Peace and Security Update #4

//Peace and Security Update #4

From the moment he took office in the first month of 2017 Donald Trump has been intent on achieving peace in the Middle East —specifically, a solution to the seemingly insolvable Palestinian-Israeli problem. To that end he deployed his orthodox Jewish son-in-law, Jared Kushner, as a special envoy.

Although most observers give Trump little chance of accomplishing anything, as the scriptures say, “the scene of the world is changing.”

Now that Russia has all but destroyed the Islamic extremists in Syria that had been deployed to overthrow the Assad government, a new dynamic has come into play. The nations of Turkey and Iran, which flank Syria, are sitting down with Russian leaders to map out a permanent peace. At the same time Israel and its supposed intractable Islamic Arab enemies are finding common cause in allying against the Shiite Muslim nation of Iran. This new alliance may make it possible to broker some sort of deal between the Palestinians and the Israelis and give President Trump boasting rights for accomplishing what has eluded every other American president for the past half century who have tried to bring about a peaceful resolution.

While the Palestine-Israel issue is hardly the only trouble-spot in the world, as illogical as it seems, it is always presented as if solving this longstanding problem would bring peace and security to all mankind. But the real dynamic moving the world is China’s ascendency and the One Belt-One Road initiative. And due to its strategic location situated at the junction of three continents, Syria is a key nation in China’s program to link Asia, Africa and Europe with a network of rail, high speed rail, pipelines and fiber optic connections. (EIR – What Really Happened in China?)

In Trump’s recent visit to China he made it clear he intends to work with both Russia and China to solve the various crisis imposed by two centuries of British geo-political machinations. Here is an excerpt of a statement made by the president of the United States after he visited with the leaders of Asia:

And we have laid out a pathway toward peace and security in our world, where sovereign nations can thrive, flourish and prosper side by side. This is our beautiful vision for the future. This is a future where this vision, this dream, is only possible if America is strong, proud and free. As long as we are true to ourselves, faithful to our founding and loyal to our citizens, then there is no task too great, no dream too large, no goal beyond our reach. My fellow citizens, America is back. And the future has never looked brighter.

It is true, if the major nations cooperate many of the problems and conflicts plaguing the world could be solved. Of course, as long as Satan is pulling the strings that will never happen. But the culmination of the Devil’s reign may be in sight.

Although the apostle Paul is not typically thought of as a prophet, he was privileged to reveal sacred secrets in connection with the return of Christ; specifically, Paul revealed in his letter to the Thessalonians that the dead in Christ will rise during the parousia, even while the remaining holy ones are in the flesh.

Furthermore, in harmony with what Jesus himself said as regards his coming as unexpectedly as a thief in the night, the inspired Christian prophet foretold that Jesus’ presence and the day of Jehovah would arrive like a thief in the night “whenever it is that they are saying, ‘Peace and security!’”

So it is with the utmost interest that I follow President Trump’s efforts to bring about what he stated in his own words: “peace and security in our world.”

Ironically, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no scriptural basis for understanding the significance of Paul’s prophecy. That is because the Watchtower exerts a deluding influence that places the beginning of the presence of Christ to the past. So, whenever they do proclaim to have accomplished “peace and security” the “sudden destruction” that immediately follows will serve as a wake-up call for all —signaling that the day of Christ has finally arrived.

Who is it upon whom the sudden destruction comes upon? It comes upon those who are saying “peace and security.” Since the American president is the foremost proponent of the peace initiative, we may expect America to experience the foretold “sudden destruction.” This is in harmony with the vision of Revelation that depicts the ruling head of Satan’s wild beast suffering a fatal wound. Also, the 30th chapter of Ezekiel envisions the fall of Egypt as taking during the day of Jehovah, which is what Paul said would be triggered whenever they are saying “peace and security.” Specifically, Ezekiel 30:1-4 states: “This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Wail, ‘Alas, the day is coming!’ For the day is near, yes, a day of Jehovah is near. It will be a day of clouds, an appointed time of nations. A sword will come against Egypt, and panic will overtake Ethiopia when the slain fall in Egypt; its wealth is taken and its foundations are torn down.”

The prophecy of Daniel harmonizes with Ezekiel, foretelling that the king of the north “will keep thrusting out his hand against the lands; and as regards the land of Egypt, she will not escape. And he will rule over the hidden treasures of gold and silver and over all the desirable things of Egypt. And the Libyans and the Ethiopians will be at his steps.”

The Watchtower realizes that “Egypt” in this portion of prophecy is symbolic of the king of the south. That is because the Egypt of the Ptolemies following the breakup of Alexander’s empire was the original king of the south. Significantly, the subjugation of the American king of the south takes place during the time of the end. That means Ezekiel’s prophecy regarding the destruction of Egypt takes place during the time of the end. The Libyans and Ethiopians likely symbolize America allies like Britain and France. (See Downfall of America

But, alas, the scripturally delineated time period known as “the time of the end” doesn’t have much relevance for Jehovah’s Witnesses either. That is because the Watchtower teaches that the time of the end has been ongoing since 1914 too.

So, the coming sudden destruction of the leading nations of the world, which will commence the time of the end, will present an opportunity for the sons of the light to come out from under the Watchtower’s powerful deluding influence and embark on the final phase of Christ’s work.

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  • Burt Reynolds

    To see the sons of light come out of the watchtower will be a joy indeed. Do these sons of light know who they are as yet? Would there not be more challenge at present to the watchtower if they did, or do you think that they are in some way restrained at this time? To be restrained would indicate that they hold some issue, intelligence, insight or position that the watchtower does not wish exposed? Is there any indications of this in the dam wall as yet?

    • Even according to the WT’s most recent revision there are good slaves and evil slaves within the same household. Still, I think that the whole lot are asleep at the wheel at the present moment.

      • do you think Jehovah is still making a decision of who?

        • Mick Hewitt

          Yes!….I’ve declined in favour of a villa in the cost a del sol. But there are few more places in 2nd class!

          • The Raven

            At this point I’d consider myself blessed if I could just climb on and hold on like a Bangladeshi on an over crowded train going through flood waters.

        • Mick Hewitt

          Forgive my flippancy Dr. I just couldn’t help myself…Truth is…..I think oh yes. They are to be judges of all mankind. It makes sense that there would be fair representation of kind over the generations….Interesting question Dr.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          In my opinion I believe It’s a work-in-progress until the Beast has its Sword Stroke.

          • Leonard k

            I agree.

          • The Raven

            I view it the same way for the chosen considering what Paul said about their test being lifelong and their having to know jehovah before that day. The eleventh hour workers.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes! …..but you said it yourself yesterday, that maybe the test was love and faith. The knowledge of Jehovah ……’ Who can know him…?’….is surely the cultivation of the spirit and not the detail of how the tribulation comes about. I agree that such knowledge is helpful to faith, but when it comes down to it, I cannot recall the process of half of it. But be that as it may, neither do a great deal of others set for salvation know about the process, such as all those honest hearted ones still left in. Maybe what we need is a handbook on the process but we all know, as Kevin pointed out, that we by no means have an unquestionable grasp of the matter. The bible says….’of all these things, the greatest is love..’ Otherwise, a firm knowledge of the process would be sufficient and that would allow in anyone with a good memory but no ‘love’! Come to think of it, Satan has an almost complete understanding of the process and meaning of the tribulation, bar the day when it is to start! That’s something to chew on!

            • The Raven

              This reply was in reference only to the chosen, not everyone. There are numerous descriptions of events concerning only them. If Jehovah didn’t want us to study deeper matters we would not have been given these scriptures and told to use discernment. Of course the bottom line is our condition of heart and faith, no doubt, Burt. Satan, the demons and the angels do not know all of Jehovah’s plans. There is a blindness at work for certain matters even among them. I believe that is Jehovah’s doing and it will figure into this when trib begins.

      • W stone

        Is this the wake up call ( the proclamation of peace and security) that the ten virgins hear in Jesus parable.

      • Mick Hewitt

        They must indeed be a wise/discreet slave, certainly counts me out. I’m captain panic on a good day. It’s encouraging that there is a count of good slaves. Robert I thought this was a bachelorette site for those of aspiring anointed. Now that I’ve calmed down and finally put my spliff out, things are getting clearer……Thanks Watchman.

        • Burt Reynolds

          I don’t know Mick, maybe we have been indiscreet now and then but we have all wised up as we have got older and become more discreet, so you could say that we are now quite faithful, reasonably discrete slaves. You have to view the glass as half full.

        • kakure Basho

          Lol hah

  • Christian Obadiah

    Brother King, how is it that Britain is represented, along with France, by the Libyans and Ethiopians in prophecy? I thought Britain was the King of the North.

    • We have to make a distinction between nation-states and empire. The empire is not a nation. It is a slime mold, a conglomeration of institutions that seeks to dominate, over-ride and destroy the sovereignty of individual nations. The neo-Roman empire happens to be headquartered in London and Britain has been dominated by the British Empire for a long time, but the empire is more than the nation of Britain. Brexit aside, the EU, which has stealthily gained control over the nations or Europe is itself an extension of the British Empire. It goes by other names, of course; globalism, the elite, the banker’s empire; whatever. It is the same empire.

      • Christian Obadiah

        Thank you for the explanation.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Hello Christian I found this podcast to be very helpful.
      Questions regarding the seven empires and the eighth king.
      https://e-watchman.com/podcast-episode-75/

      • Christian Obadiah

        Thank you for the reply and providing those useful links, Kevin.

  • Ms M
  • Island Breeze
    • Burt Reynolds

      Don’t whatever you do come to England then…..the trains are always late, if the come at all, and never have enough space in them.

      • Jamie Mac

        It gets worse at this time of the year when a stray leaf comes to rest on a railway line.

        • The Raven

          Lol!

  • kakure Basho

    This article makes me cringe….ughhh

    • Truth has the effect on some people. It’s okay.

      • kakure Basho

        You know Robert, it is quite ironic and on point that you would say that, yesterday. Because after you wrote that reply, I woke up to a startling truth that made me cringe even more than the things said in this article about donald trump. As a matter a fact it made me absolutely sick aND I hAvent said one word all day except, one four letter one starting with an F.

        • That is amazing that someone could have that sort of hysterical, psychosomatic reaction to Donald Trump. It seems to be a common phenomenon sweeping America, connected to the widespread outbreak of Russophobia mania. Thanks for sharing.

          • kakure Basho

            I’ll extend an olive branch here,
            Don’t assume anything about anyone. Cause if it was Hillary Clinton in the white house, but same message, I would be just as concerned and annoyed by the fact that so called anointed or non- anointed are attaching prophecies to that witch. But the fact that we have here a Saturday morning cartoon character of human being, who is also a satanic freak like the rest of them, being held up as a strong man for nationalism and for the benefit of America and is being connected to bible prophecy is almost enough to throw a halfway sane person into a psychosomatic scenario. Ypr not the only one on the Internet that is am anointed Ex JW doing this. And the fact that your observation of my point of view is only put together by some mainstream idea of left vs right rhetoric tells me that you haven’t put any unique solid info on this presidency on this site and you have fallen victim to the hoax that has been sitting in the background waiting to be identified by someone with a limited amount of flexibility in there views, and that is: ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTLETS HAVE SUBSIDIARIES THAT ARE COINED AS ALTERNATIVE MEDIA. SO MOST IF NOT ALL ARE OWNED BY FOX AND CNN. Also Lyndon Larouche is a conartist and has been sense the 70s. He HAD SOME good info before this election. But not any more.
            I have always admired your work and point of views. But this is just absolute Credulousness because you want the end to come quickly. We all do!!! Don’t become that which you worked so hard to expose.

            • Island Breeze

              It’s all so frustrating isn’t it. If I had a dollar every time someone promised P & S. I’d be rich! We’ve all grown weary for sure! YAWNING

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Breezy, that’s why it is so important to stay on the watch, because someone is going to say it sooner rather than later and then ……………………….

            • kakure Basho

              VERY frustrating

            • The Raven

              That’s what the devil’s objective is ; to wear us down until we’re sick and tired and fall asleep. I keep in mind that this will get to a n explosive point and then, disaster is avoided. It’s that shot out of the blue when we least expect it and from an as of yet unknown trigger that’s going to body slam us all. Then it gets real. I know you’re still watching these puppets and I know you know whats pulling their strings. But I hear ya man. 😎

            • You don’t make any sense. Seems like you are pumped full of fake news vitriol.

              But the fact is, Donald Trump is the president of the United States. It is reputed to be the most powerful position in the world. And apparently Trump is using his power to make deals and agreements with the intent of becoming the guy who makes the world more peaceful and secure. You are going to have to deal with reality at some point.

            • kakure Basho

              Wait wait WAIT….. is this even Robert King anymore or Am I speaking to an AI Bot here! did ya even read my reply….? Because you just reacted In a way that I just described that one would with a limited understanding of what’s going on behind the curtain in today’s events. The reality of the situation is that the presidency is PUT ON to be the most powerful
              Position in the world. EVERYONE participating on this website, that has ever looked into any basic information on conspiracy theory should know that the American presidency is a preselected, scripted, roll orchestrated by corporate entities, and Hidden hand global kabbalitsts. The evidence of that has been in the light for decades. And dude what gives you the understanding that i watch any news outlet? FAKE NEWS? really? That’s been Donalds only defense against any type of criticism thrown at him. Like Duh it’s fake! They’ve been faking the news around the world for decades. But this clown uses it as a sleight of hand Manuver. Now everyone repeats this to defend him. Satan is really working through his image. He is not making deals his handlers are. These so called world leaders that you see on tv everyday are PROPAGATED to run the show and to call the shots. Including the pope. Whats really running the show physically on this planet, they wouldn’t dare speak it, even under their breath.

            • Island Breeze
            • kakure Basho

              U ARE TOO MUCH HAHAHA

            • into the light

              The reality this system created for us surpasses the madness from David Lynch movies. I think that at present it’s impossible for us to know what’s going on behind the curtains but if we keep observing what the results of those dealings are on the world stage we can have a somewhat clear picture as to which point in timeline we’re currently in.

            • kakure Basho

              Good point! Definitely one way of vetting the bull. Also a good investigator never has a predetermined conclusion on to what he is gathering information on. He let’s the facts lead wherever they may go. Even if it is areas he’s not familiar with or to afraid to venture.

            • into the light

              I agree, but also think that reliance on Jehovah is more important in this case. What good is it to us to “know” how things will play out or what sequence of events is to take place if we don’t recognize the voice of our shepherd when he comes; if we fall for the false christ’s deception…

            • kakure Basho

              True. We’ve all made it this far, right? To this rallying point I mean. So Keep being reasonable and flexible and the voice shall continue to speak in a reconizable fashion.

            • into the light

              Learn from the fig tree, right? We can see that it’s about to bud. We were forewarned as to what constitutes the budding. I find it kinda pointless to analyze every brushstroke on the picture to find the meaning when we can conclude what’s going on upon looking at the big picture. By that I don’t mean we shouldn’t pay attention to what goes on in the political theatre but imo what we can see is what we are allowed to see. I feel that most of us humans are so blind that we will believe anything that has any semblance to supernatural… I think we are not able to grasp the level of deception that is about to take place in the future.

            • kakure Basho

              It’s probably already here….

            • All your conspiracy ranting aside, fake news clown show, whatever, the fact remains there is an American president who is talking about bringing about peace and security. That is all that matters as far as I am concerned.

            • into the light

              Since Satan wants to present himself as an angel of light and wants to establish a fake kingdom, is it reasonable to think that “peace and security” will be proclaimed after the GT? I’ve been thinking that he’d probably want us to believe that peace is brought thanks to his fake kingdom. And when people get comfortable with that fact and bow down to the beast that’s when the destruction comes. It’s kind of contradicting the scripture for us to wait and expect this proclamation at present. I mean what’s the point of saying “peace and security” when we know for a fact that there is no peace and security.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Because that is what the scripture says….’whenever……..they are saying peace and security.’ Also, the scriptures are not talking from our point of view are they, but in reference to believers. You are right in that we know there is no peace, but as you point out, the general public will believe it. That is the shock of it; the impact that the tribulation or aftermath is from Jehovah. It is Jehovah’s war, Jehovah’s day. And he is going to make sure everyone knows it. As a side point, if the word ‘whenever’ is a literal translation in meaning, the term can refer to a multiplicity of occasions. Thus they can say peace and security now, and it to signal one thing, and peace and security when the beast rises, both of which are false are they not?!

            • into the light

              Burt, is tribulation Jehovah’s day or is the battle of Armageddon Jehovah’s day? Or if we read other translations, Lord’s Day. There seems to be confusion about the two. Isn’t GT a man-made madness that’s kicked off by one of the heads being slain? At least that’s what I understood from discussions here. Jehovah’s day is described as day of gloom and thick clouds when mountains fall, whereas the scarlet beast comes out of abyss and imposes the global government during the GT. For example, if you read Daniel’s prophecy in chapters 8 and 11 it also describes these things happening during time of security and freedom of care. Moreover, if you check other bible translations, the wording of 1. Thessalonians 5:3 implies that people will feel that there is peace and security. So imo it might not be a mere proclamation that they will be saying, despite there not being peace and security, but there may actually be a time when it is the case. Also, as @kakurebasho:disqus mentioned, it might be in relation to Jehovah’s people who feel secure when destruction comes upon them, not the world in general. Bible mentions in Ezekiel 38:11 that Gog of Magog will come against those living in security. I don’t know I might be completely wrong but I think this subject merits more looking into.

            • Burt Reynolds

              You’re possibly right. I am not one who is detailed about subjects I am not schooled in. In my mind, the whole shooting match is Jehovah’s day….to him that a thousand ages is but an evening gone. All I am aware of is the scripture says that the part of the troubles will be preceded at some point, by agreement that peace and security will be attained. When that might be, before or after or during the tribulation, to my mind, is when it actually happens, it happens! I’m not going to predict. Either way the scriptures says that we know neither the day or hour, and so I don’t question it or seek to define it. Whether it is a saying of peace and security, or an atom bomb that comes first, we will know that the end has started…..unless the bomb falls on us. It may not be the end, or even the beginning of the end, but it will be the end of the beginning. In truth, I’m afraid that the fundamentals is all my brain retains!

            • into the light

              Well isn’t the whole point of the article that they are supposedly about to proclaim peace and security. This whole debate is supposed to put to rest the assumption that we understand what’s going on. That’s why I said previously that we should heed Jesus’ advice to learn from the fig tree and look at the big picture as opposed to analyzing every brushstroke to gain understanding.

            • kakure Basho

              Lol geesh dude you had me dying with the whole fake news clown show. Sounds like a satirical sketch comedy show about Donald Trump on comedy central. Very original. So Before I responded I thought I would check to see how many presidents have spoken about peace and security and all I did was YouTube them. I got all the way back to bush Sr. Bill Clinton saying peace but kind of used different words for security. And bush Jr and Obama both have said it in speeches in using those exact words. And I am certain henry Kissinger has used those exact words over the years so my question is…. why hasn’t instant destruction occurred by now? And is it a possibility that we should attach this prophecy elsewhere? Also can we really say this makes Trump special for touting these words that have been spoken years advance to his presidency?

            • into the light

              The scripture also uses the phrase “freedom from care” when addressing this matter. Daniel ch. 8 and ch 11 describe what happens. You might be onto something too, when you say “attach this prophecy elsewhere”. Can you elaborate?

            • kakure Basho

              Like maybe to those put in charge of God’s people I guess. Could be totally wrong though.

            • into the light

              So if I understand correctly, you challenge bro King’s position on this issue by not having your own or being unsure of it?

            • kakure Basho

              Well yeah….I mean I can only go off of what makes sense. Can anyone really say what is or will be before it happens? Whether it is true or not is always open for debate or To Be Determined at a later time. But I’m not offering any answer particularly. More like in that particular reply to big bro I was asking his thoughts on my 10 mins worth of info gathering. Hahaha…. And asking him to question his point of view on the whole peace and security thing. Idk I don’t spell to well. So take everything I say with a grain of salt. Lol

            • into the light

              ok fair enough ( 2nd time I say this to someone today lol).

            • kakure Basho

              Oh Dude that is the end all arguments, statement. If you want to avoid a argument or a debate that’s going to turn into a fight or just drain you of your patience , just utter those two words. A great comedian actually has made that into a joke. Lol Fair enough. That’s good stuff

            • into the light

              Lol. I know, but lately arguments here end up with someone being bounced off the site. And also people tend to argue their own opinions which I’m not here for. But I do agree with some points you make, namely that we can’t know what will be before it happens and we might be completely unprepared for what’s coming. Even apostles who have seen Jesus after his being resurrected and receiving holy spirit misunderstood some things like establishing of kingdom and such… and in the end why are we required to keep awake and have faith and endurance if everything is known…

            • kakure Basho

              Well here is the deal, I have been coming to this site for almost 8 yrs now. And I have noticed that Robert does pretty good job of vetting all the misguided. And I do honestly feel that unfortunately, some people are not informed enough to express their opinion. That’s just my take on it. BUT…. I have also seen bullying on his part. Removing comments and 86ing people that didn’t deserve the ridicule, or the silencing. They made good points and he didn’t agree so out the door they are sent. Seeing as this site has become a breath of fresh air for those annexed to the outside or wary from being inside of the organization, and a place of encouragement and insightful study for the hungry, you have people now cautious over what they can and cannot say. .by him doing this he is causing people to relive the watchtower experience to the point that they might being stumbled again . And that is just wack! If he bounced me, it wouldn’t matter. It would just keep me from commenting. So what. Even if I was banned from the website somehow, I wouldn’t be too bothered because I learned exactly what I needed, And through my experience with the information here I’ve learned who I really am. And most importantly my relationship with The Father is even more closer and special. But one day here soon I’m sure King is going to have to make some particular choices about this site and what the next move is for him.

            • Burt Reynolds

              As the bible says; the truth shall make you free. Clearly then, looking at what is said in these pages has helped you. Without wishing to create parallels, there are good examples in the bible of prophets having to stick with one particular message, to the exclusion of all else. Moses springs to mind….what do I know I’m a herder of sheep. Was it Ezekiel that complained that all others did was laugh at him and ridicule him? If someone makes a site and devotes it to his belief, then that one is not going to tolerate detractors. That is just common sense. There are plenty of parallels to that issue too in the bible. So it is nothing like the watchtower. They control and threaten. Here, one is welcome to stay and develop as you did, or welcome to leave with no repercussions. The other striking difference of course between here and the watchtower, is that here, only truth is discussed, and it is only understanding of it that is argued….it’s called critical thinking. I have not noted anyone being chucked out for anything other than wilful ignorance and which is quite different from just plain ordinary ignorance. If you went to someone’s home and behaved in that manner, then what would you expect? It is somewhat foolish to knock on someone’s door, ask to be fed, stay for free, pay for nothing, and then criticise him for the way he serves his food. Try doing that to a chef at a three star Michelin resturant. You’ll soon be shown the door. You have no argument. If you don’t like the manners of the chef, you clearly don’t understand the object of the site, and if you do not understand that, then clearly something is lacking, manners being the foremost. There are many sites to go to where one can say what they want on teachings and tear the throats out of others who do not agree with them with impunity. Maybe you would be happier there. It is faith and motive that are the drivers in this day, love, understanding, charity, seeking peace; unity within such. Are you expecting direct teaching from Jehovah? It seems to me that His standards are somewhat more exacting than anyone else’s here. Maybe you should heed that because ‘one day soon’….Jehovah is going to make some choices about this world and what the next move is for him as you suggest. I would look to the bible message and how it affects you personally, rather than gripe about who is trying to help others do the same from no motive other than kindness.

            • Beverly kenyon

              ‘Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!

              ‘For who can know the Lord’s thoughts? Who knows enough to give him advice?

              ‘And who has given him so much he needs to pay it back?

              For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is intended for his Glory. All Glory to him forever! Amen. Romans 11:34-36. NLT

              ‘So whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do it ALL for the GLORY of God’. 1Cor 10:31. NLT

            • The Raven

              Thank you Burt for your wonderful comments especially love, understanding, charity and seeking peace and unity within such. 😊

            • Beverly kenyon

              👏🏽👏🏽

            • Island Breeze

              It comes with a theme song….

              https://youtu.be/gNzQgjgHn-0
              (Sarcasm)……….

            • It is my prerogative to moderate this blog. Doesn’t matter if you or anyone else agrees. Frankly, I don’t need any of it. I allow comments as a favor to readers to express themselves, but it is always subject to my approval. And if I feel someone should be banned, that is my call. Most forums and sites that allow comments function the same way.

            • kakure Basho

              Yeah I agree with you . I just said I’ve seen some unfairness every now and then, and you should just be more cognizant of HOW you sift through people. But your steering the boat so your call.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Study of the scripture is not about determining exact instruction. It is about looking into events and signs given us by Jesus and determining how they apply to us, and then having faith. The whole thing is about having faith and discernment.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              And for sure Burt Jesus told us to keep on watch.

              Matthew 25:13“Keep on the watch, therefore, because you know neither the day nor the hour.
              “But pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with overeating and heavy drinking and anxieties of life, and suddenly that day be instantly upon you as a snare. For it will come upon all those dwelling on the face of the whole earth. Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that must occur and in standing before the Son of man.Luke 21:34-36.

            • kakure Basho

              I have faith that one day, those who speak foolishness will be silenced. And those who close their own ears, will have them open. I agree

            • Burt Reynolds

              Because is is a consensus of opinion, not just the voice of one man. ‘Whenever THEY… ‘

            • Burt Reynolds

              In short, it is not about who is in power in the slightest sense of the word. Who ever is in power is the one who will be drawn, as with hooks in the jaw, to Jehovah’s day. All of them are but puppets as to prophesy. Neither is anyone on this site some sort of foreseer of events, but an ‘explainer’, maybe. That is for us to decide, but it is the bible that gives us faith. Without being personal, you are looking at people and their point of view. That is in some part, inevitable because who else is there to point the way? However, we need to be looking at what is pointed at, and not who is doing the pointing. It matters not who is president, but what they do. No one is in control at the helm; they are all of them, being led to distruction. Is that not what the bible says? Until you, we, all of us allow the bible to speak, we will be going round in circles being angry at each other because we are panicked, ‘not knowing the way out’; trying to persuade others to believe as we do, so that we can feel safe in our own understanding. Well, that is not going to happen, is it? It’s up to you, but please don’t be angry here; listen, contribute, analyse and debate and decide for your self. ‘Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a manger fed bull and hatred therewith.’ Proverbs 15:17.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              well said Burt. Especially the point you brought out when you said “Until you, we, all of us allow the bible to speak, we will be going round in circles being angry at each other because we are panicked.

              And what will all that panic eventually leads to during the tribulations because of people’s ignorance and lack of proper fear of Jehovah? we well let the Bible answer that question.

              “But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name. It will result in your giving a witness. Therefore, resolve in your hearts not to rehearse beforehand how to make your defense, for I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute. Moreover, you will be handed over* even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death, and you will be hated by all people because of my name.Luke 21:12-17.Read more>https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/luke/21/#v42021016

            • Max

              beautifully said Burt!! It doesn’t really matter who is in power they all have the hooks in the jaw… prophecy will triumphs always. Love Proverbs 15:17 too

      • Isaac of Coimbatore

        It really effected me.

    • Jamie Mac

      It makes me realise I have to be on the watch

  • Nigel

    This is a great article. I guess we’ll have to wait & see what happens but the recent developments you’ve examined in light of scripture are most compelling. I really liked your simple explanation of how 1 Thes 5:3 fits within prophecy, too. Thank you brother King. Glory to God!

  • Leonard k

    looks like a very possible game over faster then we think the timing of all these things foretold ln prophecies is frightening! but still I look so forward to the END of this wicked system of things and the installment of Jehovah’s kingdom under Christ’s RULE!

  • Burt Reynolds

    Stephen Lett…..in Spanish ?! That is an osculatory achievement of his that I would very much like to behold! You should have warned us before posting that! I’m going to have dreams….

    • Sorry. Others have also requested I give some sort of advance warning before posting anything with Lett’s face. I will try to be more considerate in the future. lol

    • kakure Basho

      Lol that dude looks like something out of Clive Barker’s Hellraiser

  • Seeker forGod’sKingdom

    ********* They Are Saying “Peace and Security!” **********
    .
    Where is to happen/take place this event ? in the world , or within God’s people ?

    Jesus brought something new (from His and ours Father ) : the knowledge of the Father’s purpose and will :
    to HAVE worshipers “with spirit and with truth”

    a worshiper “with spirit” is that one who observe strictly the will of the Father in each action , because the Father is the Spirit

    Father has commanded us to obey His Son :”This is my beloved Son, Listen to Him !”

    And the Son said : “Your word is TRUTH ”

    Jesus knew Father’s clearly expressed “will” regarding the time and the frame of “end-time prophecies” ,
    as it were declared to Daniel ( cap 10 )
    14. “Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen
    — to your people
    — in the latter days,
    for the vision pertains to the days yet future.”

    So, it is very clear , Jesus conformed Himself to Father’s will , and everything he preached from old prophecies , He put it in relations with “God’s people” !

    His apostles followed Him in this way , because this means to “abide” or to “remain” in the Teaching of Christ ! …
    ….the only way to HAVE BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON !

    2 John
    9. Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God;
    the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.

    WHEN apostle Paul wrote the inspired words in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 , he surely knew Father’s will toward Jesus’ followers , and acted accordingly !

    SO , the cry “Peace and security” MUST HAVE ITS FULFILMENT within God’s people , toward the end of the “latter days”

    WHO are THEY who cry “peace and security” ?

    They are some who ” had been of us … but they were not really of us” !

    1 John 2
    19. They went out from us, but they were not really of us;
    for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us;
    but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.

    Who are “of us” the apostle John is speaking about here ?

    ..”of us” are the anointed brothers of Christ , the co-followers with apostle John , who all where “abiding” in the Teaching of Christ ! (2 John9 )

    … and those who “were not really of us” are those called “weeds” , workers of LAWLESSNESS , who “will secretly introduce destructive heresies” …

    2 Peter 2
    1. But false prophets also arose among the people (of God ), just as there will also be false teachers among you,
    who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them,
    bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

    SO , these ones who ” had been of us … but they were not really of us” CONSTITUTES themselves in the group called “FALSE PROPHET”

    LET us find what was prophesied regarding these “false prophets”

    Jeremiah 23
    16. Thus says the LORD of hosts,
    “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you
    They are leading you into futility;
    They speak a vision of their own imagination,
    Not from the mouth of the LORD.

    17. “They keep saying to those who despise Me,
    ‘The LORD has said, “you will have peace “‘; (the cry for : PEACE )
    And as for everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart,
    They say, ‘Calamity will not come upon you.’ ( the cry for SECURITY )

    DO we understand now what the cry “peace and security” IS ?

    This CRY come from these prophets whom JEHOVAH SENT NOT !

    They (the Gov.Body ) are desperately TRYING TO ASSURE those believing THE LIE (despising Jehovah / walking in the stubbornness of his own heart ) THAT THEY WILL HAVE PEACE AND SECURITY from Jehovah’s part if they will continue to follow themselves (the FALSE PROPHETS) and to remain in the so-called “God’s earthly organization”!

    BUT SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS TO BE INSTANTLY UPON THEM (both the false teachers and their (conscious) followers) !
    —-

    Nowaday there is a spiritual fight between the “spiritual leadership” of “organization” and the real “brothers of Christ”, I mean the “least ones” (Matt 25:40 / Revelation 17:14 )
    in this battle the “Fds” uses interpretations of God’s word in order to consolidate their own (and their organization) positions , interpretations that comes not from God’s Holy Spirit .

    These “private interpretations” invented and used in order to deceive are named in Bible “sorceries” 1 Timothy 4:1 Isaiah 57:3 Isaiah 47:9 Rev 21:27 Rev 22:15

  • Max

    So the proclamation of peace and security comes before the great tribulation? In other words we could expect for the ruling nations to proclaim peace and security at that moment world war 3 will start. The war will start the great tribulation, the days of the GT will be cut short. Coming out of the GT a new world wide government will be in power and all that turmoil will cover a period of 3 1/2 years coming to a great ending during Armageddon.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Hi Max .I think you might enjoy reading these articles I know I did.

      Regarding “Times and Seasons” – Part 3.
      Excerpt:
      Since the world already seems to be on a short fuse burning down to an explosion unprecedented in human history, we may expect in the coming months for the threat of war to subside and perhaps then “they” will be saying “peace and security” over some long-sought for – seemingly unattainable – agreement between Israel and Palestine and other Arab nations, at which point World War III will suddenly erupt and the financial system will blowout and the leading nations will topple (“sudden destruction”) – only to arise from the ashes to commence the concluding “times and seasons” designated in prophecy.Read more> https://e-watchman.com/regarding-times-and-seasons/
      Read a lot more>Search results for: they peace and security
      https://e-watchman.com/?s=they+peace+and+security

      • Max

        Thank you Kevin!

    • the NWT uses the word “durning”. biblehub.com/1_thessalonians/5-3.htm

    • That’s the way I see it. I know JW’s have been led to think that their saying “peace and security” occurs immediately before Armageddon, but keep in mind virtually everything the WT teaches in regards to modern fulfillment of prophecy is wrong. If we read Paul’s words in context he was explaining what is to occur during the parousia; namely, the first resurrection. And it is Jesus’ presence that comes like a thief in the night. That is proven by Jesus’ illustration in the 12th chapter of Luke, where Jesus said he would come alongside those whom he found ready and waiting. Paul used the same analogy of the day coming as a thief in the night, “whenever it is they are saying “peace and security.”

      • i hope he comes and sees me. if not i will be gheart broken. im just sick of all this everyday…

      • kakure Basho

        Also maybe peace and security has nothing to do with the political affairs of the world. Maybe it has to do with the Christian congregation. Elders and governing body members telling the congregations that there is peace and security within the organization. World leaders say it and it kind of a bland promise. The governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses says it and we have a frightening scenario for God’s people.because the more the are exposed the more unsecure it becomes. Idk I also could be totally wrong.

        • Island Breeze

          That is a good point and something to consider!

        • Jamie Mac

          Hi Kakure, good point. One thing to consider though, all JW’s believe they are in spiritual Paradise which probably means there is a belief among JW’s that Peace and Security already resides within the organisation. Of course we know on this site that is not the case.

          • kakure Basho

            Oh man good point! Unless people keep leaving in droves. That might set the stage for it to be said by the governing body, idk. But you make a convincing point!

        • Isaac of Coimbatore

          You mean the collapse of the WTS?

          • kakure Basho

            Umm which comment are you referring to

            • Isaac of Coimbatore

              I mean the last line the more they are exposed the more unsecure it becomes to WTS and finally collapses.

            • kakure Basho

              Yah, I was saying that maybe we could even say peace and security is more in connection with the GB and the congregations. Like more exposure or more losses to the watchtower means more unease by the congregants, which will lead to having to convince people not worry. Nothing really original. I’m sure many others have thought this before. Could totally not be the case.Idk

      • Max

        Thank you brother King!

      • Noe Namely

        so…meaning that they only need to be talking about Peace & Security & not necessarily having Peace & Security in. hand? Just the fact that they are talking about it? Am I getting that right?

  • kakure Basho

    But the same thing can be said when one finds out that they’ve been bamboozled into believing a lie. Lamps get removed all the time!

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Who will be able to stand when he appears?.
      Excerpt:
      when the messenger of the covenant comes “he will be like the fire of a refiner and like the lye of laundrymen. And he will sit as a refiner and cleanser of silver and will cleanse the sons of Levi; and he will clarify them like gold and like silver…”

      The analogy of clarifying persons from their spiritual impurities like a refiner processes gold and silver is not unique to the prophecy of Malachi. The first chapter of Isaiah uses the same analogy in reference to the prospective heirs of the Kingdom, saying: “I will turn my hand against you, I will smelt away your dross as with lye, and I will remove all your impurities.”

      When does this refining process take place? Speaking to his watchman, Ezekiel, Jehovah said: “Son of man, to me those of the house of Israel have become as scummy dross. All of them are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace. Much scummy dross, that of silver, they have become. Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘For the reason that all of you have become as much scummy dross, therefore here I am collecting you together into the midst of Jerusalem. As in collecting silver and copper and iron and lead and tin into the midst of a furnace, in order to blow upon it with fire to cause a liquefying, so I shall collect them together in my anger and in my rage, and I will blow and cause you people to liquefy. And I will bring you together and blow upon you with the fire of my fury, and you must be liquefied in the midst of her. As in the liquefying of silver in the midst of a furnace, so you people will be liquefied in the midst of her; and you will have to know that I myself, Jehovah, have poured out my rage upon you.’”

      The purpose of God in collecting and “liquifying” his people is in order to skim off the scummy dross —which in the literal refining process left behind pure gold or silver. Thus, although Jehovah intends to pour out his rage, it is not intended to destroy his people entirely, but to cleanse them of their error. But is this something that has already been accomplished? Well, did Jehovah pour out his rage in 1914 or any time since then? Of course not.Read more> https://e-watchman.com/will-able-stand-appears/

      • kakure Basho

        Yo Kevin, I am a mouth breathing moron, so you have to explain what you meant by that reply to anything I’ve said like a 2nd grader. What does that all mean in accordance with my reply to Robert?

      • The Raven

        Excellent explanation, Kevin. The article goes into great detail concerning the operation of error and the man of lawlessness. Thank you.

  • e.v.g

    The robot article is interesting, in the 90’s I was h

  • JTK

    “for when they are saying “peace and security” then sudden DESTRUCTION shall come upon them as travail a woman with child and they shall not ESCAPE”
    destruction refered to surely is armageddon not ww3
    the apostle Paul refering to the return of Christ and the destruction of the ungodly says
    “but you brothers are not in darkness so that day overtake you as a thief”
    in other words you will survive and not be destroyed but they will not.
    so how can the eighth king and its society of worshipers survive “sudden destruction”?
    is it no more reasonable to recognise that the eighth King is the one declaring peace and security as accomplished under his totalitarian control of the earth with his one world government, army and economy

    • The coming of Christ will be accompanied by war, famine and pestilence. We are talking destruction on a massive scale. The 8th king does not come to life until after the seventh king suffers a fatal wound. That obviously has not occurred yet. The sudden destruction comes as a thief in the night, which also happens to be the analogy Jesus used to describe his sudden arrival.

      • JTK

        well ok but scripture reads to me as these events actually preceed the coming of Christ as a sign of what is near mark13:28,29
        rather than directly accompanying his presence.
        if fact Christ warns that during these preceeding events many will falsely proclaim that Christ has arrived mark 13 21,22
        yes it is true the 7th has to die to create the eighth, but Christ still has not yet arrived .
        daniel11 describes the activity of the King of the North lreading up to his eighth king role and then goes on to tell us in ch12 that it is at this time that Michael the Great Prince stands up v1, a time of trouble for the holy ones like never before occurs, those written in the book shall be saved, the resurrection takes place, and the Sons of God are revealed who dispense understanding to the many which is in concurance with the coming alongside them by Christ ch 12:2,3
        the sudden destruction occurs when the eighth king, his armies and those who receive the mark challenge the kingdom of Christ.psalm 2
        when the eight king has total control or so he believes he will be speaking grandeous things of how peace and security is achieved and even speaking against the most high Daniel 7;8,9

        revelation ch16v 15 “behold i come as athief blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments lest he walk naked and they see his shame”
        ch16v16

        “and he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Ar-ma-ged’-don”
        forgive me Robert its just how i see it

        • into the light

          This is the way I understand it, too.

  • Island Breeze
    • Burt Reynolds

      What Russell said was correct: the generations that saw 1874, 1914, 1975, plus the generation who knew Franz, add the time between Adams creation and the creation of Eve, plus the time it took Adam to name the animals, minus the time that Satan screwed it all up. Add all these 26s up, plus those who were alive at the time of the lie about the ‘evidently linked generations’, plus the time it took to build Warwick, and you come to 2018, give or take a few years. You just need to have faith, Breezy. For further info, read the next watchtower that comes out in May next year.

      • Max

        LOL

      • Isaac of Coimbatore

        What’s special?

  • Bklyn Kevin

    North Korea’s latest missile launch puts Washington DC in range for first time, says expert
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-latest-missile-range-us-washington-dc-trump-news-updates-a8081206.html

    Donald Trump has said that the US will “take care” of the situation with North Korea in the wake of the latest missile launch.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-live-latest-news-updates-trump-missile-test-japan-kim-jong-un-today-a8081126.html#post-1107344867

    • Island Breeze

      Propaganda by the powers that be to keep the military industrial complex OVER funded, while the common folks go hungry. If this little fat BOY was a threat he would have got a bullet to the head a long time ago https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96652298b75577fad316c458573a41298a5905904996e1be3078e590cf9dfa29.jpg .
      Now let him create his own money and back it with gold, see how long he lasts.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        I appreciate you’re Point BUT regardless of what you or anybody else says I’ll keep on the watch just as Jesus had advised us to do.
        1 Thessalonians 5:6 So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses

        • Leonard k

          more now then ever we should keep on the watch. observe the world around us we are seeing some world events that had never happened before take place right in front of our very eyes. THE SCENE OF THE WORLD (HAS STARTED)* TO CHANGE http://www.lemauricien.com/article/scene-world-has-started-change

          it feels to me as if time is speeding up this system we currently live in will soon be a thing of the past and for those of us who might survive through they will reflect on things after it’s all over and it will all seemed to have happened in a blink of an eye. the political world society the planet it’s self changing at a phenomenal rate it’s enough to make your head spin but what is most frightening is the biblical time line of it all. you can just see and sense how everything is lining up with biblical prophecy and it shocks me that people in general act as if nothing at all is going on. its just another day another dollar to the world. just as in the Just as the Days of Noah.
          https://youtu.be/W7QAP56zOoo

          • Leonard k
          • Leonard k
          • Leonard k

            to be sure it’s all going down. Jehovah has always warned mankind before he took action and he’s given us plenty of warning to date so yes I would say again keep on the watch and witness the end of this wicked system of things and it’s corrupted people’s

            Mark 13:37
            But what I say to you, I say to all: Keep on the watch.”

            Matthew 24:42
            Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

            Matthew 26:40
            He returned to the disciples and found them sleeping, and he said to Peter: “Could you not so much as keep on the watch for one hour with me?

            Numbers 14:18
            ‘Jehovah, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love, pardoning error and transgression, but he will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation.’

            Deuteronomy 6:22
            So before our eyes Jehovah kept sending signs and miracles, great and devastating, upon Egypt, upon Pharʹaoh, and upon all his household.

            Ezekiel 11:12
            and you will have to know that I am Jehovah. For you did not walk in my regulations and carry out my judgments, but you have acted in harmony with the judgments of the nations around you.’”

            Ezekiel 20:36
            “‘Just as I entered into judgment with your forefathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.

          • The Raven

            True. They hear and see so much about wars here and there and figure some how they will always step back from the abyss and avert disaster. I beleive these people will smoke em if they got em…nukes. it’s just a matter of time and the belligerent talk is something many of us have never seen. Not even during the cold war. It’s become a macabre dance.

            • Leonard k

              the world is literally a mad house!

        • Leonard k

          to be sure it’s all going down. Jehovah has always warned mankind before he took action and he’s given us plenty of warning to date so yes I would say again keep on the watch and witness the end of this wicked system of things and it’s corrupted people’s

          Mark 13:37
          But what I say to you, I say to all: Keep on the watch.”

          Matthew 24:42
          Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

          Matthew 26:40
          He returned to the disciples and found them sleeping, and he said to Peter: “Could you not so much as keep on the watch for one hour with me?

          Numbers 14:18
          ‘Jehovah, slow to anger and abundant in loyal love, pardoning error and transgression, but he will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation.’

          Deuteronomy 6:22
          So before our eyes Jehovah kept sending signs and miracles, great and devastating, upon Egypt, upon Pharʹaoh, and upon all his household.

          Ezekiel 11:12
          and you will have to know that I am Jehovah. For you did not walk in my regulations and carry out my judgments, but you have acted in harmony with the judgments of the nations around you.’”

          Ezekiel 20:36
          “‘Just as I entered into judgment with your forefathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.

          • The Raven

            Yep. Folks can’t say they haven’t been warned.

        • Noe Namely

          Agreed Kevin! There are so many facets in these events in our time, there is no way we should feel at ease & drift off to sleep. Just when one finds they are beginning to relax and think the Great Trib is far off in the future….this might well be the “snare” and our undoing…. May we stay ever mindful, doing all in our power to keep ourselves clean, avoiding pitfalls of the heart, flesh, prideful thinking & relying on our own imperfect reason….. Even though I probably know much less scripture than most of you here… I hope I’ve learned enough to not allow myself to take my eye off the ball. As always, I enjoyed your post very much & always have found your counsel to be uplifting and beneficial. mike

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Noe Namely thank you for your most encouraging comment at least some of us are getting the sense of it, BUT unfortunately many do feel at ease or complacent and a lot that has to do with the fact that the Watchtower has already said many of these events had already occurred In their erroneous 1914 scenario but what most don’t realize is that it’s going to be just like in the days of Noah when they took no note and sudden destruction Came Upon them.

            Beloved ones, this is now the second letter I am writing you in which, as in my first one, I am stirring up your clear thinking faculties by way of a reminder,that you should remember the sayings previously spoken by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles. First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his?+ Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.”
            For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water.But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people. Read more> https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/books/2-peter/3/#v61003001-v61003007

            • Leonard k
            • The Raven

              You know what’s so odd about this? I have non believing friends who know bad things are in the wind and have made preperations for them. The believers seem to be the ones who want to think this is all a long ways off. It’s looking a lot like folks on the outside are more receptive to the message than those who “know”. I’m not certain about exactly how or who actually launches a strike but when the horsemen ride they take out a quarter of humanity. Without divine intervention man would kill everyone and everything, so those days are cut short to ensure the survival of the anointed and great crowd. This must occur at outset of the beginnings of the pangs of distress and not armegedfon

    • Burt Reynolds

      What amazed me was that while California et al could be reached by these missiles, nothing was done, but now they can reach DC all of a sudden, ‘it will be taken care of.’ One is not sure what the priority is; de-population, or concern about themselves! Probably the latter. Have you seen the argument for energy directed weaponry and the Californian fires, verses the planning of new dwellings? It makes strange reading indeed! These last few months the world seems to have gone absolutely crazy from transvestites teaching nursery children sexual equality issues, to North Korea firing off world war three. Not only that but our wonderful ‘government’ is offering the European community £55 billion to leave. I don’t know why they just don’t hand the keys to the country over to Brussels. ☹️

      • Jamie Mac

        Hi Burt, from what you said, it sounds like Peace and Security is a long way off. As these forthcoming events are not manipulated by human hands directly, it seems all we can do is to keep praying for the kingdom to come. Jesus suggested this anyway. It’s no wonder people become cynical when discussing this subject. After all, how many false expectations/predictions have there been over the years regarding this prophecy. For example, look at Joseph’s/Island breeze/can’t remember his other alias, comment just below.

        • Burt Reynolds

          I don’t think it’s a long way off Jamie, I think it could be quite near given our friend in North Korea. Let’s hope so.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          Hi Jamie I enjoyed your comment thank you.,which made me think of this article and I thought you might enjoy reading it.

          The Lord’s Day is Coming Exactly as a Thief in the Night.

          Excerpt:
          QUESTION: I was reading one of the study articles called “Why Keep on the Watch,” and in paragraph 12, I found this interesting statement about what’s to come in the future. 12 Do not let the apathy of others discourage or dissuade you from keeping on the watch. You know better. Paul wrote to fellow believers: “You yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming,” and he added, “exactly as a thief in the night.” Jesus warned us: “Keep ready, because at an hour that you do not think likely, the Son of man is coming.” (Luke 12:39, 40) —Soon, Satan will deceive the masses into accepting a false sense of “peace and security.” He will mislead them into thinking that all is well on the world scene. What about us? That day of judgment does not have to “overtake [us] as it would thieves,” provided we “stay awake and keep our senses.” —-That is why we daily must read God’s written Word and meditate on what Jehovah is telling us.

          Based on the line that I indicated, would this be the beginning of the great tribulation? Also, would you agree this false sense of peace and security is a unique event in the future and not the relative peace that exists in some parts of the world?
          Read more> https://e-watchman.com/lords-day-coming-exactly-thief-night/

  • Sam Knight

    I think your spelling of “Shiite” is wrong. 😂 Interesting read though. Thank you.

    • The Raven

      You would notice that! Lol!

  • Leonard k

    Matthew 24:6
    You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

    https://youtu.be/y3ShCB99P0M

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