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Sunday, August 27

The earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea.Isa. 11:9.

In many lands, Bibles are expensive and not readily available, so just receiving a Bible is a great blessing. A report from Rwanda stated: “For a long time, many people with whom the brothers were studying had not progressed because they had no Bibles. They could not afford to purchase the local church edition. And they often could not clearly understand the meaning of certain verses, which hindered their progress.” Things changed when the New World Translation in their language became available. A Rwandan family with four teenagers said: “We really thank Jehovah and the faithful and discreet slave for giving us this Bible. We are very poor and had no money to purchase Bibles for every member of the family. But now each of us has his own Bible. To show our gratitude to Jehovah, we read the Bible as a family every day.”


The Watchtower’s Daily Text is what is called a non sequitur. The comment has no relation to the scripture text.

The Watchtower is evidently implying that the prophecy of Isaiah will be fulfilled when the world is saturated with Bibles. Or, more probably, the presumption is being made that the worldwide education work sponsored by the Watchtower will fill the earth with the knowledge of Jehovah. In any case, such cannot possibly fulfill the prophecy.

The sacred Scriptures do indeed impart knowledge about Jehovah —his will, purpose and character, as well as the things to come, but only to an extent. The fact is, the truth contained in the Bible is intended to guide Christians only up to the day of Christ, at which point an entirely new phase of God’s purpose will unfold.

To demonstrate the blindness that presently grips Jehovah’s Witnesses on this matter, consider an oft-read passage from James, which says: “Be patient then, brothers, until the presence of the Lord. Look! The farmer keeps waiting for the precious fruit of the earth, exercising patience over it until the early rain and the late rain arrive. You too exercise patience; make your hearts firm, because the presence of the Lord has drawn close.”

No doubt long-time JW’s have read this passage many, many times in the course of their study. But apparently no one grasps the fact that the presence of the Lord is the end of Christianity —the goal of our faith. It is not a continuation of the same process that leads up to it. That is why it is also called the conclusion of the system or end of the age. It is the end of the Christian era.

Clearly, the parousia of Jesus Christ is what Christians are patiently awaiting. But if Christians are exhorted to wait patiently for the presence of Christ and the parousia began in 1914, as Jehovah’s Witnesses are required to believe, why then must the wait continue? Why have generations come and gone while the farmer still has no “precious fruit of the earth”?

To be sure, virtually all the scriptures that speak of the presence, revelation or manifestation of Christ place it as the end of our journey. (These matters have been published in detail in the chapter called Parousia.)

Now, as regards the day’s scripture, the context clearly indicates that the earth will become filled with the knowledge of Jehovah when Christ comes. And the first order of business for Jesus will be to put to death the wicked —not as on the battlefield of Armageddon, mind you. But the wicked slaves within Christ’s Kingdom. They must be thrown into the outer darkness, where they will weep and gnash their teeth in the certain knowledge of their early execution. It is in the aftermath of that purge that the scripture will be fulfilled. That is evident from the context, which says: “He will judge the lowly with fairness, and with uprightness he will give reproof in behalf of the meek ones of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth and put the wicked to death with the breath of his lips.”

That the passage above relates to the execution of unfaithful Christians is borne out at Revelation 2:16, where Jesus warns persons in the Pergamum congregation: “So repent. If you do not, I am coming to you quickly, and I will war against them with the long sword of my mouth.”

Surely, no one can survive a sword fight with the Lord Jesus.

It is in the aftermath of the judgment of the symbolic seven congregations making up the house of God that the condition described in Isaiah will come about, illustrated by the lion eating straw like the bull and a child playing with a poisonous cobra with no one doing any harm in Jehovah’s holy mountain.

The error of the Watchtower is not simply a matter of ignorance. True, no doubt the majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses simply believe what the Watchtower teaches and feel it is their duty not question Jehovah’s appointed slave.

But there is a deliberate deception at the core —perpetrated by a small clique of wicked men who are under Satan’s influence, even as the Scripture says: “For among my people there are wicked men. They keep peering, as when birdcatchers crouch down. They set a deadly trap. It is men whom they catch. Like a cage full of birds, so their houses are full of deception.” —Jeremiah 5:26-27

The operation of error, indeed, the deception they are perpetuating, is intended to elevate the Watchtower into the place of Christ, making any future presence of Christ unnecessary. That is why, for example, the Watchtower teaches the Jehovah’s Witnesses are already living in the so-called spiritual paradise described in Isaiah. There is no need for Christ to come and eliminate wicked, beast-like predators and tame the lionlike men. He is already present in kingly power and there are no beastly men in the Watchtower’s organizational paradise that need to be eliminated.

As regards the Watchtower’s assumption that the Bible supplies all that is needed, the next verse in the context of the 11th chapter of Isaiah states: “In that day the root of Jesse will stand up as a signal for the peoples. To him the nations will turn for guidance, and his resting-place will become glorious.”

The root of Jesse standing up has to do with the return of Christ. His glorious resting place is in reference to his throne. That much should be obvious. But if the Bible is all the guidance that is needed, why would people of the nations turn to the Jesus for guidance? Why not just read the Bible if it has all the answers?

As stated already, the Bible and the entire Christian arrangement is only intended to lead Christians to the point when Christ arrives and his special presence begins. The Watchtower has most assuredly made certain that it will become irrelevant when the time of the end commences. And tragically, we may expect that those who cling to the Watchtower after that point will become irrelevant too. All the more reason to patiently wait, because the presence of the Lord has assuredly drawn close.

2017-11-08T05:54:51+00:00 August 27th, 2017|Commentary, Featured|80 Comments
  • Nigel

    Brilliant. Thank you Jah, in Jesus’ name.

  • Simpletruth

    Great Article!!!

  • Huldah

    “For among my people there are wicked men.

    They keep peering, as when birdcatchers crouch down. They set a deadly trap. It is men whom they catch. Like a cage full of birds, so their houses are full of deception.” —Jeremiah 5:26-27

    Loved this reference.
    Anthony Morris gave the talk “Beware the Traps of the Birdcatcher” at a DC.

    I was just thinking of this scripture yesterday.
    Rather than apostates outside the organization, the scripture clearly says “among my people” How convenient to ignore that.

    The most dangerous apostates are still inside the organization for sure.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Yes you are so right about the deception being within, and that fact being ignored. I wonder how much of the obvious is also hidden from us who, like they do, feel we are scripturally liberated. I often feel that the coming tribulation is (still) hidden from us for much the same reason. We have all this evidence staring us in the face, yet see nothing out of our ordinary lives. It takes great faith to believe that it’s ‘life Jim, but not as we know it’ and that our existence can be, will be, very different soon. We have all become desensitised to the atrocities, threats, and tragedy and instead, taken on a tolerant inertia just as the bible says we would. But it applies I feel to all of us. We try to keep on the watch, but what is there in our short lifespan, that is different from all the horrors we have grown up with and are so complacent with? We know nothing different. How can we with justification, point the finger at the blind witnesses who sit there (not) thinking about an ‘inconvenient truth!’ of scripture! It reminds me of school holidays from my hated boarding school where each day was a day nearer the ‘execution’ of return, but it was ‘not today’ so I would go fishing or canoeing, or just laze, and here I am again, saying ‘not today! How could it happen today?’

  • bobby6343

    Another article that fill the heart, mind and faith. I am grateful to Jehovah that I found this site over 4 years ago, it has change my spiritual life!

    Thank you Bro. King

    • Easach L S of Coimbatore

      Oh that’s right!

  • Easach of Coimbatore

    The beastly men are nothing but child abusers. So if child abusers are there inside Christian congregation how it can be a spiritual Paradise? WTS has no brains. Anyway thanks brother Robert

    • Cathii D’Anthonii

      Truly Brother Issac, why is it that the WTS says that the first of Isaiah apples to Christianson and only Isaiah 43: applies to Jehovahs witnesses? It appears that “judgements” are not on their ajenda.

      • Easach L S of Coimbatore

        I think so WTS is considering itself as mere spectator no involvement in the prophecy and the judgement. Or may be Judgement already happened in 1914 and 1919. HEE HEE

      • The Raven

        Well, unfortunately, they’re in for a bad surprise. Hopefully a good number will understand what’s actually happening and what they must do when the time comes.

        Isaiah 43:25-28:
        I—I am the One that is wiping out your transgressions for my own sake, and your sins I shall not remember. Remind me; let us put ourselves on judgment together; tell your own account of it in order that you may be in the right. Your own father, the first one, has sinned, and your own spokesmen have transgressed against me. So I shall profane the princes of the holy place, and I will give Jacob over as a man devoted to destruction and Israel over to words of abuse.

        Lamentations 2:2
        Jehovah has swallowed up, He has shown no compassion upon any abiding places of Jacob. In his fury he has torn down the fortified places of the daughter of Judah. He has brought into contact with the earth, he has profaned the kingdom and her princes.

    • Richard Long

      Worse, it no longer has any heart.

      • Easach L S of Coimbatore

        Worse is that the WTS claims that Jesus cleaned the congregation already between 1918-1919. Latest public talk in our congregation.

        • Brian

          The watchtower can claim what it likes, it doesn’t matter as they are just vying with all of the others that claim to be in union with Jesus to appoint themselves as “the true religion”, they can get in line with the rest of them!

          • Easach L S of Coimbatore

            I just updated for the comments see once again

          • line for what?

            • Brian

              In a line, same as “take a number”!

            • number for what?

            • Brian

              Not literally “take a number”, maybe you are not aware of this expression, say you are at the DMV or whatever you call it there and you need to be “served”, you take a number and you get in line and wait until you are called!

            • so they’re in line for the DMV huh. i can act just as stupid here.

            • Brian

              Intellectually challenged??

  • Observing Quietly

    Really enjoyed this part: “The Watchtower has most
    assuredly made certain that it will become irrelevant when the time of
    the end commences. And tragically, we may expect that those who cling to
    the Watchtower after that point will become irrelevant too.”

    So it appears to come down to who’s sovereignty will you submit to? Jehovah via Jesus or the WT? (Joshua 24:15) 15 Now if it is bad in YOUR eyes to serve Jehovah, choose for yourselves today whom YOU will serve, whether the gods that YOUR forefathers who were on the other side of the River served or the gods of the Am′or·ites in whose land YOU are dwelling. But as for me and my household, we shall serve Jehovah.”

    • Easach L S of Coimbatore

      Okay that’s a nice decision. But as for me and my household, we will submit to Jehovah through Jesus

      • Brian

        Indeed, those that are submitting to Jesus are also by doing this submitting themselves to Jehovah.

    • Isaiah 28:15-18

  • Burt Reynolds

    Thought you guys might enjoy reading this. It’s about one of the most intricate motors of creation. As you can read, you can get a million of them on the cut end of a human hair. I find it a bit of a faith strengthener.

    Bacterial Flagellum: Evidence for a Creator
    by C.L. Taylor

    Studying this amazing machine may give you a different perspective on what some consider simple organisms. Its incredible complexity defies evolution!

    Bacterial Flagellum: Evidence for a Creator. Graphic from Wikimedia Commons by LadyofHats
    The complexity of the bacterial flagellum defies evolution!

    There is an amazing, little rotary engine that is in use trillions upon trillions of times every day that provides irrefutable evidence that there is a Creator. Like an outboard motor, this engine has a propeller, stator, motor, universal joint, driveshaft and bushings, and is perhaps one of the most energy-efficient machines in the world. The propeller operates at between 6,000 and 100,000 revolutions per minute and can completely reverse its direction within a quarter turn of its body.

    You might guess that it is a machine used in heavy industry. But without an electron microscope, you cannot even see this incredible piece of machinery. Called a flagellum, it is the “motor” that propels bacteria.

    Bacteria are essential to life. They aid in digestion and fight other, bad bacteria. Good bacteria cause milk to become yogurt, cucumbers to become pickles, apples to become vinegar, grapes to become wine and cabbage to become sauerkraut. The bacteria in these fermented foods are beneficial to our health.

    Irreducibly complex
    A flagellum helps a bacterium move through liquids. It is composed of 30 to 40 working parts and makes up a system Michael Behe, professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University, calls irreducibly complex—meaning that no part of the machine is of any value without the other parts.

    This is a big problem for evolutionists because any one part of an organism like this would not and could not have evolved “over time.” All must be present in order to function; and without even one small part, the flagellum would be useless.

    Evolution teaches that bacteria were one of the first life-forms to evolve, but most bacteria could not survive without this incredible “outboard motor” of the flagellum.

    When Darwin proposed the theory of evolution, he did not have access to an electron microscope and hence believed a single cell was the smallest and simplest component of living creatures. We now know that living cells contain a host of specialized machinery to keep the cell healthy, repaired and reproducing. The documentary “The Hidden Life of the Cell” by the BBC states that there are at least a billion little machines in each of the 120 trillion cells that make up a human being!

    While the single-celled bacterium is not as complex as other living things, it is not just a blob as Darwin thought. The “motor” part of a bacterium—the flagellum—is extremely complex. It is so amazing that New Scientist magazine calls it “a prime example of a complex molecular system—an intricate nanomachine beyond the craft of any human engineer” (Dan Jones, “Uncovering the Evolution of the Bacterial Flagellum,” Feb. 16, 2008, emphasis added). And yet it is so tiny that 8 million of them would easily fit on the cut end of a piece of human hair!

    But, as they say in the vernacular, you ain’t heard nothin’ yet! One of the most incredible aspects of this machinery is that it builds and repairs itself! It takes about 20 minutes for a new machine to be constructed, one part at a time, from the inside out. And each construction has several checks and balances that abort production if any part is not formed perfectly, thus saving energy and resources.

    Scott Minnich and Stephen Meyer say this about the flagellum of the E. coli bacteria:

    “The flagellum is a true nanomachine of remarkable complexity in structure and assembly control. This macromolecular machine self-assembles and repairs, displays assembly control and processing, operates with two gears, is fueled by proton motive force, and the apparatus is ‘hard-wired’ to a sensory apparatus that functions on short-term memory (chemotaxis). Rotor speeds for E. coli are estimated at 17,000 rpm but motors of some marine vibrios have been clocked upward of 100,000 rpm” (William Dembski, ed., Darwin’s Nemesis, 2006, p. 215).

    Without excuse
    How can anyone who honestly studies living cells doubt that a superior intelligence created them? Even if evolutionists could explain the irreducibly complex mechanics of a system like the flagellum (and they do try!), they cannot account for the intelligence inside it. What tells the flagellum to rotate its powerful “tail,” and who tells it where to go and what to do? Who tells it how to build or repair itself and abort production if something goes wrong?

    Biochemists, engineers and scientists in every field have come to see that the premise behind Darwinism—that life is a result of blind chance and mindless, undirected evolution—is not supportable and that the only reasonable explanation for life is intelligent design. Of course, most of these brilliant scientists do not accept the fact that the Designer they are describing is the God of this universe.

    As the apostle Paul says of them:

    “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:20-22).

    Inside each cell in our body there is a microcosmic universe of such complex engineering magnificence that it virtually defies the imagination. Even so, without the single-celled organisms, bacteria, we could not survive. The whole incredible system constitutes proof of a Creator.

    Fearfully and wonderfully made
    Centuries ago, King David pondered the creation and concluded this about the existence of God:

    “I am fearfully and wonderfully made; marvelous are Your works, and that my soul knows very well” (Psalm 139:14).

    For other examples of irreducible complexity that defy Darwinian evolution, see the article “Irreducible Complexity.”

    • Easach of Coimbatore

      I understood your comment. Were u an biology student? I was so I understood what you said. Helico bacterium pyloric that causes duodenal ulcers also has motor like mechanism that helps it to propel in the mucosa membrane of the human intestine. One more point to add. If anyone says that they can explain scientifically how life evolved, just ask them how the feeling shame exists only among humans not in other animal kingdoms. Why only humans wear clothes not animals? Can any evolutionists explain this?

      • Burt Reynolds

        Easach, that was not my work. I just offered it up as a faith strengthening article about how wonderfully we are made. The name of the author is credited at the first sentence.

    • Richard Long

      Thank you, Burt! Fascinating!

    • Daisy d

      Thanks so much for that Burt.
      I’m wondering what Darwin would make of the scientific advances over the years, would he embrace the evidence that we, and everything else, including the planet are wonderfully made, don’t we all have the same DNA code but in different orders. Probably not as there’s talk about Suntan being behind his ‘discoveries’
      These scientists you quote have been accused of being “God biased” I remember.
      One of them Michael Behe is Catholic, has ten children.
      I actually bought his book “Darwin’s Black Box
      for my husband, and Behe, like those above you quote aren’t fearful to be known how awestruck they are on finding much evidence that an Intelligent Designer is at work, and because of the stigma attached, most scientists wouldn’t admit to being ‘believers’.

  • Craig Knight

    I have heard that more scientists are becoming believer’s in God from their research on the DNA.

    Evolution fails to provide answers

    It is good to remember that, in spite of all the efforts of all the scientific laboratories around the world working over many decades, they have not been able to produce so much as a single human hair. How much more difficult is it to produce an entire body consisting of some 100 trillion cells!

    Up to now, Darwinian evolutionists could try to counter their detractors with some possible explanations for the complexity of life. But now they have to face the information dilemma: How can meaningful, precise information be created by accident —by mutation and natural selection? None of these contain the mechanism of intelligence, a requirement for creating complex information such as that found in the genetic code.

    Darwinian evolution is still taught in most schools as though it were fact. But it is increasingly being found wanting by a growing number of scientists. “As recently as twenty-five years ago,” says former atheist Patrick Glynn, “a reasonable person weighing the purely scientific evidence on the issue would likely have come down on the side of skepticism [regarding a Creator]. That is no longer the case.” He adds: “Today the concrete data point strongly in the direction of the God hypothesis. It is the simplest and most obvious solution …” ( God: The Evidence , 1997, pp. 54-55, 53).

  • Craig Knight

    The WT uses Isaiah 11:6 to say that Lions and other carnivores will eat grass and straw in the Kingdom but this scripture is symbolic. Note the commentary:

    Benson Commentary
    Isaiah 11:6-8. The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, — “We have here the illustrious consequence of the economy of this divine kingdom, this kingdom of righteousness, equity, faith, and grace.” The expressions which describe it are metaphorical: they represent the subjects of it under the figure of a flock, lying down and feeding under the care of the Messiah, as the great and chief shepherd, in the utmost peace, harmony, and security. Men of fierce, cruel, and ungovernable dispositions shall be so transformed by the preaching of the gospel, and by the grace of Christ, that they shall become most humble, gentle, and tractable, and shall no more vex and persecute those meek and poor ones, mentioned Isaiah 11:4; but shall become such as they. Yea, the most inveterate enemies of the kingdom of God, such as the persecuting Saul, shall be brought into its communion, having laid down their cruelty, barbarity, and ferocity, their inclination to hurt, their craft and subtlety; and not only so, but this kingdom also shall be purged from all offences, from all evils and instruments of malice. For the people, being enlightened with truth, and renewed by grace, shall put off their barbarous and depraved manners; shall willingly subject themselves to the rule of the Messiah, with meekness and humility, and shall fulfill the law of brotherly love in all the offices of good-will.

    Again WT uses a verse not intended to have a double meaning. Because they say these things will be literal in the animal kingdom. This causes lots of rebuke from scientists and people in general. Jehovah talks about creating the leviathan which is a fierce fighter in nature. But all these fierce beasts were made that way to control the excess animal population and so they are carnivorous by design. The prehistoric discovery’s show great reptiles that were designed by God to eat flesh. It’s silly to think of an animal like a lion eating straw with cow teeth. Again that scripture is not needed to prove that animals will be at peace with human beings. After God gave mankind animals for food Jehovah gave the animals a fear of mankind to make the playing field even. In the New System it’s obvious God will reverse the fear of animals so they will not flee from us. Gen 9:2 All the animals of the earth, all the birds of the sky, all the small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the fish in the sea will look on you with fear and terror. I have placed them in your power. It would be a piece of cake for God to make the animals at peace with man without altering their obvious traits of being carnivorous etc.

  • Jordan Seager

    The more I come here, the more hope and faith generates with the stuff I see here, but now i’m not going to congregation meetings anymore, I’m at a loss on what to do. I told my mother (who is a Witness) about this site, and that information got spread around the congregations like a deadly virus that I was viewing so called ‘apostate literature’, which instantaneously boiled my blood.

    I’m now almost labelled as an apostate just for simply questioning the false teachings of the watchtower, the leadership of it and mentioning the paedophile incidences, people are blanking me, walking past like they never knew me. I feel totally abandoned. I never thought it would pan out this way. It makes me sad and at the same time make my heart burn with anger. And now since going to meetings basically isn’t going to get me anywhere, how am I supposed to get baptised now, who am I going to associate with in the outside world…. this is definitely a large stumbling block for me.

    And what I now find most frustrating is that instead of using logic, the elders should start researching why i’m doing what i’m doing to begin with. If someone is to understand a problem, it need’s to be researched. But what are they doing… completely doing the opposite and disregarding the problem. One sided conversations It’s like try to grab a high voltage cable and expecting it to not electrocute you.

    I honestly don’t know what to do anymore, it’s really run me down, I’m not praying a much as I used to (which is’t a very good thing to do), i’m struggling with family life, I don’t preach, I do hardly anything now. Then they are probably going to use the guilt trip on me saying i’ll die at Armageddon because i’m not attending the congregation meetings and i’m looking at so called apostate literature……

    I’m sorry everyone for the current life story essay but there is no other way for me to vent this…… It’s like i’m in a mental pool of quick mud.

    • Since you are not baptized there isn’t anything they can do to you. I would just go forward and don’t let their attitude bother you. You can wear them down if you persevere. Conquer the evil with the good. I would suggest commenting at the meetings. If the elders don’t call on you when you raise your hand it will reflect badly on them, not you.

      • Giuseppe

        Anyone can now go to the meeting without leaving their Archie Bunker chair.

        • Burt Reynolds

          I think that what is bothering Jordan is the emotional distress of severance from a long term association with all that he/she has associated with for some considerable time but the transmitting of meetings and conventions is a good idea. My brother in law had the recent convention streamed to his home because he was too frail to get to the venue. It is a help spiritually. That’s one of the issues with the watchtower that you have hit on. They have no respect for the person and their emotive being, soul if you like. The mental distress felt by some in the watchtower has led to suicide and self mutilation. The watchtower seem to hold the view that we will thrive emotionally and spiritually if we for as they say, even though they beat us so, and tear families apart as they have done mine and countless others. Good point about the bunker!

        • Noe Namely

          We live on the road and are out of reach for regular meetings, a lot. I asked about getting the Sunday Talk & WT study broadcasts when we are hundreds of miles from a Kingdom Hall, I was told that I could not get it..that it was only for the elderly & fatally ill who could not attend. I wish I could hear the Talks again without having to go in and dodge all the Love Bombs. I would love to be able to have those Talks in my home so I could share them with my non JW wife who will not visit a Hall.

    • Daisy d

      I think it was Richard who posted last night to “help the wounded when they pop up”.
      Hope you don’t mind me thinking of you, as, over the last one hundred years, there must be thousands of people suffering because of the unloving way they’ve been dismissed simply because they don’t toe the line just because they think for themselves.
      Most of us here can relate to your sadness and pain if that’s any consolation.
      So, may I say in the most helpful way possible that you need a health warning before going back, as your emotional, mental and spiritual health is already suffering due to the unloving treatment of the congregants.
      Please stay praying to our heavenly Father as it is the only way that holy spirit can comfort and aid you The holy spirit that cannot be found in the congregations today…sadly. Much love from Daisy

      • Burt Reynolds

        Our very own ‘mother Daisy’. How I love your soft heart and tender compassion.

    • Giuseppe

      Hang in there Jordan, and retool the brain.
      Much love

    • KB

      Why in the world did your mother tell anyone about the information you found online. She had to of realized how the JWs would react to that information. What a pickle you are in. I sympathize with you. You need to realize the mindset of the witnesses. They will shun you in a quick minute if they think you are an apostate. The organization has molded them into little robots with their fear tactics and brainwashing. Roberts advice is spot on. If you want to go to the meetings you just have to fake it. This situation is exhausting I know. We all need to vent at times. You have found a place of like mind individuals. Hope we can be a source of encouragement. Don’t beat your self up about the things you feel you are falling short on. Jehovah knows the struggle is real and what you’re going through. I know I don’t pray as much as I should. I know Jehovah knows all my thoughts anyway regardless if I’m in prayer or just thinking about stuff. He’s with each of us anyways. Chin up, it gonna be alright.
      Isa 29:14
      Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people, With wonder upon wonder; And the wisdom of their wise men will perish, And the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.”

      • Burt Reynolds

        Well I don’t know how Jordan feels about your great words here but i am certainly encouraged by them ! Thanks KB.

      • Jordan Seager

        My mother didn’t do it intentionally, it was hinted that I was simply looking at a site… this site. If not the watcher than i’m in the wrong??? Even she sees parts of what is going on and thinks it’s wrong… but there’s nothing anyone can do about it, although there are great teachings in the watchtower, convincing someone that is neck deep into it is going to be difficult to prove that parts of the Watchtower are wrong and false. It actually hurts knowing of what little time there is left of this system.

        • KB

          I’ve also had conversations with my mother about the truths I’ve learned here. After explaining them from the scriptures and the visual realities taking place in the congregation she knows I’m on to something. Like your mother it’s hard for them to believe the “organization” can have so much wrong. No way they could be leading JWs down the wrong path, right. As for the time left in this system, all I know is that each day that passes I’m one day closer. I feel like even though this world is getting crazier by the minute, it’s gonna have to get much worst before the end is here. I’m tired of hearing about how close the end is. I’ve been hearing that my entire life and I’m almost 50 years old. I wonder if most other JWs are sick of hearing about how close the end is. Every convention and assembly for years and years. I was born and raised a JW. We just need to remain faithful and awake until it arrives.

    • Huldah

      Hi Jordan.
      You seem very intelligent and insightful.

      You have a good awareness of the psychological pressures used in the Cong.
      Stay alert to this.

      Protect yourself emotionally. If you have to stay away for a bit don’t feel guilty. Build yourself up spiritually apart from them.
      The Bible and prayer.

      If you are up to it, dig in your heels as Robert described and just act as if nothing happened. Sometimes we feel guilty and others take advantage of that.
      Hold your head up high and believe in your own heart that you did nothing wrong.
      Don’t let them bully you into feeling bad when you shouldn’t

      Be evasive if confronted. You don’t owe anyone an explanation. They will use ANY info you give them against you.

      Above all protect yourself then worry about your worship of Jehovah. Time will probably solve some of your problem as their overreaction dies down.

      Hope this helps a bit.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hello brother Jordan, don’t despair. What you see and feel is a natural phenomena and please remember that if your fellow man no longer recognises you, Jehovah certainly does know you and loves you dearly. He will not fail you. All of us here have had to walk the road you have just found, many through disfellowshipping, like Robert, many through dissasociation, many through shunning, all of us through loss and familial anguish just like you. We will all have to stand alone before Jehovah and answer for our course of action as will they. For you, you will be able to do so without fear because you have based your faith on Jehovah’s word and not upon the word of man and can see the difference. The bible also tells us that what you and we are experiencing is a fact of life….the bible says we will loose our loved ones, they may turn against us, but Jehovah will never abandon us.

      Here, on this site, you have presented to you on a take it or leave it basis, the unequivocal bible truths. There is no pressure to believe, there is no penalty for having an opinion, in fact, searching and discussion is open so that we can check our findings for validity from the bible. No one is greater than the other. No one is shunned, people tolerate and enjoy the different characters and value each other. The greatest of all these is love, as the bible says, and you are welcome to the fellowship here. Those that ‘see’ and ‘hear’ are not in this world for love and betterment from mankind, but to witness to them for what is to come. To sacrifice for that cause, all that we hold dear. The truth is not cheaply won. It is hard, isolating and lonely physically, but spiritually, prayer and inspection, the testing of the word and its faithful reliability, is the true comfort, for we walk with Jehovah, not man, as an individual to that one who recognises us. It is a life choice and the epitome of our existence to those that know it. Cast off what is left behind, bring with you that which is willing, and may Jehovah bless you and keep you, may he make his face to shine upon you and be merciful to you. The most gracious verse in the bible. Deuteronomy 20 if I am not mistaken and which I probably am. Welcome Jordan….to life.

    • Cathii D’Anthonii

      Psalms 119:165 “Abundant peace belongs to those loving your law, and for them there is no stumbling block”

    • e.v.g

      Sadly as JW’s we are more aware about our good standing in the congregation, sometimes we are going to the meetings because we don’t want that the others were talking badly of us, some of them are more worried about their good standing between their brothers and sisters, that feeling could cause psichological harm and even worst because they are not doing all that with good motives. Don’t worried about what they are thinking about you, just worried about what is thinking God about you.

      • Bklyn Kevin
        • Huldah

          Matt 10: 12 When you enter the house, greet the household. 13 If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it;+ but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. 14 Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.+ 15 Truly I say to you, it will be more endurable for the land of Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah+ on Judgment Day than for that

          Does this apply to God’s household too?
          Makes me wonder if Robert had this text in mind when he was being disfellowshipped fir revealing the truth about 1914.

          Really intriguing concept. I never looked at this text this way. Can’t I just shake the dust off my feet and wait for Jehovah to clean his un “deserving” house?

    • Noe Namely

      Many of us have similar experiences as you’ve described Jordan. Don’t apologize, its understood here. It’s natural to turn the hurt inward. That needs to run it’s course and then let it go asap. Remembering the wisdom you have gained over the years and apply it to your current situation. Above all, try very hard to let the Forgiving Heart navigate your course from here on. Jehovah knows all things and he knows your situation too. Trust that he will steer you where he wants you to be….Keep praying to him and asking for his guidance, his love and forgiveness while asking to be shown the correct path all the while working to forgive those who have played a part in derailing your faith & taking the wind out of your sails. Basically Jordon, just keep on keeping on as best you can and suddenly, you will look around and realize Jehovah has led you to higher ground. All the Best to you!

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