JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES RESPOND TO RUSSIA’S RELIGIOUS BAN

//JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES RESPOND TO RUSSIA’S RELIGIOUS BAN

The Supreme Court of Russia is set to judge whether Jehovah’s Witnesses can be considered as an “extremist” body. This came after the Russian Justice Ministry made its application for an order which will shut the national headquarters of this group. Jehovah’s Witnesses has its base near St. Petersburg. The website of the Russian Supreme Court announced a legal team would get together on April 5 and consider the application made by the Justice Ministry.

The matter of banning all activities by Jehovah’s Witnesses depends on the outcome of this meeting. Members of Jehovah’s Witnesses have responded by making an appeal to Supreme Court officials and the Kremlin.

Russia's President Vladimir Putin (L) and Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Jehovah’s Witnesses have launched a worldwide letter writing campaign to Russia. The heads of Jehovah’s Witnesses has invited its members from all over the world to participate. About 8 million people identify themselves as a Jehovah’s Witness. Jehovah’s Witnesses is well known for its highly visible foreign ministries.

Its practice of campaigning door-to-door has made it well known not only in Russia but all over the world. The problem with the Russian authorities is not a new phenomenon, Moscow labels it as a cult, a label which it fiercely denies. A number of its publications have been inserted into the banned extremist literature link. Russian prosecutors have projected it as an organization which fosters hatred, threatens lives and destroys families. The organization has denied such labels.

If the Russian Government has its way, the national headquarters of the Jehovah’s Witnesses near the city of St. Petersburg will be locked off. About 400 local religious organizations which are registered with the Russian government will be destroyed. These will outlaw services of about 2,300 Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations in Russia. The state will seize all places of worship throughout Russia. Not only this, members of this religious organization will be subjected to be criminally prosecuted for simply carrying out worship activities.

All of these matters will be judged by the Supreme Court on April 5. In a statement, Jehovah’s Witnesses said millions of its followers all over the world regard the actions of the ministry a big mistake. In case this lawsuit goes in Kremlin’s favor, there will be catastrophic consequences in regards to religious freedom worship within Russia. Russian government investigators conducted an inspection of the group’s national headquarters, taking away a number of documents.

Read article @ World Religion News


COMMENTARY

By Russia’s legalistic definition Jehovah’s Witnesses are an extremist cult. But so were the original Christians. Jehovah’s Witnesses are charged with breaking up families. Why should they deny it? Did not Jesus say: “Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.” —Matthew 10:34

Jehovah’s Witnesses are charged with fostering hate. Again, guilty as charged, at least according to Jesus: “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.” —Luke 14:26

As Jesus’ teachings reveal, sometimes families are driven apart due to one’s following a spiritual path and others not. It is an unavoidable consequence of one embracing truth in a world ruled over by the father of the lie.

Banning the preaching of followers of Christ is nothing new either. The original Christians were faced with a ban as soon as they began preaching about the risen Christ. When brought before the Jewish rulers in Jerusalem the high priest said to the apostles: “‘We strictly ordered you not to keep teaching on the basis of this name, and yet look! you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you are determined to bring the blood of this man upon us.’ In answer Peter and the other apostles said: ‘We must obey God as ruler rather than men.”’ —Acts 5:27-29

Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia are faced with this same order. Already to placate the authorities the Russian witnesses have ceased using their information carts on the streets. They have stopped using Watchtower literature in their meetings. Will they stop preaching altogether if so ordered? Only if the Watchtower’s lawyers cut some kind of backroom deal.

Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (R) kisses Patriarch of Moscow

Russia’s Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (R) kisses Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill during an Orthodox Easter service in the Christ the Saviour Cathedral in Moscow April 23, 2011.

There is another aspect of this impending ban on the activities of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia. There is no question that the Russian Orthodox Church is behind the suppression of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Since the dissolution of Soviet communism, which had banned religion altogether, the Russian Orthodox Church has experienced a resurgence.

Evidently Vladimir Putin was secretly baptized in the Orthodox Church during the Soviet era. And now the much maligned Putin is the Church’s strongest advocate.

Not only does this powerful church/state alliance pose a threat to the existence of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia, an outright ban poses a daunting challenge to the teachings and authority of the Governing Body. How so?

As all of Jehovah’s Witnesses know, the very cornerstone doctrine of the Watchtower is that Jesus Christ began ruling the world in 1914. And since that time the gentile nations have supposedly had their day. They can no longer impede the King of kings. Not only that, but since 1919 God’s people have been released from Babylon the Great. No longer can false religion impose any restrictions upon the work or activities of Kingdom proclaimers.

Putin performs religious ceremonyYet, the reality on the ground is that the Russian Orthodox Church is moving to absolutely crush Jehovah’s Witnesses —confiscating their headquarters and every kingdom hall in the vast Russian realm.

But if Christ is ruling as King why ought it be necessary for eight million of Jehovah’s Witnesses to be deployed to write letters pleading with Russian officials not to ban the work? If the worldwide work of preaching the Kingdom is sponsored and directed by Jesus Christ shouldn’t true Christians plead with God to intervene instead? After all, that is what the apostles did. When ordered to stop preaching the account in the 4th chapter of Acts states that they supplicated Jehovah and pleaded with him, saying: “And now, Jehovah, give attention to their threats, and grant to your slaves to keep speaking your word with all boldness…”

Given the present atmosphere of Russophobia that is gripping America and Europe, which began when Putin intervened militarily in Syria and thwarted the overthrow of the Assad government, it appears as if the Watchtower is looking to garner sympathy from the West by this highly publicized letter-writing campaign. The fact that the Watchtower is hoping to use public opinion to pressure the decision of the court, which is expected to make a ruling on the 5th of April, and has made no appeal to Jehovah’s Witnesses to supplicate Jehovah on the matter, is most telling. This strategy is following a long pattern of political influence peddling that goes back to Rutherford’s shamefully pandering to Hitler.

In their PDF instructions to Jehovah’s Witnesses on jw.org on how to compose a proper letter, the Watchtower’s lawyers merely request JW’s to make their letter writing efforts a matter of prayer, but no exhortation is given to supplicate God for the resolution. Of course, if their letter writing strategy works and the court rules in favor of the Watchtower Jehovah will be credited with having given the organization another resounding theocratic victory.

Will the WT prevail? If so, at what cost? Will the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses strike a compromise with authorities in an effort to save its property? Will that mark the beginning of the foretold apostasy that must come first? Or will the Watchtower be shut down in Russia by the influence of Babylon the Great? April 5th is looming large.

 

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2017-05-28T08:17:24+00:00 March 24th, 2017|JW News|538 Comments
  • Joseph Stephan

    “Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me.” —Matthew 10:34

    https://youtu.be/7w5OGJoA66s

  • Anderiega

    I’m just imagining the Russian mailrooms…This *could* backfire big time. They *could* view this letter writing campaign as more evidence of cult behavior….Clogging up their judicial process with pedestrian mail. Time will tell.

    I wonder if Bethel lawyers and leaders are more worried about losing their properties ($$$$) or the actual brothers and sisters. Was there a big letter writing campaign for Malawi? I can’t remember. But there’s not a lot of financial equity to lose in Africa.

    • Cathii D’Anthonii

      The friends in Malawi refused to buy a political party card, so bicycle spokes were driven through their legs and they were forced to run .the sisters were tied to poles and raped…the brothers fled to another country in Africa..

      • Peaceful Waters

        That whole incident was disgusting. I didn’t know much about it before but was reading about it last night. Bloodguilty. So sad. Can’t wait for Jehovah’s Day!

        • same here. i didnt remember hearing about the torture

          • Peaceful Waters

            It’s so awful. Especially when you know about what was happening in Mexico and how they were letting the brothers bribe the officials. Hypocrites! Vipers! So enraging. Makes me pray so much harder for the dear brothers and sisters that are simply unaware of all the deception that has gone on and is going on.

    • Andres Felipe

      I have read the publications of the time and yes, for the sake of truth, we must say that brothers around the world were invited to participate in a campaign to move the government of Malawi and Mozambique to leave the atrocities that we all know what happened

    • That is exactly what i was thinking. 8 million letters? Are you kidding me? If only a million JW’s write, that is like snail mail spam overload on steroids.

      • Francis Bencharles

        I don’t think you could get a million witnesses to write. i would be surprised. Between the cares of this system and the slavery of the Watchtower that keeps them busy, where would they find the time. They’re not going to miss their favorite TV show to take time out to write.

        • Francis Bencharles

          Maybe if the Society makes a proclamation that they can count it as field service time they might get some movement.

          • KB

            The branch doesn’t care about if they count time for this. Service has become a joke. Most of the people at my KH end up at a coffee shop and spend an hour there easy, they count it as service time.

            • Brian

              But that is the stupidity of trying to compel people into “service” and keep a log of activities so it can be kept for boasting purposes.

            • Richard Long

              Right…. Always felt like something the KGB or FSB would do. Wasn’t David punished for taking a census?

            • Anderiega

              Hey….Are you in my congregation?!

            • Peaceful Waters

              Same here. Or they race the first two weeks of the month to get all their time and you don’t see a glimpse of them the rest of the month.

        • You’d be surprised. I think there will be a massive response. It is just one page, after all. And the cost of a postage stamp.

          • Daisy

            A massive response due to the gathering together in oneness. Identifying themselves from all over the world may cost those respondents more than the cost of a postage stamp, sad to say.

          • KB

            Many of the people I know that are writing letters are doing a lot more than one. Some are sending like twenty letters. Many are doing it for group family worship as well.

            • Daisy

              Mmmh…confirming one’s name and address once may be foolish…but twenty times? Now that’s really unsoundness of mind.

            • mite be obnoxious

            • Peaceful Waters

              Obnoxious with a handful of Delusion… Dangerous recipe!

            • KB

              I know. Pretty sure you are supposed to use your Kingdom Halls address as the return address. I guess they think they are being extra bold in their ministry. I don’t think I would want Russia or the KBG to know my address. Just not a bright bunch we are dealing with I guess.

            • Shelley.

              The witnesses were instructed to use their own mailing address,at least in the congregation I attend.

            • KB

              Really. Wow, looks like the branch is ready to totally throw everyone under the bus. My letter got lost in the mail.

            • Burt Reynolds

              That is very concerning. It makes me think that they are trying to deflect attention away from the hall so that it doesn’t get vandalised.

            • Lev

              From Russia with love! Now in Russia all the witnesses write letters, except the elders. Six months ago I wrote that the prohibition of witnesses in Russia is a matter of time. The catalyst for a complete ban is that the “faithful slave” sent a letter in January. It required transferring all of the witnesses’ property in Russia to the name of a foreign legal entity. And, “hindsight” – November 2016. “Slave” do not care about people! Peaceful action with letters is an attempt to save capital, then to resell it – to Muslims, Adventists, Pentecostals, Orthodox-accomplices of Satan. Money does not smell! Why do not they send letters to China, Iran, North Korea, where the brothers are banned? The answer is simple there is no real estate, which can be profitable to sell! A Lev.

            • Song of Hannah

              Lev would you happen to have a link online to the letter you are speaking of? Very interesting!

            • Lev

              http://images.vfl.ru…64/16146211.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…be/16146212.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…30/16146213.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…f3/16146216.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…3e/16146217.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…6c/16146218.png
              http://images.vfl.ru…40/16146219.png

            • Song of Hannah

              Thanks Lev but the links don’t seem to be formatting correctly… can you try again?

            • Lev
            • Song of Hannah

              Wow! Anyone able to scan these docs into an OCR reader and then pop them into Google Translate for us?

            • JS

              I’ll try to when I get home tonight, if time permits.

            • Song of Hannah

              Here is a direct link to the PDF, if it helps.

              http://www.jwforum.eu/download/file.php?id=17720

            • JS

              BOMB- SHELL

              Under this stamp had to quickly documented indication of the Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses Russia meeting this week
              with the romantic name “RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DONATIONS of the transaction.”
              Addressed to specify only the chairman of the MPO. The ringleader of a guide-local religious organizations OSB.
              A mere mortal, oh, immortal Jehovah’s Witnesses know about this document are strictly forbidden.
              Because ordinary SI from this hidden information Organization unwanted deformations can occur in the head.
              As a consequence of – Jehovah provocative questions on the topic: “What the fuck?” and inner excitement, a paraphrase, “What the hell did, oh, my God, these faces …”

              My dear sworn friends Jehovah’s Witnesses!
              Document on 8 pages. It scans and PDF can be downloaded below.
              If you suddenly become unbearable by the flood of questions after reading the secret of February the recommendations OSB,
              print them and discuss with fellow believers in your congregation.
              Invite to the discussion, the Chairman of your MPO. Enjoy wandering scarlet spots on his face harried.
              You are all – brothers and sisters. You have the right to know what is happening in your family with a family property and to express your consent disagreement.
              If you really – the family, rather than a theocratic-storozhebashennye God’s creatures.

              So, my dear sworn friends, you take away surreptitiously Kingdom Halls.
              In the form of donations. All of you, in the name of your MPO chairman,
              voluntarily donate built their modest donation locations spravleniya their spiritual needs.
              A month later, with a little of your own Kingdom Hall to a foreign legal entity in France, Spain or Italy.
              You and your date of donation ZTS – nobody. Call you – the herd.
              So your decided Managing Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia.
              The state fee for your donation ZTS neponyatnokomu – 44 000 – you pay the same. From the collection of cash.

              Read a confidential document the Watchtower Society:

              http://nastyrnyi.livejournal.com/133019.html

            • ok, mind translating that to laymen with peebrain readers in mind?

            • Lev

              http://images.vfl.ru…64/16146211.png http://images.vfl.ru…be/16146212.png http://images.vfl.ru…30/16146213.png http://images.vfl.ru…f3/16146216.png http://images.vfl.ru…3e/16146217.png http://images.vfl.ru…6c/16146218.png http://images.vfl.ru…40/16146219.png

            • Hello Lev. Why elders do not write letters?

            • Lev

              Hello Baruq! You have to ask them! My Elder answered me this way: “We are appointed by the Holy Spirit like the” Faithful Slave “, so your life will depend on the inscriptions of responsible brothers!” I think he said- “The most important thing in livestock is the shepherd, and the” sheep “will bear many more” MOTHER ORANIZATION! “Sincerely, Lev.

            • Lev

              Hi Baruq, I do not know if my answer came to you … in general, my elder said: “The faithful slave of the elder in the congregation is appointed by the Holy Spirit.” Therefore, the life of brothers and sisters depends on the instructions of the responsible brothers! “I think he meant – “The main thing in livestock is a shepherd, and Mother-organization will give birth to many more” sheep. “In general, in a country where people do not know what will happen to them tomorrow, then fear future repressions

            • Interesting, I didn’t realise the elders were not allowed to take part in the letter writing campaign. I’m going to ask my elder too as to why they can’t. 🙂

            • Lev

              There are “zombies” who write 20 letters, but most do not write, because they are either afraid, or do not believe in a positive outcome, or simply smarter and more subtle than others. In letters, you must specify your exact coordinates. Many have small children and need to think about the future. Therefore, many hide the true state of affairs. In Russia, many people are familiar with the recent repression of their own people

            • Judas was appointed as an apostle. Think about it.

            • Lev

              Hi Robert! It seems to me that now both the “anointed men” and “the sons of the Kingdom” are sleeping on the same bed. For good reason, very tightly and with snoring, and above the heads is a slogan; “Peace and security!” (Matthew 25: 5). But whose voice is the cry? (Matthew 25: 6). He obviously does not come from the Temple courtyard! A Lev.

            • Obviously, there is something lost in (google) translation.

            • Lev

              Hi Robert! It seems to me that now both the “anointed men” and “the sons of the Kingdom” are sleeping on the same bed. For good reason, very tightly and with snoring, and above the heads is a slogan; “Peace and security!” (Matthew 25: 5). But whose voice is the cry? (Matthew 25: 6). He obviously does not come from the Temple courtyard! A Lev.

            • Lev
            • Lev

              Roberto, it’s urgent! Yesterday at the meeting very quietly announced: “No one is invited to the” Evening “to spend” Evening “in safe houses! Where? -The message will be announced at the last moment, without waiting for April 5, the OSB of Russia goes underground.Therefore, they do not hope for Jehovah Is it really begun: Isaiah 32: 9-11, Isaiah 30: 4-7, Isaiah 4: 1? Seven women are the seven “anointed” from the Governing Council? Lev.

            • Song of Hannah

              Interesting you should say that, Lev. Ran across Jeremiah 15:9 the other day and thought exactly the same thing!

            • Lev

              These “pregnant anointed” in their America have gone mad! They ordered the Russian “witnesses” to be sent to Moscow on “peaceful peace” by Russian “witnesses.” Before the Supreme Court, “a great misfortune may occur!” Orthodox activists and other low-income people will simply untie their hands for the massacre. Shame on “pregnant anointed ones,” giving birth to the wind!

            • KB

              What happened to the captain going down with the ship? Seems to me like the governing body is trying to distance themselves from this situation. This amount of letters will never be opened nor read by anyone. It’s a complete smokescreen. The Russians have a problem with freedom of religion, and certain freedoms in general, because they will lose control of the people. Watchtower also likes to maintain control of its members as well don’t they. We all have to live by certain rules. Some times the rules change, some times for the better, sometimes not. In my opinion 8 to 40 million letters is just gonna add fuel to the fire. If you have an issue with someone you talk it out and settle your disputes. This letter writing campaign is just obnoxious, and will not have a positive effect for our dear brothers and sisters in Russia. Of course let me state the obvious, this is only my opinion, as last I checked I am allowed to have. The organization seems to have the attitude that they aren’t accountable to anyone. Have they cooperated with the authorities in the past? No. Have they complied with the courts demands in some of the child abuse cases? No. Do they tell lies to accomplish their will or agenda? Yes. What does the scriptures say about the superior authorities. Ro 13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.
              Will one or more governing body member show up in Russia on 4-5-17 to stand up for the beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide, or just the lawyers. Was the massive letter campaign their ace in the hole, their hail mary, guess we will see on the 5th. What did peter do when Jesus was under trial? He denied him 3 times. Not showing up would be like denying your beliefs in front of the entire world. Telling the local brothers to march to Moscow is cowardly. Some of the leadership of the organization should lead the march. What example did Jesus set? What would he do? He wouldn’t be camped out at Warwick. Did Jesus hide from his captors, or stand firm in what was about to take place. I’m not saying do nothing, and what they are doing is horrible. I guess I’m just frustrated with the things I’ve seen lately by the organization.

            • “Ro 13:1 Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. ”
              True, but also doesn’t Paul tell us to obey God rather than man? I always took this, and the verse you stated, as meaning, obey man-made governments so long as they do not prevent the worship of God. So, yes, we pay our taxes as that is the law, and we are to obey man-made laws. But if that same government tries to ban the worship of Jehovah, then surely we shouldn’t obey that particular law.

            • KB

              True. Whats the the goal here? To prevent the ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses? Witnesses are under ban in different country’s all over the world. Where’s their letter writing campaigns for them? It’s not about the ban, it’s about the all mighty dollar. JWs have been in Russia for 100 years. The ban was lifted in 1991. The witnesses can operate under ban again. The organization has already compromised there integrity by giving in to the demands of the Russian government in many areas. Not until the threat of losing assets did the organization get this involved. Don’t be fooled by the slight of hand trickery that the organization is capable of. The average JW has no idea what’s really going on here.

            • Yes, you make some vary fair comments. 🙂

            • Thinking

              It’s interesting that Judas was in charge of the money box isn’t it…

            • sally

              Hi Lev
              How do you know they are asking this of the Russian Witnesses?

            • Hi Sally, he’s probably sleeping now.
              But I can tell you that he is a Russian witness, inside Russia.

            • Lev

              From Russia with love! Hello, Sally! Dear sister, please pay attention to the second word of my post. P.S. Any avalanche begins with a single snowflake (Rev. 8: 13, 9: 1-12) Sincerely, Lev.

            • sally

              Lev. I do not understand how your answer is a direct answer to my question. I ask again how do you know the Russian brothers and sisters have been told to march at the Kremlin? I quote 1 Thessalonians 5 v 21 make sure of all things” that is what I am attempting to do. Many Thanks.

            • Lev

              Hi sally! I’m sorry, I thought you’d understand. The specificity of the Russian conspiracy is now: the OSB does not trust the reliability of the Internet. Therefore, information about the rally is transmitted only through district supervisors from mouth to mouth. This is known to very few responsible brothers and now you! This is a rally in 10,000 people. The information is “merged” from a reliable “informer”. In general, it is understandable and so: if there were no persecutions of Russia, they had to be invented (11, 09.2001). In the countries of the former USSR, There is a massive outflow of witnesses from the OSB.And now such adrenaline, a clear sign of the “next” Armageddon! Who wanted to leave the OSB-now will be considered a cowardly will not go away! They are not rats and will not leave the Titanic! In general, another trick “of the lawless” again Luka18: 8b-Here Jesus speaks of faith, not of religion! With respect, Lev.

            • Lev

              Sally! Post It was published on April 1! A Lev.

            • sally

              Huh? so you are saying that it was an April Fool’s joke?!!!

            • Yes I too was wondering how a single word, pregnant, answered the question of how they know the Russian brothers and sisters have been told to march. I’d be vary interested in hearing the answer to your question as it is a good one. 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              I think what Lev is saying is the the governing body have told the elders to represent the watchtower in court. I have read this also. This will bring down judgement on those individuals, the moreso as their scriptural teachings, I.e., watchtower dogma, will not stand scrutiny in court, e.g., shunning, which is one of the problems Putin has one the surface. The other problem under the surface, is that if you look at the historical issues of the national church, they are exclusive, and greedy for power. Think catholiscism for a mirror. Unless other political powers from other countries can intervene, ( I think Norway is the only opposer, so chicken feed insofar as opposition goes), this ban is already a done deal. The 5th April scrutiny is just a show trial. The watchtower lawyers will know this, therefore exposing the brothers to needless vilification is not necessary (as with Malawi) and the brothers are being used as cannon fodder. The pregnancy reference from Lev illustrates that this is simply the birth pangs of distress and there is a whole lot more to follow when the ‘baby’ (persecution et al) is brought forth. I.e., the last snowflake causes the avalanche, the first one starts the process. The last snowflake is yet to fall. So why stand the brothers under the Avalanche?

            • Burt Reynolds

              It’s dishonest for one thing….like our Conservative party using votes of the deceased in the last election.

        • Anderiega

          If you go on FB, tons of brothers and sisters are showing their photos of piles of letters. Last night one sister commented how much her postage cost for her letters. I think many will participate. (Plus, it’s an activity for counting time)

          • sally

            The fact that the GB has come out and publicly requested JW;s to write these letters is enough to guaruntee the response will be massive. There will be millions of JW’s that have paid no attention to what is happening in Russia and haven’t wanted to know (I know of a few) but now the GB have made a request those same people will get their best writing pads out and deliver.

            • Shelley.

              I agree with you completely.There will be a lot more than 8,000,000 letters sent.The GB I believe is more concerned about the massive financial loss rather than genuine concern and love for the brothers and sisters in Russia.Being able to credit time spent writing letters on your service report is rediculous.There should be no personal gain from this.What happened to genuine love for brother.Obviously the GB knows the love is growing cold.

          • activity for counting time? shezz thats just dumb

          • Peaceful Waters

            Or a great Family Worship project! 😉

    • Burt Reynolds

      There was a letter campaign for Malawi. I remember it well. All sorts of hype to alleviate their hypocrisy over the brothers in Mexico who face similar problems. The letter writing did not make any difference whatsoever and all went quiet. The watchtower claimed to be sending all sorts of physical support, but nothing was heard about that either.

    • Noe Namely

      I hate to admit it but that thought did enter my mind as well…. But surely…they are concerned about the Brothers & Sisters and then the Realestate. Wonder how many Rubles a Russian Kingdom Hall costs on average? I’m not sold on poking the Bear with 8 million letters? I’ve tried to picture what this would look like if only half of the membership were to write….at least a boxer I’m guessing maybe more…I just can’t picture it. I hope it don’t cause the Russian officials to lock. their heels and refuse to budge thinking they will not let a bunch of Christians push them around and tell them what to do etc… I have been working on it and had already forgiven the GB the things I found out that led to the rest of my awakening..I was disappointed, then glad to have found out but find myself wishing I had never learned of these things! It was difficult to forgive them but not impossible…I highly recommend it!

    • Noe Namely

      hate to admit it but that thought did enter my mind as well…. But surely…they are concerned about the Brothers & Sisters and then the Realestate. Wonder how many Rubles a Russian Kingdom Hall costs compared to here in the USA…on average? I am however, not sold on poking the Bear with 8 million letters? I’ve tried to picture what this would look like if only half of the membership were to write….at least a box car full I’m guessing…..Not only that, how might 4 million letters effect officials who have been in this position with WT before?…

    • Noe Namely

      I hate to admit it but that thought did enter my mind as well…. But surely…they are concerned about the Brothers & Sisters and the Realestate second. but again, I hate admit it again but theres is a fair amount of evidence out there that’s to the contrary. Wonder how many Rubles a Russian Kingdom Hall costs compared to the USA…on average? I am however, not sold on the results of poking the Bear with 8 million letters? I’ve tried to picture what this would look like if only half of the membership were to write….at least a box car full I’m guessing…..Not only that, how might these same 4 million letters effect officials who have been in this position with WT before?…

  • Song of Hannah

    i still cannot help but wonder if this is not also a consequence of the Watchtower setting up NGOs, which are looked at suspiciously by Russia as “foreign agents”.
    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/kremlin-official-admits-problems-with-foreign-agent-law-56434

    • Brian

      I would be thinking this is exactly what it is, the JW’s are not the only ones coming under ban.

  • “the Russian Orthodox Church is behind the suppression” you mean Babylon hasnt fallen and can persecute Jehovah’s witnesses whenever they fill like it? ha ha! (sarcasm)
    also yet the nations supposedly had their day, the Watchtower has had to hock-off property already given to Jehovah to pay off sexual abuse fines they rightly deserve that nations have inflected on them. but i thought the nations day was over? nope, the nations day is just getting started

    • Richard Long

      Right, DA. And the Brooklyn properties were sold to a group headed by no less a personage than the current U.S President’s very own son in law, Jared Kushner.

  • heres my short letter to Kirill –

    dear Kirill, you’re an idiot… and that stupid hat isn’t helping matters. you need a real hobby and i don’t mean a small pony, although i could see you riding one. a crustacean on a pony mite give Salvador Dali some ideas. btw, Bootsy Collins called, he wants his robe back.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Very droll. I like that.

  • Francis Bencharles

    When they were faced with much the same problem in the late 1980’s and 1990’s when it was difficult to preach in some lands and in others they were banned and in still others our brothers were being outright abused, what did they do. They did the opposite of Jesus when Satan put him under political pressure in Luke

    “So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time.+ 6 Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me,+ and I give it to whomever I wish. 7 If you, therefore, do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.” 8 In reply Jesus said to him: “It is written, ‘It is Jehovah* your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”+ Luke 4.

    Yes, the joined the U.N., printed positive propaganda pieces in the Watchtower and the Awake and had their lackies (whom I was one of) distribute this propaganda worldwide. They bent their knees to Baal so that he would allow them to preach everywhere they wanted to and to have the abuse stopped.

    They went down to proverbial Egypt instead of turning to Jehovah and Jesus for help. They think that Jehovah and Jesus are incapable of helping them. They get nothing from them in the form of understanding his word, especially in the case of Prophecy.

    My guess is they will go to the U.N. light in the European version of the U.N. which they have been an NGO since they left the U.N. affiliation. Or did they? Who really knows.

    Don’t worry, the brothers and sisters in Russia are about to be freed not just from Russia by the angels but freed from the prison of the Watchtower when their wall falls. It will come very soon

    • Marisa Gomez

      Y con todos los pecados cometidos,asi y todo….seran perdonados por jehova a causa de su nombre Santo. Asi que no tienes derecho de juzgar a nadie….cuando tu mismo no puedes lanzar la primera piedra. Calla y deja que Jesus sea quien juzgue y limpie su Trono,,,porque lo hara, pero no porque tu te quejes.

      • sounds like youre complaining

        • Marisa Gomez

          No, it sound like bother me when GB is being attacked..and judged…Brother Robert doesn’t judge anyone,,,he only tells the truth. And ultimately is Jehovah the holy Judge

  • “And now, Jehovah, give attention to their threats, and grant to your slaves to keep speaking your word with all boldness…” amen

  • barbara fletcher

    it is what we expect from false religion, makes no difference if they stop the preaching, it makes people want more, we await Jesus’ triumph entry with his Angels to destroy all of them at Armageddon, Satan and his demons will be gone, false religion gone, all evil will be gone, this will leave only people who know Jehovah and are willing to do his will, not mans which dominate man to his injury. The paradise long promised will be a reality where we can have peace and eventually see our loved ones arise from the dead to have a real life, Amen, com quickly

  • Ken Rosenberg

    Isn’t this fulfilling prophecy though? Let them do it.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hopefully!

  • Burt Reynolds

    I would not be surprised if the decision to alleviate the wachtower of its property has already been taken and, as usual in ‘communist’ regimes, the government will benefit financially. What better motive could there be from their point of view? What other motive could their be? What ever the outcome may be, it will be part of the descent into the end of this system. Certainly, the response of the watchtower is worthy of inspection for those keeping watch.

    • Brian

      Burt, you seem to be stuck in a time warp, “communists” really? The motive is to get rid of the NGO’s of which many were/are just fronts for governments, he is protecting his country and there will be “collateral” damage in the process.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Yes you are probably right, Brian. The reason I put the term communist in parenthesis was because I was alluding to the ‘ownership’ of all material by the state, as it was in the Russian communist era, where workers owned nothing, supported the state through tithing and did as they were told. Putin and his government are simply communist by another name. Not that I care in the least what any of the governments call themselves. It is rather what they do and I admit that is difficult to discribe. As has already been suggested on this site, the likelihood of a ‘join the government of go without’,
        ( communism) system is very likely in the near future. No doubt though that I am stuck in a time warp. People do tend to live within their generational culture, unless that is, one believes in the watchtower ‘generation’ that is spanning centuries. Now that is a real time warp!

        • Jamie Mac

          Burt, nothing wrong with being stuck in a time warp, I still miss voyage to the bottom of the sea.

          • Burt Reynolds

            I still remember bill and Ben…..I had no idea they would grow up to be Tony Blair and Gordon brown……land little weed has morphed into madam May!

            • Brian

              Tony Blair and Gordon Brown! I didn’t realise Bill and Ben were in fact noxious weeds!, Mind you there are plenty of others that could easily fit the bill as well.

          • Brian

            Yes, I used to watch it as a kid in the mid 60’s, I don’t miss it though!

            • Jamie Mac

              I remember rushing home from school to watch it. Loved it. Another favourite around about the same time was Lost In Space. !Warning !Warning or was it !Danger !Danger. Brilliant fun.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Danger Will Robinson Danger!

              https://youtu.be/RG0ochx16Dg

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Joseph, you have an endless supply of clips to both educate and amuse. This site would sadly be lacking if you were not here 🙂

            • KB

              There have been plenty of those.

            • takes One to know One eh? eh? ?

            • werido… ??

            • Yup, now my cover is blown. ?

        • Brian

          Yes I sort of understand where you are with this, I also grew up in the era but maybe in a different age group? I try to see what is happening in the world from a “it has to happen” to get to the end of it scenario, I also see that some of the governments around the globe as trying to look after their own people primarily from a nationalist point which isn’t, as far as I can see against gods plan to get to the Kingdoms arrival, it would appear that when the Kingdom does arrive is when all of the trouble begins as the nations will not acknowledge the Kingdom is ruling and hence they become an opposition to it and that is a big fail.

      • Richard Long

        Collectivists, if you’d rather. Generally, authority divides along the two opposing philosophies of individualism or collectivism?

        • Brian

          Indeed, but the use of the word conjurers up a stereotypical typecasting of in this case a non existent entity.

          • Richard Long

            Right, because the red scare was just another of London’s false flag operations anyway.

  • “Will that mark the beginning of the foretold apostasy that must come first?”
    (serious conspiracy music in background with Robert narrating)

  • Joseph Stephan

    This is so true………if Christ is ruling as King why ought it be necessary for eight million of Jehovah’s Witnesses to be deployed to write letters pleading with Russian officials not to ban the work? If the worldwide work of preaching the Kingdom is sponsored and directed by Jesus Christ shouldn’t true Christians plead with God to intervene instead? After all, that is what the apostles did.

    • KB

      JWs truly can not think for themselves. When it’s in the best interest of the branch, they are the first to say, ” just leave it in Jehovahs hands”. They no longer are putting there faith or trust in Jehovah, they put faith in men. They are scrambling because they are about to lose a ton of money in real estate assets in Russia.

      • Judith Bosch

        That is only your thinking – when you have enough knowledge about the whole situation and on the organization then perhaps you could have something of interest to say. You already made a mistake by saying “branch”. Of course no one realizes that this can be just the beginning of all religion not only in Russia but then branching out to other countries of which some have already banned the Witnesses. Do research first before commenting. A person can always go to the jw on line site into the newsroom to see what the world news is but then, again, that might be too much trouble and one would just like to comment on things without having any knowledge of what one is commenting about – (Proverbs 13:16) The shrewd person acts with knowledge, But the fool exposes his own foolishness.

        • Beverly kenyon

          Yeah, and one might be commenting on a person one doesn’t even know! And no he didn’t make a mistake when he said, ‘branch’ because that’s standard witness speak. KB is a very knowledgeable brother who would not comment on anything he didn’t know what he was talking about, that’s if you care to do your research and look up past posts of his. So Judith Bosch, do us all a favour and go get your pen and paper and get writing your letter to the Russian government as you were told to do!

          • Daisy

            Wiser to get pen to paper to the fat suits in the legal department upstate than to Putin. Then again, perhaps not. Both parties have their own agenda after all. Or, how about Judith informs the gb how a tad peeved Putin is regarding a foreign organisation/agent whom he considers a non religion, having a history of ever changing doctrines. Putin loves his country, culture, history and he’s putting the interests of his people first. Catholics, 7th Day Adventists and Evangelicals are not receiving the same treatment as Jws because they pay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, unlike Jws whose property dealings profits are hoarded in NY. Then there’s the “charity”status that Jw.org uses as a front, no taxes paid, but creaming off the profit through property deals. Judith could mention also that as Putin is not silly, he’s aware that elderly and poor do not benefit one iota from this form of charity and that families and young men are being turned into a NY – NWO religion, they have their own New World Translation of the bible haven’t they? Don’t forget to mention Putin is hated by the U.N Judith. He’s preserving his nation state and doesn’t want his country to at the mercy of American Corps. Remind them in NY of their traitorous alliance they made with the U.N, there’s plenty of documentation to research on the matter here should you not be aware. What about the Australian Royal Commission? It’s all the rage in Australia. Australians sit in front of their t.vs in awe learning about the child abuse cover ups and the ridiculously pathetic two witness rule. Will Judith have the courage to accuse a member of the governing body of lying ? after she’s done her research of course. Could she mention the shunning , that goes on for nothing other than independent thinking? Our beautiful young brothers and sisters driven to suicide. How’s that for persecution Judith? I’ve made myself cry now so I’ll stop going on.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Wow, Daisy, are you sure you haven’t got a law background? This post of yours is absolutely brilliantly written! You’ve given Judith Bosch a lot to write about to annoy Putin. I hope she now does her research on the very important things you’ve highlighted for her in your post and she’s not ignorant to still keep her head firmly buried in the sand. The preaching of the Good News of the Kingdom has been banned before in some lands but despite that the work has carried on. So even if Putin influenced by Patriarch Kirill does have a victory then we have to beg the Master of the Harvest to send out more workers. Matt 9: 38. Everything you’ve mentioned in your post Daisy does make a person want to cry tears of despair, sadness and anger but try not to let it get you to that stage as you’ve got be happy to help heal and make your immune system strong again after months of Chemo cursing through your veins. They’re the ones that should be crying not a loving Sister who truly cares and horrified at what’s happening in Jehovah’s House!

            • Daisy

              Haha, no law background. We were brought up to marry and have children and become beasts of burden in the 50s and 60s, not much by way of education after WW2.
              Basavaraj was my inspiration today. His brilliant post, somewhere here I think, put thoughts my way, and for once hubs and dog left me in peace to think without interruption.
              Glad you enjoyed my post and thanks for your loving encouragement. You give me confidence to express myself believe it or not. Carry on being fabulous you sis. You are dearly loved:D

            • Beverly kenyon

              Daisy, if you’d said those things a court of law about them the Judge would’ve been moved to lock them up and throw away the keys! It was beautiful…you couldn’t argue with that! Daisy always believe in the kind, caring, funny, intelligent, empathetic woman you are and you have a knack of getting your point across and straight to the heart of the matter. You really do write similar to Liz Jones. I really did enjoy what you had to say as it was all true. I for one admire women from your generation. You just got on with doing what you had to do, never wingeing, fabulously stylish, the best dressed beasts of burden! Exciting things were happening and happened back in those times and women of your time were part of that, the best and worst times! So happy Basa inspired you to share that brilliant post of your’s. You’re dearly loved Daisy as you hold the record of hearts from Joseph…Five! No one can beat that!

            • Joseph Stephan

              Really really enjoy your comments dear Daisy!❤
              You to Beverly, and all that take the time out of their busy lives ❤?

            • Richard Long

              Daisy, I think empathy must be your superpower! If only the GB would expose themselves to it!

            • Joseph Stephan

              Mail this to the GB?
              https://youtu.be/mD–lHALcm0

            • I think you and Burt ought to team up and roll out a collaborative new blog. Call it Daisy Chain. daisychain.uk. It looks like the domain is available. I’ll be your first subscriber.

        • KB

          Correct, I have written my thoughts. Not anyone else’s. It’s called independent thinking, you should try it. Interesting how you appear from nowhere and pick at 4 of us on here. I’ve done plenty of research thank you. Have you done yours? Where’s the letter writing campaign for all the brothers in poor countries being persecuted, oh there’s not one. Thats right the “Branch” isn’t about to lose money and property there. Oops I said Branch again. What’s your problem with saying branch anyway? Pretty sure if you ask anyone who reads your post and mine they will know who is shrewd and who’s the FOOL.

        • Joseph Stephan

          Here is some research for you, from our loving brother inside the Russian Federation… (something you would not see in any WTBTS publication)
          Lev to Burt Reynolds
          14 hours ago
          From Russia with love! Now in Russia all the witnesses write letters, except the elders. Six months ago I wrote that the prohibition of witnesses in Russia is a matter of time. The catalyst for a complete ban is that the “faithful slave” sent a letter in January. It required transferring all of the witnesses’ property in Russia to the name of a foreign legal entity. And, “hindsight” – November 2016. “Slave” do not care about people! Peaceful action with letters is an attempt to save capital, then to resell it – to Muslims, Adventists, Pentecostals, Orthodox-accomplices of Satan. Money does not smell! Why do not they send letters to China, Iran, North Korea, where the brothers are banned? The answer is simple there is no real estate, which can be profitable to sell! A Lev.

        • KB likely has more knowledge on the matter and the organization then most brothers youve ever met.
          you would do good to research the truth he is telling.

      • yeah thats true, i’ve heard that a lot. “just wait on Jehovah”, “bye now, keep warm and well feed’

        • Psalm 130:7
          7 Let Israel keep waiting for Jehovah,
          For Jehovah is loyal in his love,
          And he has great power to redeem.

          Micah 7:7
          7 But as for me, I will keep on the lookout for Jehovah.
          I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation.
          My God will hear me.

          1 Timothy 6:12
          12 Fight the fine fight of the faith; get a firm hold on the everlasting life for which you were called and you offered the fine public declaration in front of many witnesses.

          1 Timothy 4:15
          15 Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, so that your advancement may be plainly seen by all people.

          Proverbs 14:15
          15 The naive person believes every word,
          But the shrewd one ponders each step.

          Psalm 142:2
          2 Before him I pour out my concern;
          Before him I tell about my distress

          Isaiah 30:20, 21
          20 Though Jehovah will give you bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression, your Grand Instructor will no longer hide himself, and you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes. 21 And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it,” in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left.

          James 4:8
          8 Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you indecisive ones.

          John 7:28, 29
          28 Then as he was teaching in the temple, Jesus called out: “You know me and you know where I am from. And I have not come of my own initiative, but the One who sent me is real, and you do not know him. 29 I know him, because I am a representative from him, and that One sent me.”

          as for me i will do my best to be obedient to jehova’h and i will keep on the watch even if i am forced to do so in silence but i will preach when and where i can whenever the Opportunity arises i will try my best to preach his holy words to any one whom chooses to listen. i have tried going to the meetings and it felt very fine and i loved being with my spiritual brothers and sisters and they were all very loving with me but at the same time i felt overwhelmed because i could see and feel the changes within the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. i am not at all advocating or suggesting that any one should not attend the meetings i just wish that even only one would listen to reason instead of living on every utterance out of the mouth of the G/B. i suppose i went to the meetings again with bigger hopes thinking i could at least maybe get some to listen to reason but i must say i have failed and i am very saddened but i will keep trying in hopes of any one whom might listen to the good news.

          Matthew 17:20
          He said to them: “Because of your little faith. For truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard grain, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you.”

          • Jamie Mac

            Hi Leonard, I’m sitting in my kitchen at 8:00 in the morning and already I am feeling uplifted by those scriptures.

            I was having a conversation yesterday with one of my relatives. We were talking about 1914 and I was talking about all the problems associated with it. He did not dismiss me outright and he acknowledged some of the points I made.

            Have you noticed more folks commenting on this site, yes i know, there are some who are just up to no good, but we are seeing new folks. Is it all possible that some are beginning to doubt the WT and looking elsewhere.

            In your own words Leonard, ‘listen to the good news with power of reason. There is no finer place to start than right here.

            Thanks again , I really enjoyed reading your post

            • “Is it all possible that some are beginning to doubt the WT and looking elsewhere.”

              I don’t think people are “beginning” to doubt at all. I think many JWs have always doubted but did not or do not wish to entertain those doubts, at least not aloud. What were are seeing on this forum is nothing new. In fact, if you think of how many witnesses there are in the world, including those who are unbaptised, then the number of people we see posting on here is insignificant. However, not to dismiss that, it is a sign that, thanks to the anonymity of the internet, those JWs who are doubting are able to voice their opinions and seek like-minded others without anybody finding out.

            • Jamie Mac

              Morning JW student. Yes agreed, I really should have phrased that as ‘More and more are beginning to doubt’, that’s really what I meant.

              Yes it is insignificant in our eyes, but perhaps in Jehovah’ s eye those few are bringing him joy. I would like to think that anyway.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Actually I would contend that, JW. The following on this site is in the tens of thousands, though comparatively few contribute. Of those in the background, the majority are JWs, and then people searching. You tube also produces yet more followers on this site. The unspoken feelings of the witnesses, as you correctly point out, are fearful of questioning the truth. Why? Apart from the biblical issues of testing their priorities, to see if they really want insight into Jehovah, many have too much invested in years, in poverty, in hope, in unrealised hopes, and in dashed expectations, overcome by their humanity. Further, it never was or is about numbers. It is about purity of intent, understanding; a spiritual empathy if you will. There was only one family that survived the last ‘tribulation’ and the ratio of population to survivors is probably not a lot different than what we see today. What is a million against eight billion? Yet we cannot even imagine a million in our minds. But it is a great crowd.

              It is not the anonymity either of the Internet so much either, though that may be a small part, but the blindness and persecution that some would face in exposing doubt in ANY form, even to themselves, because it has been drummed into ones head, that doubt is spiritual adultery, worthy of death and eternal cutting off. If many, many, knew what they were looking for, or had the courage, anonymity would be redundant. Few JWs have need of anonymity, as they already display their spirituality on their sleeves everywhere they go.

              This forum is indeed something new. It’s like has not been seen before in the history of the watchtower, though I know of one site that exposes truth besides. And it is because people are beginning to doubt, that now is the time that such a site flourishes. What in fact is being seen here, is that people in general are beginning to doubt as Jamie says, it’s just that few are willing to act on it. Fewer still, see the role of the watchtower and spend their time flitting about the peripheral etiquette of inquiry rather than taking the leap. Right at this time, the whole world is looking elsewhere, but the devil is in the detail and that is where most are threshed out, snuffed out because they cannot see through the trivia to the scriptural paradox that is the watchtower.

            • Jamie Mac

              Burt, wonderfully expressed.

            • Yes, you make some vary valid points there.

              Oh, on a completely different subject, I have just had a text message from an elder at my KH asking me to send him my monthly report. It’s only two days overdue, and today I will be at the KH to give it to him. Slap on the wrist for JW Student it seems. Stygg pojke!! >.<

            • Huldah

              Here here!
              Excellent points.
              Good point about anonymity. It’s not our lack of courage but the oppression of thought by the WT.
              Also appreciated what you said about numbers. Jehovah doesn’t need numbers he wants real faith. Romans 9:27 Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved.+ 28 For Jehovah* will make an accounting on the earth, concluding it and cutting it short.”*+

            • Richard Long

              Daniel Genser.
              But not for Jehovah’s mercy, there go all of us. Caution: this story does not have a satisfactory ending. Prepare to have your heart rendered asunder.

              https://medium.com/@danielgenser/what-i-believe-to-be-true-and-how-i-have-come-to-believe-it-13df821c3ed#.hfogb2hpt

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya, Richard, Daniel Gener’s story really impacted and left an impression on you, so have tried get in touch with him via social media as he said something really interesting…his beliefs are incomplete and subject to change and that’s a good sign as he needs to be told about sites like EWatchmam, Peimeno and Baruq and then he’ll find out why all the things he talked about in his story is happening, the real reason behind it all. It was sad reading how he dismantled his life and had to give his cat away, I’m not being shallow but giving away the cat upset me. But loved how he did something about his situation and writing his story must’ve been cathartic and healing for him and his wife as reading his story is riveting as he writes it so well. He says a lot things that a person can relate to. David Genser writes in a real, raw honest way…uncensored! Wonder if he’s still working things out?!

            • Richard Long

              Beverly. the cat bit tore at me also, as it was clearly a trauma for the Genser’s to adopt out their beloved pet. On the other hand, for me, to the point of several here discussing the state of awakening for those soldiering on under the WT’s control, it was encouraging to read he did not have to drag his wife off the cliff of WT disillusion – she was similarly ready and willing leap herself.

              Many days I have been moved to write him but stopped cold by the realization I myself, a complete stranger himself in a state of total spiritual breakdown, might do more harm than good. I just wasn’t imagining the impact of my “hey, you broke my 1914, but please return to Jehovah” to be positive for either of us.

              Plus, for better or worse, I draw the line at twitter! A pox on the twitterverse!

              Also, you probably noticed his tattoo. I’m assuming the fact that he went through the pain and expense of prominently and permanently displaying an Orwellian reference on his body means he is not to be trifled with by someone not absolutely certain in their fact and faith alike. So basically I have to admit that my repeated references to the story of Daniel , in addition to adding context to our discussions, is a blatant effort to bring him to Robert’s attention that he may either be moved to directly contact Brother Genser himself or else write something that may properly equip a person such as myself to do it. To the end that you have “noticed” the Genser’s and knowing you as I have come to, no doubt expended yourself in prayer on their behalf, i am convinced they are already benefited, as I would take one of your prayers for 50 of mine any day.

              Maybe the day will come when I raise the nerve to contact him but, and I say this facetiously, he needs to give me another avenue besides twitter!

              Be Safe

            • Beverly kenyon

              If you feel moved to write him Richard, you should go for it even if nothing comes of it. At least you reached out and he might be so pleased that someone understand s and gets it. You and him might get on great and the way you write is similar to his style of writing also. That tattoo was a statement, not one of don’t mess with me, one I think of liberation, I’m in charge of me, I’ve taken back control, I’m thinking for myself and yeah, it was great his wife was of the same mind and was loyal and stood with him shoulder to shoulder, there’s a lot of love and mutual respect there. Jehovah is a hearer of prayer Richard and I don’t know why you think he wouldn’t listen to one of your fifty prayers to my one prayer! Richard you need to reach out to the Gensers even if it’s only to tell them how much you appreciated their honest story and not by Twitter as I can tell you have a loathing for it. Lol.

            • i’m very happy with a glad heart that the scriptures are uplifting to you that is what they are for to guide our steps give us direction and help us to walk through the fires.
              in answer to your question do i think some are listening to the good news? yes i do and many of them are within the watchtower but not only the watchtower but even worldly people. will they listen with the power of reason? well that’s a good question and i think any one thirsting for truth with an open mind and a open heart will hear his holy words. lets consider this very power scripture.

              (Mark 4:35-5:43)
              God’s Word “Is Alive and Exerts Power”

              brother Robert King is surely prepairing a way and setting the examples for us all given to him by jehova’h and jesus christ i my self since i was a little boy had always wondered about god because my mother had always told me yes there is a god and yes he loves us all and yes he will make things right one day and so she instilled in me many questions that she did not really have an answer to and she honestly said tome i don’t know everything but i do know we must have faith. now some 40 years later being blessed with jehovah’s holy word and i am in AWE.
              his holly word split me in two and now nothing in this world has any interest for me the only thing i want to do is spread his holy words to any one Whom shows even the smallest faith. i think there many whom thirst for truth and some will answer and many more will not just as jehovah’ has said.

              1 Corinthians 1:26
              For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth,

              just to be able to try and spread his holy words with every one is most certainly a privilege and a blessing and i expect no reward from jehova’h because he has already shown me how much he truly loves us all with his undeserved love mercy and kindness and he freely gives to us all.

          • Burt Reynolds

            A very uplifting comment. Very enjoyable. Thanks Leonard.

            • The Scriptures Are Like 3D To Me They Stick out Every Time I Read Them they speak to my heart and make me rejoice in his promise. how wonderful and powerful they really are. i truly love the scriptures they are very close to my heart.

              Hebrews 4:12
              For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints from the marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.

          • amen

          • Vicky

            The JW organisation is a man made organisation, with imperfect humans running it, so it won’t be perfect like Jehovah’s heavenly Kingdom to come, but it is the closest there is on the planet today and they are trying to do the will of Jehovah by showing his name and being a Witness to all before the end of this time. The organisation says they will get things wrong and will try to correct and learn as best they can. At judgement we will all have to explain our choice and actions to Jehovah, then our true hearts can’t be revealed.

            • True! This is basically what an elder told me the other day when I asked him if the GB ever make mistakes. I have no proplem with the GB getting things wrong, so long as they admit those mistakes and try to correct them. As for the past membership of the UN, I really couldn’t care. They are no longer members and that, for me, is the important thing.

      • Srecko Sostar

        very good, like what you said!

    • i dont understand why one letter of truth wouldnt be enough. why do all of Jehovah’s witnessses need to do this? pray to Jehovah about it and let the elders in charge do their responsibilities accordingly with the Russian authorities. if they get nowhere then looks like they loose and just going to have to obey God rather then men and the thosands of witnesses can either go to jail for serving Jehovah of get fined of whatever Russia does seeing they wont stop preaching the truth to othes. this is just a case of Isaiah 5:9-10

      • Judith Bosch

        why would you be so ignorant as to not know that all Witnesses are praying?

        • Beverly kenyon

          I’m seeing only one ignorant person here! What’s wrong with DA saying witnesses should be praying to Jehovah and let him take care of matters! That’s standard! Your argument Judith Bosch, is weak. Go put all that pent up argumentative anger on pen and paper to Putin…who knows Judith he might just listen to that fighting talk of yours because let’s face it, you’ve come on this site for a sparring session!

        • why would i be? probably many reasons would be the case, if i was an idiot to think that i suppose would be one reason but im not so stupid to not realize they are praying about it. does that answer your question?

    • Brian

      Joseph, if Christ was actually ruling as King the nations would be under subjection to him by now, there can’t be a time when both are ruling together.

      • Jamie Mac

        Hi Brian, you would need to qualify who ‘both’ are so I can understand properly exactly what you mean. If you mean the nations, then they will under control of the eighth king and this final king who rules for an hour would be in directed opposition to the Kingdom. So in that sense they would both rule together. If you have a personal interpretation of what you mean I personally would rather you not respond. No offence meant.

        • Brian

          Well they can’t be ruling together, it is either the gentiles are ruling or the Kingdom has come to be and is ruling, When the “thing that stands in the holy place or the place where it aught not be” is standing, it is standing without authority and as Jehovah has set the “superior authorities” in place until the Kingdom arrives means they have no authority when it does arrive in full. Just because they act with Satan’s authority after he gives the beast the power to do so does not mean they act with Gods authority hence they are not ruling together.

          • Judith Bosch

            The only way to explain is if you use Scripture – no Scripture is being used so therefore no knowledge is being given.

          • Ruling concurrently is probably a better word to use than ruling together. The rulership of the eighth king will overlap the beginning of the rule of the Kingdom by some 42 months. During that time people will identify themselves as either opposers of God’s Kingdom by giving their allegiance to the beast or they will be persecuted for supporting God’s Kingdom.

            • Jamie Mac

              Robert, your explanation is far worthier than mine. Thank you for adding this comment.

            • Southern ShaSha

              Robert, thank you for explaining the timing in simple terms. Always appreciate!

            • and seeing the true colors of people such as SJW type and rich celebrity type, they want things to remain just the way they are

            • Brian

              Yes Robert I sort of get that but because Satan gives it authority and power it will be ruling over man, but I wouldn’t think it will be ruling with God’s authority as the nations have had under the “gentile times” When it does sit in the “place where it ought not be” it would appear that it has no authority and in fact it is in opposition to the Kingdom.

            • Lev

              Hi Robert! Do you think Revelation 9: 1-11 and the ban with the persecution of “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in Russia are one and the same event? Sincerely, Lev.

            • No. I don’t think the Lord’s day has begun yet. Therefore, nothing concerning the seven seals and seven trumpets and seven bowls with seven plagues has transpired.

        • Brian

          I find it a little strange that you would rather I not make a personal interpretation in response when you have actually made one yourself…interesting!!

          • Jamie Mac

            It wasn’t a personal interpretation. I am not qualified enough to make one. I will have to re-read Robert’s articles again to make sure I understood first time around. Everything seems to make sense until someone makes a comment which I don’t fully understand. I must admit I am still unsure exactly what you mean even after reading your second comment.

            • Southern ShaSha

              Dear Jamie Mac, your humility is a beautiful thing, something that seems to be lacking in some. I, like yourself often must read the articles many times, isn’t that what we are recommended to do, “make sure of all things”. Kevin is another fabulous brother to help with guiding us through the scriptures related to the articles and questions we may have! We,re all on this journey together! Always appreciate your comments!

            • Jamie Mac

              Kevin is gift wrapped up with delicious delicacies from Jehovah’s spiritual table. Yes what a journey it is going to be.

        • Judith Bosch

          It really isn’t hard to understand – read Daniel 2:44 and Rev. 20:1-5 – and Psalm 37:10 – in the future only one will be ruling and it won’t be the corrupt governments that we see now. They won’t even be around – gone, kaput,

          • Jamie Mac

            Hi Judith, thanks for that. Yes I understand that during the 1000 year and beyond there will only be just the Kingdom of God, which we all wait eagerly for. I understood the context being discussed was related to the eight kings one hour in which it would rule and subjugate mankind into receiving the mark of the beast.

          • Daisy

            And bear in mind, it won’t be the corrupt WT Pennsylvania ruling either. They won’t even be around – gone, kaput.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Hahaha,
              Good one, my dearest Daisy ❤

          • Jamie is correct. two will be ruling earth during the GT. of course according to the WT we no longer need to pray “let your kingdom come” because it began ruling since 1914 already

      • thats why the Watchtower is stupid. thay only rule on earth simultaneously (as when Michael stands) for “one hour”, not over a hundred years

    • Burt Reynolds

      I think the motive for letter writing is not so much about saving the worship of the brothers, as saving the financial assets. The watchtower loves a ban on worship as it elevates them and shows them to be ‘working hard’ for the brothers ( they have to get up half an hour earlier for example). However, I doubt it was expecting a seizure of their money. Now that really does hurt.

    • Jamie Mac

      Joseph , that is a powerful piece of logic. There is nothing else to add, your words say it all.

    • Judith Bosch

      Why would you be so ignorant as to not know that not only are 8 million Witnesses praying but probably millions more? This is not the only time that a letter writing campaign has gone on – back in the 70’s one was for Malawi, and after that a number of other countries. Apparently you do not have an inkling on how Jesus’ organization works. If you had a brother or sister in a situation like what is happening in Russia wouldn’t you want to at least make an attempt to contact the authorities in their behalf? Or perhaps not. Perhaps you would just like to sit back and not attempt anything. That would be shameful, but then again that’s the way it is nowadays, less and less people are wanting to extend themselves for anyone.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I don’t want to stick my nose into such strong feelings as clearly you feel them both honestly and necessary in defending the watchtower. That everyone here has felt the same at some time or other, is indeed indicative of a different way of thinking as you rightly say. And yes, it does sound challenging, but is not ignorant. To appreciate why, we have to momentarily stand back from what we have been taught for so many years, and re-evaluate the validity of such. 1914 is a good starting point. We have all had to do it. However, the seeming paradox is, that the watchtower is indeed Jehovah’s arrangement at this time in the fulfilment of prophesy and as such, needs our attention. But again, we have to understand it in its proper place. Those that do, tend to generalise facts it’s true, I do the same, and without quoting the scriptures because a common understanding exists between us. Even though that is not always the way it should be, it is whether what is said can be justified from the scriptures that counts I suppose. This is what the Boreans did in checking out what Paul said.

      • Beverly kenyon

        Pfffttt!

      • Joseph Stephan

        Ignorant? Your the ignorant one, the leadership at the WTBTS is only worried about losing their ASSets to the Russian Federation. Period
        Stop being spoon feed, and do some research on your own. We are all seasoned JWs here.

        • Joseph Stephan

          ♬♫♪celebrate good times come on, I Got my first upvote from Beverly….♬♫♪?

          I know I’m silly!

          • Beverly kenyon

            Yeah! Love a bit of ‘Kool & the Gang’. Dropping some moves here Joseph! Now that song is gonna stay in my head! Yah, hoo!

          • Jamie Mac

            ah, Joseph, but in a wondrous way 🙂

        • Lev

          Thank you, brother, and I respect! Lev

      • how many times do they need be contacted? around 8 million at the same time? i guess. but heres the thing, none realize that Babylon is going to rule and the current preaching work is going to stop because that is Jehovah’s plan. so do they know that acording to what they are asking an praying? no, they do not. what if they do not get from Russua nor Jehovah what they are asking for? … Jehovah’s witnesses do not understand that it is not faults religion that is going to be destroyed but the Watchtower is what is going to fall first

      • sally

        The situation in Russian has been dire for a long time. This “finale” has been in the making for a couple of years at least. I remember when I first started studying the bible, speaking of my concerns for the poor Russian brothers and sisters predicament then, to my study sister. It didn’t make an impact at all. I however, starting praying to Jehovah to give them strength to keep their faith even then and have been doing ever since. My study sister however, did not, and I doubt many in my congregation did either, as I mentioned it a few times but no one was really interested. Now however they are all writing in earnest to Putin at the direction of the GB and maybe they are praying at last to. But its only in this last week or so this has been the case. I myself will not write letters to Putin or any other world leader about anything but I keep as always the russian brothers and sisters and indeed all brothers and sisters in lands who make it difficult for them to worship Jehovah in my prayers. There is a principle I am trying to get at here. Do you understand it?

        • Burt Reynolds

          I understand it. Good for you.

      • Lev

        From Russia with love! Your “Western” liberal laws in Russia do not work! Your “brotherly” love according to the instructions is a red rag for a furious bull! And the fate of VT has already been solved! Russia is the first swallow. This is a test run-in for the rest of the world. Russia is a testing ground for truth, it is an eternal question of the “Russian soul”. We should hope for the Savior, and not wait for the despondency of the “puppets” of the satanic world. With respect Lev

    • there are many things taking place all over the world. we can clearly see the stage being set for the end of this wicked system of things but i take great hope and great joy in the fact that jehova’h has a plan in action and there is NO ONE who can stop that.

      John 10:16
      16 “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

      Isaiah 49:15
      15 Can a woman forget her nursing child
      Or have no compassion for the son of her womb?
      Even if these women forget, I would never forget you.

      Psalms 103:13, 14
      13 As a father shows mercy to his sons,
      Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him.
      14 For he well knows how we are formed,
      Remembering that we are dust.

      Zechariah 2:8
      8 For this is what Jehovah of armies says, who after being glorified has sent me to the nations that were plundering you: ‘Whoever touches you touches the pupil of my eye.

      Isaiah 12:2
      2 Look! God is my salvation.
      I will trust and feel no dread;
      For Jah Jehovah is my strength and my might,
      And he has become my salvation.”

      Ephesians 5:1, 2
      5 Therefore, become imitators of God, as beloved children, 2 and go on walking in love, just as the Christ also loved us and gave himself for us as an offering and a sacrifice, a sweet fragrance to God.

    • Evelyn Lynch

      It will be a great encouragement to them knòwing their brothers and sisters love and care about them very much

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Scriptures for thought.
      And when he went aboard a boat, his disciples followed him. Now look! a great storm arose on the sea, so that the boat was being covered by the waves; but he was sleeping. And they came and woke him up, saying: “Lord, save us, we are about to perish!” But he said to them: “Why are you so afraid, you with little faith?”
      Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and a great calm set in. So the men were amazed and said: “What sort of person is this? Even the winds and the sea obey him.”Matthew 8:23-27

    • Vicky

      It was to show support for our fellow brothers and sisters in Russia. That was all and to hope our strength and feeling would help them and be a good Witness to all of Russia including Putin.

  • KB

    The only way I would write a letter to Putin would be if Steven Lett and Tony Morris would hand deliver it while pushing a witnessing cart around Moscow.

  • Joseph Stephan

    How can any sain individual look at these klue kluks klan bozos, and think there men of God? I just don’t get it……

    • Brian

      Why do you think they are Ku Klux Klan? This has more to do with the US’s previous (and still ongoing no doubt covert operations via NGO’s) interference in Russia than it does with religious persecution, after all it is a registered American NGO and will not be seen in a different light to any other one, in fact probably viewed in a worse light than many others because it is American, maybe the Russians know something!.

    • Burt Reynolds

      I think the hat with a cross on the top is quite amusing. It aught to have a neon sign on it with some appropriate slogan….’see e-watchman on you tube’ might be good, but I doubt Robert would want to rent the site.

  • Brian

    I would have though that the JW’s would have greeted this with open arms as verification that they are being Persecuted as “Gods people” but sadly for them it is not just the Witnesses that are under falling under bans, all so called Evangelical and Pentecostal groups are coming under the ban, wow are they “Gods people” too, heaven forbid!!

  • Richard Long

    Some of the JW detractor sites are showing letters written to Russian congregations with legal forms included, instructing the local elders to select a “caretaker” brother to take legal possession of assets to circumvent seizure, etc. I’m at work now so can’t provide links, but the whole scheme betrays lack of loyalty to Jehovah. I think Jehovah cares nothing for His “assets” and would likely just rather see his “servant” care for his sheep instead of beating them and throwing them outside to take the brunt of the Russian church/state assault. The lawyers are calling the plays for the WT, who have left behind any sense of decency or compassion for the witnesses trying to serve Jehovah. I’m not sleeping because I’m so sickened by these Pharasees and the fact that I was such a fool trusting​ in them. But then, I was baptized on April 1, 1991.

    • KB

      I wonder what the penalty or ramifications are for a “caretaker” of these property’s. It’s clear that their interests are not in the brothers, it’s it the loss of the property’s. Jehovahs hand is in everything that is taking place right now, I truly believe that. The organizations true colors about to shine through. This is gonna be one step closer to the downfall of the branch.

      • Richard Long

        I think Robert linked the letter to congregations on here somewhere, but the gist is the caretaker brother must be ready to endure pain of death. And , of course, be willing to sign the assets back over to the WT when the crisis passes. Also , there were separate letters to the congregation and to the elder body.

        • Burt Reynolds

          That’s just awful!

          • Richard Long

            Right. Someone is going to have to pay the Devil and instead of shielding the flock, the WT lawyers have convinced the decision makers that a few sacrificial lambs are appropriate risk management.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I thought that too. They are not do swift now to claim ownership of the halls and are happy to let a poor brother be bullied on their behalf.

      • Richard Long

        KB, the “caretaker” brothers will most certainly be the parties jailed, tortured, and executed, if it comes to that, because the Russian government currently has no other mechanism to separate an individual Russian from his personal property. The WT lawyers are counting on this. It is apparently part of their risk assessment to challenge the Russian government in this way, putting the valiant brother “in front of the cannons” and DARING them to seize the assets. I just erased an entire paragraph because I realized I am writing out of my anger and hurt at the WT betrayal and these posts should be informational, not emotional. Suffice to say, I am going to have to wait and see, like all here, knowing personally that I have a testing of my own coming soon that I’m not nearly ready for.

        • Beverly kenyon

          Disgusting throwing those ‘caretaker’ brothers under the bus! No Richard, don’t erase your emotions of how you feel about what’s happening. Lots of us on here have poured our hearts out on the things happening in God’s House and it’s good to know that there’s others who feel the same way. It was a good day when you appeared here on EWatchman as I personally like reading your posts and what you have to say.

          • Richard Long

            Thank you, Beverly. Too tired to say more. Just wanted to acknowledge your kind words.

    • Burt Reynolds

      Don’t loose sleep over it Richard. You have Jehovah’s attention Turned towards you. And will he not provide similarly for his other sheep?

  • Burt Reynolds

    We had a programme on the TV last night dealing with this very subject. The church in Russia has been very much reestablished since Putin came to power, in fact it was Putin that personally reestablished it after the collapse of communism. He is on ‘kissing’ terms with the patriarch as shown above but the whole thing was very much on the support that the church gets from government, but also on the intent of the church to shut down all opposition. The shutting down of the watchtower seems very much a done deal, but we shall have to wait and see. Jehovah may have other plans. Perhaps if the watchtower had more faith and appealed to Jehovah, they might have insight into what’s happening.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Eight Million letters equals on average, 223 tons weight, and will cost, for postage from England for example , £5,120,000, (somewhat more for airmail, and postage abroad) or, to put it in perspective, approximately, one third to one half, of one child abuse court case settled last year by the watchtower. But money is no object when the brothers are paying, is it. As Robert says, if 1914 were true, they could pray to Jehovah to intervene.

  • Michael Newkirk

    Hmmm.. this would make sense accept for the Fact that in the scriptures Many of God servants who had his backing appealed to world leaders and authorities for relief from persecution or suppression.

    Paul appealed to CEASAR for relief

    King Hezekiah appealed to SENNACHERIB when his army was coming against Jerusalem to seize it. Pleading with him to withdraw and even giving him Gold and Silver out of his treasury.. Hezekiah had done all he could to appease SENNACHERIB, and when SENNACHERIB continued refusing to pull away JEHOVAH intervend and made it clear to Hezekiah:

    “HE WILL NOT LAY SEIGE OF THIS CITY NEITHER WILL HE SET FOOT IN IT”

    Jehovah then sent ONE Angel who then wiped out SENNACHERIB’S entire army.

    so don’t think that the Governing Body have not already taken this issue before Jehovah in prayer LONG before it got this heated.

    Jehovah has the HABIT of acting at just the right moment?

    • Beverly kenyon

      Funny you bring up Sennacherib Michael Newkirk, he wanted a tribute from King Hezekiah and got it but carried on regardless and in Isaiah 37 Hezekiah prayed hard to Jehovah and didn’t lean on his own understanding and the GB would do well to ask themselves are the like Shebna or Eliakim who was faithful and trustworthy whereas Shebna was deceitful, proud and wicked and haughty! Jewish history have it that Shebna wrote a letter to Sennacherib tied it to an arrow and shot over the walls to the enemy to make a deal but ended up being called a traitor by Sennacharib and was then tied to a horse by his feet and dragged to his death and other Jewish historians claim he was forced from the nation having contracted leprosy dying alone and forgotten. Jehovah said he would bring Shebna down from his position and give it to Eliakim so instead of writing letters they could do with reading that bible account. And haven’t they learnt any lessons from doing such a thing. Rutherford wrote to Hitler on account of the witnesses and didn’t Hitker say, how he would exterminate that brood! Also, they wrote letters to that murderous despot Banda for the Malawi witnesses and it made no difference to the situation happening back then, in fact some say it antagonised Banda just like millions of letters will rattle the cage of the Bear (Putin). Putin is an alpha male, try asking Obama and America, he’ll do as he wishes as he’s the most powerful man in the world according to the media and his ego!

    • true, that had crossed my mind also but
      did Paul write 8 million letters? did he misundetstand prophecy under delusional influence of Satan’s opperation?

    • Richard Long

      Jehovah bless you for your loyalty. The thing is… for many years I’ve been convinced Jehovah would not hear my prayers because I’m such a dud of a “brother”. Now I’m convinced the only people behind me in the prayer priority listening cue in Heaven IS THE GOVERNING BODY!

    • i would ask the Watchtower what the principle is of why its supposedly beneficial to have that many letters go to the Russian athority and explain it scripturally. why is 8mill or so necessary?

      although they have said to do this massive letter campaign to a central place, have they explained their reasioning on the above? it doesnt make sense to me.

      • Michael Newkirk

        Nothing make sense to one who has none! let those who do write the letters?

  • Joseph Stephan

    Came up with a new anthem today, for all the times the Watchtower Society fumbled the ball………

    “25 years and my life is still, trying to get up that great big hill of Hope”

    https://youtu.be/6NXnxTNIWkc

    • KB

      You’re not alone. The struggle is real.

    • Ed(the other Ed)

      No, I think it’s way to worldly and you should delete it as soon as possible.
      (just kidding)
      I can relate….even though I wasn’t raised as a JW but I can feel the drama and pain that most here has gone through, and I have to remind myself of this so I don’t step on peoples toes.
      If you know what I’m sayin!

    • Burt Reynolds

      Well, she would never be allowed to give a talk with muddy boots on, but what a great song for opening an assembly! Many years ago when I could not get those dreary kingdom songs out of my mind at work, I resorted to re-wording them in my into country and western songs so that I didn’t feel down all day as a hopeless slave. Dolly Parton songs featured quite a lot if I recall rightly. The only one I did like was ‘hey there all you thirsty ones’, but even that became ‘hey there, let’s all go have a beer, I’m done with work, getting out of here, ……

      • Ed(the other Ed)

        Your funny Burt, When your waken up I’m hittin the hay, I often wondered if those dreary kingdom songs were in scripted in prophecy somehow, makes me wonder how mad he is.

        • Burt Reynolds

          You must live on Oz. What’s it like being upside down all the time?

  • NWOBS9014

    My letter to Russia: May Jehovah crush His enemy’s before our very eyes…

    • Lev

      From Russia with love! If the Tsar of the North (Putin) has not yet defeated the King of the South, then why are you interfering with Jehovah’s plans? Who are you to put a stick on the wheels of the “Chariot of Jehovah”? Why ask for handouts from the “servants” of the devil, thereby changing the course of history conceived by the Almighty? (Daniel, 11 chapter). Sincerely, Lev.

      • NWOBS9014

        I don’t have a clew what your talking about…Lay off that radiated Russian Vodka…

        • Lev

          Hello, good Christian! I recognize your unique “witness” – love of people! I wish you to follow Christ and not the people of Bethel! Remember: Matthew 5: 43-48. Regards Lev. P.S. Thank you for” Lay off that radiated Russian Vodka ..”.- Vodka already left for the brothers. They in their letters leave the exact coordinates for the FSB. That’s how Bethel “substitutes” his “sheep.”

          • Beverly kenyon

            Hi Lev, I won’t write you a letter as I’m sure you’re sick to the back teeth of hearing that word, but I will write you this post to show solidarity to you and the Russian Witnesses maybe facing a ban on practicing your faith and preaching of the Good News of the Kingdom. Mr Putin is obviously clueless as to who he’s going up against but like a brother, KB said on this forum, Jehovahs hand might be in this. But if not, doesn’t Mr Putin know it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God and even the demons know and shudder! I can’t begin to know the fear and anxiety the Russian Witnesses must be going through but I feel us here in the West with our relative freedom have got it to come as well as things are shaping up but try not to despair. A beautiful sister said to me a day ago that even if she was stripped bare of everything, literally had nothing, the Kingdom is in her heart. Thank you Lev, for putting your neck on the line and your safety in trying to get information to us so we can know the full facts about what’s happening and the role of the WT in all this bad situation. Please stay strong and positive and like King Hezikiah pray hard to Jehovah because it was his prayers that helped him in his victory.

            • Lev

              Hi Beverly kenyon !Thank you for the warm words of encouragement ..I think that Jehovah uses Putin as well as the king of Babylon to punish his people of Israel. As then, and today, “Witnesses. Jehovah” deviated from the true faith and began to worship idols. The OSB must evolve no longer by words, but by force. I am afraid that this is the beginning of the Great Terror, which will spread to the rest of the “civilized” countries from Revelation 9 of the chapter. Lev.

          • NWOBS9014

            Ohh I’m sorry, my Vodka comment got to you to late…Your comments are so fragmented I don’t understand a word you say…

      • Richard Long

        Didn’t Robert’s chapter on King Of The North establish that Russia was never the King Of the North, save in the desperate, fumbling minds of the WT and those of us worshiping it.. Be safe, Dear Brother

        http://jehovah-is-king.com/king-north/

        • Lev

          From Russia with love, Richard Long! Prophecy becomes understood when it has already happened. But this time has not yet come: Daniel 12: 4, so you can not say anything categorically. Meanwhile, before the time, Deuteronomy 18:22 and James 3: 1. With Regards Lev.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    There are many things you could think off. There is a sin on the part of Governing Body. The JW’s are banned due to one or more reasons. One thing was it was a DPI member and had a NGO status. Everybody knows a NGO status means they support the UN whose ultimate goal is to establish New World
    Order and Russian don’t want NOW. Since the WTS was a member and NGO status the Russians don’t trust such ones hence that may be one of the reasons they had falsely labeled the WTS as extremists.

    Also since Vladimir Putin is a member of Russian Orthodox Church. The Orthodox churches agenda is to bring Russian under one Christian umbrella. https://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2015/2379/print/,
    so first all other denominations are to be banned. So what can be done if one really need Jehovah’s help?

    Well take Daniel: 9th the chapter. Although Daniel did not sinned against God and God himself described Daniel as desirable man, yet Daniel pleaded forgiveness for the sins which he has not committed yet
    he pleaded on behalf of his people see Dan: 9:4-7.

    So Did GB did the same thing anytime in their lifetime? Now to it is not too late but the GB should openly acknowledge that they have committed sins such as partnership with UN and child abuse and plead for forgiveness for the sins they have committed, then probably Jehovah may change the hearts of the Russians officials.

    Till then the ban of Jehovah’s witnesses in Russian is the sin factor of GB.

    There is also another one point to think. If Putin touches the real innocent people of Jehovah there
    is already a sledgehammer on Russia because the Russia is against to the NWO and oligarchs. See Iran is supplying the Israel’s enemy Hezbollah through Syria and Israel strikes inside Syria last week.

    But Putin Sends Message to Israel: ‘Your Freedom to Act in Syria Is Over’ see http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/21/putin-sends-message-to-israel-your-freedom-to-act-in-syria-is-over/.

    But Israel PM said to Putin “If there is a feasibility from an intelligence and military standpoint – we attack and so it will continue.” See: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-I-clarified-to-Putin-that-Israel-will-continue-Syria-strikes-484786.

    And also Israel threatens to destroy Syria’s air defence systems ‘without the slightest hesitation’ See: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-syria-destroy-air-defence-systems-minster-avigdor-lieberman-idf-jets-a7637676.html.

    So if that happens Russia will not keep quite neither Syria nor Iran, then it will lead to escalation of conflict in Middle East. If Russia touches Israel everybody knows what type of relation Israel has with US especially with Trump administration. That is a sledgehammer on Russia. That is US UK Israel NATO will join together to take down Russia and that indeed is a good thing for NWO guys to establish their agenda.

    The NWO is more dangerous to God’s people than the present Russia because NWO will introduce
    the New age religion which will the start of persecution of Jehovah’s witnesses. Then it may be a time that mark the beginning of the foretold apostasy that must come first

  • Beverly kenyon

    What about writing letters for the Eritrean witnesses banged up in hell hole prisons for years without charge!

    • The Watchtower doesn’t have a fancy branch office and hundreds of new kingdom halls in Eritrea.

      • Joseph Stephan

        Jon Jon 13:35
        By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love for wealth and riches “

      • Beverly kenyon

        Precisely Brother King. Wonder if they would afford us the same luxury of them reading our letters about their shameful safe guarding policies if we were to overwhelm them with a writing campaign. Those letters would be either shredded or binned! Like Putin is gonna do to their’s! Don’t they get it that you don’t negotiate with narcissistic dictators…the man has been rumoured to have had a facelift and he loves his body showing it off at the sight of a camera. Who can forget that topless shot of him on a horse!

        • Daisy

          Shredded and binned only after names and addresses have been collated.
          I do remember seeing that photo of Vlad Rasputin, but with my eyesight being as bad as it is I thought I was looking at a
          centaur…

          • Beverly kenyon

            Crying laughing Daisy! ? Centaur! I won’t be able to look at that stretched face of his without thinking of that. Lol.

            • Daisy

              Me too, crying laughing at Burt’s explanation of the Osmosis dynasty. Hubby came in to find out what the noise was about. Crying laughing day for both of us dear. Hope it’s longlasting.

          • Richard Long

            Folding over in laughter!?

      • Burt Reynolds

        Sadly you’re probably right.

    • KB

      Excellent point! The branch likes to make everyone believe they truly care about individuals. The truth is, money is their motivating force. It’s hard to believe that so few have figured this out.

      • Beverly kenyon

        None of them are Spring chickens so why are they so motivated by money apart from being greedy! Don’t they know that shrouds don’t have pockets! You said KB,min a post of your’s the other day about how Jehovah’s hand may be in this situation and that thought has been sitting in the back of my thoughts. Most probably true. Maybe Jehovah is stripping them bare!

        • KB

          The future downfall of the branch IMO will certainly be a financial one, which in turn will ruin their reputation, which hopefully will cause the eyes of the JWs to finally open. You said they are not spring chickens why are they motivated by money. The governing body are mainly for show, there only job is taking the lead in providing “spiritual food”. They do not control the inner workings of the organization. They are the puppets, the organizations lawyers are the puppeteers. The president of the Watchtower has been Don Adams since 2000 until 2016. Now it’s Robert Ciranko, according to Wikipedia. I have not heard about this change at all, maybe it was talked about in a broadcast, I don’t watch them so I wouldn’t know. This group of men are in control of the corporate side of things. When I was young it was frowned upon to get a college education. Meanwhile the branch sent certain brothersbrother to Harvard law school on the dime of dedicated funds so they could help further the advancement of the organizations assets. I can’t explain how I know this but I do. The corporate side of the organization is scrambling to save the assets that have been invested in Russia since March of 1991. Where is the outcry of all the other JWs in the world going through persecution.? Where are the letter writing campaigns for them? Its mind boggling to say the least. This letter writing campaign could, in the long run, have a very negative effect on our brothers and sisters as did the letters between Rutherford and Hitler. A letter writing campaign could or would have a negative effect on our brothers in prison and the ones being persecuted around the world, that could be why we haven’t been asked to do so. The big picture is that Jehovah is in control, his timeframe and ours don’t always line up. This old system is still ticking along. We all were told by the branch years ago this system would’ve ended by now. Jehovah has known all along the day and hour. We are getting close, we are all gonna go trough hell on earth before it’s over. It’s not fair for only our brothers in a few country’s to be persecuted and have their faith tested. We all must have our faith tested and prove faithful in the end. Much love your way sis, take care.

          • Beverly kenyon

            I agree KB, their downfall will be a financial one. It’s like the GB and the org’s lawyers are a tag team. The GB present an ‘acceptable spiritual face’ and get people in and the corporate lawyers…the ones really in charge and running the show, mug them off at the back! Jehovah is completely in charge as you’ve pointed out and ones like you and me who live in countries where it’s relatively stable will eventually be tried and tested regarding our faith, loyalty and love for Jehovah and his Son, Jesus Christ but in the meantime watch and wait for it to pan out and get to that stage. I don’t care how many iPhone and Rolex watches and all the bling and sumptuous living they’re enjoying because soon they’re going to lose the lot! The MOL and his Superfine Apostles are firmly established in Jehovah’s house! Keep going KB along with your family. Much love to you all as well.

            • Richard Long

              Maybe Jesus’ battle cry at Armageddon will be “KILL THE LAWYERS!”

            • Beverly kenyon

              Lol. Well if they don’t stop their greedy robbing ways and ask for forgiveness from Jehovah and our King, Jesus Christ then hopefully that will be one of the battle cries as they deserve no less….robbing merchants! Bye, bye, ta-ra, you won’t be missed!

          • Burt Reynolds

            Thanks for this. Very interesting.

          • not looking farward to it :((

        • Richard Long

          I think it’s the influence of the accursed lawyers. They’re like the bleeding Templar Knights!

    • Burt Reynolds

      I didn’t know that. It never ends.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    There are many things you could think off. There is a sin on the part of Governing Body. The JW’s are banned due to one or more reasons. One thing was it was a DPI member and had a NGO status. Everybody knows a NGO status means they support the UN whose ultimate goal is to establish New World Order and Russian don’t want NWO. Since the WTS was a member and NGO status the Russians don’t trust such ones hence that may be one of the reasons they had falsely labeled the WTS as extremists.

    Also since Vladimir Putin is a member of Russian Orthodox Church. The Orthodox churches agenda is to bring Russian under one Christian umbrella. https://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2015/2379/print/,
    so first all other denominations are to be banned. So what can be done if one really need Jehovah’s help?

    Well take Daniel: 9th chapter. Although Daniel did not sinned against God and God himself described Daniel as desirable man, yet Daniel pleaded forgiveness for the sins which he has not committed yet
    he pleaded on behalf of his people see Dan: 9:4-7.

    So have GB done the same thing anytime in their lifetime? Now also it is not too late but the GB should openly acknowledge that they have committed sins such as partnership with UN and child abuse and plead for forgiveness for the sins they have committed, then probably Jehovah may change the hearts of the Russians officials.

    Till then the ban of Jehovah’s witnesses in Russian is the sin factor of GB.

    There is also another one point to think. If Putin touches the real innocent people of Jehovah there
    is already a sledgehammer on Russia because the Russia is against to the NWO and oligarchs. See Iran is supplying dangerous advanced weapons to Israel’s enemy Hezbollah through Syria and Israel responded with Israeli jets striking inside Syria; military site near Palmyra reportedly targeted. See http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/17/middleeast/israel-jets-syria-strikes/

    But Putin Sends Message to Israel: ‘Your Freedom to Act in Syria Is Over’ see http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/21/putin-sends-message-to-israel-your-freedom-to-act-in-syria-is-over/.

    But Israel PM said to Putin “If there is a feasibility from an intelligence and military standpoint – we attack and so it will continue.” See: http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Netanyahu-I-clarified-to-Putin-that-Israel-will-continue-Syria-strikes-484786.

    And also Israel threatens to destroy Syria’s air defence systems ‘without the slightest hesitation’ See: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-syria-destroy-air-defence-systems-minster-avigdor-lieberman-idf-jets-a7637676.html.

    So if that happens Russia will not keep quite neither Syria nor Iran, then it will lead to escalation of conflict in Middle East. If Russia touches Israel everybody knows what type of relation Israel has with US especially with Trump administration. That is a sledgehammer on Russia. That is US UK Israel NATO will join together to take down Russia and that indeed is a good thing for NWO guys to establish their agenda.

    The NWO is more dangerous to God’s people than the present Russia because NWO will introduce
    the New age religion which will the start of persecution of Jehovah’s witnesses. Then it may be a time that mark the beginning of the foretold apostasy that must come first.

    That is my thought please correct me if I am wrong. For I believe that Knowledge is always better than ignorance.
    easajw@gmail.com

    • Richard Long

      Deffinately NOT a correction, more a complementary annecdote:

      Most of Mr. Trumps “opposition” in the US, and I mean average people, especially minorities, who for very legitimate reasons might have preferred “anyone but Trump” are going on and on about Russia. Its Russia, Russia, Russia, all day long, every day. They now talk about Russia/Trump more than Ferguson or Baltimore or Black Lives Matter. Even ordinarily balanced radio programs hosted by sane, reasonable people like Karen Hunter on SXM Urban View, who is more about helping ordinary folk, of all skin tones, by the way, to elevate themselves than she is anti-republican activism She just wont shut up about “Trump and Russia”. I know most influential media personalities are spoon-fed NWO talking points through either individual (Diane Sawyer,Bob Schieffer,Jim Lehrer) or corporate (ALL major networks, publishers and corporations) membership in the Council of Foreign Relations, but I do not find her name on the rolls. The “Russia as Evil Empire” mantra is being pushed systematically. I know it is all distraction, but the point is, its working as planned. One by one, I try to explain to my coworkers that Russia is not so nearly the enemy of the American people or the American way of life as LONDON is. My guess is that but for the constant London fueled anglo-american aggression, Russia would simply ignore the “western” world and just stay busy rebuilding their own economy, but that is hard to do with Uncle Sam, at the command of the London Banksters, encircling Russia with military bases from which to project power onto the Russian homeland. To the Russians, the WT is an ANGLO/AMERICAN religious org aligned with the NWO powers, and, frankly the WT, nor we, cannot deny that. As for me, I pray for the brothers, that they discern the need to safeguard their own faith individually and let the WT lawyers fall on their swords for the assets if it is so important to them. Perhaps it is not for nothing that these faithful ones, who have already been so sorely tested in past decades, have received such training. I’m sure there is NOTHING one such as I can teach them about hardship or insurance, as i’m not sure I won’t shoot myself in the head when the American Nazi’s come for my cable modem. :-p

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Nice reply I learned a lot

  • Andres Felipe

    The problem I do not think is the division that causes in the families and the hatred that is had to Jehovah’s Witnesses. I believe that the governments are realizing that manipulation exists for control purposes. “Unlike traditional sects such as Baptists, Jehovah’s Witnesses control the members of their community severely, limit their civil rights, regulate all aspects of their lives, cheat them during recruitment and exploit them,” says Alexander Dvorkin , Professor and specialist in religions, quoted by RIA Novosti. I think Jesus did not think of this when I speak of putting sword and division

    • its whatever they are saying is the makeup of extremist

      • Andres Felipe

        You know that a people with fear is easier to control and control. We have all given the WT absolute power over our life and absolute power corrupts. …..

        • Richard Long

          Once again, I refer all to Daniel Genser’s story. He and his wife were so invested in congregation life, their conscience(s) dictated that it would be better to sell all their possessions AND LEAVE THE US ENTIRELY, rather than endure the wrath of the WT controlled body of elders. I am still praying for him to run across eWatchman and maybe, just maybe, find healing for the wounds the WT have put on them.

          • Andres Felipe

            Espero algun día encuentren a EWATCHMAN porque así su fe se renovará. El nivel de decepción que solemos tener por la organización es el mismo nivel de apego a ella .

            • Richard Long

              May I please know which language this is so that I may have it translated?

            • Looks like Spanish to me.

            • Richard Long

              Copy. He said:

              I hope someday to find EWATCHMAN because his faith will be renewed. The level of disappointment we usually have for the organization is the same level of attachment to it.

              Andres, brother Genser must have been ALL IN, because he is currently ALL OUT, but not hate-filled as some are. Here is a brother who fought against himself like Jacob contended with Jehovah’s angel, only he did not prevail. Yet I hold out hope Jehovah’s mercy will find the Genser’s and bring them home.

            • Daisy

              Apropos your comment on SoH forum re is shunning pagan; I recommend m.topic.com where it quotes an Awake 1/10/1947 quoting a Catholic Encyclopaedia saying so, and describing disfellowshipping as Not Based on the Bible and much more interesting information, too long for me to include here. Very interesting indeed.
              Jwfacts.com has abundant information on the subject of shunning quoting Jesus’s compassion and empathy towards such ones. Luke 6:27-37…continue becoming merciful..
              stop judging…stop condemning. After all, he communicated with the apostate scribes and Pharisees and the first apostate Satan.
              The personal experiences from people who are shunned will make your heart bleed at the cruel cold hearted ness of the twisting of Paul’s words you quoted 1 Cor 5. He’s saying to keep an eye on wrongdoers with a view to reading the riot act to them, not destroy theirs and their family’s lives. Hope that’s been helpful.

            • KB

              I ran across this quote the other day. “Making people do what I want is the easiest thing in the world. All it takes is making them think we have something special and everyone else is deluded. If that doesn’t work…make them think they’re not doing enough. Or threaten to take their family away. Easiest thing in the world”. Charles Manson – cult leader. Typical cult mentality. Sounds like the Watchtower don’t you think. Shunning a family member goes above and beyond the scriptures. This is how Watchtower try’s to control its members. If you associate with a friend that’s been disfellowshipped you could be disfellowshipped yourself, also not scriptural. You can’t be disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped family member ( it’s in the elders book). You my be called unloyal to Jehovah, but the reality is, is that you are being unloyal to one of the Watchtowers many unscriptural rules. Ac 5:29 In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. I will not follow any man made rules, in a man made religion, I will follow gods words in the Bible only.

            • Hi Daisy. Many thanks for the explanation, and I will check out the references you provided. Paul does say “not to even eat with such a man”. He also goes on to say (v13), “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves”. How do you explain that? That seems a bit more than “keeping an eye on wrongdoers”. Not even eating with such a person, removing them. That seems like a command to shun to me. I am not sure if I agree with the WTBS practice of shunning, especially when a family member is involved, but at the same time Paul does seem to suggest it. Thanks again. 🙂

            • Daisy

              Robert has written on the subject of disfellowshipping, I found it today. The heading of the article is When Disfellowshipping is a Sin. Excellent title. When its authorised by the WTBS would be my response boom boom.
              i would describe a paedophile as the “wicked” one to be removed, the murderer and such like. And we sure as certainly know that they are protected by WT … a fact. There’s simply no justice from WT…just heartless punishment .
              We must obey God’s word and Jesus’ command to love our enemies so we have to make sure of all things before agreeing with anything . Our lives will depend on that.
              Happy hunting for the truth my brother and you’ll find that Paul in no way suggests shunning.
              Perimeno.ca will also help.

            • Hej Daisy, and thank you so much for your reply. Today I was continuing to read the book “Organised to Do Jehovah’s Will”, which is a book Bible Students get on or shortly after becoming an unbaptised publishers. I actually got mine a couple of weeks prior to the home visit by the elders. Today I read chapter 14 – Maintaining the Peace and Cleanness of the Congregation. It was a vary interesting chapter and I learnt more about the various stages of disciplining within the congregation. I was aware that if somebody is disfellowshipped a brief, non-detailed announcement is made to the congregation of “Brother/Sister … is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses”, and in fact I actually witnessed that occur myself a few months ago. But I didn’t know about the reproving method and it’s subsequent “Brother/Sister … has been reproved” announcement.

              One interesting point I read was that when somebody is reproved the remainder of the congregation are to not socialise with him or her outside of the Kingdom Hall, but can continue to socialise with them during meetings within the Kingdom Hall. Do you consider that what Paul was describing is more reproval “shunning” than total shunning?

            • Max

              Pienso que uno de los problemas de nosotros los TJ es que se nos ha enseñado ha tener apego a la organizacion y Jehovah no asepta apego a nada terrenal que pueda ocupar el lugar que le corresponded a El en nuestro corazon. Buen cometario Andres.

    • Beverly kenyon

      Hi Andres, I’m watching the news about the Columbian mudslides and don’t know if you live in the vicinity of the disaster but if you do I really hope you and your family are safe and well. It really was bad what I saw and it’s awful what’s happened to all those people. Stay safe Andres and family.

      • Andres Felipe

        Hello my dear sister Thank you very much for your interest. My family and I are very well. Actually the disaster happened very far from where I live. Just to help you live in the center of the country and the disaster was in the part about the country. You are very kind as always. ..Thanks for your interest

        • Beverly kenyon

          Very happy to hear you and your family are safe Andres, but feel sad and horrified for the rest of your countrymen. I know there’s always been man made and natural disasters but it never fails to horrify! There’s a lot going on in the South American continent. A lot of political and social unrest and the people rising up…people are not willing to put up with corruption, inequality and poverty anymore and are pushing back! Stay safe Andres.

          • Andres Felipe

            Thank you very much my dear sister. You are right, the issue of political corruption and the desperation to survive the economic conditions is difficult, but do you know one thing? I am very happy that I have friends far away from my country who care. Thanks to my sister

  • Sam Knight

    They should write letters to Russian government to serve as a warning and to draw media attention. They should already be praying for God’s Kingdom to come. The little dictator in Russia may well receive a humiliating strike across his back from Christs rod of iron. And the whole world will see it.

    • Brian

      Yes, but so will all of the others, also you have no idea what Putin’s mind is and what his reaction to the Kingdom arriving is going to be, just more speculation.

      • Jamie Mac

        Brian, how about re-wording that in more curteous way.

        • Brian

          I am not sure what you want me to say, the person can’t have any idea what is going through someone else’s mind and therefore it is purely speculation.

    • Richard Long

      I appreciate your zeal and wish I could be so strongly moved by passion myself. Your love for the brothers is evident in abundance! Please never lose these! Don’t we already know that there is not a government (or media organization) on earth which takes the WT or Jehovah’s Witnesses seriously. WE don’t even take the WT seriously anymore. The Wesboro Baptist Church dingdongs get more attention from the governments and the media than we do. Would receiving 50 million form letters from 8 million people you think are mind controlled zombies move you to reconsider your position or just really piss you off, causing you to initiate your scorched earth strategic response to the zombie apocalypse? Further, if I’m reading Robert’s essays correctly that we are in fact, at this moment in time, praying for Jehovah’s YET FUTURE Kingdom to come as opposed to watching its already established slow motion progression across a century and praying for it to finally finish coming, I’m not sure we should expect Jesus to be disciplining anyone but us. I’m also reminded that at the time we and the world observe Christ in action, the Eighth King will be in or about to be in power, having already dispatched Mr Putin, who we all agree is a vile megalomaniac, who is apparently one of or even the last world leader(s) for better or worse clinging to the sovereignty of his nation state in opposition to the NWO. Of course I long for the new system as do we all, and the sooner the better. At the same time, given my own sense of personal lack of readiness having only just begun to recover from the trauma of waking from the 1914 delusion and still unsettled on how to proceed regarding meetings and service, I’m not in the same category of hurry as many. Robert’s essays have made me more profoundly know what the WT has always told us that those to be saved wild be done so from an utterly desperate state of existential vulnerability at likely the last moment possible. I pray I may be ready when the time comes because I certainly do NOT feel ready now.

  • I didn’t realise until the other day that the Witnesses in Russia have agreed (I guess after being instructed by the Governing Body) to not even read Watchtower literature at their Kingdom Hall meetings. How can this be? Shouldn’t we obey God and not man?

    • Richard Long

      Assuming the Watchtower literature is actually from God might actually be more dangerous than the Russian government.

    • KB

      The Watchtower is all about compromise if it fits their agenda of not losing assets in Russia. The Bible is put on a shelf, so to speak. The Watchtower loves to preach the scriptures to the average JW, but it itself does what’s best for Watchtower.

  • SilverPhoenix55

    When I first heard about the ban on Russian Witnesses and the subsequent letter writing campaign I wondered why the GB would resort to this? If I as a JW were to write a letter carefully outlining a question or concern that the GB either couldn’t or wouldn’t answer, my letter would at best be ignored/thrown away, or sent back to my Kingdom Hall for the ‘local brothers’ to deal with. What makes them think that the Russian authorities are going to pay any attention to letters written by however many people decrying their policy? Further, I agree with Joseph Stephan that the WTB&TS is more concerned with their financial assets than they are with the lives and freedom of the thousands of Witness living in Russia.

    • KB

      If president Putin received 8,000,000 letters and he could read one letter every 2 minutes, it would take him 30 years night and day to read them all. I’ve heard each JW is writing 5 letters each. Thats 40,000,000 letters. So he has his work cut out for him for the next 150 years. Its obvious that they don’t intend of him to read the letters. It’s about drawing attention to the situation. Drawing attention to a situation always boosts donations. It’s all about money, one way or the other.

      • Thanks KB for putting that into perspective.

        The last time I did a mass mailing to elders using email there was such a backlash of protest that my mail service shut my account down without warning. I had incensed JW elders emailing me demanding to know how I got their email and why I felt the need to contact them. Believe me, I took the opportunity to point out to each one the hypocrisy of JW’s objecting to receiving an unsolicited Bible-based message .

        As far as the Russia situation, Putin has probably already arranged for several large recycle dumpsters to be dropped off behind the postal sorting center at the Moscow airport.

      • Here’s a photo on Instagram of one JW family’s effort to top the 40 million mark https://www.instagram.com/p/BSMyPKDAVDG/?taken-by=jw_instapictures&hl=en

        • KB

          Everyone seems to be posting pictures of the letters that were written on social media. They love the praise and glory from each other, big pats on the back for being so obedient I guess. I understand the way they feel, years ago I guess I would’ve been in the middle of it to. It’s interesting that a few men have such a control over millions. I guess we will see the results of their efforts on April 5th. Putins nobodys fool though. I feel like we are way too close to the end for this not to be part of Jehovah’s plan for prophecies to actually begin to be fulfilled. Know matter how many letters are written, you will not stop Jehovah from accomplishing his will, nor will you decide for him what his will is, prayer is the only course of action to take. Certainly an interesting time to be alive. Each letter I heard cost $1.15 to mail to Russia. Anywhere from 9 to 46 million in postage alone. That could of bought a lot of first class plane tickets around the world, also Rolex watches for the GB for every day of the week, and plenty left over.

        • Burt Reynolds

          I would be ashamed to send a letter addressed in such a sloppy manner. You’re probably right about the dumpsters.

          • Maybe these letters were written by a child? Why attack the “sloppiness” of the addressing? At least this person is trying to help. My writing standard is not much better 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes, you are quite right. I’m sorry. I was locked into feeling upset at the seemingly perverse mindset the watchtower has of using the congregation, as well as the fact that presentation is important if you expect to get a hearing. Also I was exasperated at the thinking that overkill in letters is going to get the Russian governments attention in a favourable manner, when it is so clear that if the watchtower sent a delegation from the governing body to explain our beliefs, that would be far more beneficial. But no, they don’t, for reasons that have already been explained by others. The fact is that if you want a hearing in this world in front of governments and kings, you actually need the voice of Jehovah behind you. One would hope a humbly addressed letter might carry weight, but the truth is, it does not. It forms an adverse opinion before it is even opened. The whole matter is being distanced from those that should be caring for the flock and it is they, the so called leaders, that should be doing this work with the support and on behalf of the congregation of Jehovah. But yes, you are right and I should not have derided the letter. Sorry.

            • Richard Long

              I cannot help but notice that your heart is even deeper than your mind. I so wish for the privilege of knowing you in paradise.

            • Burt Reynolds

              You accredit me with too much Richard !

        • JS

          Are people writing to the Russian Federation in their own native tongue?

          If so isn’t that a waste of time since they read and speak Russian?

      • I doubt if Mr Putin would read any of those letters himself, his staff will read them, and probably throw them in the garbage.

      • my God. idk what to say, just ridiculous to me

  • Joseph Stephan

    The catalyst for a complete ban is that the “faithful slave” sent a letter in January. It required transferring all of the witnesses’ property in Russia to the name of a foreign legal entity. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/940dd08ebe0d3d5c108feb9bf881b14b65436b810085d4748cc8eb1a834b3739.jpg

    • Song of Hannah

      Might you have a link to share of said letter?

      • JS

        Good morning ,
        You’ll have to ask brother Lev from the Russian Federation.
        https://disqus.com/by/disqus_PrzUH8pcaq/

        • Song of Hannah

          Thanks I will!

          • Richard Long

            I think Robert posted a link somewhere… I’ll look. I had it “read to me” on one of the JW hater sights. They got it in Russian and had to google translate it.

  • To be honest, I don’t see what is wrong and why people are getting so upset about JWs writing letters to the Russian government. If a JW wishes to write these letters in support of his brothers and sisters in another country, what is wrong with that? When the letter was read out in the KH the other day, it wasn’t telling us we had to write these letters, it was giving us the opportunity to do so if we wished. I do not intend to write such letters, but rather I am praying for them instead. I think it’s nice that people want to support others that they care about, and if a mass letter writing campaign has even a small chance of swaying the supreme court to rule in favour of the JWs, then what’s the harm? Maybe some JWs want to do more to help than just praying. If so, then perhaps being part of the letter writing campaign will help them to do more. I bet if anybody here was locked up in a foreign country and their family and friends all wrote letters of support for you to the government of that country, you’d be touched and be happy to know that you have people who care for you and are trying to help.

    • Daisy

      What makes you think that the Russian Supreme court will be swayed by anything?

      • To be honest, I doubt it will. But it’s worth trying. Better than sitting back, wringing one’s hands but doing nothing.

        • Richard Long

          Well, the governing body COULD try wrestling control of the corporation from the Illuminati lawyers they have surrendered it to, dissolving it, returning title to real estate to the congregations, liquidating all other assets to appropriately compensate child/sexual abuse victims, and start preaching from door to door in Siberia at their own expense, in their “spare” time, in vehicles and clothing purchased by the sweat of their own brow, using just their bibles and Jehovah’s spirit? Maybe????

          • Richard Long

            Yes, I know I’m a jerk, but for every flog I’ve taken trying to defend the organization over the past 25 years, they get one back. Plus a few for the guilt I get to carry for being the indifferent, mind controlled, racist zombie I allowed myself to become while nesting under their wings.

            • Song of Hannah

              Richard I have really appreciated all your comments. But this one leads me puzzled. I understand how you could become an indifferent and mind controlled zombie while nesting under their wings, but I don’t understand how you became more racist. As I’ve only seen other’s racist tendencies diminish under their rule, never increase.

            • Richard Long

              Well, I spent 4 hours writing a response but the site ate it. Can I just retract the word racist and let the comment stand?

            • I’ve been having the same problem today.

            • Anita Wessel

              Daisy is a witch, just for your information

            • Song of Hannah

              Absolutely! Oh man I hate when that happens! I become a raving lunatic over it. lol Started typing everything into my email program whenever I had more than a few words to say, because it drives me so crazy. ?

            • Richard Long

              I have rewritten the piece, or what I could remember it, but hesitate to puke it out here in front of everyone. Is there anyone besides Robert that can “review ” it pre posting.

            • Richard Long

              Well, I rewrote what I could remember of it offline, just really reluctant to “puke” it all out here in front of everyone without some form of moderator review. I like this garden. I don’t like it when others litter here and don’t want to be a litterbug myself. Racism is such a very ugly subjuct.

            • Song of Hannah

              You are welcome to email me – songofhannah at zoho.com. (Let me know and I’ll delete this.)

            • Richard Long

              my email says you have it.

            • Song of Hannah

              Okay give me time to reply. And thanks!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I feel your pain, I can’t tell you how many times that I had written something in the comment box and then pressed the reply button and all of a sudden “Poof” it was gone forever.

              P.S. Richard I have enjoyed reading your comments thank you and welcome to the ewatchman.

            • KB

              When I do a long comment I generally use the notes app on my iPad. I type it out, try to proof read, then copy it. Then just paste it when you open the reply button. Keeps you from losing everything. Disqus is squirrelly sometimes.

            • KB

              I know. I used to think so much this organization, like it could do no wrong, until something just clicked. I would defend it, but after a closer look i realized some aspects of it are not worthy of defense. I use Gods word to direct my steps, not mans interpretation of Gods word, to fit their agenda, from the GB.

            • As somebody who has been associating with the Jehovah’s Witnesses for almost 4 years (3.5 years as a “Bible Student”, one month as an unbaptised publisher), I have heard a lot, been told a lot, and read a lot about what the WBTS teaches. I have noticed that many JWs will accept what the GB teaches in its magazines etc without seemingly thinking about it. I note how, when the GB teaches a change in thinking (“new light, which gets brighter”) many JWs will accept it without, it seems, even giving it any consideration. However, I don’t think all JWs are as gullible as some believe them to be. I am sure a lot of them have doubts, but, unfortunately are too frightened to even think it, let alone say it. I am a vary stubborn, strong-minded person, not the type to instantly accept something as truth until I have seen all the facts.. Perhaps it’s the ex-military policeman in me that causes me to be like that.

              Whenever I read something in the WT magazines/books I will always go to Scripture to see if it backs up what is being said. If the scripture appears to support it (and not just in the verse(s) the WT direct us to, but throughout the harmony of the Bible), then I am prepared to accept it. If it doesn’t, I won’t.

              Many of the “rank-and-file” JWs are actually decent kind and caring people. It’s the WTBS leaders that are the ones who will face the judgement in the end. The shepherds, not the sheep.

              I think if somebody falls so deeply in love with the organisation and with ALL of its teaches, without hesitation, without thinking about what they are being taught, then I think there is (was) something wrong with that person themselves. Perhaps they were looking for somebody to hold them by the hand and tell them what to do. The WTBS (or indeed any religion) filled that hole, that desire, that need.

              I really enjoy being a JW, but it doesn’t meant to say that I blindly accept all of its teachings, I am sure there are many more JWs who feel the same way, even if they won’t admit it even to themselves.

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    • Richard Long

      Some here, myself included, are questioning not only the tactical soundness of the WT’s actions but their motives as well. I pray for the brothers, for their safety and endurance. I pray for the powers that be in the Russian Federation to realize that how they deal with Jehovah’s people will dictate how Jehovah deals with them and show restraint. I pray for the governing body to remove its collective head from its armpit.

      • KB

        Lol. Armpit? You are too kind brother.

        • Richard Long

          Something my very loving JW step-mother used to say. Sad to say on my part, the expression was third or fourth on the menu, but chosen after much discussion with my “better self”.

  • Michael Newkirk

    Did he say SHEBNA? Pleasssssse?. Anyhow, point is still made.. Along with his help jehovah expects his people to use whatever means necessary of their own strengths and efforts in order to resolve an issue, and where they have exhausted their powers or efforts Jehovah carries out the rest as in King Hezekiah’s case.

    There is obviously too much ignorance with ill-informed stupidity to reply to any ONE individual post?

    So again! This letter writing campaign is MORE about bringing relief to our brothers for preaching the message, but is also being in an effort to prevent the work from being banned or stopped..

    However you’re right about ONE THING.. it isn’t necessary for all 8,000,000 Jehovah’s Witnesses to write letters of appeal to Russia, but then again neither did the GB require them too, it was an invitation.. but the end game to doing this is to help show a few things from the standpoint of JW.. and it will also reveal a few things from the position of the Russian Government..

    Either OUTCOME will be a POSITIVE for Jehovah’s Witnesses in the end, but will also put the world on notice or heightened alert about these people..

    So whichever way it goes is not really a LOSE for them?

    • Well said, Michael Newkirk! I am not partaking on the letter writing campaign myself, rather I wish to pray about it instead, to offer spiritual support. If a JW wishes to write a letter of support for people he cares for, then I can’t see the problem or harm in doing so. If I was in prison, or facing prison, and my family/friends wrote letters to the government in support of me, I’d be extremely grateful knowing that there are people out there who are concerned about me and want to help.

    • Beverly kenyon

      Mmmm…..now I wonder who Shebna pictures and who he reminds a person of?! Wonder who they could be?

      • Michael Newkirk

        Lol. Another loser? your point is moot in its entirety.. please go bye bye and no message me again?

        • Beverly kenyon

          Mega lol. Was just mooting the idea is all….don’t get upset. ?? Sorry me message you again but me no do as I’m told by anyone! Cya later loser. Ta-ra.

        • Richard Long

          I can not see any justification for the tone or direction of this comment. EVERY persons on this forum, by virtue of posting is, for better or worse, inviting the scrutiny and rebuttal of all others here. Please defend your ideas or remarks and leave your ego at 1 Kings Drive.

          • Michael will not be able to defend his “ideas.” I have banned him from commenting here.

            • Crank it up! What a week…..
              https://youtu.be/S8Ppyskw5Vw

            • Richard Long

              As usual, I am a day late (or 3) and a dollar short. It is abundantly clear that you have things in hand. Thank you for this place.

    • “jehovah expects his people to use whatever means necessary of their own strengths and efforts in order to resolve an issue”

      key word here being – “necessary”

  • Paulo Vicentini

    Regarding family disruption you are really seeing from the wrong standpoint.
    Jesus did not say that his followers would for some reason voluntarily stop associating with members of their families.
    It is the other way around:
    What Jesus really meant was that his followers would be victims/target of discrimination / expulsion / ostracism by members of their own families.

    John 9:22
    His parents said these things because they were in fear of the Jews, for the Jews had already come to an agreement that, if anyone confessed him as Christ, he should get expelled from the synagogue.

    John 16:2 Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God.

    Luke 6:27 But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you, 28 to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.”

    Do you really expel someone you love???

    31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them.
    32 “If you love those loving you, of what credit is it to you? For even the sinners love those loving them.+ 33 And if you do good to those doing good to you, of what credit is it to you? Even the sinners do the same

    Russia is doing to JW as JWs are doing to members of their family.

    35 On the contrary, continue to love your enemies and TO DO GOOD and to lend without hoping for anything back;

    Disassociation: Would it really be “to do good”?
    Are JWs really without hoping for anything back?

    • “would for some reason voluntarily stop associating with members of their families.”

      uh yeah, thats exactly what he said – “everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or property, for my sake, will receive a hundred times as much in return and will inherit eternal life.”

      • Richard Long

        I’ll say it again, DA, only I’ll use more words. You are a person of great depth, humble and abundant in love for Jehovah and the humanity HE HIMSELF has labored so intensely to preserve and develop. I hope you can see yourself the way we see you.

  • Anita Wessel

    There is a FAMOUS Jewish proverb, it says ” Pray to God but still tie up your camels at night……….lol, when a friend is in need another friend will support you, but if you have no friends I guess that won’t happen will it?. Looks like the blind is leading the blind here, lolol..becareful of that ditch…lolo… so you believe to pray to God only? talk about dumb, you dont pray to God and go limp…lol well maybe you do,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe you came from a monkey but I didnt. loloo THIS MADE MY DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLLOL

  • Anita Wessel

    you mean Jonah didnt have do do Anything to please God? You mean the apostles only prayed to God to get things done??????They didnt travel, almost get killed, starve, die to get thier message out? Wow! The bible could have saved us alot of reading time by just making a list of people who prayed for God to do something and hurry!!LOOLOL, I’m Sorry I have TEARS Im laughing so hard.lolol..lolol LOOK at Abrahm, man he really sat around!!!!!lololol……….Look at Jesus……… well he is in a catagory all by himself but the man never taught ANY of his followers to JUST PRAY!!!!!!!!!!! He taught them,THEM ONLY, not the whole world of people just his followers, to travel, to preach and to follow his footsteps closely, I
    ‘ll bet when Jesus made a whip to drive out all the money makers from the temple took effort!!!!!!!!!He didnt sit on the steps and pray to God. God gave us calculating brains and we like to use them, monkeys dont have calculating brains, they just follow each other.

    • how many letters did Jonah send to Nineveh and why is 8million letters better then 1million? explaine.

      who here said just pray? Pro 18:13

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c3e239a5eefb86a17c1d2108c9d12fec2dd597f243b45167f5748257aa5efc8.jpg

      • So I’m guessing that if Weasel got swallowed by a huge whale, She wouldn’t Shi# her swimsuit and sit in the stinky mouth quivering praying and pleading to Jehovah for rescue. Instead she would floss it’s teeth, scape it’s tonsils swim out and give it a enema! Hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha lollooloolol

        • nah, probably light a candle and start writing a letter

        • KB

          LOL! ???. I can’t see for all the tears, I’m laughing so hard!

      • Anita Wessel

        Jonah didn’t have paper..lol

    • Daisy

      Ah….the power of the Book of Bible Stories…

      • Anita Wessel

        It gotcha didn’t it?

        • Richard Long

          {not even worthy of a sigh}

          • Beverly kenyon

            That’s funny! ???

        • Bklyn Kevin

          You obviously smell your own stench and are self projecting.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up3Y5WUWy-k

          • Anita Wessel

            Hey Kevin, I thought that was you! Are you still eating bananas on you tube? What’s all the sighing? Sounds a little cultish? Do u sit in a circle and do it or do you e sigh….lol, I’m cracking myself up here. Do you go door to door with your e watchman or do you pray and go limp? The comment was why do the witnesses need mail when Christ is ruling? Another was the apostles just prayed, go and be well fed…so which is it? Do they throw their friends on the fire or do they help them? I’m, that’s not txt, wondering,but I,m sure the big four of you already know the answer,,,,this is your sign to the world? At least the witnesses reached someone when they had placards, now that’s courage. They didn’t have coffee, eat bananas,gab with friends in their warm little homes like your doing! Ha look who looks foolish and I think I feel a sigh coming on, no I’m sorry it was a fart. Yumm EEE. I,d rather smell my stench than listen to how your protecting the world from the witnesses…lololol, or is it, Ella oh ell, not sure anymore. I wonder what it sounds like when you all sigh together? This is much easier than replies to all the big four. what else are you doing to protect the world. Have you written Russia? Bet that 8 mil coulda come in handy after all,huh? Are you preaching from the pulpit? I know you attend their meetings and order all their free books, how else do u know so much? You didn’t see in th news ex catholic commits suicide? Ex catholic got excommunicated? Any ex Jews who are suffering the same? Where’s your sword of righteousness for them? Don’t you love people in general? I’m sorry you are bigots! You are serving our own agenda not out of love for people who are suffering everywhere. Just your own selfish cause! Where is the list for all these crimes? Where are the money schemes? You don’t have proof of anything, just keep sitting in your house where you belong. You probably wouldn’t know fake news if it hit ya in the face! Look where your feeding at, it’s disgusting. Get me a list of crimes with people’s names. Your pathetic, talk to you tomorrow, this rant is therapeutic.thx for the replies everyone. You’ve got a friend in me now.

      • Anita Wessel

        To bad disfellowshipping is your sore spot, you ride the horse well.

        • Beverly kenyon

          How would you know disfellowshipping is a sore spot for Daisy? You don’t know the woman!! You’re just throwing out random insults. What are they teaching you young ones in KH’s?! Hateful and you actually think you’re doing God a service! Deluded and Thick!

        • Richard Long

          {silent suffering sigh}

      • Anita Wessel

        Daisy do you bully everyone? You were the first one to bully me. Does it make you feel better. It’s weird your hanging out here. Weird. You probably have old books huh? Or someone in your family has an education and you hate them for that. You can blame all the Witnesses u want, just don’t blame God. The witnesses can take it, what your doing is not new? Get behind something that counts cuz your not taking the witnesses down, it’s not gonna work out for ya. What are you trying to prove to people? You must have a HUGE ax to grind…maybe you should work out or something to get rid of stress, how this is bringing you peace I see not. people and organizations are not perfect, work on the research for pedogate and make some real noise there.

        • Beverly kenyon

          Awww, now you’re playing the ‘bully card’. ? Daisy is too much of a lady to bully anyone Anita Weasel, oh, sorry, Wessel. How pathetic you saying about how Daisy won’t be taking the witnesses down! Juvenile! Like she has the time or inclination to do something like that. She must’ve hit a sore spot for you to react with your childish ramblings. And thank you Captain Obvious for taking the time to point out people are not perfect and the noise you’re making here is soooo annoying!

          • Burt Reynolds

            Thats not Daisy’s job! That’s my job! I’m taking all the witnesses down….right down to wonderful gathering of us all when all this is over.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah Burt, taking the witnesses down….down to Chinatown! No Burt, Daisy has a master plan for taking the witnesses down. She is villainess…a real villain!

          • Daisy

            Easy tiger! Our Prince of Peace is on his way…
            How can ones see when the stupid prophets walking after their own spirit can’t see…

        • Beverly kenyon

          Here’s a radical thought for you Anita Wessel, prise yourself off your comfy sofa, go get your friends, make up some placards, get yourselves off to Russia and make your way to Red Square and demonstrate against Putin’s Ban….you know the old fashion way of trying to make a difference, trying get your voice heard. That would be impactful and maybe grab the media’s attention to the witnesses plight! But wait, yeah, that would take too much effort for a precious princess like you, you might break a nail making those placards as it’s much more fun being a keyboard warrior!

        • Richard Long

          {rolling of the eyes sigh}

        • Bklyn Kevin

          How Pathetic you LOOK playing the victim.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZZlQ4Tmrc

    • Richard Long

      {exasperated sigh}

  • Anita Wessel

    I love to lololol, I have evidence oh would be deleter of comments, the battle is already won

    • Richard Long

      {even heavier sigh}

  • Anita Wessel

    Plz do write your witty thoughts as they are highly entertaining

    • Richard Long

      {heavier sigh}

  • Anita Wessel

    You have so many uneducated comments, it’s just a cornicopia! Please I thought my email suffered a drive by shooting! Where is you freedom of religion? Where is your free speech here? I’m glad you don’t have anymore power than you do because look what you’d do with it!

    • Richard Long

      {heavy sigh}

  • Anita Wessel

    I can’t wait to get your emails, i shall read them with my coffee and buscuits in the morning while I go over how people think Pizzagate is fake news. Why look there are a bunch of frogs coming out of their mouths.

    • Richard Long

      {sigh}

  • Danger Will Robinson Danger!

    https://youtu.be/RG0ochx16Dg

    Hay, this would make a great post when weirdos show up on this site!

    • KB

      Troll alert activate. Form of a weasel.

  • e.v.g

    I suppose JW’s are going to plead to the modern egypt during the time of the end, I guess they are just going to follow the advice of their leaders. I think It will be a great test.

  • Sorry, just a quick test post as I keep having my posts labelled as spam, and they keep disappearing from here. They contained no links or swears.

  • Anita Wessel

    Hey there big four! Did you see the excatholic committed suicide? What about thr excatholic that that was excommunicated? The ex Jew? How come you don’t protest march. We all need a list of witness crimes against humanity. Where is the list? How come you only attack the witnesses? Is it because your catholic? I don’t think a Mormon would send me filthy videos of a monkey. Why don’t you post it here? I think everyone would like to see it. I’ll post it some other time, wink wink. Did you see the news where Catholics are molesting children? oh that’s a new thought.

  • Anita Wessel

    Please send me more filthy videos of a monkey, or was it you?

  • Anita Wessel

    You are the king of trolls? Your filthy monkey video was a very good. Representation of yourself. How do you smell?

  • Anita Wessel

    That monkey turns you on, I can tell.

  • Anita Wessel

    If you have any questions about JWs and their literature you can go directly to Daisy, she has all their books but she pretends not to, if she don’t like you she will also send you A fILTHY video of monkeys rubbing their butts and then smelling their hands, it was so discusting I couldn’t watch the whole video, now let Daisy as she casts her magic over her books help you with your bible…..what’s the future Daisy. Are you looking in your liver today or your perverted movies. please tell us about Moloch.

  • Anita Weasel has been banned and her posts deleted

    • Jamie Mac

      Hi Robert, some of her comments were just vile. Is it my imagination, but you seemed to be banning more and more people recently. I really hope the new visitors who just come and upset is not part of a growing trend.

      • It’s been a trend this week, the Russian thing is a sore spot for the blind.

        Robert’s mato, if your heart is not here to learn and help your fellow brothers and sisters. Then its ax time !!

        Love it, thanks for keeping your site free of vipers!

      • Traffic to this site has been increasing over the past several months. With it comes the usual Internet trolls and what-have-you. The thing is, if someone has no history as a commenter here and just shows up baiting and bashing, I don’t hesitate to cut them off. No point to allow them to stay on.

        • Burt Reynolds

          Is there scripture that points to the attitude of many of the witnesses to challenge here? I never spoke to (assumed ) opposers the way this lady did, or feel the anger and venom she seemed to feel. It’s as though something greater has overcome them, something that challenges their security and an anger at those that do not agree with them, when the correct response should be loving concern, as with the shepherd. I can see why they would give up family members to death in the near future.

    • Love it !

      I-need-a weasel you just bit the dust, snap chat that you self righteous naysayer.

      https://youtu.be/S8Ppyskw5Vw

  • As somebody who has been associating with the Jehovah’s Witnesses for almost 4 years, 3.5 years as a Bible Student, one month as an unbaptised publisher, I have heard a lot, been told a lot, and read a lot about what the WBTS teaches. I have noticed that many JWs will accept what the GB teaches in its magazines etc without seemingly thinking about it. I note how, when the GB teaches a change in thinking, new light, which gets brighter, many JWs will accept it without, it seems, even giving it any consideration. However, I don’t think all JWs are as gullible as some believe them to be. I am sure a lot of them have doubts, but, unfortunately are too frightened to even think it, let alone say it. I am a vary stubborn, strong-minded person, not the type to instantly accept something as truth until I have seen all the facts. Perhaps it’s the ex-military policeman in me that causes me to be like that. Whenever I read something in the WT magazines/books I will always go to Scripture to see if it backs up what is being said. If the scripture appears to support it, and not just in the verses the WT direct us to, but throughout the harmony of the Bible, then I am prepared to accept it. If it doesn’t, I won’t. Many of the rank-and-file JWs are actually decent kind and caring people.

    • It’s the WTBS leaders that are the ones who will face the judgement in the end. The shepherds, not the sheep. I think if somebody falls so deeply in love with the organisation and with ALL of its teaches, without hesitation, without thinking about what they are being taught, then I think there might be something wrong with that person themselves in the first place. Perhaps they were looking for somebody to hold them by the hand and tell them what to do. The WTBS or indeed any religion filled that hole, that desire, that need. I really enjoy being a JW, but it doesn’t meant to say that I blindly accept all of its teachings, I am sure there are many more JWs who feel the same way, even if they won’t admit it even to themselves.

  • Yuri

    As we all here know from the scriptures WT must be destroyed at the end. What we see in Russia today it is small fragment of what will be with all WT organization. Jehovah will allow the world to destroy this spoiled organization. They became too arrogant and they must be punished. No letters or political petitions will help.

  • Dy Dv

    Im almost sure that our HQs gonna be shut down because ROC really hates JWs in Russia,seeing them as a possible threat to itself.And frankly all this nonsense with writing letters looks to me like nothing more than trying to stop a train by shooting it with a gun.Anyway lets see whatll happen on April 5th…

  • Vicky

    First of all we have been asked to pray for our Russian brothers along with prayers for all our brothers and sisters world wide. We continually pray for our brothers and sisters for strength and holy spirit to endure persecution, wherever they are. Also we are encouraged to stay with our husbands or wives, as marriage is sacred. Learning the truth and following Jehovah frees you and teaches you to love and forgive, it certainly doesn’t destroy people’s lives. Learning about the good news gives you hope for the future and helps you cope with this satanic system.

    JW’s keep politically neutral and believe faith that is involved with mankind’s governments are part of Babylon the Great, which mankind will destroy just before the great tribulation.

    The letter writing was to show support for our brother and sisters in Russia and to encourage them that we are with them in their persecution. Of course we hope that the supreme won’t implement the ban, because it will cause immense pain to our fellow believers. Our main source of strength is through prayer, so we are all fervently praying for our brothers and sisters. Also, our brothers and sisters will be praying too in Russia for strength from Jehovah.

    • Beverly kenyon

      Your average JW may be politically neutral but not so the Watchtower in 1992 when they became an Associate NGO with the United Nations Vicky….yeah, that’s right fornicating with the Beast until they were caught and it became public knowledge because of a breaking news article in the Guardian newspaper on 8th October 2001. I’ll let you add up the years of their illicit affair with the Beast and not once have they owned up and repented of that gross sin so technically they’re still guilty and therefore are part of Babylon the Great according to what you’ve wrote there in your post. So hopefully when the call to ‘ get out of HER MY PEOPLE…notice in Rev: 18:4 where the voice out of heaven says, MY PEOPLE not any other people, and what people are known by his name….Yeaaah, Jehovah’s Witnesses. And that’s why they got rid of Brother King because he spoke up about their betrayal.

      • Vicky

        I have checked the watchtower 1992, there are many as you know, where is this? I saw an article about the UN and peace and security, it explains what was happening then, and told JW not to put faith in these man made organisations, but to trust in Jehovah and his new government to come, who will undoubtedly bring peace to the world. I don’t believe the gutter press, Guardian included, they are biased and full of lies. They are owned by wealthy globalists and have their own agendas. As you know we are all imperfect, even JW, but we do try and live by Jehovah principles in his word the Bible.

        • Jamie Mac

          Hi Vicky, please check this out.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DS0aKAfluA

          • Vicky

            This is untrue, King is disfellowshipped from JW for telling lies and spreading slanderous rumours about the UN association. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/472da50e28b71e6d0ff6a3a0d12026241d6889827a8ab3dfaabc197236d818fd.png

            • Actually, this is not true. What is true, is that, the mass mailing resulted in a judicial committee being formed. However, I was not disfellowshipped, the reason being that I had not spoken about the matter in the local congregation. And for a fact, neither the WT nor the local elders disproved anything that I stated. However, some months later I did another mass mailing calling for the WT to apologize. That really ticked them off and they started a new judicial committee. At that point I made them aware that 1914 was a fraud and that a book was in the works. That sealed my fate. Although, from Jehovah’s standpoint the WT sealed its own fat by their treachery and duplicity.

            • Yes, I seemed to recall you saying that it was your disbelieve in the 1914 thing that caused them to disfellowship you, rather than the UN thing.

            • Vicky

              You were disfellowshipped that is the truth and you seem very bitter about it, though if you don’t believe in the JW organisation why you would be so is strange. Like all of us we have the gift of free will from God and can choose where we put our allegiance and who we believe in. Show proof and evidence to show your accusations to JW. Thank you.

            • Hi Vicky. I don’t think Mr King was denying being disfellowshipped, but I think he was saying that the reasons you gave were not why he was disfellowshipped. He was disfellowshipped because he didn’t accept the 1914 thing, and because he had written a book that went against some things that the Watchtower taught.

            • Vicky
            • I am not bitter at all. “Indignant” is probably a better description. I resent the lies the WT resorts to. But as for my belief in the JW organization, you obviously do not get the sense of what e-watchman is about. I absolutely believe that the Watchtower has been an instrument of God. And for that reason it will be held accountable by him. That is what JehovahHimself Has Become King is all about.

              As for the proof, in the book there is a chapter entitled Strange Bedfellows (renamed The Partnership in 3rd edition) in which I thoroughly document the extent of the WT’s involvement as an associate NGO. http://jehovah-is-king.com/strange-bedfellows/

              The fellow Weldon, known as 3rd Witness is pretty much a con man. He has not addressed one aspect of what I have published. But apparently he is able to convince simple minded persons that he has. But that’s fine with me.

            • Vicky

              That’s fine, you have your beliefs and I have mine, I don’t want to buy your book to see what you say is evidence. If it’s in the name of Jehovah and has an important message you would not put a price tag on this. I am humble and love my father and his word. So if this makes me simple minded then let it be so. Thank you.

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Vicky, your not alone when it comes to being humble and loving our creator and his son. I cannot think of one person who regularly visits this site who does not meet that criteria.

              Those qualities will hopefully save our lives.

            • I didn’t put a price tag on it. Amazon did. I do not receive royalties though. Besides, I made an Internet version of the 1st and 2nd editions free, as well as Spanish and French. (A Dutch version is in the works) Also, the third edition is available as a free iTunes book and a PDF.

              A simple-minded person is one who does not examine the facts, but asserts that they are informed and need not be bothered with anything that contradicts their opinion.

            • Vicky

              It took me 7 years to be baptised until I had all my doubts and questions answered, by JW and by my prayers being answered from Jehovah. I question your motives, so maybe I’m not so simple minded after all.

            • Burt Reynolds

              You are speaking of the paradox. The organisation is Jehovah’s. The organisation is corrupted. How can that be! The organisation is still Jehovah’s organisation. Temple, if you will. Look in your bible to see the mirror of this corruption. I forget the scripture, but do please look it up for yourself. There is truth in the organisation, but so is corruption, both hand in hand. You will receive truth from the organisation, just as one found in days of yore, but now the deception is with it to lead people into reliance on the organisation more than Jehovah. Don’t be deceived! Please, see it for what it is, read about it, talk about it, make up your own mind on the facts, not what people tell you. That way you will make the outcome your own choice from the bible, and thus be able to stand by it in faith. It is for you to make the informed choice.

            • Richard Long

              I read your comment as “It took 7 years for my well founded skepticism to be eroded by the operation of error and my Jehovah-given free will to be subdued by my natural desire for belonging and personal emotional investment in a particular community.” To be clear, you are not being questioned as to your love for Jehovah, as it is evident in your fierce but unnecessary defense of Him. The question is do you really know Him as well as you think you do? Robert has plainly said Jehovah’s Witnesses are the possession of Jehovah, his “people” if you will. And what Burt says…

            • Richard Long

              For what it is worth, I’m a total freak about “the worker is worth his wages”. Won’t let my kids download music or other content without paying for it, won’t do it myself. It took about 5 minutes of “sampling” the content of Jehovah Himself to realize I must own it whatever it cost. I read online for convenience and loan out the book.

              To everyone else: The price Amazon has set CANNOT POSSIBLY contain a royalty. Further, when contacted directly some time ago regarding any need he might have, Robert promptly IGNORED that email, which is proof enough to me this effort is a labor of love for Jehovah and mankind. Just as one CANNOT con an honest man, no dishonest man can turn away free money.

            • Daisy

              Well I pledged one dollar a month to this site but it doesn’t show on my bank statements I’ve noticed which is just as well cos I think that’s a con…total rip off!

            • Richard Long

              Didn’t know the site had a “contribute” button. I am often quite willing to contribute per article on sites like Medium, and have emptied my pockets plenty of times for the “world wide work”, so I would be all the more willing to support the lifesaving work being done here.

            • Daisy

              Think there’s a coughing up podcast…PayPal thingy but can’t really remember as its past my bedtime brain capacity.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Here it is the information you were looking for..
              Although the whole notion of soliciting donations is distasteful to me and I have avoided it for a long time, this program marks the start of a so-called crowd-funding campaign that allows listeners to become “patrons” by pledging $1 per month, or more, in order to promote The Watchman’s Post on Google pay-per-click. Read more>
              Podcast #65 Link > https://e-watchman.com/podcast-65/
              Thank you for your support.
              Robert King.

            • Richard Long

              Thank you, Kevin. Done and done.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Mr King gives his time and his writings freely. It’s best not to Palm off an arguement with ‘you have your beliefs and I have mine’ because that serves not the cause of truth. You owe it to yourself to assure yourself of what is truth. You and all here carry in our mind the warning that false prophets roam the world and Satan seeks to decieve. If you are a witness, you know also that the judgement of Jehovah starts in his own house. You don’t go and vacuum your neighbours house before you’ve cleaned yours do you ? So, don’t be harsh on yourself. Seek truth where it may be found. Truth does not come and slap you round the face, it hides, conceals itself, it’s pathway is narrow and obscure, uphill and wearisome. The fact that it’s coming from somewhere unexpected, is to be expected. Barriers to keep you from it abound. Yourself myself, all of us as individuals, being but one. The Test is in your heart condition to recognise it, but conversely, Listen to what your heart is telling you and you will be deceived. So instead, Listen to what the bible is telling you and you will be rewarded. Here, it is not for you to win an arguement; that is not your salvation. It is instead, listening to the arguement and checking the scriptures. Jehovah will tell you the rest. Surely we can agree on that?

            • Mr King. Does your “Final edition” of ‘Jehovah Himself Has Become King’, have an audio edition too? Thank you.

            • No, it doesn’t. I just don’t have it in me to spend a month doing it again.

            • That’s a shame, as I love listening to audio books. 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              Listen to the edition that Robert has narrated. It’s all truth. The third edition is simply refined more in ease of understanding and does not contradict his other editions.

            • Beverly kenyon

              So what if Brother King was disfellowshipped….it was only according to their man made rules and the fact they couldn’t cope in him exposing lies and telling real truth. You want to think Brother King is bitter as it would match you being sour….come on Vicky luv, admit it…you are a bit sour! From Brother King walking out of their ‘kangaroo court’ to present day, he has produced a terrific amount of spiritual food….so much for being a ‘false prophet’ without support and blessings from Jehovah he would’ve simply folded and disappeared into beyond, but no, thousands visit this site, yeah, even doubting Thomas ones like you! So once again luv, Jehovah doesn’t need puny humans fighting his corner…remember Uzzah!

            • I agree that it doesn’t matter whether Mr King was disfellowshipped. However, I do disagree with your statement “so much for being a ‘false prophet’ without support and blessings from Jehovah he would’ve simply folded and disappeared into beyond”. If that were true there’d never be false prophets. Satan is a vary busy and deceitful being, and he does promote false prophets. So is possible for somebody to appear to be a successful prophet from God but have no support from Jehovah. Mr King is a vary knowledgeable person, but still I don’t hang onto his every word, accepting what he says as truth without first comparing what he says to what the Bible teaches.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Thank you Captain Obvious for that reminder about comparing what Brother King says to what the Bible says! No one has hijacked my mind and I’m very much in control of my critical thinking ability and my discernment also I’m well aware of the machinations of the Devil, the Adversary and how he carries off unsuspecting ones! Brother King is a true servant of God, dispensing true spiritual food to abused, unhapp, confused, spiritually malnourished lost sheep of Jehovah as does Perimeno….as Joseph said, another watering hole along with Baruq. It’s not a competition about being ‘successful’ or not it’s about getting the information out based on what God’s Word says. Brother King might not have it all right regarding prophecies but I know both him and Perimeno have got a lot right as it makes sense what they write and it’s reasonable and for me, I have a fairly good idea how events will unfold now as opposed to the ‘milk’ I used to be spoon fed by the WT and how most things applied to Christendom when Jehovah is clearly speaking to his People who bear his name and who reside in his House, the congregations. So no I don’t hang on to Brother King’s every word like a mindless robot, I ‘shop around’ but I know his explanation of scripture is reasonable and I will always visit this watering hole and listen to knowledgable comments from my fellow drinking companions. I’d rather listen any day to someone who doesn’t believe in harbouring Paedophiles, who doesn’t see Jehovah’s people as their own moneymaker and who doesn’t demean Jesus’ Parousia…he’s arrived, no, there he goes, oh, he’s back, no, he’s off again, oh, he’s gonna come back!! Eh!! Nonsensical and ridiculous!

            • Beverly, I wasn’t trying to be funny. Why are you so hostile to people? You claim to love Jehovah, but you certainly don’t reflect his love in the way you speak/treat people. How about showing us Jehovah’s love rather than your sarcasm?

            • Beverly kenyon

              Course you weren’t!! But if you’re honest you wanted me to say I’d been disfelowshipped didn’t you? Hostile! Hilarious. Are you on the ministry yet? Well, grow that thick skin pronto! You’re gonna need it! Some of us are not sitting around singing ‘kumbaya’ and sitting knitting with a shawl round my shoulders and a bonnet! I’m real and will stay true to myself by staying real. I don’t end a sentence or my conversations with scriptures just to prove I’m pious. But if I’m discussing the Bible then that’s different. This isn’t about showing love….something I don’t need you telling me about as I’m well aware of my imperfections…and have you got a couple of years to spare while we’re on that subject…no, this is about you trying to make me back down and bow to your greater knowledge! Would you give your life for me while you’re on the subject of Love? You don’t know me, you think I’m a sarcastic hostile person without love so, I’ll ask again, would you lay down your life for me? Because as a Christian that is the ultimate when you’re talking about Love! So skip your criticism about me lacking love, you don’t know but as a True Christian I will not take offence and forgive you as scripture says.

            • Did I want you to say you’d been disfellowshipped? No, not at all. In fact I was rather hoping it was the opposite. I was simply asking as I don’t really know people well here and was interested in your background.

              Would I lay my life down for you? No, probably not. Same as I am sure you wouldn’t lay your life for me. I would lay down my life for my best friend, who I love as if he were my own son, and he doesn’t even believe in God. >.<

              Thank you. I forgive you too 🙂

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, well that’s where we part company JW Student, because I would as that is a requirement as a Christian just like Jesus did for us. He set the example. Yeah. and I was right, I thought you wouldn’t so fortunate for me our paths will never cross! And as for your friend, well that’s a principled thing to do for your friend but as a witness, a sister related to you in the ‘Truth’ you would throw me under the bus. Lovely! And you’re criticising me about Love! Llllllllllooooooolllllllll! That’s how much I’m laughing! A JW who speaks up and knows her own mind and don’t talk like she’s swallowed the Bible and isn’t coming across as pious, course you were expecting me to be disfellowshipped and you’re not telling me different. Don’t judge a book by it’s cover and don’t stereotype and pigeon hole people…as they will always surprise you as you don’t know the secret heart of the person as much as everything is compartmentalised in your very ordered world. Sorry to disappoint you but I’m still very much a part of Jehovah’s people so looks like you’re going to have to get used to it and deal with it but don’t worry, if we should make it into Jehovah’s Tent when the dust settles on this old system, I’ll make sure I’m waaaaay over on the side so my unloving face won’t upset you.

            • Okay, so you’re a better Christian than I could ever hope to be. I know that Jehovah loves me despite my many faults, and I can assure you I have many. But despite your feelings towards me I’d still come over and day hi to you in the new system.

            • Beverly kenyon

              JW, last time I say this to you. It’s not a competition! Course Jehovah loves you as he’s drawn you to his House and you’re a different kind of witness in that you know things that are not being taught in the KH. Okay, I’ll say hi, just make sure you get there!

            • Richard Long

              I believe she would!

            • This reply may be duplicated somewhere as I am sure i was successful in replying a moment ago, but can’t see it. Anyway, no I wasn’t hoping you’d say you were disfellowshipped, in fact I was rather hoping it was the opposite. I just wanted to know what your background was, where you had come from. I don’t really know many here so I was just trying to learn who certain people are.
              Yes, I am on the ministry, though I must admit I haven’t really done many hours. I just feel really awkward about disturbing somebody who is reasonably expecting to sit at home and not be disturbed. Yet there i am knocking on their door. I genuinely feel so apologetic for doing so. That’s why I prefer the literature carts, though I am not allowed to do that yet.
              Would I lay my life down for you? Probably not, the same as you probably wouldn’t lay yours down for me. There are a few I would happily do so for, such as my best friend who I love like he was my own son, even though he doesn’t believe in God.
              Thank you. I forgive you too. 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              I can see you in a shawl and bonnet Beverly, knitting away!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Burt if I showed my friends that comment I would get ‘ripped’! Keep bursting out laughing at that. ?? I am not a shawl & bonnet girl! But I would like to knit…that’s a brilliant skill.

            • Richard Long

              Beverly you can knit Burt a new kilt!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Lol. Maybe not a full kilt but a sporran…yeah, a sporran and one for Jamie, don’t know if sporrans are knitted?! And I don’t know the tartan of Jamie’s clan??

            • Richard Long

              Now you’ve done it Beverly! You made me pull up Wikipedia!

            • Jamie Mac

              Richard, did you know a true Scotsman does not wear anything under his kilt. Gets a bit chilly in the winter months 🙂

            • Richard Long

              You had to go there, didn’t you, Jamie! lol. Yes, they screened “Braveheart” in the colonies, too. That’s why I’m hoping the two of you get more than just a sporran from Beverly.

            • Jamie Mac

              Ah Yes Mel Gibson, a true Scotsman, I think not ha ha

            • Richard Long

              And, actually, not Australian, either

            • Jamie Mac

              American I believe, with an Aussie accent and playing a Scotsman. Can’t get better than that. lol

            • Richard Long

              I guess Sir Sean passed on the role

            • Burt Reynolds

              Actually Beverly, not to contradict you, but I do hang on to every word Robert says because it’s bible based and verified! I allow him his opinions as he allows mine, and we all know, or should know, the difference between the two. And I hang on to others who speak truth, Perimeno being one of them, and all those who quote scripture for Jehovah’s sake. One day, we will have to hang on to the skirt of the Jew and make a decision without wavering or looking elsewhere.

            • Jamie Mac

              Burt, you might find a few of us hanging on to you hanging on to the skirt of a Jew :-).

              From a human viewpoint you have a lot of wisdom.

              Have you got any skirts in your wardrobe?

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes, but they are all bought from Primark, so if you should be so daft as to hold on to it, it will probably, no certainly come off in your hand! And I’m Scottish, so be warned. Hoots Mon!

            • Jamie Mac

              My dad is Scottish. I’m half way there. Perhaps it should be a kilt then 🙂

              By the way Scotland for me is the most beautiful place on earth.

            • Jamie Mac

              And what are you conclusions so far …. 🙂

            • I believe Mr King has a lot of good teachings to give. I particularly like the way he is not bitter against the JWs like some are, which makes me want to listen more. I disagree with his foretelling of WW3, but he really does talk a lot of sense about many things.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Here’s some more sarcasm for you. As an ex soldier/sailor why would you disagree with what Brother King says about Ww3? That made me laugh! Lol.

            • Beverly kenyon

              That’s a bit premature Jamie to ask that question of him as he’s still in the honeymoon phase. Wait till he’s baptised and they’ve stopped love bombing him! But I’ll say it again, he asks good questions and he’s here on this site so he’s in a unique position as a new witness. Wish that were me when I was studying. I would’ve been saved a lot of grief! Lol.

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Beverly, point taken. But JW Student has not disappeared yet into the void. He keeps coming back. Been an interesting day 🙂

            • Beverly kenyon

              Jamie, you’re so sweet. Lovely how Vicky disappeared! I don’t want him to disappear I want him to get out there while he’s fired up and tell about the coming Kingdom!

            • I have no proplem with anybody asking me their questions. I love Jehovah and I love being part of his organisation. I really enjoy associating with his people in the Kingdom Hall. No one organisation, people or religion has absolutely everything absolutely 100% correct. So I go where I feel happiest, and I am happiest with Jehovah’s Witnesses. Yes, even when I do eventually get myself baptised. 🙂

            • Jamie Mac

              🙂 don’t ever give up, you are definitely on the narrow path to salvation

            • Burt Reynolds

              That that is not so JW student. Be careful in repeating worldly excuses for fallibility in teaching. Jesus did not utter one lie, did not utter one ‘new light’ issue and acurately prophesied on all occasions given. Not one mistake. There is truth to be had. It’s in the bible. The fact that men do not repeat it, but put their own interpretation on it should be a salutary warning to you. Look to motive JW student, because if a lie is to be given, there is always a motive behind it. If a mistake is made in preaching, without motive to decieve, then that is rightly a mistake. Learn the difference between the two and serve Jehovah from the honest and equal quality of your mind, independant of all else.

            • But Jesus was a perfect man, the Son of the true God. All other humans are imperfect and make mistakes. Even his disciples made mistakes and they actually walked physically with Jesus. They heard his physical voice when they asked him questions, and had his wisdom face to face when he answered. We don’t have that today, hence why we imperfect humans can and do make mistakes when we try our best to listen to Jehovah. 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              My point was that of motive to decieve. Mistakes are made in telling the truth to be sure, though the wise would think twice before issuing something they were not sure of. However, inaccuracy is not a lie, but it can become to if its intent was to deceive. There is a difference. Follow the motive, as it underpins either the truth or the lie of what is being put forward. This is what builds faith.

            • Ah, yes I see what you were saying. Sorry. Boy, I love learning about Jehovah, even though I need Him to explain stuff to me in simple talk!

            • Burt Reynolds

              I was not disfellowshipped, and am still a member of the society, yet I believe what Robert shows is the truth from the bible. I.e., we agree on bible matters, not dependant on what he or I or others here say as men. You use internet facts to support your arguement and rightly feel you are reading truth. We all of us want to believe others tell us truth. However, there is only one reliable source of truth and that is the bible. Suspend your arguements for the time being from the Internet, and research just one of the topics discussed by e-watchman, from your bible, and see if it can be disproved, from the bible. That is your touchstone. It is the touchstone for all of us here. Do you think for one minute we hang here on the word of one man?! Take your own advice Vicky and search the scripture as an independant woman. If you find a lie in what is said here, then let me know. If you do not find a lie, let yourself know.

            • “However, there is only one reliable source of truth and that is the bible”

              Absolutely! Well said Burt. People everywhere think they know God and his teachings better than anybody else, but only the Bible has all the right answers. 🙂

            • Vicky

              Thank you Burt and I have read God’s Word the Bible and do daily. I also meditate on its meaning, as JW suggests to in our own private study. I have no problems with JW, and I know that Jehovah is behind them. I know they have made mistakes in interpretation and have said so, we are imperfect humans and try to maintain Jehovah’s high moral standards, in a declining, satanic system.

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Vicky, I don’t doubt for one minute your feelings towards Jehovah.

              Can I ask one question? Do you still accept the 1914 theory, If so, why?

              Actually that’s 2 :-).

            • Vicky

              APPENDIX
              1914—A Significant Year in Bible Prophecy
              DECADES in advance, Bible students proclaimed that there would be significant developments in 1914. What were these, and what evidence points to 1914 as such an important year?

              As recorded at Luke 21:24, Jesus said: “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations [“the times of the Gentiles,” King James Version] are fulfilled.” Jerusalem had been the capital city of the Jewish nation—the seat of rulership of the line of kings from the house of King David. (Psalm 48:1, 2) However, these kings were unique among national leaders. They sat on “Jehovah’s throne” as representatives of God himself. (1 Chronicles 29:23) Jerusalem was thus a symbol of Jehovah’s rulership.

              How and when, though, did God’s rulership begin to be “trampled on by the nations”? This happened in 607 B.C.E. when Jerusalem was conquered by the Babylonians. “Jehovah’s throne” became vacant, and the line of kings who descended from David was interrupted. (2 Kings 25:1-26) Would this ‘trampling’ go on forever? No, for the prophecy of Ezekiel said regarding Jerusalem’s last king, Zedekiah: “Remove the turban, and take off the crown. . . . It will not belong to anyone until the one who has the legal right comes, and I will give it to him.” (Ezekiel 21:26, 27) “The one who has the legal right” to the Davidic crown is Christ Jesus. (Luke 1:32, 33) So the ‘trampling’ would end when Jesus became King.

              When would that grand event occur? Jesus showed that the Gentiles would rule for a fixed period of time. The account in Daniel chapter 4 holds the key to knowing how long that period would last. It relates a prophetic dream experienced by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He saw a tree of enormous height that was chopped down. Its stump could not grow because it was banded with iron and copper. An angel declared: “Let seven times pass over it.”—Daniel 4:10-16.

              In the Bible, trees are sometimes used to represent rulership. (Ezekiel 17:22-24; 31:2-5) So the chopping down of the symbolic tree represents how God’s rulership, as expressed through the kings at Jerusalem, would be interrupted. However, the vision served notice that this ‘trampling of Jerusalem’ would be temporary—a period of “seven times.” How long a period is that?

              Revelation 12:6, 14 indicates that three and a half times equal “1,260 days.” “Seven times” would therefore last twice as long, or 2,520 days. But the Gentile nations did not stop ‘trampling’ on God’s rulership a mere 2,520 days after Jerusalem’s fall. Evidently, then, this prophecy covers a much longer period of time. On the basis of Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6, which speak of “a day for a year,” the “seven times” would cover 2,520 years.

              The 2,520 years began in October 607 B.C.E., when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and the Davidic king was taken off his throne. The period ended in October 1914. At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.*—Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14.

              Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.

              Chart: The seven times, or times of the Gentiles, calculated from Jerusalem’s fall until 2,520 years ended in October 1914
              From October 607 B.C.E. to October 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. Since there is no zero year, from October 1 B.C.E. to October 1914 C.E. is 1,914 years. By adding 606 years and 1,914 years, we get 2,520 years. For information on Jerusalem’s fall in 607 B.C.E., see the article “Chronology” in Insight on the Scriptures, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Vicky, yes seen that all before. I don’t mean to dismiss what you have typed in, that amount takes time to enter.

              Another question, have you personally witnessed any part of the sign in your lifetime?

              Please don’t bring overlapping generations into your answer.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Hello Vicky and welcome. I’m glad that you realize that the organization does make mistakes and I do agree with you when you said “Jehovah is behind them.

              so my question to you is – if these are Jehovah’s people why have they gone astray, I mean it’s apparent that that many of their prophecies are erroneous when compared to the bible and then again the watchtower tract society has many policies that are not Biblical in other words they are manmade.

              However I will leave that up to you to decide Based upon your own thorough research As the Apostle Paul had charged us all to make sure all things.

              30 Questions for Jehovah’s Witnesses.
              Excerpt:
              The apostle exhorted Christians to “make sure of all things.” The Watchtower Society even published a minister’s handbook by that title that is intended to aid Jehovah’s Witnesses to help others see the falsity of many of Christendom’s teachings. However, ought not Jehovah’s Witnesses also make sure of what the Watchtower teaches, particularly with regards to prophecy and the return of Christ?

              Most of the questions below are issues that have been dealt with on e-watchman dot com over the years, as well as in the book, Jehovah Himself Has Become King. To date the vast majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses remain oblivious to the manifold contradictions and absurdities that exist in the Watchtower’s interpretation of Bible prophecy.

              To demonstrate the depth of the Watchtower Society’s error in these matters I am inviting active Jehovah’s Witnesses, Bible studies and interested persons as well, to participate in a campaign to put some relevant questions directly before the Bethel elders who are assigned to respond to correspondence. Read more>https://e-watchman.com/30-questions-for-jehovahs-witnesses/

            • Burt Reynolds

              That is very true Vicky, but it is, unfortunately for all of us, not the issue. I refer to your illustration that we are all imperfect, therefore…etc. Jehovah is aware of our imperfection. Christ was too, but he still taught the truth, even though he knew, we could not attain it. What was the point of that, dangling a carrot before us that we could not reach? Could the reason be that perfection was not the goal at that time, but the CHOICE to choose the road to perfection so that we could attain it in Jehovah’s time? Therefore, we do not have to accept the failings of others. We do not have to accept ‘evidentlies’ and ‘our current understanding is…’ because Jesus has already given us all truth that we need to align ourselves with, for our salvation. Of what use is it to you, to me, to all of us, if we allow our need for clarity to be soiled with the corruption and motives of man? But we need teachers! How do we know if out teacher is true? Well, how did the disciples know? How did those listening to Noah and Moses and Ezekiel know? They were all men! You have to answer that question. But common to all of them, was their motive. Yes, you read your bible daily. Good. But who is your guide to its meaning? Do you understand it? I don’t! I’m reading Job right now, but I have great difficulty understanding the meaning of what Job is saying and how it applies because it seems contrary….Job telling Jehovah he has not sinned?! Ha! There is an answer but I’m going to discuss that with the sister that pointed it out to me when I have read all of it. Now, is my sister seeking to deceive me, or set me straight, help me, guide me. No, she will set before me her understanding from scripture, but the responsibility will be mine. The teacher will be the bible, the teacher will be Jehovah for there is no middle man. Jesus said, my sheep will recognise me voice and follow me. He did not say watchtower, Robert King, Perimeno…and yet, we learn though all of them. Therefore, by their (deeds), motive you will know them but by the bible you will prove their mettle. Now, can you defend the watchtower issues on child abuse by those standards? What about blood fractions? Compare the issues with what Christ said, and then, with those that support Christ’s stand. You can find all the independant legal issues on the Internet.

            • Richard Long

              And thank you for enduring this injustice on behalf of Jehovah, His King, and all of us other sheep. I am convinced you will take your place in the heavenly kingdom.

            • Joseph of Aramathea

              From time to time the Watchtower has reminded us of the need to prove to ourselves that what we believe is truly in harmony with God’s Word:

              It is important…that you “keep testing whether you are in the faith,” as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with
              God’s Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life.
              ─Watchtower, May 1, 1958 p.261; Is Your Religion the Right One?

              The builders and the passengers of the Titanic might sincerely have believed that the ocean liner was unsinkable. On its maiden voyage in 1912, however, it struck an
              iceberg and 1,517 people lost their lives. Certain first-century Jews might sincerely have believed in their way of worshiping God, but their zeal was “not according to
              accurate knowledge.” (Romans 10:2) For us to be acceptable to God, our sincere beliefs must be based on accurate information.
              ─Watchtower, February 1, 2003, p.32

            • Daisy

              I do believe the builders of the Titanic boasted that even God couldn’t sink that colossal death trap and he definitely didn’t bless that ship and all who sailed in her.

            • Daisy

              Joseph…help! Ed (TOE) has a blue face and is wearing sunglasses when I tap on his name to read and answer his comments. I can’t possibly scan and scroll 319 other comments to find him on the main page so this is the quickest way I can think of to ask him to please lift his privacy ban. Would appreciate if you do dear Ed. Sorry J 😀

            • Joseph of Aramathea

              Hello Daisy, yeah I know what you mean, nothing more annoying when you’re trying to follow up on a conversation only to be confronted with a BLUE Joe cool face……
              I don’t think some people realize their account is set to private.
              Sending you my love ❤❤❤
              Joseph S.

            • Ed(the other Ed)

              Hello There again! I only keep my account private because there’s to much spying going on in the world. For instance I don’t have a facebook account but I get emails in my google box from people in my past who I don’t want to have anything to do with. So I think all the emails are connected somehow. Kinda creeps me out. Anyways what’s up?

            • Burt Reynolds

              I suppose the problem is Other-Ed, is that it makes it very difficult for brothers and sisters to speak with you because we cannot easily locate your comment….and of course we value what you have to say. Having said that, I agree that it can be spooky on the Internet, but you don’t have to reply to people, and to be frank, if the government want to spy on my internet history, they are welcome to do so. I expect they have bugged my home anyway after what my son said to Tony Blair.

            • Ed

              What did your son say if you don’t mind me asking?

            • Burt Reynolds

              My son has a severe mental health affliction. He made threats against the, shall we say, ‘wellbeing’ of the prime minister, and so they arrested him and put him in broadmoor mental hospital for a year. It would have been nice if they had helped him, but the tactic is to confine and apply a medicinal cosh, rather than apply any positive therapy.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Well, Burt that’s a shame Blair wasn’t in the next bed to your poor son as your son was only saying out loud what a lot of people think about Blair the war criminal (allegedly, said sarcastically)! It’s disgusting how they treat the mentally unwell, vulnerable ones. Your son can’t help it….don’t they get it! While the real culprit is swanning around the globe making millions being a ‘peace envoy’ ironically! ?????

            • Ed

              What….you got to be kidding? I’m sorry to hear that Burt but I bet out of all people he had one of the best dads for support, at least from what I gather from you so far, and this is coming from someone who talked to his own dad two times in the last twenty-five years. Yes…I would assume as you do that your a marked man at this point but with your well seasoned life experiences and hardships anything you face in the future is walk in the park. Not sure how you do it but it’s inspiring to say the least. WOW!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Ed, you should not accredit me with any inpirational kudos, though I feel your love for the brothers and encouragement and appreciate it! And I hardly think I figure in any governmental survelience. All in all, I’m just the same as everyone else here, and I don’t consider my life experience as anything noteworthy. Far from it. We are but dust on the scales and which grain of dust carries more weight than the other? Hopefully, we will all get there, but it will not be of our own doing!

            • Ed

              Copy that Burt! One thing we have all in common is, if someone says tomato our first thought isn’t tomotto it’s “screw you” . I guess that’s how we all wound up here in the first place. Peace brother!

            • Daisy

              Hello Ed, don’t mind me calling you that, I hope, cos who the hell is the other Ed anyway… Think you are the only one at the moment, but maybe the other Ed before you has long gone perhaps…
              I know the other Ed… Mr Snowdon has announced that “For the first time in history it’s possible for governments to track the complete activities of our life” so I hope that doesn’t deter you from continuing commenting here, in the way that you prefer, and as you do 😀

            • Ed

              I could probably go back to just being Ed since the other one ran off to join the flatearth movement if I remember correctly, and it’s not the government that worries me it’s shady people I know from my past that want to be facebook friends and I’m not even on it. How they found me I’ll never know but I will drop the privacy button that way you won’t miss my wonderful comments, smile, and I know I come across a little insensitive at times, which I’m working on, and don’t have much to contribute. I should probably go back to doing what I used to do which is shut up and read maybe ask a question once in a while. That way I don’t breach the homey code! Wink!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Interesting analagy and more poignant than you might imagine. Where the lettering of the ships name have dropped off due to rust, an ‘o’ can be seen below it. The orginal ships Olympic and titanic, had their names carved into the metal. Other evidence of the damage done to Olympic in a collision with a navy ship is evident on the wreck of the titanic. The damage done to Olympic twisted her keel, making the whole ship uninsurable and unusable. The sister ships had their names switched and the Olympic was sunk in the greatest insurance scam of all time, only superseded in value by the twin towers nearly a hundred years later. Thus, the analagy you use points to the watchtower being not what it seems to be! (See conspiracy theory on you tube…is the titanic actually the Olympic. Interesting and convincing, but can you even believe your own mother these days?!)

            • Richard Long

              Totally Outrageous and therefore all the more believable. These elites pride themselves on and constantly compete to see who can get away with the most elaborate illusion.

        • I remember an elder giving a talk once on the platform at a meeting, and he mentioned the WT’s previous UN membership. He didn’t deny that the WT was a member of the UN, but he said it was purely to gain access to the UN library, whatever that was. I am sure there was an article on the JW.org site explaining why they were once affiliated with the UN, but I can’t seem to find it.

          • There was never anything published admitting to the NGO affair on the Watchtower’s website or in any literature. The WT merely released a public relations statement to the media saying opposers made allegations that the WT had secret links to the UN, which, of course, was true. They were secretly associated with the UN and published reams of information about the UN, which they were obligated to do. The press release claimed that it was necessary to register as an NGO to have access to the UN library, which, of course, was a lie.

          • Vicky

            I have written the link on here as a picture, please check it, it gives you all the truth about this

          • Richard Long

            Not just spin, but vanishing spin at that?

        • Beverly kenyon

          Oh, Vicky luv, Elvis isn’t still alive and gigging at Las Vegas and the Abyss isn’t a rehab centre for Satan and his mates ( are you listening Lord’s Witnesses, insane ). Their dirty secret and spiritual adultery was breaking news written by a respected broadsheet newspaper The Guardian in October 2001 by Stephen Bates a Religious Affairs correspondent and on page 109 in, Jehovah Himself has Become King, under the heading, Strange Bedfellows, Brother King writes more about that affair! Also, because of an avalanche of inquires from Witnesses when that scandal broke in the news, the Un came up with an official reply confirming their friendship with the WT and to download that letter go to ask.un.org/faq/14501 and click on the link. Two days ago you accused Brother King of being a false prophet and causing divisions and and when confronted by myself and Song of Hannah you went silent, so once again I’ll ask you, What are you on about? And if you feel that way why are you here on a ‘false prophet’s’ site? Oh, I get it! You think you’re doing Jehovah a service by trying to ‘expose’ a ‘false prophet’ and in turn ‘saving’ ones here on this forum, well Jehovah doesn’t need a puny human and a speck of dust to ‘fight’ off him and you would do well to read that account of, Uzzah, the levite. 2Sa 6:3-8, 1Ch13:7-11.

          • Beverly kenyon

            Also, in reply to their being economical with the truth about gaining access to the UN’s Library, well anyone can walk off the street and have access to their Library, don’t know what the procedure is and a person might have to make an appointment but anyone can use their library and also why use the ‘Beast’s’ Library when in their own Bethel, haven’t they got an extensive library of their own and a person can access information on the Internet. Also I vaguely remember another lame excuse on their part was something about being able to offer help to witnesses in other countries as an NGO. Seriously, and here’s me thinking we have the power and might of Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ to help us in our need!

            • Actually, as of 2001, following the 9-11 attack, access to the library has been restricted to affiliated NGOs. However, during the time the Watchtower was an associate NGO (1992-2001) any qualified researcher was allowed to use it. I actually phoned the head librarian back in 2002 and talked to her. She verified that it was not restricted to NGOs until about the time the WT was outed.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Thank you Brother King, for that confirmation in what I was trying to tell ‘our Vicky’. Jehovah hasn’t forgot their lies and betrayal and it will haunt them until Jesus Christ comes for an accounting.

            • Beverley, excuse me for asking this as you’ve probably said this before, but were you once a Jehovah’s Witness? (As in a member of the WTBS type Jehovah’s Witness).

            • Beverly kenyon

              Of course I am! And proud to be a witness for Jehovah God…always will be and hopefully to the bitter end now I know real truth! I’m now the Witness that I should’ve been right from the beginning had I known the Real truth of God’s Word. I love my God and his Son and I do not put my trust in man to whom no salvation belongs!

            • Sorry, I probably didn’t make my question clear enough: were you a member of the WTBS? Are you still one? Were you disfellowshipped? Thank you.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Don’t be sorry…ask away! No, I’ve not being disfellowshipped but would most probably be now because of my true beliefs now which if I was questioned in one of their kangaroo courts I would not deny, bend or kowtow to their man made rules. I’m responsible for my life and ultimately I stand before Jehovah and His Son. They know me and they know the true inclinations of my heart even though I’ve offended them repeatedly and my sinful ways haunt me but nevertheless I’m just going to keep trying to live a Christian life by Jehovah’s laws.

          • Vicky

            Thank you for your comment, your response I feel speaks oceans to all who read it and shows where the true followers of God’s Words lie.

            • Jamie Mac

              Hi Vicky, have you ever wondered why the WT didn’t announce their NGO status to all at the time?

              Beverly, does have a valid point about you visiting E Watchman if you think Robert is a liar.

            • Beverly kenyon

              I’m happy for you Vicky luv! Mmmm…..the smell of fresh coffee….can you smell it Vicky?

            • Burt Reynolds

              Actually tactically the principle spoken by Beverly is supported by scripture. I can understand where you are speaking from Vicky but only because I am a JW myself. To repay the insight in equal terms and to get an understanding of what is written here, you must first empathise with the facts, both in papers
              ( but you are correct to use discernment), and from the bible,ma gains your own insight. No one here seeks to deceive, but were deceived at one time. It is very, very difficult for some of us to see through that. It took me years and now I have ever more faith in Jehovah and we wholeheartedly advise brothers and sisters to stay in the congregation.

  • 05 April 2017, 13:34

    Russian Supreme Court rejects Jehovah Witnesses’ counterclaim seeking their recognition as victims of political repression

    Moscow, April 5, Interfax – The Russian Supreme Court, having heard the parties’ arguments, decided not to accept the counterclaim filed by Russia’s Jehovah Witnesses seeking recognition of their organization as a victim of political repression.

    “Decline to accept the claim. Court jurisdiction roles do not envisage the acceptance of a counterclaim. At the same time, we will exercise judicial control over the legality of the work of the Justice Ministry on the basis of the claimant’s written objections,” the judge said. A representative of the organization earlier said in court: “We are asking to hear our counterclaim seeking the recognition of the Russian religious organization Jehovah Witnesses as a victim of political repression and recognize the political persecution and the actions taken by the Justice Ministry on us as illegal.”

    He had asked for the organization’s claim to be heard together with the Justice Ministry’s claim.

    The Russian Supreme Court on Wednesday is considering the issue of recognizing Russia’s Jehovah Witnesses as an extremist organization and banning its activities on the territory of Russia under an administrative lawsuit filed by the Russian Justice Ministry.

    The religious organization filed the claim on March 15, when the work of the Jehovah Witnesses was suspended for extremist activities on the orders of the Justice Ministry until the hearing of the lawsuit in the Supreme Court.

    http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=13686

    • That was inevitable.

      • Russia’s Supreme Court upholds ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses

        MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s Supreme Court has upheld the decision of a Russian city to ban Jehovah’s Witnesses as an extremist group.

        The decision Thursday came amid proceedings on a Justice Ministry suit to ban the religious organization in Russia altogether.

        Prior to the ruling, David A. Semonian, a spokesman at its world headquarters in New York, said the group hopes “Russia’s Supreme Court will uphold the rights of our fellow believers in Russia to freely carry out their peaceful worship.”

        • It was a foregone conclusion really. What a backward country Russia is.

          • Burt Reynolds

            They are not backward my friend, they are just revealing who they are and always were. The thinking is common in all countries and is/will be in Britain and America….world wide before long. Russia is and will be, removing all ‘opposition’ as will all other countries as the march to complete dominance is pushed forward and the battle for such gets set. Non-state Religion is, and probably always has been, only tolerated, the more so as morals were relaxed in a fake show of inclusion to get people alongside the state…even inclusion of homosexuals into the state church dignitaries to contaminate and subjugate the church under the state. The love and honesty principles seen to be predominant in the witnesses are not the qualities sought. Obedience to the state is. It’s starting here in Britain. The tax free status of the witnesses is being investigated, as are the issues of child abuse and the watchtower is losing ground in its role of independence from the state. Russia is not backward in this, it’s moving forward to the end. Bad for the brothers, but discrimination is world wide and has never been lifted, only concealed.

  • seeing the way things are going and knowing the truth better of the way things will go, i feel it best to just pray that while Jehovah has things play-out according to what he’s planning to do, we pray that he please do his best to take care of his sheep through his process of concluding the
    functionality of the Watchtower as a tool
    used for his purpose. imho

  • Russia’s Supreme Court upholds ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses

    MOSCOW (AP) — Russia’s Supreme Court has upheld the decision of a Russian city to ban Jehovah’s Witnesses as an extremist group.

    The decision Thursday came amid proceedings on a Justice Ministry suit to ban the religious organization in Russia altogether.

    Prior to the ruling, David A. Semonian, a spokesman at its world headquarters in New York, said the group hopes “Russia’s Supreme Court will uphold the rights of our fellow believers in Russia to freely carry out their peaceful worship”.

  • La Corte Suprema de Rusia ratifica la prohibición de los Testigos de Jehová

    MOSCU (AP) – La Corte Suprema de Rusia confirmó la decisión de una ciudad rusa de prohibir los Testigos de Jehová como un grupo extremista.

    La decisión del jueves se produjo en medio de un proceso judicial en el que se prohíbe la organización religiosa en Rusia.

    Antes de la decisión, David A. Semonian, vocero de la sede mundial en New York, dijo que el grupo espera “que la Corte Suprema de Rusia mantenga los derechos de nuestros compañeros creyentes en Rusia a llevar libremente a cabo su culto pacífico”.

  • Pietro Arrigoni

    It’s an intelligent question “why not trust in Jesus”, but you actually didn’t focus why the letters… You need to study the bible. If the letters themselves had power JW could have written zilions starting from in example october 2016. Letters have been written not for saving JW, but to warn politics in the topic moment, in the proximity of the russian suprem court judgment. Everytime God carried out a sentence in the human history He always warned several times, but at the end the judgment has come (deluge-Noah, judah-Isaiah, Babylon-Isaiah, Gerusalem and Judaism-Jesus, end of the nations’ times-JW. I shouldn’t like yo be in the politics shoes.

  • Vicky

    Check out the below website for the truth about these lies regarding JW and the UN https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/472da50e28b71e6d0ff6a3a0d12026241d6889827a8ab3dfaabc197236d818fd.png

  • Jamie Mac

    Oh my, it’s never boring here 🙂

  • Srecko Sostar

    Hi!
    Many decades before, in Brazil, WT arranged with government to be registered as “cultural society, group”, in meetings and public. No Bible, no prayers, no singing and so on as i recall correctly. Only because to not losing material possessions.

    In Egypt they are also under ban for decades, and as to some informations i recently have found WTJWorg giving request (do not know when) to be registered as “christian denomination”. Denomination??? In front of their members GB would never said something like that publicly. But “in secret” meetings with people from secular authority they, GB and their lawyers, have open hands to push away all moral and religious feelings and ethic for purpose that is strange to average JW member…. and is opposite to moral lessons they giving to flock!!

    No matter does people here are active or passive or fading or in doubt with some of JWorg teachings and not with others, or making some modifications and new understandings or putting own trust in someone else …. be careful and aware. History always repeating herself.

    :)))) just friendly and uninspired opinion

  • Tiago Neves

    The pupil prophecy!

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