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Hello Richard.

You wrote:

” I have to wonder about those misleading or perpetuating the lies.”

That would be wicked leadership, false prophets and various antichrists that Jehovah targets in His denunciations and the very ones Brother King rails & prophesies against.

You wrote:

“but should we imagine they are amongst the Eastern religions or Islam? I want to be as generous as possible, too, but for one to appropriately fear God, must one not first know God?”

There may be some good-hearted ones from among the Eastern religions and Islam who may eventually turn to the Truth when presented with it, but ultimately:

“there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name [Jesus] under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” Acts 4:12

You wrote:

“Robert has exhaustively demonstrated the adherents of the Babylonish religions cannot possibly know God, while their leaderships are intentional and ardent avowed enemies of Jehovah. Do we really imagine the true annointed among these leaderships?”

We can’t examine the doctrine of every denomination & sect of Christianity here & now but I can assure you that there are many groups teaching the basic truths and some that even get quite “meaty”. I don’t want to have to provide an example but if I must I will. For instance, I recently came across a youtube video of a sermon from a church named “Church of YHWH”. And the sermon was brilliant!!!! So there are groups out there; maybe not many, maybe not big, but they exist.

The Pharisees, as a whole, were ardent enemies of Christ, yet Nicodemus was a believer. Acts 15:5 speaks of “some of those of the sect of the Pharisees who had become believers”, so there are believers even in the midst of Christ’s enemies.

It bears quoting:

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.” Matt 7:13

“Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” Matt 16:24,25

Discipleship is very personal and:

“we must all appear before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.” 2 Cor 5:10

You wrote:

“What gifts should we be expecting to seen demonstrated there, what fruitage of the Spirit?”

All of it! Note that in Gal 5:22 it is not “fruits”, it is “fruit” or “fruitage” (one type of fruit: the fruit of the Spirit!). The fruit of the Spirit includes ALL of the things Paul wrote in Gal 5:22,23, not just certain qualities without others. (Naturally, we’re all learning to follow in Jesus’ footsteps and we’re going to make mistakes along the way; that’s why the Blood of Jesus is so precious: it provides forgiveness as we’re trying to obey as best we can. Hallellujah! And that’s also why Jesus said we shouldn’t judge one another (Matt 7:1-5).) Love is the overarching quality. It is the hallmark of a true Christian and only a true Christian with the Holy Spirit can truly love since true love is a result of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit cannot be received by the world (John 14:17). (Does that make sense!? lol)

You wrote:

“It just doesn’t seem reasonable that such ones would tolerate the filthy idolatry and outright heresy day after day, year after year, decade after decade, does it?”

Agreed. I can’t speak for others. I think all anointed Christians who wholeheartedly love Jehovah are indeed “sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city.” (Ez 9:4) In my personal experience, once the 1914 thing came to my understanding (that would have been 12 years ago or so now; I came across e-watchman site shortly after questioning 1914 and have never left) I felt like I couldn’t remain with the Witnesses. To be fair, I would like to think that I have grown in spiritual maturity since then (all praise to Jehovah) and maybe I wouldn’t have left knowing what I know now. The reason being is that we all “see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face-to-face.” (1 Cor 13:12.) Thankfully for me, I was led to a tiny group of about 15 anointed Christians where Jehovah has nurtured me ever since. If/when I’m led to leave that group I will, because I was baptised “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” and the covenant I am in is with my Heavenly Father Jehovah and not with men.

In this, I agree with Brother King that maybe a JW should remain where he/she is until the angel gives the cry “Get out of her my people” (Rev 18:4).

After all, did not Jesus say:

“The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses. Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.” Matt 23:2,3

In love,

Nigel.

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