Jehovah’s City of Truth

//Jehovah’s City of Truth

Wednesday, January 25

We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.Zech. 8:23.

Speaking of the time in which we are living, Jehovah foretold: “In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’” Like the figurative ten men, those who have an earthly hope have taken “firm hold of the robe of a Jew.” They are proud to associate with the spirit-anointed “Israel of God,” knowing that Jehovah is blessing his anointed ones. As did the prophet Zechariah, Jesus highlighted the refreshing unity that is experienced by God’s people. He spoke of his followers as two groups, a “little flock” and “other sheep,” but he said that they would be “one flock” with “one shepherd.”

COMMENTARY

As a general rule everything the Watchtower teaches as a modern fulfillment of prophecy is wrong. That is certainly the case with the prophecy regarding the ten men who take a hold of the robe of the Jew.

The fallacy ought to be apparent by this simple fact: Even according to the Watchtower’s latest revision (2013) the faithful slave and the evil slave have not been distinguished yet. Neither have the wise and foolish virgins parted ways, not has the master called to account his slaves in whom he entrusted his money. That being true, how would it be possible for the symbolic ten men of the nations to discern which “Jew” was the true man of God? To put it another way, would it turn out well if anyone one seeking God would take hold of the robe of the evil slave? Where might that lead?

Interestingly, in Revelation Jesus spoke of those within his congregations who said they were Jews, but were lying and were actually a synagogue of Satan. Jesus was not speaking of someone pretending to be a literal Jew, but rather those who would falsely claim to be anointed. 

It is paradoxical, that the organization that champions the truth is also the purveyor of a massive falsehood. The falsehood being —not merely the insidious, invisible parousia hoax —but the delusion that the Watchtower is God’s visible organization and that it will guide all of the flock to the waters of life.

No doubt Satan recognized early-on that the original Bible Students were being used by Christ to expose the fake Christianity of the churches. Naturally, if allowed the wicked one would take measures to infiltrate, to oppose or pervert the truth in some fashion.

And it seems that Satan has been wildly successful in subtly presenting the Watchtower as the fortress of salvation, at least in the minds of Jehovah’s Witnesses. In ever so many ways the Watchtower has been elevated to occupy the place of the very Kingdom of God; again, at least in the minds of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

As with today’s text, salvation is presented as the reward of those who simply follow the program laid out by the Governing Body. And since the Watchtower controls what Jehovah’s Witnesses are allowed to think —at least as far as how the Scriptures are understood —there is no reason for the faithful to think otherwise. And for now it is not really an issue.

But the Devil most assuredly knows the truth. He knows the Kingdom has not begun ruling yet. He most certainly knows that he has not been cast down from Heaven. He knows that the Watchtower is not the place of refuge.

The prophecy of Zechariah came about after the Jews were liberated from Babylon and returned to Jerusalem. And the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses well know that the prophecies have a dual application to the establishment of the Kingdom and the restoration of all things. Prior to their exile Jerusalem had been where Jehovah placed his name. It was his city. However, he abandoned it in his anger and inflicted a severe punishment upon the Jews for their wicked ways.

The Watchtower now teaches that Christians went into captivity to modern Babylon beginning back in the fourth century and that God brought about a release in 1919. Since then the Watchtower Society has served as the rebuilt Jerusalem. Fred Franz wrote an entire book covering Zechariah and Haggai back in 1972 entitled Paradise Restored to Mankind by Theocracy, which, as one might guess, presented the Watchtower organization as the embodiment of the restoration of theocracy.

But the eighth chapter of Zechariah does not support the Watchtower’s interpretation. For example, in verse 14 Jehovah makes clear that he brought calamity upon Jerusalem because he had become indignant with them. How does that square with Christianity slowly being corrupted and co-opted by Rome? It doesn’t.

The fact is, there is nothing in the history of Christianity that can compare with the overthrow of Jerusalem and their exile in Babylon. That is because the modern overthrow of that which is represented by Jerusalem has not occurred yet.

Without dispute the desolation of an antitypical “Jerusalem” is the central feature of Jesus’ prophecy concerning the conclusion of the system of things. And it is in the aftermath of the desolation of “Jerusalem” during the time of the end that Jesus said he would dispatch his angels and they would gather the chosen ones from the four winds. Even the Watchtower recognizes this gathering as a future event. That being true, now consider a very important detail in the 8th chapter of Zechariah; namely, verse seven, which says: “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘Here I am saving my people from the lands of the east and the west. And I will bring them in, and they will reside in Jerusalem; and they will become my people, and I will become their God in truth and in righteousness.’”

The expression “I will become their God” does not mean that Jehovah was not the God of the Jews before he regathered them. It is a very common expression in the prophets and it signifies the end of the matter —it means that God has straightened everything out, settling the issues he had with his people before —resulting in his full blessing upon his people. The same expression is used in the oft-cited passage in Revelation, where it is said of the earthly survivors of the end of the world: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them.”

But the point is, the man who is a Jew only becomes such after God regathers his scattered people from the east and west —or from the four winds if you prefer.

The truth is, the prophetic man who is a Jew represents the entire body of chosen ones after they have been gathered, that is to say sealed, after the evil slave has been thrown out to weep and gnash his teeth in the outer darkness —when the chosen shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Then they will lead Jehovah’s sheep to pasturage and Jerusalem really will become the city of truth, even as Zechariah 8:3 states: “This is what Jehovah says, ‘I will return to Zion and reside in Jerusalem; and Jerusalem will be called the city of truth, and the mountain of Jehovah of armies, the holy mountain.’”

Needless to say, the Watchtower is no city of truth.  The city of truth is New Jerusalem that is coming. 

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2017-06-25T20:10:29+00:00 January 25th, 2017|Commentary|62 Comments
  • bobby6343

    This article came in time! I was having a discussion with my family about the most recent article from this past Sunday (1/22). Robert, your new article has helped us to clarify this. Thank you.

  • L.H.

    The evil slave is very sly to connect himself with the truth. At least the pope is declaring openly him being the substitute of Christ. Only the ones with their eyes open recognize this.

    Brother King, I prefer your comment after comment, rather than their “command…after command…..” !

  • Song of Hannah

    Thanks Bro Robert for commenting on the WTs “new light” & exposing it to the real light of truth! Very much appreciated.

  • Nigel

    Really appreciate the clarity in your arguments, Brother King. Biblical truths usually seem so obvious once they have been properly explained & spiritually discerned. Praise Jah.

  • Burt Reynolds

    So the watchtower champions the truth, but also pedals the massive, dual lies, that it represents Jehovah’s visible organisation on earth, and that an invisible parousia of Christ has taken place. And yet they are fully aware that the prophecies have a dual application. Thus they know they lie. Can one therefore really say that they champion the truth? Only if they are unwitting in their teachings; their championing of truth. The only brush with honest motivation that I can see, was with Russell, but I’m open to criticism on that no doubt. After he died, it seems the truth, or search for it, was up for grabs. Not that I am comparing the two, but I do not recall reading a scripture relating that after Christ died, one of the apostles said ‘right! I’m in charge now’ as did Rutherford in regard to Russell. It seems to be that brothers are held in the ‘truth’ by a lie, and those that join are drawn in by a lie, and also are held by a lie. And so what is the motivation to make converts now and from whom does this motivatin come? Yes, the basics are there as discussed in earlier topics, but I wonder why people are drawn to a lie and confusion that may jeopardise their future, when truth and sustinence spiritual, is available here?

    • L.H.

      “Who really is the faithfull slave…when this evil slave….” We are tested for our love of the truth, and we do need discernment. But to seperate lies from truth can be very hard!..sigh…

    • 1914for100Alex

      I think a big part of it is that in order to fully understand everything, you have to be exposed to the lie. I can’t imagine that there are a lot of people that can just jump in to what Robert has written and recognize it for what it is. You need to experience the lie first hand to really appreciate what’s going on.

      As far as people being drawn to a lie…I think there’s more to it than that. You have to take into consideration that the lie is part of the full package, which includes a lot of truth. More than you’re going to find in any other religion. Robert’s site is step two. Once you understand the basics, that love of truth is going to make you realize something’s not right. Those brave enough to search for that truth will find it.

      • L.H.

        My husband say: we have got brains not to be brainwashed.
        And I think that multiple times in the process of brainwashing we have the chance to recognize it and compare the teachings to what we know already from the basic truth, as well to the personality of Jehovah who showed who he is through Jesus when he was on earth.

      • Joel

        Agree totally!

      • Burt Reynolds

        Yes it makes sense that you have to be in it to see it. I was thinking though of the watchtower knowing these things and still ‘selling’ it as the truth, knowing the lie undermines it.

        • 1914for100Alex

          In that case, I think they probably fear the same thing that some leaders of Christendom probably fear; that any major change in doctrine could lead to a mass exodus. Maybe they justify it to themselves that they’re actually still saving people by keeping them in the organization instead of risking having them leave it for another religion or atheism. I have to believe that, at this point, money is also a factor.

    • Jamie Mac

      Hi Burt

      Perhaps they are drawn to the lie because they have accepted the WT stance on over-lapping generations. However, I suspect many have refused to be taken in by that and have decided to remain tight lipped.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        For most brothers and sisters the glue that holds them together is the watchtower whether they are learning half truths or not.

        Over the course of time the brothers and sisters started giving more reverence to what the governing body said rather than what Jehovah’s bible actually commands us to do, in fact the watchtower has promoted their own literature (own opinion) above Jehovah’ word thus making their form of warship adulteress and the evidence is clear for instance…

        We must recognize the watchtower as GOD’s spirit directed organization in order to get baptized???

        Meanwhile the scriptures clearly says we should get baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit. Matthew28:19.

        No were does it mention in the entire bible we should get dedicated to the watchtower or any manmade organization but that’s what the watchtower promotes not to mention they do enforce their policies with the threat of excommunicating brothers and sisters which would be a complete disaster for the person in question seeing that they would lose everything they hoped for as well as their personal family members.

        • Jamie Mac

          Great insight and I agree. I wonder though, how many in the truth really accepted the over-lapping generations explanation.

        • Andres Felipe

          Que ciegos estábamos todos nosotros : bautizanos en el nombre de la watchtower. ….terrible !!!?

          • Cocheta

            I don’t think that needs any translation, everyone will understand you there, Andres 😉

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I’m so rusty on my Spanish it’s unforgivable,lo and I live in New York where most people speak Spanish as a second language.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Translation – How blind are all of us baptized in the name of the watchtower. ….terrible

            • Joel

              You are so right BK. When I got baptized, I remember distinctly the two 2 questions we as baptismal candidates was asked:

              The first . . .
              “On the basis of Jesus’ sacrifice, do you recognize that you are a sinner, and have you repented of your sins?

              The second . . .
              Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s Spirit-directed Organization?

              Holy cow! The first question is not too bad, and had scriptural support. But that 2nd question . . . oh my goodness! Looking back, how could anyone in their right mind not know the implications of what answering in the affirmative to that implies!!? In truth, you are ‘pledging alligence,’ selling your soul—lock, stock, and barrel—to a MAN-MADE religious Organization! Once you say ” YES” they got’cha!!! From a “legal” point of view, You’re hooked!!!

              The average person who gets passed the 70 questions (that’s a whole discussion in itself for another time) and “qualifies” for baptism, they have no idea, none, what they are getting themselves into.

              JW baptism is not biblically correct. It is an aberration; a deviation from the scriptural norm laid out by Jesus himself at Matthew 28:19, 20:

              “Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.”

              Interestingly, within that baptismal formula from the Lord himself, we find NO MENTION of any “Spirit-directed Organization”!!! We also find that Christ said to teach ALL people who want to be baptized, he said to teach them to observe only what HE —Jesus Christ—commands! Not any man-made religion, no matter how sincere.

              When those of us look back on our baptism through the Watchtower Society, we may find that we have all been duped; bamboozled by an arrogant ‘man of LAWLESSNESS’ that is themselves duped by Satan. Because of this, one may consider rebaptism in the biblically outlined formula as the appropriate solution. It is an individual personal matter, but something to consider.

            • Southern ShaSha

              I never recalled any question regarding the “addition of or to Gods spirit directed organization. Went to JW.org and low and behold, it was added in (1985). We realize now that was a wrong move by the society to make that addition a requirement in order to become baptized. but we have all held to many wrong beliefs and teachings, just our being a part of the organization. We learn new lies regularly regarding the false teachings, but does that change our dedication and baptism? Is that dedication of baptism of less value after coming to the real truth about the truth. Being able to recognize these truths should only strengthen our commitment and dedication. I was baptized prior to this addition, makes no difference!

            • Joel

              By the way, SSS, I never use or endorsed the word “dedication.” Why not? Because in truth, nowhere in the entirety of the Christian Greek Scriptures (or the New Testament) are followers of Jesus commanded to “dedicate their lives” to him or his Father Jehovah. Nowhere.

              The Watchtower Society has erroneously reached back to the Hebrew Scriptures (or the Old Testament) and borrowed a phrase to indicate the Nation of Israel’s relationship with Jehovah; there they are called or viewed as a “dedicated nation” (see Ex. 19:5, 6; 2 Chron. 7:11-22).

              Even as ancient Israel was accepted by Jehovah as ONE complete Nation, later in Jesus day, when the Mosaic law was fulfilled in Christ, Jehovah no longer accepted people as a “group.” The person who wanted to worship him and have their sins forgiven must now come INDIVIDUALLY through or by the shed blood of Jesus, as the perfect sacrificial Lamb for forgiveness of sins. “Dedication” to God was no longer in vogue. What mattered was putting ones faith—individually and personally—in Jesus Christ; the ONLY way to now get to God the Father.

              So SSS, since the sacrifice of Jesus (foreshadowed by John the Baptist first), full submerged water baptism is the only way to have an approved relationship with God. Dedicating ones life to him is fine, but it has no merit in sin redemption. Only water baptism (gonna down under water a sinner . . . coming up out of water a “new regenerated and washed” person).

            • Southern ShaSha

              Thank you Joel, I do understand that for sure. Must choose my expression in words more closely, but you got my meaning I’m sure.

            • Joel

              Of course I did! Lol!!! Point well taken, and well made Sis!

            • Southern ShaSha

              Joel, I do thank you for pointing out the misuse of the word dedication! Realizing it’s application to baptism as incorrect. Dedication is merely what one does on their own toward JEHOVAH. Baptism on the other hand is the provision given us by JEHOVAH, recognizing the ransome sacrifice in our behalf as the only hope for salvation through Christ Jesus. Of course in the (70’s) when I was baptized the word dedication was used, although I never thought of it that way until you calling attention to it!

            • Joel

              Ah! Very good Sis! A new truth you recognized as true! Good work. Never forget it.

            • Searcher

              Dear brother Joel, you may of read this article, if not it comes highly recommend.

              http://perimeno.ca/Dedication.htm

            • Joel

              Excellent article indeed! I have made some adjustments to my aforementioned post.

              Thanks Searcher!

            • Anderiega

              Thank goodness Jehovah reads our hearts….So even though most (if not almost all) of us got baptized post 1985, Jehovah knows WHY we represented our dedication with the baptism.

            • Joel

              That’s an interesting way of stating it Anderiega, “representing our dedication with baptism.” Ummm . . . okay!

            • Marisa Gomez

              Lo lamento si comprendi mal su post, pero me parece que usted habla como un apostata,,,porque de todas formas con sus errores es la organizacion de Jehova y por lo tanto al bautizarnos en el nombre del Padre ….nos estamos asociando con los testigos,,,,,quiero decir,,,no hay otra organizacion que enseñe al menos las verdades elementales de la biblia y la forma correcta de adorar a nuestro Gran Dios Jehova.

            • Marisa Gomez

              Y entonces Cómo dónde podemos ser bautizados ya que las demas organizaciones ni siquiera enseñan las verdades elementales de la biblia. Jesus ordeno a sus discipulos para hacer mas discipulos, y bautizarlos.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              My dear friend I wish I spoke fluent Spanish but I don’t and I tried to translate your message and it does work for the most part but also fails to give me the complete message. So I’m afraid I’m in the dark in respect to comprehending your message.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Translation…
              And then How can we be baptized since other organizations do not even teach the elementary truths of the bible. Jesus commanded his disciples to make more disciples, and to baptize them.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Thanks for your help Joseph. Maybe I need a new translator or perhaps I’m just not fully aware of how to use it. Anyway I found three pod cast that will help answers that friends question but there in English , I will just post them and pray for the best.

            • Marisa Gomez

              Much.as gracias por su esfuerzo y consideracion, tambien al hermano Joseph, Jehova los bendiga mucho. Usted me puede enviar, yo entiendo mucho ingles escrito.. la mayor parte. Gracias de nuevo

            • Marisa Gomez

              Mil gracias hermano por su tiempo, esfuerzo y cosideracion hacia mi. Gracias por traducir mi comentario, Jehova lo proteja.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Ustedes son muy bienvenidos mi querida y dulce hermana de América Central, que Jehová continúe bendiciéndolos y protegiéndolos.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Please take note that Jesus did not let a technicality stop him self from getting baptized.
              Matthew 3:
              13 Then Jesus came from Galʹi·lee to the Jordan to John, in order to be baptized by him.
              14 But then latter tried to prevent him, saying: “I am the one who needs to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?”
              15 Jesus replied to him: “Let it be this time, for in that way it is suitable for us to carry out all that is righteous.” Then he quit preventing him.
              Now If Jesus did not allow a technicality to prevent his baptism how much more should we follow his example.

              Listen to>
              Podcast #9

              https://e-watchman.com/podcast-9/
              This program addresses the concerns of an individual who is studying with Jehovah’s Witnesses trying to come to terms with the dilemma of being baptized but not accepting the 1914 doctrine. Also, a consideration of old Mailbag questions from 2004. Click here for Mailbag archive

              Podcast #14
              https://e-watchman.com/podcast-14/
              This program considers caller’s questions regarding how to go forward in the knowledge of the Watchtower Society’s errors. Also, email questions concerning various aspects of chronology.

              Podcast #1
              https://e-watchman.com/podcast-1/
              This is the first of a renewed commitment to my regularly producing podcasts in order to answer questions from you, the listener. This episode considers questions regarding whether Jehovah’s Witnesses ought not to leave the Watchtower organization in view of its error and corruption. And is the Watchtower Babylon the Great?

            • Joseph Stephan

              Translation
              Bklyn Kevin Marisa Gomez hace 2 horas Por favor tome nota que Jesús no dejó que un tecnicismo le impidiera ser bautizado. Mateo 3: 13 Entonces Jesús vino de Galilea al Jordán, a Juan, para ser bautizado por él. 14 Pero luego éste trató de impedirlo, diciendo: “Yo soy el que necesita ser bautizado por vosotros, ¿y vienes a mí?” 15 Jesús le respondió: “Dejad que sea esta vez, porque de esta manera nos conviene llevar a cabo todo lo que es justo.” Entonces él dejó de prevenirlo. Ahora bien, si Jesús no permitió que un tecnicismo impidiera su bautismo cuánto más debemos seguir su ejemplo. Escuchar> Podcast # 9 Https: //e-watchman.com/podcast … Este programa aborda las preocupaciones de un individuo que está estudiando con los Testigos de Jehová tratando de aceptar el dilema de ser bautizado pero no aceptar la doctrina de 1914. También, una consideración de viejas preguntas de Mailbag de 2004. Haga clic aquí para el archivo de Mailbag Podcast # 14 Https: //e-watchman.com/podcast … Este programa considera las preguntas de la persona que llama sobre cómo avanzar en el conocimiento de los errores de la Sociedad Watchtower. También, envíe por correo electrónico preguntas referentes a varios aspectos de la cronología. Podcast # 1 Https: //e-watchman.com/podcast … Este es el primero de un compromiso renovado con mi producción regular de podcasts con el fin de responder a las preguntas de usted, el oyente. Este episodio considera preguntas sobre si los Testigos de Jehová no deben abandonar la organización Watchtower en vista de su error y corrupción. ¿Y es la Torre de Vigía de Babilonia la Grande?

            • Bklyn Kevin

              “POW” Joseph you’re the man thank you.

            • Joseph Stephan

              Happy to help!

            • Marisa Gomez

              Lo que digo es que no hay otra organización donde uno pueda ser bautizado ya que ninguna otra enseña las verdades bíblicas y puesto que es un mandato de Jesus entonces debemos bautizarnos como testigos de Jehova

            • Joseph Stephan
      • Andres Felipe

        Hola amigo .me haces acordar : una de las primeras enseñanzas que me hicieron pensar que algo estaba mal en la organización fue la de la generación traslapada. …Para mi era increíble que la watchtower enseñara semejante cosa ( me rascaba la cabeza ).dude tanto que no quería saber nada de la organización, hasta que me encontré con warchman. …y con usedes. …Los amo a todos

        • Cocheta

          Translation;
          Hello friend. You make me agree: one of the first teachings that made me think that something was wrong in the organization was that of the overlapping generation. … For me it was incredible that the watchtower showed such a thing (I scratched my head).
          I stumbled so much that I did not want to know anything about the organization, until I ran into Watchman. … and with all you. …I love you all

          Sorry, that should have been to Jamie Mac, I’ll repost it to him now

      • Cocheta

        Translation from Andres;
        Hello friend. You make me agree: one of the first teachings that made me think that something was wrong in the organization was that of the overlapping generation. … For me it was incredible that the watchtower showed such a thing (I scratched my head).
        I stumbled so much that I did not want to know anything about the organization, until I ran into Watchman. … and with all you. …I love you all

      • Anderiega

        That’s what did it for me too….”the overlapping generation.” ?

    • Joel

      Hi Burt.
      The reason people are drawn to the teachings of the Watchtower Society is because their “initial” teachings like the truth about hellfire . . . man not having an immortal soul . . . God not being a triune being . . . and God being distinguished by his unique and holy name JEHOVAH, these teachings are so refreshing and liberating from the false teachings of Christendom, that people become enamored with the Organization and then believe that EVERYTHING from that point forward they say is “the truth.”

      How wrong they are.

      • Andres Felipe

        Tienes razón Joel. Todos hemos pasado por ese proceso. Creemos todo lo que nos dice la organización porque las enseñanzas básicas son muy poderosas.ninguno se atrevió a descartar una enseñanza aunque tuviera dudas .por ejemplo: la profecía de los 7 tiempos. Quizá preguntamos porqué aplicar una regla tan antigua a una profecía pero lo aceptamos porque sencillamente ya amábamos lo que escuchábamos

        • Cocheta

          Estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo, Andrés. Muchas cosas me doy cuenta ahora que debía haber dudadopero porque amaba la idea de la verdad nunca la cuestioné

          I agree totally, Andres, I always implicitly believed the GB because they taught me the truth & I really thought they were speaking Jehovahs words so of course I never questioned it

      • Cocheta

        welcome back again Joel, I was thinking of you today. Here is what Andres said to you in his reply;

        “You’re right, Joel. We have all gone through that process. We believe everything the organization tells us because the basic teachings are very powerful. None dared to rule out a teaching even if they had doubts, for example: the prophecy of the 7 times. Perhaps we asked why to apply such an old rule to a prophecy but we accepted it because we simply loved what we heard

        • Joel

          Thank you Cocheta for that linguistic translating. Both you and Andres are so right: “None dared to rule out a teaching even if they had doubts.” Very well said! Excellent reasoning! Yes, we fell in love with a charmer; a religion that propted itself up as “true” in ALL THINGS because it was correct in a few—the initial basic truths of Christianity. Wow!

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        How wrong they are. Yes they are wrong because of Isaiah:42:19

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Just my opinion.

      Most brothers and sisters truly believe it’s a theocracy, although that may have been true in times past to some degree or another the very fact that the watchtower / governing body has (instituted manmade) policies and adheres to them proves that they are a form of socialism and they are using the means of theocracy to promote their own agenda.

      noun: theocracy; plural noun: theocracies

      a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.

      the commonwealth of Israel from the time of Moses until the election of Saul as King.

      noun: Theocracy; noun: the Theocracy
       

      Simple Definition of socialism. : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the [watchtowers governing body ] / government rather than by individual people and companies.

      Jeremiah10: 23.
      I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him.It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.

    • black curtain

      Dear Burt, in response to your question, “why are people drawn to a lie”? I don’t think that people really are drawn to a lie. With all these things the answer is often far me simple. Check out 1Sam 8:4-8. It really gives you the big picture with out all the myriad of little details,
      (1 Samuel 8:4-5) 4 In time all the older men of Israel collected themselves together and came to Samuel at Ra′mah 5 and said to him: “Look! You yourself have grown old, but your own sons have not walked in your ways. Now do appoint for us a king to judge us like all the nations.”

      So we have a little of the idea why people accept the WT and by extension the GB, let’s read on

      for a minute,

      (1 Samuel 8:9) 9 And now listen to their voice. Only this, that you should solemnly warn them, and you must tell them the rightful due of the king who will reign over them.”

      Every warning bell and flashing light should have gone off at those words (the poor dears didn’t have those things then, perhaps a trumpet blast at least).

      But Jehovah, just to make sure they understood what they doing, told them this,

      (1 Samuel 8:10-18) 10 So Samuel said all the words of Jehovah to the people who were asking a king of him. 11 And he proceeded to say: “This will become the rightful due of the king that will reign over YOU: YOUR sons he will take and put them as his in his chariots and among his horsemen, and some will have to run before his chariots; 12 and to appoint for himself chiefs over thousands and chiefs over fifties, and [some] to do his plowing and to reap his harvest and to make his war instruments and his chariot instruments. 13 And YOUR daughters he will take for ointment mixers and cooks and bakers. 14 And YOUR fields and YOUR vineyards and YOUR olive groves, the best ones, he will take and actually give to his servants. 15 And of YOUR fields of seed and of YOUR vineyards he will take the tenth, and he will certainly give [them] to his court officials and his servants. 16 And YOUR menservants and YOUR maidservants and YOUR best herds, and YOUR asses he will take, and he will have to use them for his work. 17 Of YOUR flocks he will take the tenth, and YOU yourselves will become his as servants. 18 And YOU will certainly cry out in that day by reason of YOUR king, whom YOU have chosen for yourselves, but Jehovah will not answer YOU in that day.. . .

      That in effect is a rotten if not tough one sided deal……..nearly. But was it a deterrent? Well this is what they said,

      (1 Samuel 8:19-20) 19 However, the people refused to listen to the voice of Samuel and said: “No, but a king is what will come to be over us. 20 And we must become, we also, like all the nations, and our king must judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.”

      Most Witnesses are decent enough people, but they have 2 fatal flaws like those Israelites. The first one is that they succumb to flattery. The line the WT gives is that they alone are God’s people and no else shall be saved when Armageddon comes, but only if you do what we say, because…. we will fight your battles. Elijah had a problem once about being the only one,

      (1 Kings 19:10) . . .To this he said: “I have been absolutely jealous for Jehovah the God of armies; for the sons of Israel have left your covenant, your altars they have torn down, and your prophets they have killed with the sword, so that I only am left; and they begin looking for my soul to take it away.. . .

      And, of course, was he the only one? I Kings goes on to say,

      (1 Kings 19:18) 18 And I have let seven thousand remain in Israel, all the knees that have not bent down to Ba′al, and every mouth that has not kissed him.. . .
      We have no idea whom Jehovah through Christ will preserve alive
      The second fatal flaw is,and this is the most devastating,that most Witnesses have handed their conscience over to the GB. “Please fight our battles” was the cry. Our conscience is the most precious thing we own. It stems from the heart, and from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Jehovah saves people on an individual basis. When Jesus comes to judge the sheep and the goats, he judges each as individuals not by group conscience, otherwise some of the paedophiles may sneak through.
      So the answer to the question is guard your conscience do not give it to another, nobody would really want to be judged by anothers conscience because the others conscience may allow them to lie. Even lying about 1914 and the invisible parousia, when as you say Burt they know it is untrue.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        Hello and welcome black curtain. Enjoyed reading your comment thank you.
        More food for thought.
        God was patiently waiting in Noah’s day, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water.

        Baptism, which corresponds to this, is also now saving you (not by the removing of the filth of the flesh, but by the request to God for a good conscience), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He is at God’s right hand, for he went to heaven, and angels and authorities and powers were made subject to him. 1 Peter3:21-22.

        • black curtain

          Good follow up comment B/Kev, I agree.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Thank you for that Black Curtain, that is both clear and true.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    Very nice it is as if giving a punch on the face of WTS.

  • Francis Bencharles

    The Watchtower is not new Jerusalem, they are more aptly new Ninevah. They are the “city” of Ninevah because they are a spiritual town who have been prophesied by Jonah to be destroyed lest they “repent”. The interesting thing is that they are about as apt to “repent” as the Ninevites were. From the perspective of their viewpoint of themselves, they have no reason to repent. But if they do not repent they will get the treatment as is meted out in Revelation 2.

    “‘Nevertheless, I do hold this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezʹe·bel, (GB)+ who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and misleads my slaves to commit sexual immorality*(with the U.N.)+ and to eat things sacrificed to idols.(free advertisements in the Watchtower and Awake distributed by unknowing dupes like myself) 21 And I gave her time to repent, but she is not willing to repent of her sexual immorality.* 22 Look! I am about to throw her into a sickbed, and those committing adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with deadly plague, so that all the congregations will know that I am the one who searches the innermost thoughts* and hearts, and I will give to you individually according to your deeds.+”

    They are also Jericho, as they are the first city destroyed by Joshua and his people. Peter tells us that the judgement starts with the people of God, therefore in a prophetic way, they are Jericho as well. Jericho’s wall is about to fall down.

    • Beverly kenyon

      The message to the Ninevites from Jehovah was short and simple, not elaborate, ‘Only forty days more and Nineveh will be overthrown’ and unbelievable they repented! So the WT can simply own up to their sins and treachery and ask forgiveness but that’s never gonna happen because the deluding influence has them in its vice like grip coupled with the fact they have a lot lose i.e money and power, and also owning up would lead to a lot of questions being asked. Owning up isn’t an option for them. But in the future, their walls like Jericho will come crashing down and everything will be naked and exposed,similar to the experiences of King Saul and Nebuchadnezzar. Jehovah will bring down the high and mighty!

  • Francis Bencharles

    Although there are many hard hearted people within the Watchtower who remain “deluded” there are also many who dearly love Jehovah God and his Son, and these ones will repent and come out when the wall of the Watchtower comes tumbling down. The harvest will be done by the angels, not by me and not by you. The word presence is literally translated “to stand beside”. This is illustrated for us in Acts 8 where Philip has a angel who “stood beside” him and gave him direction on how to act and what to do. During the presence of the Christ, those with faith and love will have an angel who will “stand beside” them and direct them out of the Watchtower and all the other religions of the earth where they find themselves. He is near at the doors, so keep your ear listening and don’t miss out on the harvest of the earth.

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