Moving Ahead with Jehovah’s Organization

//Moving Ahead with Jehovah’s Organization

Belated commentary

Friday, September 30

One thing I have asked from Jehovah—it is what I will look for—that I may dwell in the house of Jehovah all the days of my life.Ps. 27:4.

As part of Jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about God’s promised new world!  “The meek will possess the earth,” says Psalm 37:11, “and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.” People “will build houses and live in them” and will enjoy “the work of their hands.” There will be no more oppression, poverty, and hunger. Babylon the Great will no longer deceive anyone, for she will not exist.  The dead will be resurrected and given the opportunity to live forever. What thrilling prospects exist for millions who have made a dedication to Jehovah! For such promises to become realities for us as individuals, we must continue to make spiritual progress, moving ahead with God’s organization, always keeping pace with it.


Israel was once Jehovah’s earthly organization. But when the Messiah came Israel had fulfilled its purpose, or nearly so. Ultimately, Christ set up a new organization and Israel was gradually phased out and Jerusalem —the center of worship in those days —was eventually, completely destroyed.

Contrary to what was undoubtedly the prevailing opinion among the Jews then —that their leaders would guide them aright —the self-exalting religious leaders did not accept Jesus as the Messiah. Far from it. Instead of leading the people to Christ, the Pharisees, Sadducees, scribes and priests, were his most ardent enemies. Although some among their number believed, most were afraid to publicly acknowledge Jesus for fear of losing their positions in Jewish society. As the gospel relates: ‘They loved the glory of men more than the glory of God.’

But Jesus’ ministry was so far-reaching, his presence so impactful, his teaching so masterful, the common people —at least those who loved God —could not help but be drawn to him. Those who accepted Jesus as the One sent by God allowed him to be their Lord and teacher. Soon, Jesus had them sufficiently trained and he sent them out to preach about the Kingdom. First he sent out the Twelve. Then he commissioned 70 in pairs, to go through the land of Israel, village to village.

As Jesus was departing this world he gave them a grand assignment to go to the ends of the earth teaching others about the Kingdom. His parting words were: “Look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

In Jesus’ absence Christianity was absorbed into the decadent Roman Empire —replacing Mithras as the state religion. And the Lord’s command to preach the Kingdom was nullified, made illegal —punishable by death.

But toward the end of the 19th century suddenly another evangelical work was undertaken by the so-called International Bible Students. In many respects they demonstrated the same zealous spirit as those whom Jesus sent out originally —going from town-to-town, farm-to-farm, house to house, with the message. Jesus was obviously with them, as he said he would be. The Watchtower Society was, of course, instrumental in training, equipping and directing the Bible Students then and Jehovah’s Witnesses now.

There is another parallel to consider. Because Jesus instructed his disciples to declare the dynamic message that the Kingdom of God had drawn near, they naturally assumed that meant that the Kingdom was going to immediately come to power and crush the Roman Empire. The account in the 19th chapter of Luke says of this situation: “While they were listening to these things, he told another illustration, because he was near Jerusalem and they thought that the Kingdom of God was going to appear instantly.”

But Jesus’ illustration of the master who traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power for himself left open the possibility that Jesus might return during the lifespan of the apostles; hence, a rumor spread from the apostles and persisted through the first century that John would be alive when Jesus returned. It was not until the apostle wrote the closing words of his gospel toward the end of his life that the rumor was finally dispelled.

The parallel is that the Bible Students and Jehovah’s Witnesses have also “thought that the Kingdom was going to appear instantly,” or during the 1914 generation. Thus, “moving ahead with God’s organization” has had its challenges.

Returning to the parting words of Jesus and his being with his disciples until the conclusion of the system raises an important question Jehovah’s Witnesses would do well to consider, and it is this: Since Jesus is with his true disciples prior to the conclusion, how does that relationship change during the conclusion?

The reason that question is relevant is because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the conclusion of the system began in 1914, and yet there is no observable difference in the relationship between Jesus and his followers since 1914.

Obviously the preaching and teaching work that Jesus began while he was on earth was carried on in his absence during the first century, so we should not suppose that the worldwide work the Watchtower sponsors now can only be accomplished during the conclusion.

revelationThere is another interesting parallel. As the last surviving apostle, John found himself in exile on the penal island of Patmos. It was there that the aged apostle received the Revelation directly from Jesus Christ. We might think of Revelation as simply the last book in the Bible, but it is much more than that —as Jesus stated, it is a revelation of the things that must shortly take place. (For a consideration of the Watchtower’s Grand Climax commentary on Revelation see the archived blog

John did not merely receive dictation and write down the things he was told. He enacted with Jesus in the visions that gripped him. He saw Jesus in vision and Christ spoke with him and touched him. John described his encounter with the glorious Lord in the opening chapter of Revelation.

“I turned to see who was speaking with me, and when I turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands someone like a son of man, clothed in a garment that reached down to the feet and wearing a golden sash around his chest. Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes were like a fiery flame, and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long, two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was like the sun when it shines at its brightest. When I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet.”

Many years before John had a similar experience on the Mount of transfiguration, when Jesus’ countenance shone like the sun and a great fear fell over the three apostles.

That Jesus appeared to John in the midst of the seven lampstands is significant. The seven golden lampstands represent the seven congregations. And the fact that Jesus appeared to a representative member of those congregations while in the midst of the lampstands signifies that Jesus will appear to his chosen ones during the apocalypse. And the fact that John experienced this fore gleam of the parousia toward the close of the apostolic era is a portent too, indicating that the conclusion and the parousia take place after the preaching work is finished.

Just as Israel fulfilled its purpose when Christ came, so too, the Watchtower will have accomplished God’s purpose in connection with it when Christ arrives. Then, moving ahead and keeping pace will take place apart from what is commonly thought to be Jehovah’s organization presently.

2017-10-28T18:34:16+00:00 September 30th, 2016|Commentary|110 Comments
  • Yuri Fisher


    I totally agree that WT today represent Jehovah’s arrengment for true worship. But as Pharisees and other parts of Judaism then became corrupted and needed replacement so today JW leadership became corrupted in their dealings with people. They suppress any free thinking while saying in WT literature investigate Bible. And when true witnesses brothers do investigate Bible and their investigation is not compatible with official WT dogmas then problem begins. How similar it to Pharisees of old. Jesus told them biblical truth and they rejected him. So today WT system of worship also must be replaced by Jehovah. And then all true witnesses of Jehovah will have freedom of speech. We do not know who will remain true anointed after fall of WT. But I am sure we will see them and will go after them. I am prepated to follow true anointed. Blessings to you.

    from Israel

  • Song of Hannah

    Very encouraging thoughts regarding Christ appearing in the midst of the lamp stands. Thanks Robert!

  • Daisy

    And heartfelt thanks to C.T Russell for his zealously pursuing the Truth & steering us away from the Trinity, Hell fire, immortality of the soul…Introducing us to out Sovereign and making His Name and purpose known to us and giving us the hope of welcoming our dead beloved back from the dead with open arms.
    You done good brother Charles… Love you.
    Daisy says hello to everyone..x

    • Joel

      Well hello there Daisy girl! Where’ve you been? We missed you!

      It’s interesting that you give a big shout out of thanks to C.T. Russell. Why? Because now, in our weekly Congregation book study, we are told that Brother Russell WAS NOT ANOINTED! But he was more of in the same category as John the Baptist, a ‘preparer of the way” for the lord; in this case for the newly appointed Faithful and Discreet Slave.

      Even as Russell restored true Christianity, laying the groundwork for the new Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, he himself has now been relagated—although royally—to a ‘ door opener’ for the F&DS.

      • Daisy

        Hahaha…you don’t say!.One door opens, another door closes ahah…and as if I’m going to believe them that will persecute and throw me from the kingdom hall…
        Why I’ve been fighting chemo…yuk…Biff…pow . zap…all done with that… Next…x

        • Joel

          Hahaha! You are so right Sis! It is so easy for the Watchtower Society to just discard a prior belief; relagating it out the back door into the scrapheap of a myriad of ‘once-taught beliefs. So much for ‘moving ahead with Jehovah’s Organization,’ huh!

          Changing gears for quick sec . . . How do you feel Sis?

          • Daisy

            Yes Joel…moving ahead through wt eyes is like looking at life through a rear view mirror…if that makes sense…

            I’m feeling grrrrreat thanks Joel. Buoyed by everybody’s prayers and loving support and I’ve got my e:mailers & Burt on Messenger who fill me with so much joy to be alive…he who edures to the end sweetie. 😀

            • Joel

              There you go! That’s the spirit!

              If there is anything I can do to be of assistance, please do not hesitate to let me know. I mean that.

              Love ya Sis!

        • Sam

          Dearest Daisy! Good to see you fighting away…it’s a tough one when you’ve got two fights to put up with isn’t it. Good to see you slugging it out, much love and prayers to you. Hope you aint got chemo brain 😛

          • Daisy

            Hello Sam, I’m hoping my old bones hold out long enough to face our biggest fight ahead, facing the tribulation, that they don’t shake too long when Jesus reveals himself!
            Your love & prayers are gratefully received thank you Sam. Good to know you’re not too far away up the motorway. :Daisy

            • sally

              Hi Daisy! I am so glad you are fighting the good fight and seem to be winning 🙂 I love reading your comments they are always uplifting and happy despite your own very serious health issues. So keep going and I reckon you will be the last one standing at Armageddon!

      • LW

        Where does it say that Joel?

        • Joel

          Please see above post.

          • LW

            Ah ok interesting. Makes you curious about the identity true anointed ones eh?

            • Joel

              Yes it does, right?

            • LW

              Indeed it does.

            • LW

              Btw Joel, doesn’t this song make you think of the revealing of the sons of God during the final hour?


            • Joel

              I listened to the song. Wow! Fantastic orchestral arrangement! Very intriguing, that’s for sure.

            • LW

              Thanks man. You know, I’m not sure if you heard by now, being a person who enjoys listening to this type of music, would you believe the Society actually used a song from a group called Audiomachine in the last video on Sunday of the Paradise? The song was called Eternal Flame, from their album called Epica.

              Most JWs aren’t familiar with listening to this music, and so most didn’t recognize it I’d imagine. Well I posted a short clip of the song on my instagram and mentioned it was used in the convention part. Would you believe that I did not get a single like after 24 hours? I was so disappointed man that I removed the post.

              Even when the WT uses a song from the genre I’m so passionate about..nothing, at least on my end…

              I just had to say Wow..

      • Kevin b

        I must have missed that point about Russell not being one of the anointed. Can you share that location in the book please?

        • Joel

          Hey Kevin.

          No, I did not mean to say that Russell was not part of the anointed anymore, but rather, that he was not a member of the as-yet-to-be-appointed Faithful and Discreet Slave.

          Please see the footnote (*) I left above.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Can you quote it please. I don’t have that article. Thanks.

            • Joel

              You can read the entire article, and series of 4 articles on new Watchtower understandings at this link:


              Let me know what you think.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Joel. I still can’t find it. Can you tell me what article it is or quote it directly, which may be better. Thank you.

            • Annie

              Burt, “16 The Bible Students’ diligent study of the
              Scriptures yielded rich results. Those loyal men and women exposed
              false doctrines and spread spiritual truths, publishing and distributing
              Bible literature far and wide. Their work won the hearts and convinced
              the minds of many who were hungering and thirsting for spiritual truth.
              An intriguing question therefore
              arises: Were the Bible Students in the years that led up to 1914 the
              appointed channel through which Christ would feed his sheep? No. They
              were still in the growing season, and the arrangement for a channel to
              provide spiritual food was still taking shape. The time had not yet come
              for the weedlike imitation Christians to be separated from the true
              Christian wheat.”

              & Para 17; ” As we learned in the preceding article,
              the harvest season began in 1914. In that year, a number of important
              developments began to unfold. Jesus was enthroned as King, and the last
              days began. (Rev. 11:15)
              From 1914 to the early part of 1919, Jesus accompanied his Father to
              the spiritual temple to do a much-needed inspection and cleansing work. * (Mal. 3:1-4)
              Then, starting in 1919, it was time to begin gathering the wheat. Was
              it finally the time for Christ to appoint one organized channel to
              dispense spiritual food? Yes, indeed!”………………….

              This is the para that Joel mentioned, although they don’t specifically say that CT wasn’t a chosen one, simply infer it (which is a snide bit of a ‘kick in the wotsits’ for CT if you ask me!)

              Check the article & the preceding one from here

              You might well find the article following interesting (if not mightily confusing – see para 6, most confusing, I think I need a lie down in a darkened room!!)

            • LW

              Hi Annie, I have a question that maybe you could answer for me:

              Those loyal men and women exposed
              false doctrines and spread spiritual truths, publishing and distributing
              Bible literature far and wide. Their work won the hearts and convinced
              the minds of many who were hungering and thirsting for spiritual truth.

              While they were not part of the faithful and discreet slave then, they were still anointed. My question is: If an individual today can look at something in the world and be able to not only extract tidbits of truth for it, but to boldly expose it for what it truly is in light of Biblical truth, would you not say, that this individual is one of the anointed ?

            • Annie

              I had to think about this for a while, LW. If I understand you correctly you are asking me whether anyone who ‘sees’ & exposes things which are not Biblically correct are of the anointed class.

              My answer is that unless they have been specifically ‘notified’ by Jehovah that they are a chosen one then, no, they are not.

              Being a chosen one is a very deep feeling of knowledge, the same as knowing one is of the ‘other sheep’ – you just know! For example I know I definitely do not want to go to heaven & so my hope is an earthly one.

              I imagine there are a few people around who just think that because they seem to understand more deeply than others that they must naturally have been chosen by Jehovah & that is why some partake of the emblems mistakenly every year, but I think Jehovah eventually puts their thinking straight as time goes on

            • Burt Reynolds

              Thanks Annie for writing that. Most helpful. I shall endeavour to look at para 6!

  • Tony Jos Alapatt

    Anybody from Chicago?

    • Joel

      I am.

  • Tony Jos Alapatt

    Am a regular reader of Robert King’s article. My search for truth led me to his site – a treasure trove. Before this, I used to visit now and then to get some understanding and knowledge of things I read from the Scriptures.

    To me personally, Mr. Robert’s insight and knowledge on Biblical matters made me have a firm grip on the Truth.

    • Joel

      Hi Tony!
      I don’t believe I have had the good pleasure of meeting you.

      Well, I am Brother Joel. Hello there! And yes, I am from Chicago.

      • Tony Jos Alapatt

        Well, I had a Bible study with one of the JW for the past two years. I should say I got the basic-and-more Bible truths from them. He is a wonderful brother. But the 1914 thing did not get into me however I tried. The brother took the study, showed proof texts, but was not satisfied. I also asked if I can take baptism should I am not okay with 1914 and he was trying to convince in his best way. I should say he is a wonderful brother. My two other brothers are JW and am not. As I was searching I found Robert’s website about two years ago.
        I do not have anybody to talk to regarding Bible, so I do not go to KH nor have anything church, am feel lonely. But RK website and bible helps me to strenghthen,

        • Annie

          welcome, Tony, great to meet you & so happy you decided to join us in our little spiritual family. Try to get back into going to the Kingdom Hall, even if you only go for the Public Talk, it is really important because that is where you will find Jehovah & some great teaching, remember it IS Jehovahs organisation regardless of some of the false teachings!

          Don’t be a stranger here.

  • chad cruz

    Valuable post – I was fascinated by the points . Does anyone know if I might acquire a fillable TSP-70-A form to type on ?

  • Burt Reynolds

    What are the seven congregations please?

    • sally

      Hello Burt I hope you are doing ok? I actually think I might know the answer to this. It’s the congregations in Paul’s letters. Ephesians, Corinthians, Romans, Colossions etc….I am probably wrong now I wrote that lol, but my understanding is that the seven congregations made up the first annointed Christians.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello Sally, thanks for this. I’m still not understanding the application so I’m asking again to get an understanding on it and its implications. I expect we will find out soon! I was of the same thinking as you but there appears to be other understandings of the scripture. We will know soon enough I’ve no doubt!

        • sally

          Ok Burt when you do find another understanding of this please share! I am going by my bible study as this was only discussed a couple of weeks ago. Of course this could be totally wrong as my study sister was talking about the heavenly kingdom and Jesus currently residing over the seven congregations, (being the ones I mentioned). As they are anointed and were resurrected in 1914.

          • Burt Reynolds

            I think what is coming through Sally is that it applies to the world congregation, but I’m waiting to see what Kevin can offer by way of the scriptures. I just don’t know!

    • Annie

      It is from Rev 1:20 through to Rev 3:22 – i.e. “the ‘seven congregations’ of Revelation, with their characteristics give a complete picture of all the congregations of God on earth” (quote from Insight Bk)
      Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello Annie, are you saying then that the seven congregations are figurative of the entire watchtower organisation and or those who understand the error of such?

        • Annie

          Burt, I have searched for a more detailed explanation, but can find nothing, even on Google. However, since John was writing to the chosen ones of that time & to the 7 congregations in Asia which is more or less ‘their known world’ at the time, I am presuming that the gist of the message is also for the chosen ones throughout the entire organisation of Jehovahs people in these current days (whether within the Society or not)

          Also the end of Rev 3 goes as follows;

          19 “‘All those for whom I have affection, I reprove and discipline. So be zealous and repent.
          20 Look! I am standing at the door and knocking. If anyone hears my voice and
          opens the door, I will come into his house and take the evening meal with him and he with me.
          21 To the one who conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, just as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. (obviously refers to the chosen ones)
          22 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.’”

          In my ‘silver’ Bible the explanation for congregation is “A group of people gathered together for a particular purpose or activity. In the Hebrew Scriptures, it generally refers to the nation of Israel. In the Christian Greek Scriptures, it refers to individual congregations of Christians but more often to the Christian congregation in general”………….so, I am presuming that it can refer to the entire organisation as teaching on how Jesus views the whole & the individual

          members, even though it was written primarily to the chosen ones.
          Don’t take my word as ‘gospel’ (*gospel – oooof!*) but I would myself be inclined to read those scriptures as referring to me in how I need to adjust my feelings, loyalty, conduct, etc before Jehovah in order to improve myself as one of His children.

          • 1914for100Alex

            This is how I’m understanding it also.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Thanks Annie for your time spent in this. I shall keep on trying to improve myself. Improving myself always reminds me of the half life of radio active material. It volatility keeps halving itself but there will always be a half life left. So it is with improvement, there is always room for more……sigh….

            • Annie

              onwards & upwards, Burt 🙂 Keep your nose in the Bible & the improvements should follow – at least I hope that’s how it will work for me!!!!

    • Bklyn Kevin

      The coming implosion of the Watchtower (archive 2005)

      As for the cooling off, that must pertain to Jehovah’s people as well. Consider the fact that Jesus rebuked some of the anointed Ephesian Christians in his letter to them in Revelation for leaving the love they had at first. As all of Jehovah’s Witnesses know,

      Jesus’ letters to the seven congregations really apply to Christ’s anointed followers in the Lord’s day.

      It shows that some anointed Christians allow their love for God to grow cold. So, it is evident that the increasing of lawlessness and hypocrisy, along with a cooling off of love for God, takes place among Jehovah’s Witnesses and not Christendom, as is presently imagined. (For a more thoroughly discussion of this aspect of the sign of Jesus’ presence see the essay entitled:

      A Closer Look @ 1914

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello Kevin, thank you for this. I still do not understand what the seven congregations are/were. I cannot connect what these articles and your comment refer to in terms of seven congregations. Are you saying that the seven congregations is a euphemism for the congregations of the watchtower? Roberts articles do not seem to cover the topic. Can you be more explicit please…I need explicit! Many thanks.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          Good morning Burt!, I will do more research and get you that info as soon as possible.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Thanks Kevin.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Where do the 144,000 of Revelation come from?. Read this article in its entirety first.

              Part 6 – The Coming of Christ. Read this article in its entirety secondly.

              The coming implosion of the Watchtower (archive 2005)

              As all of Jehovah’s Witnesses know, Jesus’ letters to the seven congregations really apply to Christ’s anointed followers in the Lord’s day.

              The Kingdom of God
              But, again, when Jesus was on the earth he told the Jews: “the kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits.” In other words, because of their rejecting Jesus, the restored nation of Israel was no longer God’s nation and the Jews were no longer God’s people. The kingdom was going to be given to those who follow Christ. And the true followers of Christ would become the new “Israel of God.”

              On Pentecost, 33 C.E., the holy spirit began to be used to anoint Christ’s followers. The anointing constituted a calling, an invitation, to share with Christ in his kingdom. As called ones they were under the command to preach Jesus impaled and to serve as earthly ambassadors of the heavenly kingdom.

              Through his message to the seven congregations of Revelation, Jesus assured his anointed followers who would be living during the conclusion of the system of things that if they are faithful to their deaths they would be blessed with the privilege of smashing the warring nations with an iron rod and sit upon thrones with Christ himself and rule as kings over the world for 1,000 years – ultimately undoing all the evil that the Devil has wrought these past 6,000 years. Revelation also reveals that a total of 144,000 persons will ultimately be chosen to become immortal kings in the kingdom. Obviously, God’s kingdom will be the most powerful institution ever conceived.

              In that day the prophets will be ashamed.
              In his letters to the seven congregations Jesus condemns two congregations for their putting up with the spiritual adulteries and idolatries promoted by Jezebel and Balaam, the so-called diviner or sorcerer. And it can be fairly easily established that Christ has not thrown “Jezebel” into great tribulation yet, which is to occur when the Lord comes to set matters straight. That means that an evil influence resides in Christ’s congregations up until the judgment of the great day

              Chapter 21 – Micah
              of Christ to the seven, who, himself, was also taken from among mankind. Their shepherding the Assyrian with the sword is in complete harmony with what Christ promised his anointed followers in Thyatira, and by extension all congregations making up the body of Christ: “And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give…

              Chapter 3 – The Harvest
              That the wheat and the weeds are harvested from the same Christian organization is also apparent from the seven letters of Revelation; addressed to the seven congregations in the Lord’s day. Jesus’ counsel to the congregations plainly shows that some of the individual members within those congregations, even though anointed, do not necessarily meet with his approval and will not pass the test, unless they repent. For example, Christ said to the Sardis congregation: “Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your deeds fully performed before my God. Therefore, continue mindful of how you have received and how you heard, and go on keeping it, and repent. Certainly unless you wake up, I shall come as a thief, and you will not know at all at what hour I shall come upon you.”

              Chapter 13 – King of the North
              It is worth noting that Jesus Christ referred to the earthly throne of Satan in connection with his congregation. In commending a few anointed Christians in the Pergamum congregation, Jesus stated: “I know where you are dwelling, that is, where the throne of Satan is.” Evidently Jesus’ words are intended to acknowledge the influence upon the congregation due to its proximity to the throne of Satan. Keeping in mind that the letters to the seven symbolic congregations in Revelation are really intended for those living during the Lord’s Day, it becomes apparent that there is a specific capitol associated with the Devil’s government over the world in the present age. Of all the great cities in the world London appears to serve in the capacity of Satan’s earthly throne. In order to appreciate the place London occupies today as a demonic control-center and the impact London has had chiefly upon the United States, as well as the Watchtower and Jehovah’s Witnesses, consider, now, the development and origin of modern religious thoThat the wheat and the weeds are harvested from the same Christian organization is also apparentught and culture in Great Britain.

              Jesus congregation.

            • sally

              Wow a whole lot of reading for tomorrow night, thank you Bklyn Kevin!

  • Please8834

    Hello Robert.
    I couldn’t help notice some what of a correlation between Jesus coming arrival at luke 2:25-35 and his furture arrival..An interesting point is that Holy spirit was upon Simeon ,that he would not die until he actually physically saw the Messiah , its at this point in simeons old age just before he dies he is witness to the wander sight.. Again John is a very old close to dying as Simeon he too has waited for the Messiah to uhser in the New Kingdom even being anointed with holy spirit hasnt given him any idea when the kingdom would come to power, its only when the angel through a vision brings any light on the future of gods kingdom…I have watched countless brothers and sisters die waiting for Jesus Christ to bring the kingdom to power..My thoughts at this point , are that like Simeon and John, that its quite likely that many will fall asleep in death shortly after the actual arrival of God’s Kingdom possibility because many of them simply would not last through the great tribulation, that they will die knowing only that he has arrived… I oppologize for not being able to always put my jumbled thoughts into words ..Do you think this observation has any baring at this point ?..thank you

  • Rob

    Hi all.

    Do I have this right?

    Pushing takes place, Peace and security – sudden destruction = death stroke – downfall of America, global collapse. Satan and demons are cast down, God’s kingdom is established, Judgement day begins with God’s house first. Eighth king rises, mankind is put under compulsion to worship the image of the wild beast. The first resurrection – harvest commences, Christ’s parousia happens, the sealing of Christ’s brothers and the revealing of these. The harlot is destroyed, A final witness is given, the anointed remnant are martyred and then Armageddon, eighth king is destroyed without hand.

    Am I missing anything? I am not trying to oversimplify or in anyway be disrespectful, just trying to get my head around everything, and quickly. Thanks

  • T L C

    Very good read…thank you Brother Robert King!!! May Jehovah continue to bless you…

  • Rafaela

    Hello, friends! Let me introduce myself… My name is Rafaela, born and raised in Brazil and I’m turning 18 years old in two weeks. I’m relatively new to this website, though I’ve been watching Robert’s videos for a year now (I loooove Youtube). I started my bible study with the Jehovah’s Witnesses a little bit over two years ago and am not baptized yet, because my (former) bible teacher says I’m “not ready” and that it didn’t “click” to her that I’m prepared to be a Witness. Recently she completely and cold-heartedly quit our study sessions and never contacted me again. Even though she’s always complimented me for being faithful to Jehovah during hard times and being very open-minded to learn about Him, all of a sudden I wasn’t “ready” anymore. At the time, I was going through some family issues and couldn’t go to every single meeting at the Kingdom Hall. But I NEVER even suggested that I wanted to stop learning about Jehovah. I’m a little heartbroken, because I trusted and looked up to her, my mom and I always welcomed her into our house and she knew that. One of the last times I saw her was at my grandma’s funeral in the beginning of this year. I went through a very hard time after that, because not only had I lost a beloved family member, I then lost my weekly bible study, and that was the only thing keeping me sane for the last two years, because my grandma was struggling for that amount of time before she passed away and I was very close to her. After the former bible teacher dropped our study sessions, I stopped attending the meetings completely. Growing closer to Jehovah has been all I want in life, even though I didn’t know that till 2014. Now that I know, I’m struggling to get to know Him more, have been studying the bible on my own (I feel like I have a good “base”, I studied almost all of the What Does The Bible Really Teach? book) and of course, I do a lot of research online, and read every single post and comment here on this website, as well as My “reputation” at the Kingdom Hall I attended isn’t very good, because when I started going there I was the girl in pants who didn’t know better and would try to fit into friend group that were very much closed for business (unless I became a Witness, of course). And overall my encounters with people from the congregation are always awkward. I get attached to people very easily and consider them friends. So I try talking to them and asking about how things are going and how they’re doing and I always get the “you should really come back!” then they leave quickly. The thing is, I never really left. I almost feel like I was pushed away (without any motives). I’ve also changed and learned a lot these last few months, but I’m reluctant to come back to the Kingdom Hall because of everything I know now. 1914 being a false teaching and Christ’s visible parousia being a thing hit me hard. I also feel bad for feeling like a part of me doesn’t wanna go back, because I always witnessed so much hypocrisy and gossip among the congregation anyway, despite my efforts to ignore it. I stopped attending the meetings, but never stopped loving Jehovah. I don’t know what is enough anymore. Sorry if this was long! Just feel like you’ll maybe understand me. Will stick around the comment section, so see ya 🙂

    • Rafaela

      I’m sorry this was so long and didn’t relate to the post, didn’t know where else to communicate ?

      • Daisy

        Dont you worry about that Rafaela. You are received with open arms here. Your story will resonate with so many of us here so just begin to feel strongly that you are amongst loving, supportive brothers & sisters & remember…your joy of Jehovah is your strength.

        • Rafaela

          Thank you so much, Daisy! I’m so glad I found this website. Feel happy and blessed to be a part of it already :)<3

          • Daisy

            Prepare to be amazed at the changes finding here will make to your very soul!
            Finding here is the beginning of the many blessings coming your way & don’t worry about going off topic as poor Robert must be quite used to it by now because I do that all the time!

      • Annie

        Welcome, welcome, welcome, Rafaela, e Novamente bem-vindos, eu presumo que você fala português.

        (Eu não, eu usei Traduz Google apenas para fazer você se sentir em casa)

        Your story was very touching & as our pin-up girl Daisy said, it relates to many of us.
        I myself have been ‘dumped’ by my study sister. I was returning to the meetings after a long absence & she no longer even telephones me. She is a chosen one too.

        Stick around, you are indeed part of the family now, don’t just do as some do here, they join in at the beginning & then we never hear from them again.
        So lovely to meet a new little sister & don’t let anyone ever tell you that you are not ready for baptism, Jehovah knows your heart.

        • Burt Reynolds


        • Joel

          Yeah, as Annie says, ‘don’t be a stranger.’ Enjoy fellowship with us anytime of the day or night; someone is always “up” to talk to.

        • Rafaela

          Awww, muito obrigada por me acolher tão bem! <3
          Wow, I'm sorry about the situation with your former study sister. There seems to be a pattern going on here, since my mom was also "dumped" by her first study sister. She currently studies with another lady. I'll definitely go back to the Kingdom Hall next sunday, and will be finding a new study sister. I found the motivation I needed after reading your replies to my comment 🙂 this is an amazing family! <3

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Hello Rafaela and welcome!.

      Matthew 6:33-A
      Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness.

      1 Corinthians 15:58
      Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always having plenty to do in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in connection with the Lord.

      Constant prayers to Jehovah.
      Matthew 7:
      7 Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you;

      8 for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened.
      13 “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;
      14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.

      Luke 13:24
      Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.

      Podcast #1.
      This episode considers questions regarding whether Jehovah’s Witnesses ought not to leave the Watchtower organization in view of its error and corruption. And is the Watchtower Babylon the Great?

      Podcast #14.
      This program considers caller’s questions regarding how to go forward in the knowledge of the Watchtower Society’s errors. Also, email questions concerning various aspects of chronology

      • Rafaela

        Hello! Thank you for welcoming me and for the inspiring verses. Brings tears to my eyes how uplifting it’s been reading everyone’s replies to my comment. Will be listening to the podcasts now, caught my attention right away. 🙂

    • ewatchman

      Hi Rafaela. Glad you found us. Because the comments here seem to pile up pretty quick I would encourage you to paste your introduction in the Guest Book too. That way it will be more accessible long after the comments fade away.

      • Rafaela

        Hi, Robert! I’m so glad I found your website! I’ll be doing that. 🙂

    • Yuri Fisher

      Dear Rafaela

      My name is Yuri. I am from Israel. Welcome to our little spiritial congregation. All brothers and sisters here are glead to have you with us. I am sorry that you have been treated so badly by JW there. Many of us here underwent some bad treatment. I am also was treated by elders very bad. They almost forgot about my existance. All former brothers that use to be with us today not even call us. And there was no reason at all for this kind of treatment. But here I find much love and encouragment from many. They reply on my comments. We all love Jehovah and truth here. I hope you also will find spiritual encouragment from many brothers and also from daily text comments of brother King.

      May Jehovah be with you.


      • Rafaela

        Hello Yuri, it’s nice to meet you! Thank you so much for welcoming me! And I’m very sorry that you were treated badly by them too. I’ll just never comprehend this type of behavior. But hey, maybe these bad experiences led us to where we are today, all sharing Jehovah’s truth and love. And that’s the biggest blessing. May Jehovah also be with you. <3

    • sally

      Hi Rafaela and welcome from me to! You have had a hard time of it since finding the truth 🙁 I am glad you have found this site, it keeps you going! Don’t let your study sister or anyone else stop you from progressing and seeking the truth. Your experiences are sadly not unusual so take comfort in that much at least. There is an undercurrent across the organisation and we just have to deal with it. Please stick at it and stick around get support from here. Time is running short for this horrible old world and we don’t want to be giving up when we have been so so fortunate to start to get to know Jehovah our God.

      • Rafaela

        Hi Sally, thank you! I already feel so motivated going through everyone’s replies. But it’s truly sad that apparently everyone here has been treated badly by some Witnesses. And absolutely, the thought that this world system is soon going to be destroyed gives me so much peace. I know the tribulation isn’t going to be peaceful at all, but I’ll go through whatever it takes to Jehovah’s Kingdom to be established on this (currently) cruel world. Our God is good <3

    • Joel

      Welcome, welcome, welcome Rafaela! Oh, and by the way . . . did I say WELCOME!!! Lol!

      Rafaela, listen young Sis, Jehovah is concerned about your the inner person of the HEART. Yes, who you really are—inside. And from what you have shared with us, you are a terrific young lady!

      Jesus Christ, the Head of the Christian Congregation, knows how you love him and his Father, Jehovah God. I believe that is why you were led to this particular E-Watchman site. Why do I say that? Because in truth, Rafaela, there are many, and I do mean MANY, horrible anti-Jehovah’s Witnesses sites out there in cyber space; many being apostate, leading you BACK to false religious beliefs of Christendom! Never do you want to become involved and eventually entrapped into Satanic sites like those.

      You were led here for a reason. Stay here with us, the E-Watchman family of JW’s; because we ALL love Jehovah, His Son Jesus Christ, and we RESPECT His current arrangement for learning gospel truth—the Faithful and Discreet Slave. We will never lead you away from Jehovah.

      Rafaela, keep one thing in mind: Even as we have learned, on this site, that the Governing Body has made some egregious errors in end-time prophecy and their handling, or should I say “mis-handling” of child abuse cases, never let that sway you from recognizing that THIS IS THE TRUE RELIGION! It is NOT the Churches of Christendom with all their Satan god-dishonoring doctrines. No!

      So please go back to the Kingdom Hall. Start your Bible study back again (with a different sister, of course), and begin to be strengthened spiritually.

      We here on this site are always here for you—literally day and night! You are not a bother to us. Anytime you want to talk, vent, ask questions, get a better understanding of something, WE ARE ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU!

      We love you young Sis!


      • Rafaela

        Oh Joel, thank you so much!!! And unfortunately, I was led to many different websites concerning Jehovah and his Witnesses, but never took interest in reading any of them. I see it much like real life. My mom has studied the Bible with many different people from different religions. From evangelicals to catholics, she’s been studying different “versions” of Jehovah’s truth since 2010. And I was always paying attention to their studies, but was never “drawn” to them. Sometimes I would participate, but all the “hellfire talk” pushed me away. It was only in 2013 she was led to a Jehovah’s Witness Bible study. Only then we found the truth, and I had a change of heart (that I can only associate with Jehovah bringing me closer to Him) and wanted to start studying too. So, much like the websites, I could’ve gone many different ways, but by always trusting Jehovah, I was led to finding His truth. <3
        My mom is now studying with another lady, but I can't join because our time schedules don't collide. But I'll be definitely coming back to the Kingdom Hall next sunday, and will be finding a new study sister. And about my mom, she's still not baptized because of the way she was treated, which is close to my own experience. She had a study sister "give up" on her too. But I wish my mom can come back to he Kingdom Hall with me.
        I'm so, so glad I found this website, it's already been an amazing experience. I'll be definitely staying. I'm so emotional reading everyone's replies to my comments because I never thought I'd be welcomed like this. It's truly a blessing. I love you all too!!! <3

        • Joel

          Good to hear you will be attending a meeting this Sunday. Really go now! Bring your Mom too!

          We love ya! Keep associating with us here on the E-Watchman Post! We talk about all kinds of things relating to the Organization. Did you see our comments about the Watchtower’s New policy on Pedophilia in the Congregations? Come on, join in the discussion! You’re now part of the family girl!

          • Rafaela

            Ohh, there are two articles I haven’t read yet, the one about pedophilia in the congregations and a new one titled “Who will be able to stand when he appears?”! I love seeing new posts here. I’m going to school now so I’ll check in later to participate and really take everything in. <3

            • Joel

              Great! Look forward to hearing from you then!

    • Searcher

      Dear Rafaela,

      may Jehovah continue to bless your search for him, as the Scriptures promise, draw close to God and he will draw close to you. You may also find this website encouraging, there are many of us searching for truth.

    • LW

      Hello and welcome! You’re on the right track!

    • Welcome my dear Brazilian sister, to the hub of inner secrets of Jehovah! Sorry for the delay, I was out on a refreshing recharge at Zion national park in Utah. What a beautiful earth Jehovah and his son created for us to enjoy! Sometimes life gets in the way of seeing the beauty that’s all around us! Welcome again, glad you found us and hope to see more of you around here.

      • Noe Namely

        I love Utah too! We did manage to see Arches National Park and several other NP’s last summer. Did you make it to Monument Valley during your travels? Monument Valley is on the list for our next long trip west. We have always stayed on the road 3 months at a time when traveling out west. You are absolutely correct…Jehovah and his son did in deed leave us many splendid places on this earth to live on and enjoy. Seeing these places proves to me his great love for us. He did not have to make and then leave these wonderful places behind for us! I feel like he did so out of his love for us. Quite possibly he left these wonders for us to see & understand how his mighty hand can move and how destructive his wrath can be? I see them all as proof of his existence, his love & wisdom but mostly….the vast amount of patience he has with us & his patients in fulfilling his promises… both the good and the bad.. To me, they are constant reminders of his enduring patience! Thanks for posting this beautiful picture! Did you take lots of photos?

        • Hello NN, yeah it was awesome, took lots of pictures. We stayed and explored Zion national park & the Virgin River only . We only had a week, wow 3 months for you! The most I was ever able to get away with was 10 days and that was Maui. Have you ever seen Niagara Falls? Amazing and breathtaking!!

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      To Respected young Sister RAFAELA

      This is Brother Basavaraj form North Karnataka of the Southern part of India. I am a born JW and all my family members are JWs. First of all I welcome you with open hands to come and worship Jehovah through Jesus and secondly I warmly welcome you to this website which is a correct place for all the people like you and me. Well I read your comments carefully and I like to tell it is not you alone heartbroken but all in this website experienced the same including my most loved brother Robert King. I too was same like you in 2010. I have told this many a times in this website. Yet I want to tell this too you also. In 2010 I was about to leave the organization and turn into an atheist as I was losing my faith even in Jehovah and Jesus. Final somehow when I was browsing in
      the website suddenly I got Roberts website. At first I thought something apostate, but anyway I leaving the org why not see this? Let me give a last chance before leaving Jehovah the person whom I loved the most right from my birth. I continued to see this website finally I found that this website teaches the truth and this website is totally different it took for me from 2010 to 2012 to understand the whole concept then form 2012 onward I started to comment nowadays on daily basis. This website helped me to put faith on Jehovah and Jesus once gain and that is the work of Robert King yes he has done it I cannot deny. If I deny I can say I will get death punishment from Jehovah. When I found Robert’s biography and found that is has been anointed, I first doubted in 2010, but when I read his interpretation of prophecies such as Revelation, Daniel, Isaiah, Joel and Jeremiah, Habakkuk and compared it with the interpretation of WTS. Robert King’s interpretation is perfectly matching and it makes sense and logic, you see the books Revelation, Daniel, Isaiah, Joel and Jeremiah, published by WTS and compare it with Robert’s interpretation you will see the presence of holy spirit on Robert that is how you can find the work of holy spirit . You said my “reputation” at the Kingdom Hall I attended isn’t very good, because when I started going there I was the girl in pants who didn’t know better and would try to fit into friend group that were very much closed for business. Well I appreciate the feelings you poured from your heart. Jehovah
      is not silly to reject you just because you were going there as a girl in pants. Jehovah sees your heart. But look one thing do not see at the people or at the organization because they are not going to give the salvation to you but it is Jehovah through Jesus who is going to give salvation. When Jesus was on earth he knew that the Jewish system was very much corrupted, still he went to the temple to preach about the word of God because that was the only place that bore the name of Jehovah hence holy. Similarly in modern days WTS is the only organization that is bearing the name of Jehovah hence it is holy but still it is corrupted. Just as how Jewish system was destroyed in 70AD, God’s earthy organization will also be destroyed by the eighth king due to the corrupted people that is present inside the organization then we should heed to the call when you see the disgusting thing (United Nations) surrounding the holy place (Christian congregation
      Jehovah’s witnesses) run to the mountains of Judea. Wise Christians did in 1st century. So too few people will put their faith in Jesus (the rock or mountain) rather than on the directions of WTS. Did not Jesus and apostles even after the death of Jesus kept on going to temple until Rome destroyed the holy place? Yes until Jesus’ parousia we should keep on going to the holy place WTS until the Eighth king (the disgusting thing) raises against the Christian congregation. So you said in your comment I stopped attending the meetings, but never stopped loving Jehovah. So I encourage you to go to meetings don’t see at the people. But once thing I appreciate you that you said you never stopped loving Jehovah that’s great!!! Yes come what may even death let’s hold on our faith and love on Jehovah through Jesus. This is the truth what I learned from Robert King. So I too was irregular to meetings in 2010, I was going to meetings to please my wife as she was/is a very good woman and a staunch JW as her father (my father-in-law) and her two own brothers are elders in my congregation hence she was not open to listen anything form anyone, but somehow from 2014 I could able to convince her that 1914 is false, later I came to know that she herself had that doubt. Now I and my wife completely eliminate the 1914 to our bible studies by skipping the chapter or paragraphs that deals with 1914 in the teach book. Many a times we teach to our students what we study in e-watchman’s website and many a times I give answers in the Watch tower study from this website they don’t ask me back because my father in law himself is the watchtower study conductor. Now I am regular to meetings and field service not for the sake of my wife but for Jehovah and Jesus. Yes we can tell the basic truth to the people without teaching them about 1914. All this is because of Jehovah’s help through Jesus by making me to come in contact with e-watchman’s website back in 2010. I once again encourage you to go to meetings
      and warmly invite to keep on regularly stay in this website just as we are. May Jehovah and Jesus bless you and get baptized soon. Read e-watchman’s prophecies you will find the truth. With warm and loving affection from your elder brother and my wife from India.
      Basavaraj of North Karnataka Hubli Congregation of Jehovah’s witnesses.

    • Passi from B.C

      Welcome Rafaela 🙂

      • Joseph Stephan

        Rafaela is MIA, hopefully she is ok.

  • Robert do you think there’s any real truth to this internet control?

    • ewatchman

      It looks like the Internet is going to be censured. I expect it. Of course, in the event of a takedown of the power grid in the US, which would no doubt happen in the event of a shooting war between the US and Russia and China, having Internet will be the least of our concerns.

      • thank you I understand but what I am most concerned about is our on line gathering here on the Ewatchman. I use the internet to learn and gather information and compare such information. true much of the nonsense on the internet is propaganda but still I found it to be a valuable tool for biblical knowledge. but I am sure though if the internet does go down Jehovah will eventually give us direction but the thought of losing the ability to come here and share Jehovah’s word is heart breaking to say the least. now more then ever we all really need to keep on taking in an accurate knowledge and retain what we have all learned because the time of the end is nearly upon us.

        • Joyce Haze

          Dear Leonard, I do agree, the thought of losing access to Roberts site, with his great knowledge & understanding of scripture. His ability to explain and breakdown each topic of the commentary has certainly helped me to gain much understanding. In nine months time to have a grasp of the meaning of the soon to be fulfillment of end time prophesy. What In the past was completely a huge fog has become much more clear!! In the past whatever I did was more duty than joy. I feel such passion to become close to JEHOVAH and his beloved Son, CHRIST JESUS. I often feel there are not enough hours in a day to give praise, to tell others, to share the wonderful things I can’t keep to myself! The more we know about His Glorious Kingdom, all his ways, it’s difficult to contain it. The Internet has been a great tool in realizing the length Satan has gone in his effort to destroy any semblance of goodness or decency on the very earth that JEHOVAH created for the beauty of all to enjoy. It helps me to compare the world events to prophesy which explains down to the tiniest detail. It amazes me the accuracy, although it should’nt as JEHOVAH in all his Love and Wisdom knows all things, long before it becomes evident to us, mere specks of dust. Amazing!!! This old world is most definitely passing away and His glorious kingdom is at hand. Amen, to that!

          • well lets consider the first apostles of jesus Christ. in those days there was no internet they preached from city to city they traveled great lengths to spread the good news and lets not forget about pauls trials because the time is very near that we are facing the very same trials. there will be a world war 3 limited perhaps but still there likely may not be tv or the internet or even a news paper to read but consider the scriptures.

            1 Corinthians 8:3
            3 But if anyone loves God, this one is known by him.

            2 Timothy 2:19
            19 Despite that, the solid foundation of God remains standing, having this seal, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him,” and, “Let everyone calling on the name of Jehovah renounce unrighteousness.”

            Jeremiah 17:10
            10 I, Jehovah, am searching the heart,
            Examining the innermost thoughts,
            To give to each one according to his ways,
            According to the fruitage of his works.

            1 Corinthians 3:11
            11 For no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

            1 Peter 2:6
            6 For it says in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a chosen stone, a precious foundation cornerstone, and no one exercising faith in it will ever be disappointed.”

            Acts 20:29, 30
            29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.

            2 Timothy 3:1
            3 But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.

            1 Corinthians 15:58
            58 Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always having plenty to do in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in connection with the Lord.

            Psalm 37:31
            31 The law of his God is in his heart; His steps will not falter.

            no matter what happens in this wicked system of things all we need to be concerned with is keeping Jehovah’s laws written in our hearts and our minds and no government or man can ever take that away from Jehovah’s people. yes we could be put to death eventually but since we are all going to die anyway lets try and die faithfully as the apostles did in those days. lets always keep Jehovah in our hearts and minds and not worry about the things of the world but always keep on the watch.

            Matthew 6:25
            25 “On this account I say to you: Stop being anxious about your lives as to what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your bodies as to what you will wear. Does not life mean more than food and the body than clothing?

            Matthew 24:42
            42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.

          • just a thought. another thing we should all do is download and print out Roberts book Jehovah has become king. we should all also print out for safe keeping and later use all of Roberts articles and commentary’s and if at all possible download all of Roberts podcasts and videos. it sounds like a lot of work but when you consider the coming trials and tribulations upon the world Jehovah’s words and promises are all we have and we can then keep on sharing with all those whom are lost or will listen. lets face it the watchtower is going down and many hundreds of thousands will be stumbled and ready to give up there faith and there may not be any public broadcasting or public social media of any kind and all the work we save on paper along with the bible of course we may be able to still reach many many stumbled brothers and sisters and present all of brother Roberts blessed works and efforts to all whom will listen. keep in mind when the watchtower goes down our fellow brothers and sisters will look for answers and they wont get any from the watchtower G/B so they will need refuge they will need answers and it is our duty to see to it that they have those answers so they do not lose faith but come to the real truth and Jehovah’s coming judgments.

            • Joyce Haze

              Dear Leonard, thank you for your reply. Thank you also for the many faith building Scriptures that keep us strong in JEHOVAHS Love and Mercy! JESUS did warn of the the deception and those very ones who were placed in positions of responsibility, who would prove unfaithful to His people. I agree, all the knowledge we can attain now will surely prove to be a benefit to all Gods people who have became lost, confused with no where to turn in the dark days to come, how great a blessing to be able to share, love and lift up all those confused and broken hearted! I recall my shock and sadness as to what I was able to discern concerning the goings on in the society, all the things we trusted in as pure truth. A good lesson I suppose for all, we can’t rely solely on others to dictate The truth of God but must individually take responsibility through our own study, reasoning and prayer! Robert has been a true blessing in that he has shared his love and truth of JEHOVAH, helped many to come to a much clearer and solid understanding of Gods word. I would be saddened at the loss of this little group of friends who are here each and every day (or nearly) to share in giving praise to our heavenly FATHER, as well His perfect Son! Hope this little group can hang on awhile longer and JEHOVAH finds pleasure in our attempts to do his will.

            • no worries have faith and our heavenly father Jehovah will make the way out.

          • LW

            Well said Joyce!

            This isn’t the most accurate but hopefully this sums up the glorious ending we know to be true:


      • and
        get blocked on some public WiFi hotspots ive experienced

      • unless street-lights stay working or have backup, driving probably
        wont be an option

      • Francis Bencharles

        We will have something better than the internet, we will have the angels (beside us) directing us where to go, what to do and who to talk to as Phillip did in Acts 8. Parousia, standing beside.

  • 1914for100Alex

    Can anyone give me a rundown of how things work at the Kingdom Hall nowadays? When I used to go it was Sun, Tues, Thurs. From what I’ve seen on here it looks like maybe it’s only two times a week now? How long are the meetings on each day and are the talks the same throughout the U.S. for Sundays? Do they post what the talks are going to be about? I kind of lost it last night and filled my girlfriend in on some stuff. She knows I used to be a Witness, but that’s about it. I’ve never talked to her about what I’ve seen on here but we were talking about world events last night and I couldn’t contain myself. She knew something was wrong so I had to tell her what it was. She’s agreed to study the Bible with me, and said she’d be willing to possibly go to the meetings, but I’m worried it’s just to make me happy. I hope there’s more to it eventually. I hope I can get through to her before it’s too late. Any help on how to prepare for what to expect if we do go would be appreciated. And sorry for the long off topic post Robert, but I really need the help. Thanks.

    • im on the phone version more now and the forum doesnt work well for me otherwise id use it more myself

  • Moving Ahead with the WTS appears to mean moving backwards in time to the 70s if the latest Broadcasting (October) is anything to go by. Even though the September 2016 (Study Edition) mentions briefly that “even some appointed men have beards”, Mr. Lett emphasised yet again that beards can stumble people (only the Governing Body or other Americans I guess as I’ve yet to meet a JW from the UK who is truly stumbled by someone having a beard) so we shouldn’t insist on our rights by having one!
    Crazy that a moustache is allowed as it grows on the same place but people that are stumbled by that just have to put up with it so personal preference takes preference in that instance! Hypocrisy at its best!
    My friend in just got his privileges removed because he refused to shave his beard off. Treated like a sinner because a group of men imitating the Pharisees decided they didn’t like beards in their congregation. Where’s the love? It’s people like that that end up driving brothers like my friend out of the organisation.
    So moving ahead? I think not!

    • e.v.g

      The leadership of JW’s are the channel between God and men, JW’s are always ready for the new instructions, when ww3 begins it will not be the exception, jw’s will think that they will have the answers but surprise they become like a medium’s channeler’s, some of them will not believe that is Christ true presence. (By the way the father image makes me laugh)


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  • Marisa Gomez

    No es justo que solo esten en ingles los episodios, pues soy latina y hablo español, soy testigo de Jehova pero me encantan los podcast de Robert. Por favor ayuda……quiero escuchar en mi idioma los episodios.

    • Cocheta

      No, no es justo, pero tal vez el hermano que traduce los artículos al español podrá ayudarle con una traducción de los podcasts.
      No sé su nombre, pero si envía un correo electrónico a Brother Robert puede decirle el nombre.
      Bienvenido a este sitio, Marisa, un placer conocerte

      • Marisa Gomez

        Gracias, mi nombre es Marisa, soy testigo de Jehova y vivo en Quto Ecuador.

  • Francis Bencharles


    If you feel comfortable at the Kingdom Hall, continue going there and make a sincere attempt to find ones that you can draw close to that appear to love Jehovah and Jesus. Also, you can seek friendship and fellowship here. Cultivate a pure heart from here on and keep reading your Bible. I didn’t see your original post till today.


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