Kingdom Bulletin #8

//Kingdom Bulletin #8



As reported in the 2014 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, this past July (2013) the Governing Body announced to the Bethel family at their morning worship service that the Society is moving forward with its intention to relocate the Watchtower’s world headquarters from Brooklyn to Warwick, New York. Most of the properties in Brooklyn have apparently already been sold and the staging area at Tuxedo is far along in the renovation process. 

In a promotional video on the site individual members of the Governing Body have all given the move their blessing and assured all of Jehovah’s Witnesses that the project has been directed by Jehovah. But perhaps it would be more prudent and discreet on their part to wait until the venture is actually completed, instead of presuming that God is unreservedly behind it. 

Besides, in reality the Governing Body is not even the decision-maker in such matters. Only the Watchtower Society’s board of directors has the legal authority to buy or sell properties owned by the corporations. And as announced in the January 15, 2001, Watchtower, since the Annual Meeting of the year 2000 no member of the Governing Body will even sit on the board. In that regard the term “governing body” is a misnomer since it has no legal authority to authorize the purchase or sale of anything belonging to the numerous corporations under Watchtower Society umbrella. 

Although the Governing Body may happen to agree with the board on the matter, their approval is not necessary and it is disingenuous of them to give the public and Jehovah’s Witnesses the impression that the Warwick project was their decision to make. The unspoken but pertinent question is: Who is governing whom? 

Be that as it may, although expressing their conviction that the project is the will of Jehovah, neither the yearbook nor the video offered any valid reason for the massive undertaking, which will ultimately depend upon the hard work of thousands of humble volunteers to accomplish.   

But why, after having a presence for more than a century in the so-called “city of churches” and being a prominent fixture on the Brooklyn waterfront and the Manhattan skyline, is the Bethel family retiring to the obscurity of the countryside? And what about the spiritually upbuilding influence the hundreds of Bethelites have on the brothers and sisters in the many congregations they attend throughout the New York City area? Is the proposed move really what is in the best interests of the kingdom, as expressed by one Governing Body member? Or is there a human motive involved? 

If the move is motivated by the quest for money – and no doubt the Society stands to make a handsome profit on the sale of the highly-prized, even coveted, Brooklyn properties – then, would not that be an affront to God? After all, ought something once dedicated to Jehovah God be sold off like common real estate?  Indeed, is it not the case – as outlined in the 22nd chapter of Ezekiel – the priests of Jehovah have failed to make a distinction between what is common and what is holy? 

Could it be that the officers of the Society have been overreached by the Tempter – tantalized by the prospect of a billion dollar deal – and induced by the Devil to sell that which had formerly been solemnly committed, yes, dedicated to the sole service of Jehovah God? 

Although the move has been in the works for several years is it perhaps the pressure of dwindling donations and the prospect of an oncoming Tsunami wave of lawsuits in the wake of the stunning multi-million dollar judgment against the organization in the Candace Conti case factors in the sale? Is it not true that the Society’s lawyers have already demonstrated their willingness to profane what is holy when they unsuccessfully attempted to hock kingdom property by offering up the entire Patterson complex as security in lieu of paying a costly annual premium on a bond, which had been ordered by the judge in the case? (PDF court document

And ought we suppose that Christ will not require an accounting of those who have now auctioned off the “house of God” (Bethel) to the highest bidder? 

And why is it, on the one hand the Society urges Jehovah’s Witnesses to forego acquiring personal luxuries and riches in view of the nearness of the end, and at the same time it has committed the brothers and their families from the regional building committees to make great personal sacrifices in order to build a luxurious new headquarters? 

The letter of James has a specific message for Christians who trust in riches and live in luxurious style by the toil of the unpaid: “Come, now, you rich men, weep, howling over your miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted, and your outer garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and silver are rusted away, and their rust will be as a witness against you and will eat up your fleshy parts. Something like fire is what you have stored up in the last days. Look! The wages due the workers who harvested your fields but which are held up by you, keep crying out, and the calls for help on the part of the reapers have entered into the ears of Jehovah of armies. You have lived in luxury upon the earth and have gone in for sensual pleasure. You have fattened your hearts on the day of slaughter.” 

Although Jehovah’s Witnesses earnestly believe that the last days began in 1914, obviously the judgment foretold in James has not come about, yet. The obvious reason why it has not is that the last days have not begun. The leadership of the Watchtower Society has for many decades promoted a false parousia and brought all of Jehovah’s Witnesses under a “deluding influence,” as the recently revised NWT appropriately reworded the former phrase: “an operation of error.” 

And at this critical phase – as the Anglo-American beast seems destined to instigate a global conflict far surpassing the horrors of the previous world wars – the faceless board of directors of the Watchtower Society have sold off Bethel and the Governing Body has committed God’s people to build a new headquarters for itself, cloistered in the idyllic New York countryside, far from the hubbub and grime of the city. Truly, they have stored up the fire of Jehovah’s wrath.  As outlined in the letter penned by James, we may expect the Society’s riches to be consumed in the hyperinflationary conflagration soon to be unleashed in the last days. 

The 19th chapter of Isaiah is an extraordinary prophecy, ostensibly denouncing the ancient land of the Pharaohs – Egypt, but by extension applying to the United States. Likewise, four chapters of Ezekiel are devoted to expressing the same judgments of Jehovah. (Chapters 29-32) 

The “visionaries” of Bethel recognize that Egypt has prophetic significance beyond the time of the prophets, but they do not understand the true significance of it. That is because the very same prophecy of Isaiah foretold: “For Jehovah has poured a spirit of deep sleep on you; he has closed your eyes, the prophets, and he has covered your heads, the visionaries. Every vision becomes for you like the words of a sealed book.” 


As an example of Bethel’s blindness and inability to coherently decipher the meaning of the prophecies and connect them to reality, consider the hodgepodge of interpretations connected to “Egypt.” For instance, although the Watchtower’s “visionaries” have discerned that the “Egypt” of Daniel 11:42-43 represents the American king of the south by virtue of the fact that the Egypt of the ptolemies and Cleopatra was the original king of the south; nevertheless, the Watchtower teaches that the prophecy earmarked for the time of the end was fulfilled back during the Cold War. Supposedly America was bankrupted in the arms race with the USSR, which, of course, is nonsense – completely reverse of actual historical reality. 

And as regards the aforementioned span of chapters in Ezekiel regarding Egypt, the Society’s “prophets” recognize that the series of prophecies have significance for the judgment to come, but instead of recognizing the parallel with the king of the south the Watchtower claims that “Egypt” symbolizes every nation on earth, instead of the most prominent one. This is spite of the fact that Jehovah beautifully illustrates the relationship of “Egypt” to all other nations by likening it to a most majestic cedar that towers over all the lesser trees in the garden of God – the lesser trees symbolizing all the other nations in relation to the most powerful one. 

Similarly, the Watchtower has declared the “Egypt” in the 19th chapter of Isaiah to represent Satan’s entire world. And their commentary on Isaiah sees no significance in the fact that Egypt is delivered up to a “hard master,” which is also portrayed in Daniel and Ezekiel, and is when God’s people cry out to him for deliverance. Even more absurd, the prophetic city called The City of Tearing Down is said to symbolize Jehovah’s Witnesses, who have supposedly, somehow, torn down Satan’s system. 

Not only that, but supposedly the seventh head of the wild beast received its sword stroke and revived back during the First World War. Sadly, Jehovah’s Witnesses seem to be oblivious to the fact the seventh head is purported to be the Anglo-American duo and by all accounts they were victorious in the Great War! 

Bethel’s institutional seers have made an absolute mess of God’s prophetic word and have obscured the reality of the judgment to come. And to be sure, since Jehovah himself has concealed these matters from them there is no earthly power that can enlighten them. 

But we may be certain that the true interpretation of the prophecies is not nearly so disharmonious and disconnected from reality. Just as the massive cedar is depicted as towering over all the other tree-like nations, so too, America is by all accounts the greatest nation on earth – now considered to be the sole superpower. And just as the despot of the nations toppled the towering tree of prophecy the American republic will be subverted and destroyed in the near future! No wonder the prophecies depict the people of the world being stunned at Egypt’s sudden fall. 

Now for the true interpretation of the prophecy in the 19th chapter of Isaiah and why it is being stated that the Warwick project will ultimately fail. 

Just as Egypt was the original king of the south in the break up of Alexander’s empire and thereafter represents the king of the south during the time of the end, Egypt was also the first world power of Bible prophecy – comprising one of the heads of the seven-headed beast of Revelation – and being the original it may therefore come to symbolize the other powers that succeed it. For example, Revelation 11:8 refers to the great city in a spiritual sense as being Sodom and Egypt, where the Lord was also impaled. Obviously Jesus was not literally put to death in Egypt. However, he was executed by officials acting under the authority of the Roman Empire, which, in prophecy, is part of the same beastly system. The Watchtower’s fictional commentary on Revelation notwithstanding, we may also expect the two anointed witnesses to be executed by the executive order of “Egypt” during the actual grand climax of the sacred secret of God. 

Just as Egypt at times served as a benefactor for God’s people – Joseph and Mary even sought safe haven there with the child God had entrusted to them – so too, America has similarly served as a secure place where Jehovah’s Witnesses have been able to thrive. But all of that will change when God delivers up the nation to a “hard master.” 

Isaiah 19:22 states that “Jehovah will strike Egypt, striking it and healing it…” This corresponds to the sword stroke upon the beast and its return from the abyss. The “Assyrian” represents the eighth king, and both “Egypt” and “Assyria” will factor into the accomplishment of Jehovah’s work, which is why the chapter concludes by saying: “Blessed be my people, Egypt, and the work of my hands, Assyria, and my inheritance, Israel.” 

“The City of Tearing Down” on the border of “Egypt,” where an altar to Jehovah is erected by those “swearing loyalty to Jehovah” is New York City. And Bethel serves as the prominent “pillar” erected to Jehovah’s name by those dedicated to him. It is appropriately symbolized as “The City of Tearing Down” because New York is home to Wall Street, which is an appendage of the City of London and an imperial apparatus for looting and ultimately tearing down America. If anyone thinks that is an exaggeration simply consider recent history, and the fact that the entire financial system came within 48 hours of completely disintegrating. Of course, the threatened collapse was merely a scheme to loot taxpayers to keep the system solvent for a few more years and trillions went to the banks in London. But no one should doubt that the gigantic Wall Street and City of London banks have the power to sink the United States into a sea of debt. 

Not only is New York home to the empire’s financial pirates, but the city also serves as the world headquarters for the United Nations. And by all accounts the intentions of the founders and promoters of the UN is for it to eventually supplant national sovereignties – to serve as a world government. Once the leading nations of the world are torn down the United Nations will undoubtedly be catapulted into the vacuum of power. And the “hard master” will briefly reign. 

It is in that setting that Jehovah sends a grand savior – Christ. 

Because of my unique understanding of this fascinating prophecy I can say with the certainty of a prophet that the Watchtower’s intended move will not occur – that the “altar” and “pillar” by the border of Egypt represents the present Brooklyn Bethel. The reason the project is doomed is because “Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt” – soon!

Kingdom Bulletin#8 (PDF)

2016-12-08T15:11:54+00:00 February 25th, 2014|Bulletins|85 Comments
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    • D34D 4L!3N

      ok – posted on twitter 🙂

  • 1 Peter 2:8

    8 and “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” They are stumbling because they are disobedient to the word. To this very end they were appointed.

  • Rose Castro

    I feel so fortunate to have found out all of this. Eventhough I am now in limbo because I do not know where to go or what to do, I trust that Jehovah God will guide me and let me know what to do next…

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Brother Robert gave some good encouragement concerning your thought on the second half of podcasts 65.

    • 1 Corinthians 10:13 1 Corinthians 10:13

      13 No temptation has come upon you except what is common to men.+ But God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear,+ but along with the temptation he will also make the way out so that you may be able to endure it.+
      Psalm 4:5

      5 Offer the sacrifices of righteousness, And trust in Jehovah.

      Isaiah 26:4

      4 Trust in Jehovah forever, For Jah Jehovah is the eternal Rock.

      Psalm 115:11

      11 You who fear Jehovah, trust in Jehovah —He is their help and their shield.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        The watchtower has become like most other religions in that they prey on the impoverished mind and empty stomach.
        And what they don’t realize is that Jehovah is simply going to vomit them out because of their wicked deeds. Revelation 3:14-17

        he said: “As for these things that you now see, the days will come when not a stone will be left upon a stone and not be thrown down.
        Luke 21:6.

        They will dash you and your children within you to the ground, and they will not leave a stone upon a stone in you, because you did not discern the time of your being inspected.” Luke 19:44

  • you can speak with the active JWS about many things but i have learned the one thing you can not speak of with them is the false 1914 doctrine. if you bring this subject up to them and call it false they act like that old movie invasion of the body snatcher they will stand there look at you as if there ready to point you out and screech!!!

  • is it ok to rob Jehovah? i don’t think so

    . Luke 20:25
    25 He said to them: “By all means, then, pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar but God’s things to God.”

    i understand that the watchtower and tract society are under this operation of error a deluding influence but it really hurts and bothers me that so many are being misled and no matter how hard you try and give them real truth they clam up and run back to the watchtower. i can only hope and pray that maybe just maybe atleast one had listened to what i had spoke of concerning what the real truth is. in speaking with a few of the active JWS i never brought up your name i always told them no i was never baptized but i can reason apon scripture and in trying to do so with some of these active JWS i never got anywhere with them. they took my number for a bible study on two Occasions but never got back to me? i thought this very strange was it something i said? lol.

    • Rose Castro

      I have been studying with Jws for a long while now. I was brought up in the truth, and most of my family members are Jws. However, I am not baptized. I have never been able to make it pass unbaptized publisher. A question has been on my mind since I started reading Mr King’s book, and listening to his talks on the videos. Do I keep going with my study? How do I become baptized now? Have you thought about these things? I’m asking you because you are also unbaptized. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

      • I was never baptized ether I studied much in the 80s but after that I got cought up in this wicked system just working all the time but the truth never left me and even though I was never baptized I questioned some of the watchtowers actions and I was told the light will get brighter and brighter but I could not simply except that there was no reasoning in that. finaly my brother stumbled apon Robert kings site and we got answers we got truth! and I have been studying and making changes in my life for Jehovah and I must say yes it was very hard but I feel much better living by jehovahs word and trying to apply his will in all things. but don’t feel left behind or think you can not move forward because you were not baptized keep taking in an accurate knowledge keep praying to Jehovah draw close to him and he will draw close to you. I cant remember where the scripture is but I think it says Jehovah can baptize one by heart if he wants to. well don’t give up you keep fighting the fine fight. may Jehovah bless your search for truth and may he bless you with strength.

        Romans 12:2

        2 And stop being molded by this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

        • Rose Castro

          Oh you’re the
          best! Thanks for taking the time and giving me all this input and information
          from Mr. King’s site. I just barely found his site, so I am in the
          process of watching as many videos as I can, and also the podcasts and
          readings. I am currently studying with Jws, and after thinking about it,
          and listening to the podcast #65, I’ve decided to go ahead and continue with my
          study. I really feel Jehovah is guiding me back to him. Recently,
          after watching apostates’ videos, I’ve become so disillusioned and discouraged.
          I got caught up in their anger, and could not deal with their pessimism
          for the future, and their taking Jehovah “out of the equation.”
          So, even though, at times, I almost stopped believing in a God and was
          terribly confused, I think finding Mr. Kings’ site was a response to my
          prayers. Thank you Leonard, for your wonderful and caring help!
          PS. I do understand why apostates are angry, but I could never stop thinking about Jehovah and how important his word has always been to me.

          • @ Aura Olivas I’m very happy to have been some help to you and I’m most happy you have decided to continue your studies 🙂 remember the golden rule’

            Zephaniah 2:3

            3 Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.

            as you go through Robert kings videos vodcast and podcast don’t try to take everything in all at once as to not over load your self but take your time and give your self a chance to absorb all the information you are taking in. and heres a link to Robert kings question page here you can leave Robert a question in writing or by voice message if theres a subject that you need help to better understand look through Roberts great articles and leave him a question or you can ask me and I will do my best to try and help. may Jehovah be with you and may Jehovah bless your search for truth.

          • D34D 4L!3N

            let us know your progress if youre able to get dunked in water.

            what Leonard said was very excellent advice and hope you do well.

            i want you to remember this Rose, if it turns out you do not get dunked in water, do not let that bother you during the tribulation. you are Jehovah’s witness by his utterance. it is your heart condition towards him that will give you life. he well knows who beling to him and he does not need a pool of water and ceremony to dictate that for him.

            that being said, follow Leonard’s advice aggressively to get it done and may your drawing close to Jehovah prove he has drawn close to you.

            Proverbs 4:23
            Isaiah 1:11…14…
            Amos 5:21-24
            Micah 6:8
            Matthew 3:13-15

            (like all my post; may be subject to future adding/editing)

            • Rose Castro

              I was feeling pretty down and needed you guys’ support. Thanks for writing this post. I am going through a tough time now. I am again questioning everything and anything. Plus, even though I am no longer watching any ex-jws videos because, although they do have a point, they are generally very negative and hateful. Then, I had one of them do a very humiliating video about me! For some reason, I am now being picked on and ridicule. I am trying to get the video taken down by YouTube, however, I do not know whether it will work. Thanks for your encouragement!

            • ewatchman

              The exJW crowd are some of the nastiest and stupidest people on the planet. Here’s something Jesus said that you might find encouraging: “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.”

            • I can’t stomach any of the ex-jw stuff, makes me ill and sad that they lost their way. And there is no helping them either. I would put ex-jw stuff on the same level as pornography. Stay away

            • have you put in a complaint about the humiliating video? to my knowledge who ever put the video up should have your consent if you are in the video or if your name or any other personal information is in that video but if you never consented to this then its my understanding youtube will remove that video and possibly delete the account the video was posted on. i think the best thing you can do is not watch any of those xJW videos many are so negative and discouraging and serve no good purpose what so ever except to serve the anger of those who made the videos. you are in a very delicate situation right now you are seeking to be baptized and you are continuing your studies and i can reassure you that satan will use everything he can to stumble you and get in your way. satan would love nothing more then to get you to question your faith and put aside your studies satan would love nothing more then to get you to live in his world and most of all satan would really love it if he was able to sever your relationship with Jehovah him self. these are satan’s goals for you and all of mankind really but don’t give in keep your self in prayer to Jehovah ask the father for strength and direction do not lose site of taking in an accurate knowledge keep your studies going no matter what happens do not lose site of your goals to be baptized. please don’t let your self be brought down by the world rose remember when you question ether your faith or your studies just remember that this wicked world really is soon to end all we have to look forward to is the kingdom of Jehovah our heavenly father and most of all please remember rose how much Jehovah loves you and wants to have a relationship with you do not let anything take that away from you.

              1 John 3:1

              3 See what sort of love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are. That is why the world does not know us, because it has not come to know him.
              Matthew 4:4

              4 But he answered: “It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’”

              Psalm 117:2

              2 For his loyal love toward us is great; The faithfulness of Jehovah endures forever. Praise Jah!

            • Rose Castro

              Yes I did. Just told you what happened. Is anyone here has any advice on how to get YouTube to remove this video? I just got an e-mail from them saying that they “are unable to find a violation”! I’ve told them countless times that my actual legal name is being used in the video and that this guy did not have my authorization to use our conversation on this video. Yet, they are now refusing to take it down. If anyone has had a similar experience like this with ex-jws, or has any other ideas on how I should procede, I’d really appreciate it! 😀
              PS. I had stopped watching ex-jws. I found out about the video because someone e-mailed me the link to it. I guess they wanted me to know what this guy had done. I wish I had not opened that link…

            • D34D 4L!3N

              i dont know what you can do to remove it. but thers an old saying – bad publicity is good publicity. people have made stipid videos about even Robert but if anyone in true good heart is really looking for the truth the’ll obviously realize any falseality with some trash talkin video when they see the good work of Robert in his videos and site just like they will see by your works too. probly just going to have to let it be and dont let it stop you from advertizing more truth. just be prepared to be picked on when you practice explaining scriprure cause its going to happen just like it has with the rest of us here. looks like your part of the club.

            • ewatchman

              I wouldn’t spend too much time or energy worrying about it. Let them have their say. They ain’t gonna be around very much longer anyway.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              its too bad that happened of course. being one of Jehovah’s followers it comes with the package. you have to get used to it and even expect it. thats why the scripture says to be cautious as snakes. Matt 10:16 was writen just for reasions like that cos now you cant rewind time to make it never happen, so now its sucking the energy out of you and very time consuming using up your time that could have been used being happyier on other things. probly a difficult task havin it removed but hope it happens. getting things off the intervnet can be like trying to remove pee from a swiming pool. you say for some reason but know the reason is because you are working on truth and this world will hate anyone who is for the truth. this world killed the greatest man who ever lived and its not going to like us anymore then Jesus or treat us any better.

      • although I am not baptized it is my goal to seek a bible study with a baptized JW. it is my goal to become baptized one day. I know I have said that it may be possible that Jehovah can baptize a person by heart but never the less you should seek a bible study with a baptized JW. seek baptism keep studying keep taking in an accurate knowledge through a bible study with a JW and by all means always and continually keep taking in spiritual food. you may or may not agree with watchtower policy at times but never let that keep you from seeking baptism and continually pursuing a bible study with a baptized JW. I would not want to stumble you in any way and this is the best advice I can give you but if theres something more you need to know heres a link to Robert kings question page you can write your question or ask your question by voice message and I recommend this podcast keep seeking Jehovah pray on matters and ask Jehovah for direction. here are some scriptures that often come to mind I hope they will help you to reflect on jehovahs word as well.

        Deuteronomy 8:3

        3 So he humbled you and let you go hungry and fed you with the manna, which neither you had known nor your fathers had known, in order to make you know that man does not live by bread alone but man lives by every expression from Jehovah’s mouth.

        Matthew 6:33

        33 “Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.

        John 3:16

        16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
        may Jehovah bless you with truth and direction.

      • @ Aura Olivas here are three videos by Robert king. I think they may be helpful to you if you havnt already seen them please give them a view and listen to them.

      • @ Aura Olivas

        great videos very helpful information. I hope they help you to have a better understanding.

  • “Because of my unique understanding of this fascinating prophecy I can say with the certainty of a prophet that the Watchtower’s intended move will not occur – that the “altar” and “pillar” by the border of Egypt represents the present Brooklyn Bethel. The reason the project is doomed is because “Jehovah is riding on a swift cloud and is coming into Egypt” – soon!”

    Was looking at and thought Id share that Roberts “unique understanding” is closer to being shown as a lie! I cant speak for Yhwh about how much time is left before Gods Kingdom begins,but some parts of the new HQ building are 4 months ahead of schedule. This is what happens when an Anointed presumptuously takes on a role thats not given him. Robert King is NOT Gods prophet.

    • ewatchman

      Well, well, well – looky here! You are a little premature in discounting the possibility of the prophecy meaning what I have indicated, aren’t you? In the present environment 8 months is a long time.

      Maybe you don’t keep up with current events, but just to bring you up-to-date, the global financial system is collapsing and the Lords of London have unleashed the dogs of war, converging in the Middle East, and right on cue the nations are talking about making peace. I am sticking to my “unique understanding.”

      • e.v.g

        I guess that he is sleeping and don’t want to be awakened from his sweet dream.

        • D34D 4L!3N

          id like to go to sleep an not wake up, as long as my dreams are nice. :/ sick of this system and i dont have to deal with myself either

          • e.v.g

            Or probably you have the opportunity to wake up and serve Jehovah as long as you can, life is a privilege, just look at the example of Jesus.

          • e.v.g

            Happiness does not depend on what we can get but rather what we can offer, our on flesh is a hindrance, always thinking of our own satisfaction.
            God will bless those who make the effort.

            • e.v.g

              It is not easy to deal with this system or worse with the attitude in the congregation , can you imagine Jesus saying: Father please take me away from these fools and stubborn people!!!…, we have to imitate his courage, as for me i sit down in the chair and i get to listen to the program, it is better than go to the pub or the table dance or drink beer at home to get drunk…. and then I think…Oh yeah!!! keep talking.

            • D34D 4L!3N

              he did ask. Ha. :p

    • D34D 4L!3N

      thanks for sharing that, as if the Watchman’s Post’ purpose itsnt already consistently up to date with the news about Jehovah’s people, thanks

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      Yes I believe you! Wait, why would I? What credibility do you have? You can’t even show your face! The problem with bitter haters like you is that you don’t even bother to check the news before you come back here and comment! Don’t you even see the news articles he tweets? Haven’t heard of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists declaring that we are “3 minutes” to doomsday? How come my facebook page is filled with news after news from the alternative media to the mainstream media and it’s all about WORLD WAR 3 and ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! I pity you, I really do. You use God’s name in vain! Posing as someone who is deeply concerned with the truth when you yourself is a pretentious phony bitter hater of the truth! Jworg supporter you really are. You are feel free to be doomed with your GB masters who are to soon weep and gnash their teeth when everything else false apart! Stop talking! Let Jehovah be the judge! Let’s wait and see.

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      Oh I pity the masters of Bethel… They have been rushing just to finish their doomed project just as to prove brother Robert wrong. In a span of a year I have heard person after person boast of how the project is expected to be finished earlier than expected. Ok I mean yes they could finish it faster that is true, after all THEY’VE GOT ALL OUR DONATIONS and they’ve kicked out most of the brothers and sisters who are liabilities to them after using them for decades in Bethels around the world. They haven’t even paid much to abuse victims, all they do is run away and try to escape from their liabilities so I am very sure that the Governing Body’s pocket is very fat (is it just their pockets that is fat? lol Ezekiel 34) Ok maybe Warwick will be finished after all but ONLY TO COLLAPSE MOMENTS LATER because the GB has rushed it too much, it is like building in the sand. Hahaha I mean it doesn’t probably need a big bad wolf to blow it down, it might just fall on it’s own! LOL

    • D34D 4L!3N

      you really need to look at whats been going on in the world, its not just the Watchtower thats going to have problems. if you take the time and read the news. most of Jehovah’s witnesses are unawear whats going on in the world also so its going to shock them…

  • Song of Hannah

    Ezekiel 17:1 The word of Jehovah again came to me, saying: 2 “Son of man, tell a riddle and relate a proverb about the house of Israel. 3 You must say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “The great eagle, with great wings, long pinions, and full, colorful plumage, came to Lebʹa·non and took the top of the cedar. 4 He plucked off its topmost shoot and brought it to the land of traders and set it down in a city of traders. 5 He then took some of the seed of the land and put it in a fertile field. He planted it like a willow by abundant waters. 6 So it sprouted and became a low, sprawling vine with its foliage facing inward and its roots growing under it. Thus it became a vine and produced shoots and sent out branches. 7 “‘“And there came another great eagle, with great wings and large pinions. This vine then stretched its roots eagerly toward him, away from the garden beds where it was planted, and it sent out its foliage toward him so that he would irrigate it. 8 It had already been planted in a good field near abundant waters, in order to produce branches, tobear fruit, and to become a majestic vine.”’ 9 “Say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Will it prosper? Will someone not tear out its roots and make its fruit rot and cause its sprouts to wither? It will become so dry that neither a strong arm nor many people will be needed to pull it up by the roots. 10 Although it is transplanted, will it prosper? Will it not dry up completely when the east wind blows on it? It will dry up in the garden bed where it sprouted.”’”

    • D34D 4L!3N

      remimds me about the scripture when Jesus taked about eagles gathering we discussed on Roberts site some months back. but its true huh, you can really see a parallel in that scripture with the roots of the organization up to today and we know its gunna dry up with Egypt aka the U.S.

    • D34D 4L!3N

      i like the end part, it reminds me of Roberts article –
      Many First Will Be Last, and the Last First let us know if you have any thoughts Robert. seems thats a fitting parallel no?
      “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “I will take a shoot from the top of the lofty cedare and plant it, from the top of its twigs I will pluck a tender shoot, and I myself will plant it on a high and lofty mountain. 23 On a high mountain of Israel I will plant it; and its branches will grow, and it will produce fruit and become a majestic cedar. And every kind of bird will live beneath it and reside in the shadow of its foliage. 24 And all the trees of the field will have to know that I myself, Jehovah, have brought down the high tree and exalted the low tree; I have dried up the green tree and made the dry tree blossom. I myself, Jehovah, have spoken and have done it.”’”

      its been a while since ive read that essay; i should try again. i always remember it as being one of my favs.

    • Volcanic

      you know, S of Hannah, you are so very clever when it comes to sussing out scriptural meanings & the correct scriptures to use, I am green with envy.

      • Song of Hannah

        It was never my intention for you to feel that way sis! And please don’t put stock in many of my comments – I am simply trying to suss things out as we are all, and I am highly confident many of my speculations will turn out to be wholly inaccurate. Like the one above, which is much more likely to be about apostasy with a political entity than the move to NY.

        Honestly, I find your comments and those who prop up others to be of much more value than mine. I have always been limited on the emotional side – and often miss the more important human element of things, because of that. For instance, you were the first one there, when I was in a very distraught situation the other day. And your little prayer for me gave me just what I needed to carry on. ?

        • Beverly kenyon

          Well Volcanic is right Hannah, you have amazing deep insightful knowledge of the bible, sometimes when you post it’s like, Wow, how did she do that? And I bet that’s why you had trouble at your last congregation because certain individuals were just plain jealous…a concept I don’t understand because you would just want to learn from and be happy for that person who’s so blessed! I can’t wait to read the results of your collaboration with Bkly Kevin…that’s going to be informative and insightful. And I’m jealous of you Volcanic, because you’re brilliant at maths, you can speak and write another language, you’re feisty but without being unkind, you adore your girls and absolutely love Jehovah…which Hannah clearly does too because she never left even when she was treated so badly at her last congregation. I for one am glad I’ve gotten to know you both!

          • Volcanic

            not brilliant at maths, my darling sister, I can’t even spell jeeeomitry 😉

            • Beverly kenyon

              Mega lol. I also meant to mention your sense of humour and sense of fun as well. Feels like I’ve always known you. I will be thinking of you this weekend volcanic…can’t believe you were treated so shabbily…it was diabolical!

            • Volcanic

              maybe too much fun for such a serious site, Bev! I sometimes get the feeling that I don’t understand a word of what’s being said. It’s actually seriously depressing me & I feel that I am in over my head & only here on probation & I should stop reading the bits about the paradise as it doesn’t apply to me…..tiredness setting in maybe??

              This Sunday will be electrifying, I sent a skype message to the anointed sister telling her that I don’t want to be an official part of the org, because Jehovah has driven me in a different direction, one where I understand far more correct truths from the Bible. I also advised her that apostasy means renouncing ones faith (so she can’t accuse me of that)
              I told her that her car was missing a rear brake light (a massive offence over here, the Police earn commissions for fining such offenses, they’re all bent over here!), She replied to that bit, I think I must have typed the rest of my message in invisible ink since she hasn’t replied to me **poor sad Annie**

              But……. I will go in all white I think this week & wear stilettos in order to stomp on the attendants foot if he insists that I sing louder this week (he is hilarious)!!

              Last week was funny, I sat with my tablet on my knee, I had forgotten the password, so it was completely blank screen..still…’s the effect that counts innit?!?! LOL

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Lol Annie, that makes two of us now.

            • Volcanic

              oi! what are you doing here? You are supposed to be conducting an evolutionary soup experiment…….. I really hope it fails & you don’t find any dinosaurs otherwise we’re aww doomed 🙂

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Annie, Daisy and I have been emailing each other, back and forth. She’s so brave, such a lovely person, too talk to. The thing that bothers her the most is the chemotherapy, she compared it to medievel torture. In light of all her suffering, she manages to maintain a positive outlook on her life. Such a wonderful soul, who won’t let anything seperate her from the love she has for Jehovah.

            • Volcanic

              I’m not surprised, chemo kills all cells not just the cancerous ones! I love her to bits & could spend eternity talking with her (quite literally)

            • 1914for100Alex

              Don’t feel bad, Annie. We’re all in over our heads (and some of us on probation too)! Think of it this way. It’s taking someone that’s anointed to actually spell it out for us. Without Robert, we wouldn’t have a clue as to what’s going to happen and how. It’s not light reading, that’s for sure. But now we understand Jehovah’s plan that much more. And yeah, it’s going to happen in a way far different than what we were taught, but it’s still the same Jehovah. Everything we’ve learned about who he is still applies. Hopefully there’s some comfort in that for you 🙂

            • Volcanic

              & you so clever!!! Actually you are right, He is still the same & I give thanks for that. A few scales fall from my eyes every time I read an article, so there’s maybe hope for me yet, at least Jehovah saw something in me to bring me here. Yes, you did give comfort, dear brother xoxoxo

            • Beverly kenyon

              I’m now up after getting some golden zzzzzzz’s(sleep), got my freshly brewed coffee and EWatchman…bliss, so sorry about the delayed reply Volcanic. I think most people on this site don’t get everything because if you look at the posts everyone is asking everyone questions and speculating and putting forward their ideas on how things are going to unfold and all that make for the discussions being interesting and vibrant. I don’t understand everything but I’ll go back to a certain topic and go over it again. I think we’re a bit like the disciples who despite Jesus being literally next to them, teaching them they just weren’t getting it. If you read the account at John13 where Jesus gave clues as to who would betray him, they were completly clueless…which part of morsel and I’m giving it to aren’t they getting…I’m amazed Jesus was so patient with them…and yes, thank goodness he was perfect! And there was other occasions where it talks about about how things weren’t revealed to them because their tiny minds couldn’t take it in. So don’t despair Volcanic we’re all learning at our own pace, also in the near future in the book of Joel2:28-32 it talks about Jehovah giving the maidservants and menservants a good dousing of Holy Spirit in the last days that will open up our minds to understand everything. Don’t know about you Volcanic but I want to be around to have a share of that! Plus you can’t give up because you have to set a good example for your friend Sally as she’s having a bit of problem regarding her study. I noticed the anointed sister was quick to reply about the brake light but not anything else to say to you…mmm, getting her priorities right there (said with tongue in cheek, lol). Can’t stop laughing at you sat there with a blank screen on your device…that’s hilarious! You’re now a part of this site Volcanic and I for one would totally miss you if you bailed…not to mention Daisy and definitely Joseph. You’re a valuable member on this site. Plus I love reading about your trips to your Kingdom Hall…you write about it so well. I’ll be thinking of you this weekend. X

            • Volcanic

              don’t be laughing at me sitting with a blank screen, I do have an image to maintain!!
              Actually, that reminded me of when I did my graphics & art design course in 2002 – I was one of the more ‘mature students’ (hah) They plonked me in front of a computer, 20 mins later the tutor came to me & said “Do you have a problem?” …”Yes, I don’t know how to switch it on” One in the eye for those that laughed at me then, I went on to qualify as a computer teacher, I actually have a gown & mortar board on in the Lancashire Evening Telegraph report!
              If I bail it will be because Jehovah has ordered me to walk the plank & I honestly don’t fancy my chances with a fierce looking angel prodding me with a cattle goad …….oooooooohhh, I could do with a good dousing of Holy Spirit 🙂

            • Beverly kenyon

              Blimey Volcanic, I knew you were an accomplished woman! I knew you were being modest in you achievements! And you have you have the truth as well!! Your cup does runneth over! All I can say is Wow! and Wow again! And I haven’t even finished…also beautiful inside and out! You got it going on Volcanic!! But that IS funny about you sitting there in front of a blank screen. X

            • Volcanic

              you better replace your cup with a bigger one, Manc, it’s getting pretty close to runneth over. Just think, in the Paradise what we can accomplish together, we can travel the world & amaze people with our talents, you & I.
              I’m not that accomplished really, my daughter says I am lousy at washing up!
              I just love anything arty, but my favourite ‘art’ is designing Japanese style gardens – bit difficult here designing cacti on balconies

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, and I want to talk to some of the ancient bible characters we read about in the bible and ask loads of questions and we’ll be able to travel and see the world not fork out and pay for it and not worry about time….I think we’re imagining Paradise now…Joseph’s and DA’s favourite subject. But I won’t be using a lion as a pillow but I might cuddle up to a bear Burt style! X

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Volcanic, just one more thought. When I was reading the latest article that’s being discussed, I thought Whoah!! The men were piling in with their amazing insights on the topic and I thought to myself…I can’t join in that…it was way too clever for me as I can be a bit dim. I knew what was being discussed but there was no way I could articulate a post to that level but I read everything and will try to store some of it in my slow mind in case I have to tell someone about it in the future. Jesus Christ, our King and Redeemer said we were to ask the Heavenly Father for anything and it will be given us so because I’m dim, I ask for wisdom and discernment to help me understand God’s word which would then enable me to speak better about the things I learn here on this site. So don’t despair, you’re not on your own feeling that way…also Joe the Cosmotoligist would miss your chats as he’s your new friend. X

            • Volcanic

              was that the discussion about moving to Waaar-wick/Warrick? If it was I read it 3 times & am still no wiser. I don’t understand why the move has such an impact on the dates/days, but it’s not really up to us females, let the guys work it all out & we’ll just bake biskwits for them when Armageddon starts 🙂
              Aussie Joe is a cute new friend, in fact everyone is, I love you all, possums (said in my best Dame Edna Everidge voice)
              Just going to e-mail Daisy, I need to ‘hear’ her voice. She sent me a gorgeous photo of her sitting in the park yesterday waiting to go for her tests – she is so pretty.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, Daisy is very pretty and clever as well with that sharp mind of hers. That poor lady is really being put through the mill! I keep thinking of her. X

            • Song of Hannah

     So sorry you are feeling this way Annie. I’ve been thinking about what you wrote, as I was pained and saddened by what you are going through. One thing I noticed, makes me think you might be going through a conflict in your heart that is greater than on surface. Reason being, you mentioned that you sometimes get the feeling that you don’t understand a word of what’s being said, and that it’s actually seriously depressing you. But then you mentioned that you sent a skype message to the anointed sister telling her that Jehovah has driven you in a different direction, one where you understand far more correct truths from the Bible.

              Please don’t take this as an attack in any way, because I absolutely treasure you! As I am sure everyone else here does as well. But I’ve only noticed, within myself, when I catch myself holding two contrary thoughts or opinions, there is usually something deeper going on in my heart, untapped feelings and emotions, that I need to work out. I don’t know if this is the case with you, but wanted to just throw it out there, for what it’s worth. In closing, I leave this meme of encouragement. ❤️

        • Volcanic

          what Beverly said 🙂

  • In order to make the best use of dedicated funds and assist with other theocratic directives, the Governing Body recently adjusted the project completion date from December 31, 2016 to September 1, 2016. Since this has reduced the project timeline by four months, various construction schedules are being updated, which directly affects when certain trades are needed.

    While we will continue to need volunteers to complete the project through next summer, it appears the bulk of the work will take place during the time frames below. Thus, if you have not yet had the opportunity to work at Warwick or had hoped to return again before project completion, now is the time to make yourself available. We have a need for additional volunteers beginning in November and December in the marked trades below (*) and will continue to need them until the time frame noted. This does not mean all CG work will end at that time, but rather we expect the bulk of the CG work for those trades to wind down.

  • Makes me chuckle (in a good way) how you American chaps use old English town names and pronounce them so differently. You say “War wick”, we say “Warick” (the second W is silent).
    Interesting article and video. Thanks.

    • 1914for100Alex

      You think that’s bad? You should see how some people around here pronounce Smithwicks 🙂 Welcome aboard!

      • Beverly kenyon

        Yeah, well, DA, you think that’s bad…you should hear me and my friend trying to say where Sally, Volcanic’s friend is from…we sounded like we had the worst speech impediment! The more we tried saying it the more we cried laughing…it’s like we couldn’t speak English!! I’m still laughing!

      • Beverly kenyon

        Oh! My goodness! Sorry about that, I really thought I was posting to DA…oops…also got something up with my eyesight as well as a speech impediment. Sorry about that!!

        • 1914for100Alex

          Well, we both have a “4” and “L” in our names, so I can see how that would happen lol.

      • Ha ha. Got to love the old Queen’s! Must be a nightmare for foreigners to learn.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hello Joe, you won’t be surprised to know that our American brothers speak in many ways, closer to English as spoken during the 17th and early 18th century, as the language did not progress in the same direction as our use of English developed here in England after they upped sticks and left. Often their pronunciation, (somewhat irritatingly I must admit, to we who remained in the mother country and pretend to own pronunciation), is more accurate in formation to the root of the word, than ours is now. The pronunciation, (the silent w is one such case, should you care to look up the origins of the name in question) of Warwick has some quite interesting roots. Other oddities of English, as I am sure you know, is the multiple meanings applied to the same spelt word, (the Spelling, not the flour, or flower, my old flower) thus one could say that, ‘it is not very sporting to have sport with sporting Americans in getting them to try to pronounce the word, mirror’…..when in actual fact, it is, my old sport, Donchaknow? Back to biblical topics before we get some stick from the old stick my old fruit!

      • Brilliant. Thanks Burt. They still use “flower” a lot up in Yorkshire. I will Google Warwick then. Been to the castle there. Maybe UK Bethel should relocate there to help keep things unified! 🙂

    • Beverly kenyon

      We say tomatoes, they say tomaytoes, tomatoes, tomaytoes…does it matter! Is that Father Dougal out of Father Ted?!?! Lol.

      • Indeed it is Beverly. Smart lass! 😉

        • Beverly kenyon

          Hiya Average Joe, that’s hilarious! Great to have you here on EWatchman…look forward to reading your thoughts and opinions here on EWatchman.

          • Thanks Beverly. Not on the Internet all the time but I will try and visit more regularly.

            • Beverly kenyon

              No pressure Joe. It’s just great that you’re acquainted with EWatchman and Brother King’s work. Every time I look at Dougal’s face it makes lol!

    • Volcanic

      Hellooooo, Dougal, how r you today? Are you new? If so then welcome, if not well, just Hi……

      Nice to meet a Yorkshireman, my mother was from Yorkshire, don’t ask me where ‘cos I can’t remember at the moment. I am from Lancashire like Beverly, near Manchester so I am almost Manc, whilst Bev is a true Manc. We promise not to restart the war of the roses……….as long as you behave yourself that is….

      • On this site yes, on this earth, no, unfortunately 😉

  • Yikes!
    A jw survey promoter amongst us……..

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hmmm, I noticed that too! I used to read a lot by this chap, forget his name now, but it soon became clear that he has lost his way, prefering the easy route of evolution, to tickle the ears of his followers….I must admit I am too intelligent to have come from a monkey, but he may feel content with that….and has abandoned Jehovah altogether. It is indeed strange how many of the ex JWs do not have the truth in them, because whether active or not as a JW, I have never known the truth to become alien to those who know it. How is Daisy, Joseph ? Have you had word?

      • Volcanic

        Burt, I had an e-mail from Daisy just earlier, here is part of it…..I’m sure she won’t mind me repeating it for you all;

        Hello Annie…I’m at hospital having nuclear muck ” infused” so my
        rotten kidney can be judged if strong enough to take chemo. When they
        said an In fusion I said I’d rather have ginger tea. I don’t
        even want chemo but nobody’s listening. I have to wait 2 hours, then get
        checked, then a cannula for another hour then another check then catch a
        train home & crash.

        Its pleasant sitting in a centre park setting 25 koi carp swimming in
        their own murky pool, wisteria growing up & over loggias, huge
        potted plants on flower, & I brought my own food, so perfection
        right now as the sun is hot & shining.

        • Burt Reynolds

          Thanks volcano! I can’t believe they are sending Daisy home without support and letting her go home on a train. What is it with this world? I suppose the logistics are that it just can’t be done and we have to be grateful that treatment is available. I feel useless sitting here unable to DO something….a fair weather Christian!! So near yet so far. Pass on our love to her. Thanks.

      • Cedar’s is the bozos name,

        Hello Mr Burt.

        I’ll email her when I get in and find out how she is feeling. She is usually up in the middle of the night checking her email. I’ll let you know in the morning.

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