Podcast #69

//Podcast #69

(Feb 17, 2016) What about the sin of Gibeah? Are Jehovah’s Witnesses the only ones who are going to be saved? Will persons who are killed in the war at Armageddon be resurrected? Do all anointed brothers have to die a Martyr’s death? Are you sure that there will not be a big influx of people who recognize what is happening when the system goes down, and make it into the new system? And much more!

2016-12-08T15:10:40+00:00 February 17th, 2016|Podcasts|195 Comments
  • Great podcast tonight brother! I had several of those moments like you back in the late 90’s telling the brothers there’s going to be a ww3 and that they are setting up a system of tracking everything you do. Needless to say that I was a outcast and looked down on because of my views.
    Look at what they have done to the people, no one uses cash now they have all gotten so used to using their debit cards for everything so when the cashless society begins along with the New World Order it’s all set up , people have fall into the trap “including brothers and sisters”.

    • Oh and yes I do deeply love Jehovah and Jesus, always have. Don’t care to much for some stiff neck heartless humans though.

    • ewatchman

      BTW, I read your comment about your missing the audio version of the daily commentary. I guess I got lazy. Anyway, I started it up again http://jehovahs-witnesses-daily-text.com/

      • Thanks for taking the time to bring back the recorded version, I enjoy reading them but I really appreciate hearing them as well. They are very interesting and insightful & I save them to my sound cloud and share with my home bound elderly mother when I visit her. She loves your work as well, she has been abandoned by the WTBTS when she was no longer able to make it to the meetings and out in service after 50 years.

      • Holy Conolli

        Robert. With JW’s celebrating the Memorial on 3/23/16 this year. What are your feelings on that? Do you agree with the WT date of the memorial? I know there is controversy over different calendars used and proper dates etc.I am no expert on that matter nor do I want to be. Do you celebrate it with others or just on your own? I assume you partake?

        • hey Holly Molly, we havent heard from you for a while

          • Mark Adams

            Just busy. I did go to the memorial. 1st time in like 15 years. Saw a lot of folks from the past.

    • Nip It in the Bud

      Lonely at the top ay?

  • tortas

    Thanks for the podcast Robert.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    Great Pod Cast! But I still have doubt on J.F. Rutherford whether is was really an anointed one because his way of behavior and his drunkenness doesn’t seem to be anointed. Any feed back from e-watchman or any one is accepted.

    • ewatchman

      Jesus warned that anyone who follows him will be reviled. Jesus himself was accused of being a drunkard. Paul was slandered by the superfine apostles as being weak and an awful public speaker. C.T. Russell has been slandered as a con man and womanizer. It just goes on and on and on. Keep in mind that the god of this world is the original slanderer.

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Thanks for that advice e-watchman. I will now try to mend my thoughts.

    • Bklyn Kevin
      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Thanks a lot and I accept that please read the reply which I made to Patri in the above comments

        Bklyn Kevin just read the reply which I have made to Patri

    • patri

      I too have doubts like you Basavaraj. Hope that doesn’t make me a slanderer, perish the thought. Its gone now, but a while ago there was colour film of Rutherford showing off his most beautiful garden at Beth Sarim, full of pale pink roses I coveted and lots of apple trees. In one scene he plucked a fat red apple, held it close to his face and made lascivious movements with his protubing tongue. I kid you not. And. His jolly red sweaty face showed all the signs of a liquid lunch. Couldn’t help but get the feeling that he was ridiculing the world’s viewpoint of original ‘sin’ in the garden of Eden. But then, its only my opinion and I’m prepared to be seen as one of those gossipers. I thought him repulsive in every way.

      • Song of Hannah

        Gen 9:20 Now Noah started off as a farmer, and he planted a vineyard. 21 When he drank of the wine, he became intoxicated, and he uncovered himself inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Caʹnaan, saw his father’s nakedness, and he told his two brothers outside. 23 So Shem and Jaʹpheth took a garment and put it upon both their shoulders and walked in backward. Thus they covered their father’s nakedness while their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father’s nakedness. 24 When Noah woke up from his wine and learned what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said:“Cursed be Caʹnaan.Let him become the lowest slave to his brothers.”

        • patri

          That’s what you get when you plant a vineyard Hannah. Drunk!
          Two sons respectful and compassionate towards Noah. The other son ridiculing his father.
          It shows us how each and every one of us are responsible for our own decisions and actions.
          Thanks for that Hannah. It’s my daughter’s name, lovely…

          • Song of Hannah

            Thanks for your thoughts Patri. The reason I appreciate this scripture so much, is that we can see a glimpse of Jehovah’s own personal feelings, on how we should deal with the imperfections of others. Should we “expose their nakedness” to others, or “cover them over”? For Jehovah to record such a small moment in the lifetime of these men, shows the brothers reactions were of utmost importance to him.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I enjoyed reading your thought and I’m sure Paul and Peter would have agreed with you as well.

              It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.1 Corinthians 13:7.

              Above all things, have intense love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins
              Peter 4:8.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              amen. awesome point

      • ewatchman

        Doing stupid things doesn’t necessarily mean a person is not a Christian. And I did not mean to imply that Rutherford did not imbibe or that he was probably even immoderate at times. But to put things in perspective the apostle Paul admonished Christians to stop getting drunk with wine but keep getting filled with spirit. He would not have giving that admonishment if all of the brothers and sisters back then were teetotallers.

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Also Thanks to Patri. i feel e-watchmans advice is sound though I am a teetotaler.

        • patri

          Thanks for that Basavaraj. I was commiserating, not advising.
          Yes, like Noah, just one bad decision can ruin a reputation for ever and he wasn’t “anointed”. Mind you, if I suffered the trauma of surviving a global flood, being imperfect, I’d try anything to blot out the memory, even though I’m not a regular imbiber. What was Rutherford’s excuse other than that alcohol came free by the crate.

          • ewatchman

            Rutherford came up in a Mailbag question awhile back https://e-watchman.com/judge-rutherford/

            • patri

              Morning Robert. Just read the above through. Thanks. And I couldn’t agree more!
              Before I feel beleaguered I’ll just mention that in no way shape or form were my comments meant as a judgement. Nobody’s perfect. Period.

        • D34D 4L!3N

          can i know what kind of drinks you enjoy? i would like to try some even if not new to me and think to myself how i know a brother who said some good things that meant a lot to me

          • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

            I like Apple Milk Shake, Orange Juice, Almond Milk

            • humm, never had apple milk shake.
              ty, i will try some 🙂

    • Holy Conolli

      Rutherford was a drunk and a Cigar smoker and materialistic person who used people for his own benefit and the fact that he deeded over his San Diego house to King David shows he was also on the crazy side. He was a mean person and dictatorial as well. He had 2 V-16 Cadillac’s that he drove on the publishers dime during the depression. Those cars of that time cost more than the average house. He also disregarded the constitution and will of Russell when he died and had a Hostile take over of the WT. It is hard to defend the indefensible. I am not the Judge and I am sure there are 1/2 truths about him but
      his lifestyle is not one to be followed and if he was alive today he would Be disfellowshipped for his “APOSTATE” teachings and his way of life. Hard to believe he was anointed.

      • ewatchman

        No doubt Rutherford had his faults. And he is also an easy target. It is “indefensible” because he is not alive to defend himself. The gossipers and slanders can say and believe whatever they want. But you really don’t have to defend him. What is the point? The only thing we are required to defend is the truth and our own faith.

        • e.v.g

          Exactly.Thanks brother!

        • Holy Conolli

          True he is not here to defend himself but his writings are still here and his speeches and the things he said and taught. How can we say he had God’s blessings when he builds a house ( mansion ) of that time period for himself and has 2 super rich Cadillacs worth more than homes of his day during the depression and at the same time preaching that the end was imminent? Yet he was planting vineyards and living the life of Luxury. At the same time it is common knowledge he loved to drink and over indulge in Whiskey and Fine Cigars. This was after his false prediction that 1925 was going to see the end of the world and more important date in the bible than 1914.
          Even if we set these things aside his books and teachings were so off the chart and inaccurate that he was not even close to being correct scripturally on any of the things he taught. Also he originally was not neutral in WW2 but took the side of the Germans at first and then changed as time went on. Also made some very anti Sematic comment about Jewish people. He also Verbally wrote super Nasty things about his former “brothers” when he expelled them from the WT and took over by legal force.
          The Point it how could Jehovah had been leading him and revealing truths to him during his time as Pres of the WT and being od the “Anointed”. When I was an active Elder up until the 1990’s these things always bothered me about the WT bit they whitewashed everything of their past and made him out to be a Hero and a person of integrity. Nothing he said came true and that is the sign of a false prophet.
          As I said I am not the judge here but look at his history read what he taught. There are so many ridiculous teachings in my mind there is no way he could have been led buy Jehovah. Same thing with the Current WT teachings. They jump all over the place every day almost and do the flip flop continually. How can we believe them if they never come true especially with Rutherford. I mean really what is their to deend from the Judge Rutherford.

          • e.v.g

            Actually we were not eyewitnesses to what he has done, as brother Robert has been writing God’s people are blind, only some understanding has been opened, the rest has been a bonus of lies and misinterpretations, precisely for us to be tested.

            • Holy Conolli

              So you are saying the JW’s are Gods people? As an X JW Elder who has never been df’s I have to disagree w you. They have a horrible, horrible track record of accuracy and if you read the writings of Rutherford and others and even latest journals you can see they are out of whack w reality. We are not tested by the WT religion. We are tested by our own heat condition. Jw’s have nothing to do with truth.Wt is a dictatorship and a cult that destroys families and friends.

            • Bklyn Kevin
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            • Bklyn Kevin
            • e.v.g

              Well, I guess we’re not ready to suffer as Christ, (1Cor 1:18,21 3:18) in fact no one is ready, JW’s are not God’s people yet, they have to be tested and disciplined first. We can not find perfection now and no miraculous sign between us (1Cor 13:13) but for those in the outside, things will not be very good either.

            • Holy Conolli

              Well the JW’s have been around for 140 years if they’re not God’s people yet when will they be God’s people? They claimed in 1919 Jehovah and Jesus chose them but the facts do not support that claim. I mean I was a Jehovah’s Witness for 25 years and left on my own because I realize it could not be the truth also a 1914 theory is false so is the phase 1 discreet slave very low blood transfusion ferry and the sexual molestation cases prove otherwise there are so many inconsistencies plus the fact that they join the United Nations and also that they own stock in companies that make military equipment for wars like Boeing airplane and others. The Jehovah’s Witnesses have harmed a lot of people.
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            • e.v.g

              Men do stupid things, for example do you can trust in a man like David or Solomon who had many wives and after they wrote about morality or whatever, is not God who has tolerated so much stupidity on the part of men ? God will have any obligation ? I think God has been patient until today.

            • Holy Conolli

              EVG. Yes men do stupid things all the time and we all fall short but that is quite different than telling the entire world that God chose the WT in 1919 to represent him over all other religions and not have anything to back it up. As mentioned NOT 1 thing the Wt has said has come true in 140 years of existence. We can always find a bad example in the Bible but that doesn’t justify the ridiculous predictions and false teachings Rutherford or the other WT writers made There is No evidence Jehovah Chose the WT in 1919. In fact if you go back to what they were teaching in 1919 if you taught that today you would be df’d for Apostacy but yt it was promoted as “TRUTH” at the time. The same goes for much of the teaching of the WT over the years and even up to a few years or months ago. If you still taught that the F&D Slave is ALL OF THE ANNOINTED at anytime on the earth you will be DF’d butjust a ferw months ago it was a mjor teaching of the WT for decades. If you teach that this “GENERATION” of 1914 will not pass away as they did for 60-70 years you will be DF’d. If you teach that it is not llowable to take “BLOOD FRACTIONS” you will be Df’d but yet these teaching were all
              major teachings up until a few months./years ago. Isn’t that enough poof in itself that the WT does not have Jehovah’s guidance and was not chosen by him?

            • e.v.g

              Did you read brother Robert’s book Jehovah himself has become King? the articles from this site are very interesting too, but, in the end, you and me including brother Robert we can not solve these issues or problems, just what we have available to us is what we can do, as men of the past who suffered hardships because of unjust men with the purpose to inherit something better than what exists today , we may have to endure the same, (Heb. 12:11,13) if you still believing in Jehovah and Jesus that’s good, sometimes the problems are not outside if not within our own heart.

            • Holy Conolli

              EVG. You are right that sometimes the problem is with our own heart. Who knows the heart except for Jehovah? I did rad some of it but I am not quite sur his point on many things in relation to the JW’s? On one hnd he says they are false but on the other hand he tells People who are considering leaving the Wt that except for the 1914 Theory they still have much of the truth but have just apostatized at the moment? To me it is a very confusing point of view. I mean to me you either have the truth or you don’t. Just like I listened to his pod cats and a question was about someone having a bible study and he said well if you can skip over the 1914 part and just teach them other things made no sense to me. So you are going to tell them the JW’s have part of the truth but don’t believe a few things they teach and the GB is wrong etc? To me, there are so MANY inconsistencies the JW religion and flip flop teachings how can anyone believe it? Yet, he also says don’t leave the religion etc?
              Very confusing to me and he does not tell us where else to look for truth except his writings? No disrespect intended here toward his writings but just a lot of uncertainty and things like that. Yes, I 100% disagree with the entire 1914 fabrication bwhich is the most central part of the WT teachings and I am supposed to just put that aside and believe the other parts?

            • e.v.g

              Is not confusing to me, we have to believe and love Jehovah, although is not easy and make the effort through this wicked system, my life was in dark full of doubts without spirituality, I am not going back with all that mess, but is not about me is about to love and worship God, we have the example of Jesus and God servants from the past, living with doubts and resentments could sick our spirit, some men did stupid things but i did stupid things too, but we are looking to be approved by God, we have the necessary truth no need for signs or miracles, this website is proof of that also the partial truth of the watchtower continues iluminate a little, unfortunately the devil is working making doubts in our minds and sometimes we are easy prey, this world is full of lies and these circumstances will not end until the devil is eliminated, is not easy to understand the truth but praying to Jehovah could help.
              Good luck.

            • Holy Conolli

              EVG. OK you say you are not going back with all that mess right? So what are you doing now then. Where are you going now? Are you attending any bible group studies with others of the same mind or just reading on your own or do you consider Robert to be the one leading the Spiritual yearnings right now? I read lot’s of things about the WT these days and many feel like you do and as I do but yet some are attending other religious services and some claim to have Found God / Jesus on their own through personal bible study etc and some attend other Churches and have left the WT forever and regret that they ever were associated with them. Some have similar believes o what Robert teaches and ALL believe that 1914 is a farce and Jesus never came that year.
              So what service spiritually speaking do you attend? What would you recommend I attend to fulfill my spiritual need? I am open to suggestion and I guess you could say I am a truth seeker still.

            • e.v.g

              Do you agree that the Watchtower has bases about the truth ?
              “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
              Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth.
              Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
              Many people have found the truth in the watchtower.
              Although Jesus said “and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free”.
              Satan have found many ways to enslave men, the organizational arrangement of the watchtower is one of them, brother Robert has been explaining this lot of times, i am not following the FDS neither i am not following brother Robert but I thank them their work and dedication in relation with the truth, Jehovah will send Jesus as a saviour during the time of the end, we are free to choose the religion we want, but they are also sprinkled with demonic teachings (I better hide in a shell like turtles) this is a test for you and me and for all JW’s if we are following men or if we are following God, apparently this is what is affecting us.

            • Holy Conolli

              EVG, Honestly it seems to not make sense what you are saying? Many people have found the truth in the WT? Just bc they have a few teachings that Robert and others accept like the teaching on the soul, the condition of the dead and the trinity etc. Other religions teach the same things and BTW Russell did not discover those teachings himself they were borrowed from other religions of his time. Still today other religions teach those things also but have different viewpoints on other scriptures, So if the truth is just believing a few basic doctrines when you have the other 80% wrong to me that I snot the truth. As far as just going to other religions or believes and carrying around a few doctrines does not make sense that the WT has the truth. Just remember they have not been correct on any prophecy they have uttered In 140 years.. That is not spiritually satisfying to me to just believe a few things they teach and disregard the rest especially since the teachings of the WT are subject to change at anytime for any reason. What they teach today they may not teach tomorrow and the bottom line to me is we need to have a personal relationship w God and Jesus Christ and no organization can give that to you. The Wt has never had the real truth. Perhaps a few accurate teachings but all religions have some accurate teachings right. The fact that 90% say God created the heavens and the earth is an accurate teaching or that Jesus died for our sins is an accurate teaching.

            • e.v.g

              I am glad that the watchower doesn’t have any true prophet or whatever, since Charles Taze Russell and the bible students, they analyzed some doctrines written in the bible, probably taken information here and there because they wanted to know the truth, they had good motives, although the situation is different today,
              some men are insinuating that they have direct revelations from God, brother Robert has been pointing this few years ago, he also is taken information here and there too, analizyng the bible etc…
              I believe in the holy spirit of God, I believe that this spirit has moved men to discover some hidden things in the bible, it is not necessary to know who discover this or that because we are not going to worship that person, Jehovah will reward that individual.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              Jehovah doesnt just allow his name to be attached to people that dont beling imespecially spreading

            • D34D 4L!3N

              Jehovah doesnt just allow his name to be attached to anybody, especially spreading his name globally

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D. Would you recommend I go back to the KH and associate with the JW’s again? Perhaps just don’t say how I feel about the many things like 1914 and other teachings?

            • D34D 4L!3N

              well, i dont know your personal situation and circumstance but we know the scripture says to gather yourselvs together even more so as the day draws near an of course you are doing that here via social disqus on the Watchman’s Post, which is a great tool for doing that, for now. also we know the scripture says to put up with one another. it also says to use soundness of mind.
              i wouldnt try to convince anyone at the Hall so much as simply telling the truth as its Jehovah that will make it grow if their heart is receptive. just dont get yourself hurt but if you do, just be happy its cause you stuck up for Jehovah even among our own

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D. If I do go back to the KH and share my thoughts or thoughts on here I am sure I would get DF’s at some point or they would call me an apostate and shun me. I know one brother that it happened to even though he barely spoke negative he just starting saying that the GB was preaching the wrong message about 1914 an BAM! Within a few weeks of saying that to a few people he was “warned” to Keep quiet or suffer he circumstances and he just quit going to meetings altogether bc of that and even his family avoided him. He was so depressed he hasn’t returned for over 5 years now.
              I was thinking of going back but if I did I could not conscientiously go door-door anymore. I could not preach a message to people that I Know in my heart is wrong.
              I know it just wouldn’t be the teachings of 1914 but some others as well. It s a gaed decision.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              yeah, its happend to me too. its no fun. but im happy to see you here an your association means a lot to your brothers and sisters here. we can just pray through Jesus and do what we can to serve Jehovah. youre not superman

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D.Most of my family would shun me or worse an d not sure I could handle that very well.It has been some years that I have been to the KH. Do you still attend regular? Do they shun you?

            • D34D 4L!3N

              yep. im more worried about Jehovah shunning me then anything. my relationship with him means everything to me. but hey what did Jesus tell you? – Luke 14:26

              i make it when i can and i listen in on the phone too given my situation.
              already ive been looked down at and i didnt even say much of anything, so yeah, shuned yet again already. not kool at all. but theres more then one hall an each hall has more then just one congregation too, so that helps some where im located

            • Holy Conolli

              I understand what you are saying and the scripture you say Is true,
              Funny thing the Elders used the same scripture to shun that person I told you about and his family also
              and thy use it to justify shunning anyone that does not believe the 1914 teaching and other things. There are also 3 KH where I used to attend also but Most of them still know me bc my wife is a pioneer for may years and we used to have GB members stay overnight at our house when they were in town. She loved it bc she felt like she was hosting Jesus himself. She knows of my position on some o f the teachings and wanted me to discuss it with e GB brothers that stayed at the house but I did not want to bc that could open a can of worms. Plus, what are they going to say anyway. They would just quote a WT article. As you know there is no room for discussion on certain things.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              yeah, we all relate to your situation in some way or another as we all here relate to each others ordeal. good thing is, you now have special insight none of them have. for example, Isaiah is a closed book to the stupid seers of the WT but to you its open. that means that the mind of Jehovah is open to you here and now to learn from him. how awesome is that!

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D. I think a lot more JW do have some of the insight you speak of but are afraid to talk about it openly. When I brought up a few things to certain “open minded” Jw’s they say you are right but don’t say that to very many people and keep it between us? SO many must be thinking the same thoughts. I have just strated thnking along thes lines you are speking of and nnotsure of the application of the book of Isaih you refer to as regards the WT society etc. What would you recommend I read or study as a basic point of view of this web site. Sort of like in the old days when we would study with a new one using the “truth” book or the ones that followed it to have a basic understanding of things?
              Also? Do you still go door-door occasionally? Do you Hold or conduct a Bible study with anyone? Do you think that is important or necessary now in the current electronic age and internet?

            • D34D 4L!3N

              (randomly edited over time)

              i know there are some in the Halls that know something aint right, for example i know somene who said something about the new slave teaching is off in the July 2013 watchtower.

              the seers and visionaries dont know the scriptures correctly, Isaiah is much prophetic. their version is way off but that itself Jehovah said was going to be the case. read Robert’s site here, try reading under his Isaiah link or rather just read a subject that sparks your intrest. do that as youve been talking to Jehovah. i can tell you Jehovah is delighted to help you. listen to the audio in the background as your doing things around the house. get a mp3 player, put the audio from his book on it an listen to it all day as your just out and about – jehovah-is-king.com

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D. Ok Thanks for the info. I will do that. Just curious what time zone are you in bc I am in Northern California pacific Coast time and most people are asleep by now but I am kind of a night owl and go to bed about 2 am every day. Are you in the USA?

            • D34D 4L!3N

              yeah, im in the US, im a vampire, if i get to much sunlight i turn to dust. ha

            • Holy Conolli

              me to. Good night. I need to hit the sack. Talk later.

            • whats the news?

            • Holy Conolli

              D34D. Looking through some of this web site I noticed there is a connection to Lyndon Larouche? What is if any the connection between him and Robert or this web site?
              I remember Larouche from many years ago and only knew him as a “far right” ideas and anti Communistic type person. What is the relation to this site if any? Do you know?

            • D34D 4L!3N

              mr Larouche is a old man, darn near a hundred, that has been active and around, of course, in world governmental affairs but has been much more honest and accurate with his insight. so hes just been a good source for information an news – e-watchman.com/me-and-lyndon-larouche

              personally, i like the guy an hope he will be one Jehovah will see ok for an opportunity to live in the new kingdom but who knows

            • ewatchman

              I wrote an article some years ago entitled Me and Lyndon LaRouche. https://e-watchman.com/me-and-lyndon-larouche/ BTW, he is not a right-winger, anti-communist. He is a Roosevelt Democrat. Ran for the presidential nomination against Bill Clinton 20+ years ago as a Democratic and before that as an Independent.

              My interest is not in his politics, as such, but because of the fact he is the most vocal advocate of the forgotten American System, which is anthesis of the British system which has become most dominate, expressed as the Wall Street, central bank monetary monstrosity today.

              I spent about a decade studying up on stuff like this http://american_almanac.tripod.com/intro.htm which formed my views on the King of the north, etc and am a long time subscriber to Executive Intelligence Review. EIR http://www.larouchepub.com/

            • Holy Conolli

              I remember him from years ago when I was a Union worker at the shipping docks and he came down there during the Carter years. He was pretty accurate in his views at the time and what he was saying about USA. For sure a smart and interesting guy..

            • Kevin b

              Good advice!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Conolli I realize we didn’t see things in the same perspective and if I offended you, I apologize.
              Your latest comment above clearly shows your willingness to be reasonable in respect to Jehovah’s will.
              I think your idea is wonderful and if you follow through I’m sure Jehovah will bless your endeavors.

              [Love] does not look for its own interest does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, “endures all things”. Love never fails.
              1 Corinthians 5-8.
              Let each one keep seeking, not his own advantage, but that of the other person.
              1 Corinthians 10:24.
              As you look out not only for your own interests, but also for the interests of others.
              Philippians 2:4
              Continue putting up with one another and forgiving one another freely even if anyone has a cause for complaint against another. Just as Jehovah* freely forgave you, you must also do the same.
              Colossians 3:13
              When [Jesus] was being insulted, he did not insult in return. When he was suffering, he did not threaten, but he entrusted himself to the One who judges righteously.
              1 Peter 2:23.

            • Holy Conolli

              No Problem. Sometimes emails and things like that do not allow true feelings and insight to be expressed. Plus I am still trying to figure out this web site here bc there is stuff all over the place and say lot’s of things and as far as I can tell there is not one place to start and read the next level etc. I guess if someone had been reading this for some time they could figure it out.

            • Kevin b

              It’s amazing how much information is on this website. I’ve been here for about 3 years, and still come across things I haven’t seen before. Everything written in Roberts articles are backed up by the spriptures. I always felt something wasn’t right before but couldn’t put my finger on it. Now the bible finally makes since.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              You’re right, the Internet does have its drawback In that respect , And yes brother Robert’s web site can be overwhelming With its abundance of wonderful information /Spiritual food.
              So if you need help with anything as to find something please feel free to ask me or anyone for that matter “Especially Brother Robert” .
              P.S. Here is a link to his book .http://jehovah-is-king.com/truth/

            • Holy Conolli

              Ok Thanks. If I wanted to get some basic understanding and then move up to other things how would you suggest it? From My JW days it was having a basic Bible study in the truth book or the “Live forever book” and then onto “deeper” things. Is there a systematic approach like that here? Even the book as you mention can be overwhelming at times. I am kind of a systematic person in my own mind. I like to learn the basics and then go to the next level and so on.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Good question… I think to some degree we are all systematic providing we have a good starting point and motivation and of course our motivation should be to know Jehovah’s will and wholeheartedly seek to do his will and that’s what the early founders of the watchtower track society set out to do but unfortunately they got caught up in the “operation of error” concerning their 1914 scenario as for told in the bible.Read more > https://e-watchman.com/watchtower-made-errors/.

              For sure the watchtowers erroneous prophecies all tie into the 1914 “operation of the error”, so in order to fully appreciate what is going on in the watchtower one has to get the basic knowledge of their foundation concerning the 1914 “operation of error”, so that will be a good place to start because once you fully comprehend that aspect then you will be better able to tie everything else together as to get the big picture.
              A Closer Look @ 1914

              https://e-watchman.com/closer-look-1914/

              WT Review https://e-watchman.com/wt-review/

              How can active Jehovah’s Witnesses deal with 1914?https://e-watchman.com/how-to-deal-with-1914/

              A Detailed Summary of the Time of the Endhttps://e-watchman.com/a-detailed-summary/
              A Message for Jehovah’s Witnesses
              Robert Kings You tube pagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxo9pyq9ExM

            • Bklyn Kevin
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            • patri

              The decision to go back is an extremely personal one. You have to feel it, desire it, want it, to know deep down its the right choice to make. You will go through the motions knowing that when you get back home you can pour yourself a double brandy and feed yourself on the spiritual “banquet” here. Hope you don’t mind my butting in.
              If you do decide positively, bear in mind that the governing body are only presiding over Jehovah’s sheep temporarily. They’ve already sold out; to the board of directors in 2000, its all downhill

            • patri

              Sorry, I’m tapping on my phone, didn’t finish, but you get my drift I hope…

            • Holy Conolli

              Patti. What is the difference between the GB and the Board of directors? I read something like that happening but did not understand it. Is that some kind of political move to distance themselves from law suits? Why would the BOD want to take on that liability if now they are the ones who will carry the burden of lawsuits? How did they sell out as you say? I have been gone since the mid 90’s but have kept up with Much of the changes but not in detail.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              jehovah-is-king.com/judgment

              Ezekiel 44:7-8
              compare the new revised NWT with the old NWT

              if that dont blow your mind

            • D34D 4L!3N

              here – jehovah-is-king.com/judgment
              and here – http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/… January 15, 2001 Watchtower Announcement.

              Ezekiel 44:7-8
              compare the new revised NWT with the old NWT

              if that dont blow your mind

            • i noticed the link was broke. edited/fixed it i hope

            • Holy Conolli

              Patri. I t seems hypocritical for me to go back if I don’t really believe it? Although I am beginning to see that some of you on here do. That is hard for me to understand.
              I mean go back and do what? Pretend I am a full fledged JW again but keep silent on the inside. I could not go door-door bc I really don’t believe most of it. Then the Elders always want to meet with you and make sure you are on board 100% and all that stuff etc. Thnen they will drill you and ask you if you have been a good boy for the last 20 years and get into your personal life . Next thing they want you to go out in FS.
              It is almost like they are preparing you to go over the 80 questions for baptism again.
              Not sure if I could do that. I have to think about it for a long time. Just curious how many on here do you think attend meetings at the KH and go along with the WT even though they don’t believe it.

            • patri

              Ok then…Don’t go back! That’s a decision only YOU can make.
              You alone. Like all of us you are bestowed with free will.
              Whether we live or die (forever) depends on our loving our God with our whole heart soul and mind, not on attending meetings and format.
              I wouldn’t be a man for trillions! I admit there is tremendous pressure on our brothers who serve in the congregations.
              But, in my experience there has been no interference in my personal life. No questions asked. A few things stand out though. There is fear and suspicion towards us returning ones in that we are monitored and every utterance is analysed and judged accordingly I have noticed that.
              So, I’d just like to say that without reading and re re rereading here, as much as I can every day, till my eyes turn to fog I wouldn’t have coped with even the idea of returning. And you know, its quite entertaining listening to the “smooth things” and “deceptive things” because through this site, all Robert’s hard work, I’m one of those who “see” the correct understanding of the prophetic visions that Jehovah originally gave to the biblical visionaries and seers. I can forgive the miserable, joyless WTS for all my anguish now.
              Bklyn K evg d34d have provided links above regarding all your questions. Read the chapters in Robert’s book on the fall of the watchtower, he explains the why’s and wherefores with much scriptural support as backup. Try jwfacts.com re g.b and the legal history of the society if you must?
              Peace brother! Peace! You are in turmoil and you need not be.
              Here is a place of refuge and we are here for a reason. Give your head a rest and lean lean lean on Jehovah. HE has made a covenant with LIFE.
              Have to go care for my 80yr old husband but you’re in my thoughts. . . 😀

            • Sam

              On the point of the ministry and not believing most of it. I imagine you believe Jehovah is God and Jesus is his son… the soul isn’t immortal, hell isn’t real, God’s Kingdom is the solution to mans problems etc if so thats all you need to talk to others about. No need to bring up all the other baggage. So in reality you probably believe most of it..

            • Holy Conolli

              Sam I get it but the 1914 kingdom the isn’t the real kingdom. Plus many other things they teach but anyway I am pondering it and trying to sift thru my mind.I guess it comes down to what you accept from them and what you reject. So I guess as I am beginning to understand on here is that most of you believe you are JW’s but the org has apostatized and failed its calling? AM I right to assume that?

            • Sam

              You’re right, but that doesn’t change what the kingdom WILL do does it? Keep at it, it takes a while to make sense of things. I would say you have the right idea, the WT is as how Israel was- Still being used by God to a degree, but awaiting Jehovah’s judgement. The book will clear that up

            • Song of Hannah

              Right, and not only that, but that this was all foretold by the prophets, in specific detail. Please take some time to read the book “Jehovah is King”, link: http://jehovah-is-king.com/ . It explains everything right from the scriptures.

        • Holy Conolli

          Good point you bring out but that is my entire question when you say that the only point is to defend the truth? Yes, I agree but to me nd many others he was not preaching the truth and therefore Jehovah could not have been leading the WT at that time.

        • jacob

          And that knowledge of truth that we must have faith in, and that must be defended, is the truth that an anointed one must proclaim, in union with Christ, who IS truth.

          The knowledge of God’s requirements are written on the heart of an anointed one. Heb 10:16; Cor 3:2,3 If this one is to know truth through the blessing of Holy Spirit, it would not be presented in the absence of love to the sheep. Rom 13:10 I say this, because love is not present when one is admonished to stay quiet when questions over doctrine arise, when doctrines dictating the handling of child abuse is futile in protecting the victims, when other anointed ones who are blessed with this law on their hearts have no mouth to speak under the rule of an elder body. 1 Cor 3:16,17; 6:19; Matt 24:15

          Knowing truth is knowing the laws written on the heart, which are fulfilled in love. Each anointed one is to prove themselves “blameless and pure, ‘children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.’ Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky.” Phil 2:15

          If one teaches failed predictions and changing doctrine that must be adhered as truth at the time, guiding all sheep to accept without question, how can they remain in union with Christ receiving the fruit of the spirit which provides TRUTH? John 8:32; 15:4 Could the spirit residing in such a one be something other than Holy Spirit?

          “For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!” 2 Cor 11:4

          If the truth of Christ is not being preached correctly, then we have every right to question anyone who supposedly speaks in the name of God, and we walk away from lies. Under the New Covenant, there is no place for darkness and wayward teachings.

          “For I, the Lord, love justice; I hate robbery for burnt offering; I will direct their work in truth, And will make with them an everlasting covenant.” Isa 61:8

          Is the organization being directed “in truth”? It seems evident that it is not.

          “He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him”. 1 John 2:10

          “Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, ‘I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.’” John 8:12

          “For He said, “Surely they are My people, Children who will not lie.” So He became their Savior.” Isa 63:8

          On the one hand there is darkness from false teachings, on the other we have light and truth in Christ. How do we reckon with our heart, that there could be room for both to reside comfortably?

          I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. John 12:46

          How can we have both and be acceptable to God? Defending truth is defending Christ, whole-heartedly. Ps 119:34

          “The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light.” Romans 13:12

          “Examine me, O Lord, and prove me; Try my mind and my heart. For Your lovingkindness is before my eyes, And I have walked in Your truth. I have not sat with idolatrous mortals, Nor will I go in with hypocrites. I have hated the assembly of evildoers, And will not sit with the wicked.” Ps 26:2-5

          The light of Christ is missing in the organization; as a result, affliction exists which is evident by comments here and elsewhere, on how to deal with the darkness. It is the apparent analyzing of our own heart and where our faith lies. Jesus said, “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” Matt 11:28 So simple, yet so difficult for one to do who is part of an organization. Most likely disfellowshipping will be the result, then marked by all as “spiritually dead”. Matt 19:29; Mark 13:12; John 15:20; John 16:2; Rev 12:11

          In order to prove our loyalty to God and to truth, we must prove our loyalty to his Son, who IS truth. Is this not the case?

          “And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!” Luke 9:35

  • Satoshi Nakamoto

    The other night I dreamt that an obese unidentified man broke into my studio and I was attacked and eaten by my own chair. I looked up at my door, and it was wide open. The chair had escaped. Many bad vibes have fallen from the sky lately. It is a dangerous time in the forest right now. Be careful out there.

    • ewatchman

      My advice is to you is to be careful with the hallucinogins.

      • Satoshi Nakamoto

        LOL. Thanks, Robert. I have weird dreams all the time, though. The dreams themselves aren’t important because they’re not real. It’s just how our brain tells us about the things that are on our mind.

        The night of the dream I watched this video on the bohemian grove and fell asleep in the middle of it. That’s when I had all these weird demonic dreams.

        What I get from it is there are corrupted forces on the Internet in places we are comfortable exploring that can devour us in unexpected ways. Just try to remember not to leave any doors open. Metaphorically speaking, of course. We can hang ourselves with loose ends.

        • when studying jehovahs word and taking in an accurate knowledge we must be very very careful not to be part of this world. we must be careful about what we watch on tv or the kind of friends we might have because this is satans system and he will use all he can against us to block our path to Jehovah and his word he will try and confuse us just like he confuses so many with the trinity nonsense. it is most important that we study and live by scripture and train our minds to be clear and live by jehovahs word alone and every utterance out of jehovahs mouth. if we truly want to be free and live by jehovahs word we must train our conscious mind and keep it alive so that we may listen to it as to correct a path of sin and remember jehovahs word. we must clear up a way in our conscious mind and try to live righteously. we must keep on praying and build our personal relationship with our heavenly father. we must keep our path free of sin and the only real way to do this is to be no part of this world no matter what the cost and keep seeking Jehovah and jesus and the kingdom to come and be very mindful so that you your self do not become consumed and corrupted by Christendom.

          Revelation 18:4

          4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

          Matthew 6:33

          33 “Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.

        • when studying jehovahs word and taking in an accurate knowledge we must be very very careful not to be part of this world. we must be careful about what we watch on tv or the kind of friends we might have because this is satans system and he will use all he can against us to block our path to Jehovah and his word he will try and confuse us just like he confuses so many with the trinity nonsense. it is most important that we study and live by scripture and train our minds to be clear and live by jehovahs word alone and every utterance out of jehovahs mouth. if we truly want to be free and live by jehovahs word we must train our conscious mind and keep it alive so that we may listen to it as to correct a path of sin and remember jehovahs word. we must clear up a way in our conscious mind and try to live righteously. we must keep on praying and build our personal relationship with our heavenly father. we must keep our path free of sin and the only real way to do this is to be no part of this world no matter what the cost and keep seeking Jehovah and jesus and the kingdom to come and be very mindful so that you your self do not become consumed and corrupted by Christendom.

          Revelation 18:4

          4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

          Matthew 6:33

          33 “Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.

          what room will you have for jehovahs word in your heart and mind if you are living filled with the consomptions of this wicked system of things?

          • Satoshi Nakamoto

            I know exactly what you mean. My ancestors lived there many years ago during the Meiji revolution.

          • Holy Conolli

            Leonard. When you say do not become corrupted by Christendom does that include the WT religion? Can we become corrupted by the WT teachings? Personally I think we can and we do. Their teachings are forever changing and flip flopping almost every few months. The nonsense about 1914 and a overlapping generation is a corrupt teaching and so id the 7 member GB NOW being the true F&D slave.
            How about Now it is ok to take partial blood but not whole blood although partial blood comes from Whole blood? Are those teaching corrupt? How about the teachings on destroying all evidence about child molesters and protecting the WT org instead of the Victim of molestation? Are we corrupted by those teachings? How about shunning your own family if they just decide they cannot believe these teachings from the WT anymore and make a educated personal choice NOT to be a JW anymore? Do these teachings count about being corrupt?
            These seem a lot worse than what Christendom does. in fact I believe the WT is the same and a part of Christendom.

            • of course I do not agree with these things going on within the watchtower are these things corrupt? well if any one person knowing and understanding the truth would go against jehovahs word would be corrupt right? im sure there are some corrupted people within the watchtower leadership yes for sure I mean look at what is going on BUT lets not forget there are many many active faithful JWS that are not corrupt simply following every word that the GB says does that make these active JWS corrupt? no it simply means that they are being victimized by the leadership of the GB/ watchtower track society. you ask me what do I mean when I say Christendom well I mean false religious organizations in the world. you ask me if the corrupted leadership of the JWS would be considered Christendom well no they would not be considered to be Christendom because they have the true faith they are jehovahs people it would just mean that they are corrupted persons. and my view is no blood the scriptures are very clear on this matter not even blood fractions. now getting back to all these disturbing things taking place within the watchtower leadership yes there are many things clearly wrong but we must also remember that they are jehovahs people there basic bible doctrine is correct and we must mot give up and walk way from the truth because of the corrupted ones. remember even jesus was betrayed by judes. there are some really insightful articles written by MR Robert King it would seem that you would do well to give it a read
              https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-man-of-lawlessness/

              heres a very insightful video as well please listen to it so that it may serve to give you a better understanding.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Msuzp86M8

            • Holy Conolli

              Leonard. I will view the video from Robert . Thank you.You say the WT is not part of Christendom bc they have the truth? How can you say that after you admit the many false teachings they promote like 1914, 2nd coming of Christ, Blood fractions allowed, For many years organ transplants were forbidden and you would be DF’d and many people died for trying to be faithful to the teachings, Now all of a sudden since 1980 organ transplants ate OK? Even Vaccines were OUTLAWED in the WT some years ago and many people died or got sick bc of the ban. All of a sudden they changed. what about the people who were faithful tot he false teaching and died or got polio or sick. It just doesn’t add up that they are the TRUE religion as you say. Sure there are good people in the JW’s I know that but there are good people everywhere in and outside of religion itself. Outside of a handful of teachings that have basically stayed the same the WYT is not the same religion it was even 5 -10 years ago let alone 30-50 years ago. We can’t just say oh they are God’s people or they have the truth. If they did what they taught would have come true and it hasn’t.
              So if they are God’s people you cannot accept the nonsense that Jehovah chose them in 1919 out of all religions on the earth can you? If that is true where is the proof and don’t say bc they are preaching all over the world bc they are preaching the wrong thing about a kingdom that was supposedly established in 1914 w the 2nd coming of Christ.
              There are hundreds, yes thousands of things hey have taught and disregard any changed and no longer believe but still JW’s are told they MUST believe everything they teach as new light and you are ORDERED to accept it. So therefore if they are false then as you say they are part of Christendom bc they to are considered false religion by Jehovah. I just don’t see how any people who AWAKEN to the truth about the WT can still claim they have the truth or want to be a “secret” part of it still an hope the WT will one day wake up and change. With God of course all things are possible but from a human point of view I do not see this happening with the WT. I appreciate your thoughts. I am just being honest with you.

            • I thought I answered your questions by providing some very important information but you are asking me the same questions again? you said you would go over the information and give the video a view but before you have even done that you came right back at me with the same questions? I’m sorry but no one can answer any of your questions if you are firm in your belief so why ask any one so many questions if you are already convinced you have your answers? are you doing that because you your self are not sure what to believe and you are looking for comformation? if you are honestly looking for answers why not take advantage of all the insight freely provided by many and move along in an accurate knowledge with a glad heart stop acting like a senseless one and make sure of the more important things.

              Job 2:10

              10 But he said to her: “You are talking like one of the senseless women. Should we accept only what is good from the true God and not accept also what is bad?” In all of this, Job did not sin with his lips.

              Philippians 1:10

              10 that you may make sure of the more important things, so that you may be flawless and not stumbling others up to the day of Christ;

            • He is not looking for answers, just wants to poke and proud and waste your time, doesn’t he have some houses to sell.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              It’s more than probable that you are right but nonetheless as Jehovah’s people we are under obligation to give people the benefit of the doubt until we discern otherwise.

            • Holy Conolli

              Leonard. I did view the video first and I listened to the entire message. So here I am asking sincere questions and you start to judge and downgrade my sincerity and my desire for understanding this situation that to me seems inconsistent. Then you quote scriptures and refer to me as senseless? To me this sounds so much like the WT attacking another person if they do not agree with them. Like in the WT in 2013 they called those who leave the WT as “mentally diseased”. This is exactly the same spirit thy have when you come back like you did instead of conversing. It is just like the WT who just say well do as we say and just Obey bc we say so and this is the truth ok.! If that is the spirit in which you want to communicate than we can end this conversation and e do not need to continue on. On one hand you dog the WT and it’s leaders as false and on the other hand you still want to have a foot in the Organization. If that works for you fine it doesn’t work for me.

            • Jonah Peter Paul

              VERY WELL SAID! Time is valuable folks let us not let others waste it. We have much to do, preparations to make, the world is literally days away from a nuclear holocaust. Others sure do look like they have time to waste but we dont! We know what’s coming and we need to prepare. There is currently a warship that has landed in our shores. If people wouldn’t wake up then I don’t know if they ever will.

            • Jonah Peter Paul

              There are some people who can no longer be helped no matter how hard we try to explain. Their minds are simply closed. Most people who left the organization, accusing it as a false religion, because of its failed predictions and wrong teachings have forgotten that in the times of the Bible, God’s chosen people, Israel itself has done many wicked things every now and then. It seemed like a cycle really. They are Jehovah’s people but all of a sudden they decide to worship false gods and promote apostasy and do all sorts of evil things in the eyes of Jehovah. And then Jehovah will punish them and they will repent and the relationship would be fixed but all through out they were still Jehovah’s people. What religion in this world is perfect? The simple reason which most who now hate the organization fail to understand is that as Paul foretold, there is a MAN OF LAWLESSNESS sitting in the very temple of Jehovah promoting apostasy and wickedness. This man of lawlessness is by the operation of Satan and this man of lawlessness will promote a lie declaring that “the day of Jehovah is here” and that the presence has begun- the 1914 false doctrine. And it says in the next verses that “That is why God lets a deluding influence mislead them so that they may come to believe the lie…” In other words, the JW organization is infiltrated by a Judas like traitor who is used by Satan to promote apostasy and “the lie”. Almost every prophecy interpretation that the Society has given most especially as regards to the end are FALSE. And looking back even those kings that God appointed in the times of the Bible eventually failed and made terrible decisions and became evil. So the JWs teaching false 1914 doctrine, their being hypocrites and apostates are not really a new thing to God, it shouldn’t be too for us since we know many instances that this happened in the past, with God’s original people- the Israelites. So if the JWs arent the true religion because they teach something false and do wicked things in secret, WHO IS? WHAT IS THE PERFECT RELIGION??

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Mr. Holy Conolli If the shoe fits, where it…….
              Excerpt https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=excerpt
              (Questions #3 & #4) Has the Society ever taught anything scripturally incorrect? (See Prophecy Blunders of the Organization). Might the Society be teaching anything scripturally incorrect now?

              The questioner apparently spent a lot of time researching the Watchtower’s “prophecy blunders,” assuming that the knowledge of such will dissuade Jehovah’s Witnesses from pursuing their faith, which is obviously the intent.

              The inspired Psalmist wrote of those who are seeking to find a lie. That seems to describe the motive of many ex JW’s and others who go to great lengths to “expose” the Watchtower. But what does one have when finding the lie they seek? A lie. That is all. Conversely, ought we all not be seekers of truth, rather than seekers of lies?

              The truth is, the commonality of the organization’s “prophecy plunders” is their inseparable attachment to 1914 and the subsequent proclamation that the presence is Christ has begun and the day of Jehovah is here.

              Amazingly, this is exactly what Paul forewarned at II Thessalonians the 2nd chapter, where he wrote: “However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.”

              Speaking to those who expect to be gathered to Christ in Heaven and who would be on earth when Jesus finally arrives and whose manifestation will ultimately destroy the man of lawlessness, Paul warned against being taken in by authoritative announcements that the presence has already begun and the day of Jehovah is here. It is apparent that the seemingly inspired statements and proclamations emanate from the man of perfidy and are backed by Satan himself with every powerful work, deceptive signs and wonders.

              It is undeniable, which the questioner’s research unintentionally, graphically verifies, that the very thing Paul foretold – namely, inspired statements, spoken messages and written letters announcing the day of Jehovah is here – are interwoven, embedded into the core doctrine of the Watchtower Society. And Jehovah’s Witnesses, unfortunately, have been shaken from their reason in various ways.

              However, what is more disconcerting, the Lord Jesus himself sternly forewarned that during his actual presence there will be many false prophets and false Christ’s, and those claiming the Christ is here, in the inner chambers, and there, in the wilderness. Jesus said the deception will be so convincing that if it were possible even the chosen ones would be deceived by the delusion. Obviously, the faux parousia comes immediately before the actual presence of Christ.

              Reasoning on the matter further, the chosen ones of God are unified in one body, one organization prior to the second coming. However, the man of lawlessness is permitted to infiltrate and take control of that organization concurrent with the commencement of the conclusion, so that he sits down in the temple of God, showing himself to be a god. This is why Jesus indicated that the deception would be so authentic that if possible even the chosen ones would be fooled. The Judas-like man of lawlessness is in their very midst, albeit presently unrecognized.

              At the present time Jehovah’s Witnesses have no inkling of the deception that has been set in operation as a potential trap. And certainly exJW’s have absolutely no clue either. Yet, when the world is turned upside down, then the issue will come to the fore and Jehovah’s judgments will be accomplished.

              Man of Lawlessness

            • Holy Conolli

              Bklyn. I disagree with the point that the intent of people who research the Blunders of the Wt are trying to dissuade the JW’s. I think anyone who belongs to any religion has the right and obligation to test their own religion or faith to see if tit is true just as the WT always taught JW’s to do. They the WT want us to examine others religions and condemn them and conclude they are Pagan or false and leave them and become JW’s. However they do not use the same rule or guidelines for themselves. When someone does that and if they determine from EXMAINATION that what they have been taught as truth is not truth and leave or Speak out about it they will be DF’s or shunned or both.They are very hypocritical. That is why MOST people become JW’s bc they want to know the truth about God and the bible and they are taught that they have found it but you are not allowed or encouraged to examine the religion of the JW’s especially if you ever become one.

            • Song of Hannah

              The enemies of the Israelites could definitely point to the Jews and say the same thing. For instance, the Pharisees & Sadducees had many false teachings (Matt 15:1-9, Acts 23:8). Just because they didn’t make it into the Bible doesn’t mean Israel wasn’t rife with false teachings. Yet if anyone wanted to worship God during that time period, they had to attach themselves to Israel. Clearly though, those who loved Jehovah were drawn to Israel, despite all its iniquities.

              Yes, this is a paradox. And I am sure many had trouble dealing with it back then, just as they do today.

            • Holy Conolli

              Hannah. So you are saying ANYONE today who wants to worship God HAS to attach themselves to the WT? That just does not make sense. Also it is not scriptural. The Bible clearly says, No one comes to the Father except through me referring to Jesus not any WT org or other religion. That is a JW thought and teaching to try to align everyone with the WT. they have brainwashed the JW’s into believing the same thing and have placed themselves even higher than Christ himself by saying that to worship Jehovah you need to come through e WT and THEN you can have a relationship with Jesus and Jehovah. Just not scriptural and it is an evil way to control people.

            • e.v.g

              You are understanding wrong is not about the watchtower is about the message of the good news and the group that comprise.

            • Holy Conolli

              EVG. I disagree. If you align yourself with the wt to me that means you are accepting them as the Spokesperson for God. Also the GOOD news as presented by who? the God news of the 1914 Kingdom is obviously way incorrect so why would we still connect ourselves with this erroneous teaching. In Reality it is not good news it is bad news and incorrect news. I cannot in m y heart do that. The WT is either TRUE or alse. Robert King is either true or false right?
              So if you do not believe what the WT teaches on these Subjects are you still attending KH meetings and do you go in Field service etc? If not where do you attend and who do you spiritually associate with? I ask out of sincerity not to debate.

            • e.v.g

              When I began to meet with Jehovah’s Witnesses, I had to achieve certain requirements to be baptized , but apparently I have to keep pleasing the elders to belong to the congregation or even achieve a privilege, do you think this is really sincere ? it would not be easier to leave everything and go on my own ? apparently I ‘m being judged by men, they probably believe that I support the false teaching about 1914 but it is not so, the governing body has its own mistakes as well as the elderly and like myself, at some point all of us will be judged , so, what can I do now to please God? because I ‘m really thinking , which is what I have to do to please God, I have to find the right motive, is a challenge for me, I do not want to judge others, they have their own judge, but probably helping others is a requirement and a good start to please God.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              But it is scriptural in respect to the basic teachings of
              Jesus. please take note of what Jesus instructed us to do.
              Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying:
              2 “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.
              Isn’t that what the watchtower has been doing today ?
              3 Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe,
              do not do according to their deeds for they say but they do not practice what they say. Matthew 23:1-7 .
              Verse 3 clearly shows that Jehovah is using the Pharisees as a channel ,or why else would Jesus say we should observe them? But also at the same time Jesus told us not to do as they do according to their deeds,for they say but they do not practice what they say.
              Granted the watchtower prophecies are no doubt erroneous to say the least but so was Pharisees manmade traditions.
              but nonetheless they still taught / teach the basic truth which none of the other religions even come close to, this itself is evidence that the watchtower is Jehovah’s channel just like the Pharisees of old.

            • Holy Conolli

              Bklyn. So we should do what the WT tells us to do? For example to shun anyone who leaves the org even parents and children? We should encourage our children to get baptized as young children to make a life long commitment to an Organization at an age of 9-12 years old? We should have to report FS time on a piece of paper every month? We should accept the 7 men on the GB as the true F&D slave? We should accept thee teaching that Jesus is only the mediator for the $144000 and not all mankind? I am only touching on a few things they tell us or teach us and there are dozens of Whacko things they tell us to do. I mean they just changed their entire type and anti type teachings that they taught for decades now all of a sudden it is not true anymore?
              As far as the basic teachings go as you say there are others that teach the same thing and smaller groups and still many IBSA that teach the exact teachings of the Wt with regard to trinity, Resurrection, Soul, Hell fire, condition of the dead etc. In Actuality the Wt did not discover these teachings but got them from other religions such as Adventists, Miller rites and others. Russell just put them together as doctrine.
              The fact that he main teaching of the Kingdom and 2nd coming o Christ is so off base for85years in my opinion is enough to say they missed the entire teaching of the scriptures on one of the most important teachings of he bible. Therefore not directed by God but just another religion created by man.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              To some degree or another I think your full of baloney and just trolling however I will indulge your nonsense one last time and give you an answer but of course you really don’t care about what I’m saying or what anybody is saying for that matter because if you did you would have gotten the sense of it and would have been more curious as well as inquisitive to learn what the truth really is, instead of trying to get to the truth of the matter that has been discussed you continue to try and build a foundation of dissuasion rather than understanding and that my friend is exactly how Satan the devil works, it seems to me you’re miserable and want to take as many down with you as possible you know the old saying, misery loves company.

              Now as for the first part of your dialog.
              Jesus said we should observe but do not do according to their deeds because their deeds were wicked but what they said to do is true ,in other words we should make sure of all things and not just take there word for it but make sure of all things as to it being scripturally based, Jesus never intended anybody to blindly follow in fact he always encouraged us to use our discernment based on what the bible said. However unfortunately many brothers and sisters are following manmade traditions / policies because they fail to make sure all things as Jesus instructed.

              As to the second part of the dialog.
              You’re right to a certain degree that Christendom on a whole do practice “some” of the basic teachings although they misconstrued them grossly however for the record please take note that none of these various religions use GOD’S personal name , in fact to my knowledge not only do they not used GOD’S personal name but they have removed his personal name from many of their bibles.

              now please keep in mind that the bible clearly said that Jehovah will call a people for his name And all who called on his name in true faith will be saved
              And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved;
              Joel 2:32.
              For that reason my people will know my name. Isaiah 52:6.
              if my people on whom my name has been called humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn away from their evil ways, then I will hear from the heavens and forgive their sin and heal their land
              2 Chronicles 7:14
              there is only one organization on earth who uses GOD;S personal name and of course we know them to be Jehovah’s witnesses.

            • BINGO,
              waste of time, Robert it time to block this holy bologna.

            • My advice to interested ones that are here at Robert’s site for the first time. Read the book, listen to the book on a device, read the commentaries, watch his videos. Robert has a banquet of food to take in and it could take a year to Digest, if your heart is pure & you pray to Jehovah for insight all of this will make sense and your eyes will be opened. What ever you do don’t sign in under a fake phony & false name and start making accusations at things you just don’t understand & waste people time.

            • Holy Conolli

              bklyn. Wow. Bc I have a different opinion and trying to understand what you are saying you say I am the same as Satan! That is extreme. Full of baloney and trolling? and that I show how he works. You might as well be the the WT yourself wither kind of attacks and especially as a JW as you claim you are when I was asking simple questions which by the way you never answered but just stared quoting scriptures and name calling. That is fine if that is the way you operate. I thought this was a discussion for people to express a view point on the organization and not to attack those that don’t quite see things the way you or a few others so. No problem we don’t need to have this discussion anymore and you can stay in your “Spiritual Paradise” with the rest of the JW’s who think they are 100% correct and everyone else on the planet is wrong.
              I can see that the apple doesn’t fall far from the horse. No need to respond since it is obvious you don’t allow room for another opinion.

            • ewatchman

              Satan merely asked questions too, “Is it really so that God has said…”

              Besides, if you really wanted answers to your questions, why wouldn’t you ask me? I am the author of all the material here. But you obviously are not seeking answers. You want to plant doubts in the minds of others. There are enough deceivers and con men in the world, we don’t need any here.

            • Holy Conolli

              BC I was in a conversation with another person that is why I did not ask you. People comment on here all the time and respond to others that is the nature of a 2 way conversation. You wee welcome e to comment on the topic as well as many others do. It wasn’t a closed conversation.There you go again judging me and saying I really do not want answers
              and insinuating and using the word con man. Those words are very judgmental ans hurtful but that is ok bc I guess that is what you do if people have honest questions
              and they are construed as a challenge to something someone feels or teaches which in my case were not.
              Accusing me of wanting to plant doubts. I came to this site with sincere questions as a
              former JW who has never been DF and technically still a JW. It seems anyone who asks questions and it seems this is more similar to the WT than I had thought. That I fine. No need to continue this conversation anymore. It just sound’s more and more like the position the WT takes on anyone that has a different opinion or asks to many questions. They don’t like it.Here I am trying to understand what you and your site and others who have your frame of mind ae saying and you guys don’t like it I guess. No problem, we can end the conversation.

            • ewatchman

              Like I pointed out, asking question can be innocent, or it can mask a hidden agenda. You have revealed yourself to have an agenda to persuade JW’s to leave their faith. So, obviously you are not being honest in presenting yourself as an innocent questioner.

            • Holy Conolli

              Robert. You are so wrong on your opinion of me but that is fine. You can do and believe whatever you want. As I read more and see the comments here from yourself and others to me it is more and more like the very WT org that you condemn. No problem. As I said we don’t need to continue this conversation.

            • ewatchman

              You’re right. No need to continue this. Bye.

            • Holy Conolli

              . I wasn’t going to comment anymore but after rereading your response I wanted to make 1 more comment. Here you say I am trying to persuade the JW’s to leave the faith? However you are the one that is DF’d and writing many negative things about the Org and their teachings etc. It seems you take and accept the teachings that you want to from the WT and throw the other ones away that you disagree with such as 1914 etc and all the things associated with it and then you say the WT will be judged by God soon and they are like the false prophets of biblical days etc. Then on your podcast you answer a question from a person about a bible study and you say yes go ahead and study with them but skip over the part about 1914 and that aspect? So here you are teaching people the WT is false and their teachings are false and you accuse me of trying to dissuade the JW’s in their faith. That is ludicrous bc that is exactly what you are doing .
              I cannot attend the Kingdom hall meetings and “pretend” to be a JW and listen to things I know are not true but go through the motions of being a JW but in my heart know that it isn’t true. To teach some basic bible truths that I believe from the WT and skip over other ones and tell a Bible study to ignore those but come to the Kingdom hall anyway etc just doesn’t make sense.
              I mean if you are part of a religion whatever it is you are in that religion bc you believe or accept the things they teach right? Why did you or me become JW’s at one time? BC we believed what we were taught at the time. When we woke up and realized the teachings and organization was corrupt and their teachings were not true we left. The same as we or others have done.
              I can’t see how you can have 1 foot in the org and 1 foot out. To me it just doesn’t make sense.
              although no doubt you are sincere and I don’t doubt that but there are many other similar groups on the internet saying the same thing as you but maybe with a slightly different twist.
              No need to reply just wanted to bring out this point.

            • ewatchman

              You demonstrate very clearly the greatest challenge Jehovah’s Witnesses are facing.

              You are like so many JW’s and xJW’s as well, who put your full faith and trust in the Watchtower. The typical JW hangs on every word uttered by the revered faithful slave. Your faith obviously revolved around the Watchtower. As an elder you were sent to the ministerial school. Every time you spoke in a meeting you were working off of some kind of outline or script handed to you by the WT. And on and on it goes. And like you say, it is not allowed that one pick and choose what is true and what is not.

              But being a Society Man has its perils. When one finds out that the WT is not exactly the gleaming city on the hill that you once imagined, then you became disillusioned. But the problem is not really with the WT. The defect is yours. Because in all of your slavish devotion to the WT you failed to build any faith in Jehovah and Christ. Your relationship with God is entirely dependent upon what the WT does or doesn’t do. And now that your idol has fallen off the shelf and lies broken on the floor, you have nothing to show for all of those years. What happened to Jehovah in all of this? You don’t have a clue, do you?

              And because of your previous indoctrination from the WT it is inconceivable to you that anyone outside the WT org, especially someone who is disfellowshipped, could have any insight into the deeper things that God may have purposely hidden from the men whom you used to follow.

              I pity you. I really do. But you don’t deserve the truth.

            • Jonah Peter Paul

              wow we loved this one! so so true. you definitely got to the bottom of his tantrums and pointed out what his problem is. I actually wanted to answer him back but I held back cause I figured that he didn’t want the truth and that no one should waste their time anymore trying to help him understand it cause he never will. This is a website primarily for those who are seekers of truth and those who love Jehovah enough to understand and accept His will, whatever it is. There is no point of pushing the truth to people who are not interested to know it. It’s either they want it or they don’t. After all in the end, it will be THEIR LOSS and not ours.

            • Holy Conolli

              Right, of course. Instead of being able to logically explain an idea or thought you resort to attacks and name calling. Just like the dozens or maybe hundreds of other splinter groups that broke away from the Wt and formed their own similar groups. If anyone has a different view or ask to have a real honest discussion or explanation they are attacked or condemned and called names. I tis the same song just a different singer.

            • ewatchman

              You are contradicting yourself. Originally your expressed your disapproval that I was encouraging JW’s to stick with the organization. Now, though, you claim I am running a splinter group that has broken away from the WT. You just don’t know which end goes up, do you?

              The truth is, many of the readers of the Watchman’s Post are active Jehovah’s Witnesses. Some are pioneers. Some are even anointed. Others who had been disfellowshipped or disassociated or inactive have related how they have gone back to the congregations because of what they have read or listened to on e-watchman. So, some people actually get the sense of it. Obviously, you don’t.

              As far as your wild accusations, I have not attacked you personally or resorted to name-calling. I have simply pointed out the undeniable fact that as a product of the Watchtower you simply do not have the spiritual wherewithal to discern the judgments of Jehovah.

            • Holy Conolli

              No you do attack and that is fine if that is your way of explanation.Just rwead what you right and your accusations. Attacks and name calling is all over the place. I just said I could not see how you publicly disagree with SO MUCH of the Wt and condemn it in many ways and yet say they have basic truths and if you want to go there go ahead etc. Just don’t believe the 1914 shanigans and other points or if you have a bible study skip over the 1914 stuff and other things. Meanwhile you say many have gone back to the KH by reading this site. If that is the case then maybe you should go back also .
              Just skip over what you don’t want to believe. OK have a good day.

            • ewatchman

              You claim that my merely pointing that you cannot accept what I write here is because of your years of WT indoctrination is an attack. Interesting.

            • Holy Conolli

              No it wasn’t that Robert. I needed and asked for more explanation and I asked leading questions and then I was accused of having Not deserving of the truth, no faith,Being a Society man, Not thinking for myself, Not having the spiritual wherewithal to discern the judgements of Jehovah Putting my trust in the WT, being a typical JW,And I don’t DESERVE the truth? Those are just a few of the name calling you expressed in your previous email. Who deserves anything Robert? Dos any Human DESERVE anything
              from Jehovah. Those are some Nasty words you like to use.I don’t think I am the only person who has a hard time trying to understand your position. You have an opinion and that is fine but if others do not see it your way or try to understand the very UNUSUAL viewpoint you have between faith and 1/2 way into being a JW and 1/2 way out and accepting some but not all of the WT teachings and still claiming to be a JW is quite different. At least this is how I am understanding your information as I read more of what you say.

            • ewatchman

              You passed yourself off as an ex-JW and and a former elder, as if having been an elder makes you some kind of authority on matters of faith. But in so doing you must accept the baggage that comes with having been indoctrinated as an elder. Whether you accept it or not, I insist that you carry your own WT luggage.

            • Holy Conolli

              Yes, I was an Elder so what does that mean. I gave an example in our discussion that is all. That means no more than you claiming to have some interior insight and understanding on the scriptures that others do not have.
              Of course there is baggage/luggage in being connected to the WT for so many years. Look at all the damage the wt has done and continues to do to others .Look what it did to you. You have more WT baggage than most people who were ever affiliated. Your experience with the WT over the years caused you to start your own website and have your own religious view close to the WT teachings but a different spin. We are all effected by our experiences. I only stared reading your info lately and I can see how it effects you in all your writings and thoughts.

            • Jonah Peter Paul

              No, LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO YOU! You come here all upset and hateful and doubtful of everyone, not just the WT. While Robert here has been able to help many abused victims, stumbled Witnesses, doubting people understand God’s will and judgements and keep their faith in God and most importantly not hold on to hate by continuously hammering down the fact that Jehovah God and his son Jesus Christ will set matters straight. How about you, what significant thing have you done? What noble cause have you pursued and contributed to your fellow Christians (if you still consider yourself one). You compare yourself to Robert? A person who dedicated a decade and a half of his life revealing God’s judgements, bandaging the endured, encouraging the weak and ignored among God’s people all the while receiving criticisms, threats and hateful comments. You compare yourself to him? As far as we are concerned the only thing you caused is waste our time, criticize him and try to paint not only Robert but all of us here in a bad light. Next time you try to compare yourself to someone make sure you pick someone appropriate, someone who is like you. Even my pre-school daughter can understand clearly how the Watchtower is still God’s people teaching the correct basic bible truths but there is one lie that they teach and that is because the man of lawlessness spawned that lie, that Jesus came in 1914. HOW HARD IS THAT? HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? No it is not that you don’t understand, it’s just that you came here with the motive to point your fingers on the explanations found here in this website. Sorry but people here already know what they believe in. If you want to pursue building a new religion of yours or your army of bitter x-witnesses go fish for people on another website.

            • Holy Conolli

              John Peter Paul. 1st if all you have it all wrong. I never compared myself to Robert nor would I. OH yes, I am sure your pre schooler can make that mental decision that the WT is still God’s people? a 3 year old or 4 year old? Please. I am sure you did not mean that. I know what you are saying and I am sorry you are so upset. I am just trying to understand your guys points of view that is all and bc I cannot at the moment see it you get all pushed out of shape. Yes, I still consider myself a Christian and I know from he Bible that one day all will be well but that does not mean the WT has the truth that is all I am saying. You say they have the basic truths? Well, I think there is a lot more to true faith than just knowing what the souls, condition of the dead, and the that the Trinity is not true.
              Also there are tons of other issues besides the 1914 teaching and everything that is connected to it. I won’t go into it but you know it and I know it.Almost every few months the WT changes their teaching on something. To answer your question n what have I done for God’s people? Well, I did sponsor some Syrian Refugees that was a JW and I also Sponsored an entire family of 5 refugees from another country when they were being persecuted by the government and they lived with me for many , many months until they could reestablish themselves. I was not even working full time at that time and I never asked or received a dime for it nor did I want any $$. Eventually the grandfather of the family did something very terrible to my family and I immediately made them leave my house. I also studied with about 10 people that became baptized JW’s. I know that doesn’t mean anything in itself but I did answer your question.
              Can I ask you question? Do you still go door-door and teach the public what the WT says? If you do, do you feel comfortable doing that? What do you do if the issue of 1914 comes up and the things connected with it?
              I am not debating with you I am wanting to know how you deal with it.
              I am sorry if you were upset at my previous questions and issues. I did not mean to
              weaken your personal faith.

            • Jonah Peter Paul

              What Paul said is very true isn’t it? “So, then, have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?” Galatians 4:16 We love this guy you know. Everyone tried to help him here in a very nice and sincere way but he is just so wild isn’t he? It turns out that the moment you engage in a conversation with him it’s like you are stuck in a quicksand because no matter how reasonable one’s explanations are, he wouldn’t accept it and he will even try to twist things and try to paint other people in a bad light and it just never ends. It seems he has so much time to waste. He sounds so similar with those who are in most ex-JWs apostate groups. It’s actually frightening to answer him back, you might be accused of murder the next time around. LOL

            • Sam

              bravo

      • Rose Castro

        Lol! Sorry, this is too funny. I was sad and now I’m laughing 😀

    • no more cartoons for you buddy.

      • D34D 4L!3N

        lol silly

  • Song of Hannah

    Excellent podcast! Esp appreciated your words about faith and stumbling. It’s so true, it’s the attachment to Jehovah that keeps us bonded to him, no matter what others may do or not do.

  • Rose Castro

    Most people in this world are that wicked, no doubt about it; I experience it just about every day…Great podcast!

  • Danny

    What happened to the 40 years since 1975 prophecy? Did the end yet come, but perhaps in a spiritual sence ?

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      Oh Danny mi amigo hola! Where have you been? Why’d you take so long? We missed you! We were just in fact talking about you recently.. I can’t wait to tell you that the US and UK was nearly nuked a week ago. I am so glad you decided to pop up and mock Robert again so that I could deliver the happy news to you. You know I don’t like seeing you see frustrated… I pray very often that the war would begin so that you could be happy. Here is the link of the EMERGENCY BROADCASTS that was SENT TO DIFFERENT BROADCASTERS, TV AND RADIO STATIONS IN THE US and UK. Here I provided you with the link cause I know very well how extremely LAZY you are to even just do little clicks on your computer to read the news:

      http://yournewswire.com/us-and-uk-issue-nuclear-attack-messages-to-broadcasters/

      there is a link of the actual radio program by radio host Hal Turner explaining the gravity of the situation and HOW WE ARE ONLY DAYS AWAY FROM A NUCLEAR WAR. Please please Danny POR FAVOR AMIGO read the article and listen to the program so that you will never have to go back here and waste your time mocking Robert instead of stockpiling supplies and asking forgiveness from God so that at least he may at least let you have an easier death lol (i do not get why you are so excited for extinction) attached a picture too that a fellow reader shared on her fb account, you know so you could get the big picture just in case common sense hasn’t kicked in still after you have read the news article. I thought if the proof was visual maybe you’ll finally understand the situation. AND DON’T WORRY ABOUT IT, YOU ARE VERY WELCOME!!! 🙂

  • Jonah Peter Paul

    Listened to the whole podcast around 3 times now. But will listen to it again as we are very entertained and we understand things better as we listen to it. Specifically LOVED your answer on the questionnaire’s question #4 we had a good laugh while listening to you answer.Your sense of humor adds up a lot of color to your podcast and makes it so much enjoyable. It must be somewhat uneasy to answer that question given that if you told the person asking to simply teach and tell the truth, well of course the student might get confused or even stumbled and the person conducting the study might be reported and disfellowshipped for apostasy. But well I guess I cannot stomach the fact that we are going to have to let our Bible students be lead to believe that Jesus already came and that things won’t be that bad. Given the situation we are in, I am thankful that it was easier to teach the whole truth although it is quite a challenge how to explain to people “that we are the true religion but we are teaching something false”- that could be hard to grasp for newbie bible studies who aren’t that spiritually mature yet.

    Next is you mentioned how those who don’t really have faith in Jehovah walk away the moment they hear something wrong about the organization or for other shallow/invalid reasons. We totally agree with that statement of yours. We have met so many former, inactive, abused Witnesses that decided to leave, hate, and despise not just the organization but Jehovah God as well for the wrong things that are done by MEN. Most of them simply try to justify their decision to go out, be free, have fun and do all the things that they were prohibited to do as Witnesses. Because if they were really hurt or stumbled, they could have tried to at least find answers to their questions like we did and look where we are right now… Even when the truth knocks on their doors, (when we promote your website and try to explain what is happening in the org now) they outrightly refuse and even accuse us of selfish ulterior motives.

    That verse we learned from you, Zechariah 13:7 wherein those who are “insignificant” within his people will be cut off. When I remember that verse what comes to mind are those youth who takes selfies non-stop with the carts, who boasts of living the “best life ever” jworg slogan, who is the first to attend the parties, who are so easy to point a finger on others because of their ignorance, those who very very often mentions the name Jehovah while not even understanding what the name means or without even believing that he even exists, those who are so fast to judge others while “secretly doing immoral things”, those who simply attend meetings and conventions simply just to have a so called “social life” and so called friends and be able to stand on stage and feel like they are someone. And with all the weird activities and gatherings in the congregations right now, (Caleb and Sophia parties, Bible Costume Parties and Contests, the revival of the Choir, other parties that i don’t even know what to call etc) the organization might be successful in their desperate efforts to create a marketing strategy that will make the organization seem fun, cool and appealing to the youth but by doing so they are also calling more nuisance and insignificant false servants of Jehovah because these people were not trained to understand WHAT BEING A TRUE JW REALLY MEAN and that is also the reason that many of them are stumbled the moment something not very pleasant happens to them either now or in the future. That is what went on our minds when we heard what you said. Most people want to have a religion, they want to find a group that they could belong to but they really don’t have a relationship with Jehovah. To them Jehovah is nothing more than a name- but they will very soon learn how wrong they are when the world war begins and four horsemen are released to the world.

    • Rose Alves

      Thanks Sister Katrina. I enjoyed your comment. Your comments are always very uplifting

  • I don’t know why you guys try to have a conversation with naysayers, the separation has begun. You have seekers and you have destroyers. Hopefully Robert will start blocking people who don’t get it & never will.

    • Rose Castro

      Well said! We do not need any of that here. There are enough sites out there to spread hate and negativiity.

      • D34D 4L!3N

        amen

    • D34D 4L!3N

      my thoughts too

  • Nip It in the Bud

    I can appreciate your comment Joseph….. I’ve only recently found Robert King’s site within the past month. I too love Jehovah and want to please & serve him but am not sure how to go about it in light of the things I’ve learned about WTS recently. Admittedly, I have not lived a pure life in my younger years but have put those things behind me. I’m still reeling over these things to be honest with you. Jehovah’s love & approval is all I am looking for and how to go about finding & keeping this love & approval.

    • Listen to Daily Commentary Nov 2, 20015 by e-watchman #np on #SoundCloud
      https://soundcloud.com/e-watchman/daily-commentary-nov-2-20015

    • Wow, I can relate to your feedback. 10 years ago I Could have wrote this same thought word for word. You have a long road ahead but you will get there. Only advice I can give is EVERYDAY pray for guidance and direction on your search for the hidden treasures of truth. May Jehovah bless you efforts !

    • Beverly kenyon

      Well you’re in the right place at this site. We all have a history and scars from living in this world. You can find real answers from the bible here. Answers that make sense and are truthful. Pray to Jehovah to help you and ask forgiveness of sins past and present. He knows your heart and if you’re sincere. Talk to him and continue being educated here on this site.

    • D34D 4L!3N

      Nip, keep coming here and watch Roberts youtube videos. sense you are new; good advice is although you will be excited of this good news, be very very cautious telling others you may know at a kingdom hall because you WILL be scorned, no doubt about it. just a heads up, cause you think our own brothers and sisters would accept the truth but sadly you will be in shock about their reaction when you explain the truth & error to them. im excited to see you here brother!

    • Listen to Commentary- April 22, 2016 by e-watchman #np on #SoundCloud
      https://soundcloud.com/e-watchman/commentary-april-22-2016

  • Let me give it to everybody in a illustration like Jesus would do. Roberts banquet of food here is like an all you can eat buffet. We come in we gather it up and take it to our table , say a prayer and enjoy. But then you have people come in here , get up to banquet and start complaining before they even sit down and try it. They complain that the roast beef has a bad date and that a customer called them a bad name as they were heading in. The Chef has worked tirelessly on preparing this bounty of delicacies. Mixing some new sweep peas with some old sweet peas. Adding new dishes and taking away old dishes, making sure all the dates are good and nothing is spoiled. My advice to interested ones that are here at Robert’s table for the first time. Read the cook book, listen to the book on a device, read the commentaries, watch his videos. And by all means cross check his recipes with the Master Chef “ the Bible.” Robert has a banquet of food to take in and it could take a year to Digest, if your heart is pure & you pray to Jehovah for insight all of this will make sense and your eyes will be opened. And by all means direct all your ” sincere ” questions to Mr. King “the Chef“. What ever you do don’t come in under a fake phony & false name and start making accusations at things you just don’t understand & waste peoples time, because we are going to assume your at the Wrong Buffet !

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      but the best part is, it’s actually FREE so if you don’t like the food then by all means just get out of the restaurant and don’t even complain cause no one forced you to enter in the first place right? It was your choice and you didn’t even have to pay anything for it anyway. OR MAKE YOUR OWN RESTAURANT, COOK YOUR OWN FOOD if you don’t like what the other restaurant has served.

      • Yeah, we are all to familiar with these types of customers. They bring cameras in and try to have a confrontation. Or catch you out in public giving out free samples and try to stumble you up on the recipe.

    • D34D 4L!3N

      im laughing before i could finish reading lol amen 🙂

  • T L C

    Hello All!!!
    So happy to be in your presence and to have found a safe haven for like minds:-) Let me tell you a little about myself: I was raised a JW, baptized at the tender age of 9. By age 22 I became inactive for various reasons that I won’t get into. Needless to say, for the past 16 years I have been lost spiritually. I kept thinking that I would move on and find something “meaningful” to do with my life since I could NEVER
    see myself going back to the organization.

    I prayed to Jehovah constantly but some nagging feeling in the back of my mind kept me from truly connecting to him or for moving on for that matter. I felt out of sorts because I believed all the teachings but I just couldn’t get past some of the stumbling blocks that I’d experienced. That is, until now!!! I came across one of Robert’s You Tube video’s while listening to an apostate rant and rave about the UN conspiracy with the WTS. I remember watching the ex-jw talk and all I heard was “Womp Womp Womp” because all he did was bash the society. I was so turned off by that because I really didn’t want to hear any negativity…I wanted answers! I needed to make sense of it. When I found Brother King’s YouTube video on the matter I immediately knew something was different about him. He is a faithful servant of Jehovah, a lover of truth, and still proclaiming Jehovah’s Kingdom while disfellowshipped. I could hardly believe what I was seeing!!!:-)

    Over the last month or so I’ve been listening to and reading everything Brother King has done as well as doing my own research into various matters. I am so pleased with what I am learning and that I’ve been able to make sense of some of the issues that exist in so called “spiritual paradise” that I have decided to go back! I want to be part of the 1% that perhaps Jehovah may use to help my fellow brothers and sisters through the horrific times to come!!! Thanks again to Brother King and to Jehovah our LORD and Savior for providing this place of refuge for us…..I will conclude my book now and I hope to interact with some of you in the near future..:-)

    • Song of Hannah

      We are absolutely thrilled that someone who worships our beautiful God in faith & loyalty found this site and appreciates it! It is the place where spiritual heartache is mended by the soothing balm of Jehovah’s word! Welcome dear Friend!

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      Welcome! We are so glad that you found this site. I definitely agree with what you said, most apostate websites, videos and materials only bash and criticize the organization without providing any solutions nor explanations about it. But here, all of those issues are addressed and answered accordingly. Jehovah indeed has lead here. If you seek Jehovah, indeed you will find Him!

      • T L C

        Thank you so much for the welcome 🙂

    • D34D 4L!3N

      “I want to be part of the 1% that perhaps Jehovah may use to help my fellow brothers and sisters through the horrific times to come!!!”

      wow ^_^ awesome!

      be careful brother. so happy for you

      • T L C

        🙂

    • patri

      Oh TLC you get it! YOU GET IT! I’m so HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY for YOU!
      You made me cry bc everything you express is my own experience!
      Where would we be if we hadn’t come across our faithful servant, I dread to think…so HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY for you…I’d like to dance but I’m sick in bed! Welcome my dear brother, you are so welcome!

      • T L C

        Thank you so much and I’m glad you can relate patri. I hope you feel better soon and BTW I am a sister: apparently had to change my profile picture for you all to see that:-) Take care of yourself

        • patri

          Ooops! Sorry my SISTER! ANOTHER SISTER!!!!
          I was just bemoaning to Hannah my sadness at the lack of sisters!
          Yes. As Joseph says, we all have a similar story to yours, we all can relate.
          Better take down your lovely profile picture if you’re making tracks back?

          • T L C

            It’s quite alright patri, yes another sister!!! Yeah I thought about not putting up a pic but then again I thought that if a JW was on this site then they’d be a bit more open? Perhaps but I guess when I start going I will play it by ear…

            • Song of Hannah

              Yes, best to be cautious. We are among wolves. Someone could “anonymously” share a copy of this page with your local congregation. So if you plan on going back, please drop the pic. ❤ ?

            • T L C

              Duly noted:-)

    • Welcome sister TLC , Big hug & two holy kisses on each cheek ! Your story sounds like most of us who are here. Looking forward to hearing more from you & praise Jah , you found the hidden treasures of truth !!!

      • T L C

        Thank you so much!!! I am thrilled

    • Rose Castro

      Welcome sister! I am here for exactly the same reasons as you. I too got tired of the attacks and insults of the ex-jws. I needed answers and I am pretty sure this is the place!

      • T L C

        Yes so glad to be here and I definitely agree that we are in the right place at the right time…

  • T L C

    Thank you all so much for the warm welcome and again so nice to be here…

  • The Watchtower is certainly aware of the fact that there is a growing number of disaffected Jehovah’s Witnesses. Many have become weak and discouraged. Some choose to disassociate themselves from the organization. Others have decided to “fade” — this tactic so that they may avoid a judicial inquiry and possible disfellowshipping and ostracism from their families.

    https://m.soundcloud.com/e-watchman/daily-commentary-sept-21

    • Bklyn Kevin

      It’s ironic that you had posted this today because after being wrongfully exiled for the last 20 years me and my family had received our first shepherding call from none other than the presiding overseer of our old congregation whom I personally know, he read several scriptures and then presented to me my own personal Brochure called
      ” return to Jehovah” and then went on to tell me the congregation wants us to come back but I told him I never left, and he said to me” you disassociated yourself, then I told him that’s most certainly not true and if it is true surely you would have a letter from me in your records saying that I would like to be disassociated from the congregation, he then said that’s true we don’t have a letter on record from you but nonetheless two brothers / witnesses claimed that’s what I said and then I told him / them this is all beeswax and they know it is .
      The truth of the matter is the two brothers who had made these accusation against me were very upset at me because I had revealed their alcoholism to several of the Elders in the congregation not to mention other things and please keep in mind not only did I bear witness to them being severely intoxicated on more than several occasions but also there was eight other witnesses but for some reason that was discounted and those gentlemen were not held accountable regardless of how many witnesses I had presented.
      after his introduction, I calmly ask him in view of my wrongly being excommunicated what did he intend to do about it? He quietly said there’s nothing he can do and told me I would have to be under probation for unspecified amount of time before I was reinstated, and he also made mention that there would be no apology on their part whether they were right or wrong because the incident occurred 20 years ago and one of the two witnesses had died and there was simply just nothing they can do.
      There’s much more to this story but I’m afraid I would have to write my own book.

      • I was moved to post this commentarie this morning after listening to it late last night. We all have similar stories, I have many and the one that stumbled me the most was the time I tried to expose the PO that I worked for as being a dishonest crook who was cheating his customers among other things. Needless to say that the congregation turned on me because they loved this 2 face man. A year later he fell from grace after having sex with a pioneer sister out on a Shepherding call, go figure.

      • patri

        I hope you opened the door with Robert’s book in your hand Kevin!
        Yes please, do write a book. A few have, and I’ve bought them. Each of our stories is a variation on the theme of injustices we bore, another thread in the rich tapestry of hierarchical dominance.
        No! That wasn’t a little porkie from the presiding overseer was it (New light on that title brother, he’s now known as co-ordinater, just another legal get out of that clause probably) See what you’re missing! He said that you disassociated yourself when two brothers actually snitched on you!
        Oh well, at least they’re thinking of you! ;). Hahaha Josephs post just came through, he makes me laugh, go figure he says…

        • Bklyn Kevin

          No I didn’t have his book in hand and I was totally caught off guard but nonetheless I gave them a fairly good witness using bible scriptures, I don’t suspect I will be seeing them again any time soon in fact by the time I was done with them they were speechless because they was not able to retort the scriptural evidence that I had presented to them.
          P.S. Enjoyed reading your comment, thanks for the new light. LOL’

          • go to memorial. maybe ther’ll be a follow-up on your part. you got them thinking im sure

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I have been praying to Jehovah asking for his guidance.
              Your advice is excellent and that’s exactly what I should do.
              you know I was going to go to another kingdom hall incognito like I have done In the past but perhaps I just might follow your advice and pay a visit to my old congregation this year for the memorial.
              ty.

            • patri

              Godspeed Kevin and don’t forget to count your time and put in your report…

      • Remember Kevin if the Governing Body and their helpers were really concerned about searching for and finding Jehovah’s lost sheep and bandaging their spiritual wounds, we would expect them to address the real reasons that many are leaving. As it stands, the leadership continue to feed themselves, publishing information that only pretends to show concern, while continuing to glorify the organization.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          @ Joseph “pow”…..

      • Song of Hannah

        Kevin, if you ever feel like sharing, would really appreciate hearing the story of your spiritual journey, maybe in Robert’s guestbook or something? I’m thinking of posting my own story there… although my husband & I are still in the org so I can’t go into as much detail as I would really like…. :-/

        • Bklyn Kevin

          My story is old and laborious however I will tell you this, after my wrongful excommunication I fell on my face for the next 10 years bewildered and prayed to Jehovah continuously for understanding because deep in my heart I truly knew that Jehovah’s witnesses my brothers and sisters are his people and so I went on with everyday life as usual but continuously searched for answers in the bible and started to get somewhat of a better understanding and one day I was doing research and lo and behold I came across Robert king’s web site and immediately realized Jehovah had finally answered my prayers.

          • Brooklyn Kevin,
            Jehovah leads the humble ,broken ,lovers & searchers of truth to his refreshing waters of hidden treasures. You’re chosen for a future assignment my brother!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I’m just happy as well as forever grateful that Jehovah showed me mercy and allowed me to not only understand the big picture but also allowed me to participate in the one thing I truly love, which is the sharing of the good news concerning Jehovah’s kingdom .

        • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

          Yes. I’d like to hear your journey. I really appreciate your comments and scriptural application. I’m also in the org, but I’m less and less fearful of them. I’m sooooo thankful we can have freeness of speech on this forum. Helps me balance the frustration I feel during wt studies when it’s like a parrot contest.

  • i wanted to post a comment for Holy Conolli and everyone else here to read of course.
    i had mentioned the scripture about putting up with each other. that is extremely difficult. for me it has been one of the top among other things, hardest things in my life. and i aint kidden ya. im sure since thats been the case for me, it must be for others and we have to keep in mind also another scripture that Jehovah had writen for us saying “as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men” – Romens 12:18

    my heart, gets so moved when i read all of you here, you dont even know, but you do. how much more must our fathers heart to see you all gathering here to converse with one another for the reason of our love for him.

    i wish i had more to say. i hope Jehovah takes care of you all.

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