itself as the surviving instrument for which means Jehovah will reorganize the faithful after Armageddon. They have even said that some of the anointed might survive Armageddon and that they will be the ones to spearhead the reconstruction efforts. I remember when the farm was dedicated the GB speaker said that the farm was a building made for the NW that it was going to set up the ground for the new building that were going to serve as headquarters in the NW. Basically they were saying then that the Bethel arrangement system was going to survive and it was going to continue in the NW. I personally will not want to see anything from this evil system to survive and certainly not building tarnished by apostasy. Under the Kings direction and his brothers we will build everything new. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more…Look the tent of God is with mankind and he will reside with them and he will wipe out every tear from their ayes… And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I’m making all things new” (Revelation 21:1-5)

    • Richard Long

      Max, I distinctly remember a mental image conjured from some stage speaker of an invisible dome protecting bethel and the branches and halls during the GT/Armageddon. I will now be laughing at myself for the next two weeks.

      • Max

        Lol

      • into the light

        I think that’s the same dome that protected the 2 Jewish temples. 😅

        • The Raven

          I think you may be right. 😁

    • The Raven

      Did they actually say that some of the anointed would live? That’s astonishing. They fully intend to exercise the same if not even more control over folks than they have now? I think they’re in for a rude awakening. This is interesting. I wonder how many witnesses really want to be under their thumbs for eternity? I’d say many too are waiting to be set free from all this. The ENTIRE system including theirs.

      • Max

        Yes, it was the believe that some would be still alive after Armageddon. I have not heard this from the platform as a core belief lately but elders still mentioned it in the WT study sometimes. I used to believe it too. Before I found this site I was expecting to have the WT intact in the NW. Apostasy within the organization was unimaginable. Imagine that not even disfellowshipped witnesses can easily believe that the WT could become apostate. So yeah we were all hoping to have the mother organization in the NW to tell us what to do.

        • The Raven

          Max, everytime we ask a question you answer fully . I am always surprised at what you tell us about the inner and outer workings among the wt. I look forward to the day when we will all be shepherded by Christ and His brothers. Only then will we get our abundance of peace. These “princes ” are wannabes who have no clue. I see how they fulfill scripture even now.

          • Max

            Well I believe we should not sugar coat the wrongdoings of the organization anymore. Friends who read this site should find sincere expressions of faith and truth from their brothers and sisters posting here. The Bible doesn’t sugarcoat the bad actions of Jehovah’s people. Moises, David, Paul, Peter are all good examples of men loved by Jehovah but with all their weaknesses exposed for us to learn from them. So why have you placed the GB on a pedestal where they could not do any wrongdoing? Imagine the arrogance of them to believe they have already been declared saints by the King! Jehovah justice is never to hide the error but to expose it so we could repent and live. The GB wants to hide everything to keep making the friends believe they are just and approved by the King. So no more sugarcoating

            • The Raven

              I agree. My biggest problem with this is the fact that they have placed themselves in a position they have no right to. As you said, most witnesses would like to see the WTO survive through Armageddon because they see it as something Jehovah has approved of. They do not see what it has really become. They are fond of saying the devil stumbles folks. Since the MOL has a hefty role in this you could say they are half right and they have been responsible for the rest but don’t see it. But since I know there is wheat among them, I can’t go too far with this other than to point out the obvious. And even that’s pretty darn bad.

              BTW, I hope you were speaking of Jws and not me when you said” so why have you placed the GB on a pedestal”? Because I haven’t. 🙂

            • Max

              Not you, it was a typo. I edited it already. 😊

            • The Raven

              Oh man! Thank you! Lol! You had me wondering if I needed stronger reading glasses, more caffeine or both! 😁

            • Max

              LOL

            • Burt Reynolds

              That’s a good point that newcomers should read commitment and truth. In fact, the more clearly they can see it, the better. No more being like the waves of the sea.

      • Burt Reynolds

        You’re right. A long time ago I felt that I would not want to live in a system where they were kings. If you take this master and servant regime to its inevitable conclusion, it always ends in tyranny.

        • The Raven

          Yes, it does. I’m glad that won’t be the case though.

      • thinking that some anointed would die with age in paradise isnt unheard of

        • into the light

          I recently heard a notion that most of the spirit anointed have died martyr’s death or have been persecuted in some way. I take this with grain of salt, though, as I don’t know much about this. I believe that they will need to die such death during GT. But I think it does merit some research time. If that indeed is the case, I can’t see how they would be able to die such death in paradise.

    • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

      Yes ive listen to the rhetoric for many years. But theyre are sadly mistaken to think such will be..

  • Craig Knight

    It’s a beautiful complex made with their hedge funds and stock profits from those filthy companies that make bombs and missiles. According to Lett the poster child for Gerber baby food – They have more money going out than coming in!!! Of course they do! All the money is spent on child molestation settlements and constructing these gaudy buildings. Shame on them to think God supports such hypocrisy!!!

  • trudy

    .I heard a recording of Jackson at Warwick saying corporate members and there guests can have a meal in dinning room and bethelites have a packed lunch ..Can I say who are the corporate members?? why are bethelites and corporate members are treated different …called different .Its getting more and more alarming .Please can anyone tell who this corporate members are ?> They are not having year book and mags are going to be to 3 times a year instead of 6 and teach book and Gods love more simple from 2018.

  • trudy

    Frankly I don’t want to see anything of this world in the next how disappointing that would be for me or anyone .I bet this building has locks so that means these door with these locks with keys will be in the next .I can not stand anything of this world and I shall not take anything in my pocket to that new place , if I should make it .It has all bad memories plus Warwick has nickel poison ..in it grounds I believe .That’s
    interesting , they had a film about Lott’s wife who looked back , well this looks like most of the JW will be looking back to save this building to take it in to the next new world ..MMM well I think I will see a load of salted , statues in the next new earth all surrounding this Warwick building .LOL and scripture will be written about this again , history repeats and some will never learn …

  • “Jehovah is not their corporate mascot” good one. much like Jehovah’s witnesses isn’t a brand name

  • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

    What utter conceit! That some speaker would say that Jehovah will allow or probably allow the Watchtower Corporation to stand through Armageddon! What absolute hypocrisy! What part of the Bible do they need to be forced into their face that says this system and everything in it is passing away! Seriously that means the nuclear power plants that send electricity will continue to be around through the Armageddon? what a load of crap. This world of Satans is to be raised to the ground ,every inch of mans and the demons contraptions as well as every thought of how to run a system that we think we know will be undone!

    • Max

      I hear you! Everything of this evil system needs to go. Nothing of satan’s unjust evil “civilization” needs to follow us into the NW nothing absolutely nothing!!

      • Isaac of Coimbatore

        I like ur comment

    • Beverly kenyon

      Brilliant post Revv!

      ‘For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so’. Romans 8:5-7.

      The Heavenly Father says, ‘Look I am making EVERYTHING NEW’. Revelation 21:5. A NEW Heaven and a NEW earth which chapters 21-22 of Revelation gives us a detailed look at.

      The WTC think in terms of the flesh, fleshly thoughts, hoping their ‘monument’ will still stand through the desolation to come when the Refiner comes back to cleanse every vestige of Satan’s world. The whole con game they have been spinning and mugging people off with is slowly being dismantled.

      They don’t subject themselves to the Law of God because as Romans 8:7 says, ‘it is not even able to do so’ or ‘it never will’ and ‘it cannot’. NASB, NLT, ESV. It’s not in their hearts to subject themselves to the Law of God as they’re Lawless like the one who controls them….the MOL.

  • The Raven

    Well, for what it’s worth, I listen to you . I know I’m not alone in saying that you have helped immensely in shoring up my faith in Jehovah. I know you don’t seek approval or anything like that but just for the record, I am in agreement and when I’m unclear on deeper matters Kevin has been a great help in finding the answers among your work and scripture. Thank you for all you do and Kevin too.

  • Simpletruth

    This was an awesome article @ewatchman:disqus … I just spoke to one of my active witness friends today about the topics discussed at the special talk this past weekend. Besides the fact that they are taking away the year book I was very intrigued by the news that they will ONLY have 3 watchtower/awake articles per year! She looks at it as they are cutting back on the preaching work because the end is getting near. I look at it as–yes the end is getting near but they have to cut back because they no longer have Jehovah’s backing. It’s like we’re living in a parallel universe…:-)

    • Burt Reynolds

      Parallel universe…..you got that right. Sometimes I feel that I’m on a totally different planet altogether!

      • Simpletruth

        Yes! A different planet! That’s even more accurate unfortunately…:-(

      • Anderiega

        I like planet Burt.

  • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

    Changes within…I just cant seem to tie the Corporation in to being a Theocracy? How can you claim divine direction? Doe’s the Almighty need a business? If so why and why the distancing from being in the bossom of God, to seating yourself at a corporate round table? Why is there no such thing as Elders anymore or ministerial servants? Do the heads of the CORPORATION think distancing yourself from any religious affiliation with protect them from the coming calamity? Seems to me they are saying the same words as the apostiol Peter in a since the moment will arive for the Beast to turn on the Harlot Kristen dumb false religion and somehow girls a thought in the Watchtower will be unaffected? Isn’t that the same as denying the Christ? It is a sad day when the core beliefs , the structure of a congregation is no longer really a congregation it’s a corporate meeting. There’s no longer a body of Elders the body of coordinators! Seems to me there is no spiritually Divine interaction me more. It’s all the financial bottom line…

  • steve

    If they are cutting back to three watchtower publications a year i wonder what the Sunday meeting will consist of.

    • Burt Reynolds

      That’s a point! The hours silence might give them time to think! Every cloud….etc etc.

    • steve

      They might start studying the stock markets next.

    • into the light

      I think they are cutting down on the public edition, not the study one.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Pleased to have sent Horus on for you Robert!

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