Jehovah Will Call to Account the Complacent Ones

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Wednesday, July 27

You guide me with your advice.Ps. 73:24.

Whenever we need guidance, we can “take notice of” Jehovah by consulting his Word to find out his view of matters and by seeking to apply Bible principles.  Sometimes, though, a trialsome situation lingers. You may have a grievous personality conflict with someone in the congregation. For instance, you may be hurt by a remark that you consider to be unkind. Yet, the brother who made the remark receives privileges in the congregation and seems to be well-thought-of by others. ‘How can this be?’ you wonder. ‘Does Jehovah not see? Will he not act?’  While you may feel that the other party bears most of the blame, God may view things differently. From his standpoint, you may be more at fault than you realize. The comment that you considered to be so hurtful may, in fact, have been well-deserved counsel that you ought to give thought to.

COMMENTARY

It may be, that, the one who is undergoing a lingering, trialsome situation is a child who has been seduced and sexually abused by someone who receives privileges in the congregation and seems well-thought-of by others.

The confusion this creates in the mind of the child is incomprehensible. They may be too afraid to even tell their parents. Sometimes the cunning pedophile further terrorizes the child by telling them that God will punish them if they do not keep the crimes committed against them secret.

But some children do come forward. They have been led to believe that the elders in their congregation will set matters right. How often the hope and expectations of those tender ones have been crushed when not only are they disbelieved by the elders, they are ordered to be silent, again, and not tell anyone in the congregation their unfounded allegations. Sometimes the parents have been ordered not to report the crime to police, since doing so might bring reproach on Jehovah. They are told to suffer in silence and wait on Jehovah.

Years may pass and the terror turns to rage, and rightfully so —especially when they realize that their’s is not a unique situation, that literally thousands of children of Jehovah’s Witnesses have been raped and abused and the Watchtower’s hush-hush policy is designed to protect the pedophile and persecute and punish their victims.

In fact, although the Watchtower’s spokesmen always repeat, verbatim, that Jehovah’s Witnesses ‘abhor child abuse,’ behind the closed doors of courtrooms Bethel’s lawyers are on record disavowing that elders have any fiduciary responsibility whatsoever to protect the children under their charge from the crimes of a congregant. Essentially, the Governing Body has denied Jehovah.

As adults some abuse victims have taken up legal action against the Watchtower and the local elders who are charged with carrying out the Legal Department’s policies. Sometimes the Watchtower settles lawsuits out of court. But when victims agree to a settlement they once again are ordered to be silent. This time the Watchtower imposes a legally binding gag order upon them to prevent them from speaking about the details of the crimes committed against them or the settlement they accepted.

Although Bethel has steadfastly denied that they have any responsibility in these matters, ‘God may view things differently.’

According to God he is not primarily concerned with our gifts of sacrifice, such as hours spent in field service, meeting attendance, and the numbers of those baptized at the last convention or how many millions of Bible based publications have been printed. What Jehovah expects is that we practice justice and mercy. The very essence of true worship, which Jehovah’s Witnesses boast of practicing, is that men in positions of oversight look after orphans and widows in their tribulation.

Those many victims and others aware of the terrible evils that have been and are being perpetrated in spiritual paradise may rightly wonder: ‘Does Jehovah not see? Will he not act?’

According to the Watchtower the answer is no. God will not act, because God has already acted, back in 1918, or whenever. The coming day of judgment is against the evildoers of Christendom and the world. But that very attitude on the part of the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses betrays them as being the ones pictured in the book of Zephaniah of whom Jehovah says: “At that time I will carefully search Jerusalem with lamps, and I will call to account the complacent ones, who say in their heart, ‘Jehovah will not do good, and he will not do bad.’”

Contrary to their assumptions, Jehovah will do something “bad.” He will call them to account for their faithlessness and unfaithfulness and bring upon them distress and humiliation. He will reduce their revered visible organization to a heap of ruin. Though they may presently feel secure in their watch tower-like fortress, their lawyers will not be able to forestall the judgment of the Almighty. No restraining order will be effective against the army that Jehovah is now mustering. No gag order will be able to prevent Jehovah from speaking his judgments. Bethel’s mighty spiritual warriors will become terrified. Zephaniah continues: “The great day of Jehovah is near! It is near and it is approaching very quickly! The sound of the day of Jehovah is bitter. There a warrior cries out. That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and anguish, a day of storm and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick gloom, a day of the horn and of the battle cry, against the fortified cities and against the high corner towers.”

The chapter entitled Zephaniah in Jehovah Himself Has Become King considers the prophecy in more detail.

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2017-10-28T18:29:28+00:00 July 27th, 2016|Child Abuse, Commentary|266 Comments
  • at first i thought humm timings always interesting then as i kept reading the daly text turned to vomit right at the end – “While you may feel…” turns right around and just stabs you. no wonder why many give up on Jehovah.

    • Sam

      ouch…tell that to the 1000’s abused and then raped by policy. They have no sense of remorse… perhaps they should take that counsel to themselves. Jehovah sees thing differently as they, and their punishment will be deserved. So perhaps there is some truth in there

  • The Governing Body members, in their effort to hold on to their lofty position within God’s temple, have hired powerful lawyers whom they trust and who have become their advisers rather than Jehovah or Jesus, even when their advice goes contrary to what the Scriptures teach. (John 13:34,35) Under the direction of these lawyers they have dealt harshly with many of Jehovah’s sheep. It is not unusual to have one of the Society’s lawyers represent in a court of law a prominent elder who has been charged with child molestation, or sexual harassment of a sister. Thus they protect their own interest and wealth from lawsuits, and attempt to hide wrongdoing, and in the process deny justice to the innocent ones, although they know full well Jehovah’s view of such matters: “Woe to those enacting crooked statutes and writing oppressive laws to keep the poor from getting a fair trial and to deprive the afflicted among my people of justice, so that widows can be their spoil and they can plunder the fatherless. What will you do on the day of punishment when devastation comes from far away? Who will you run to for help? Where will you leave your wealth?”—Isaiah 10:1-3, HCSB.

    • I am some what dismayed at there actions. I do understand the operation of error and I clearly understand how the man of lawlessness is behind these terrible acts and mistreatments of jehovah’s sheep but still it is so unsettling to me of how far the leaders the GB / Watchtower has strayed from the path that Jehovah has set before them. the scriptures say it all.

      Ezekiel 34:8

      8 ‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “because my sheep have become prey, food for every wild beast of the field, for there was no shepherd, and my shepherds did not search for my sheep; rather, they kept feeding themselves and did not feed my sheep,”’

      Ezekiel 34:10

      10 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I am against the shepherds, and I will demand an accounting of them for my sheep, and I will dismiss them from feeding my sheep, and the shepherds will no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouth, and they will no longer be food for them.’”

      Luke 12:33

      33 Sell your belongings and give gifts of mercy. Make money pouches that do not wear out, a never-failing treasure in the heavens, where no thief gets near and no moth consumes.

      Matthew 6:20

      20 Rather, store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

      Matthew 13:44

      44 “The Kingdom of the heavens is like a treasure, hidden in the field, that a man found and hid; and because of his joy, he goes and sells everything he has and buys that field.

      Matthew 19:21

      21 Jesus said to him: “If you want to be perfect, go sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come be my follower.”

      Ezra 1:2

      2 “This is what King Cyrus of Persia says, ‘Jehovah the God of the heavens has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has commissioned me to build him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      Yeah that’s right brother!!!

  • “The confusion this creates in the mind…is incomprehensible.” you got that right.

    “Bethel’s lawyers are on record disavowing that elders have any fiduciary responsibility whatsoever to protect the children under their charge from the crimes of a congregant.” what does that say, right ther? ? James 1:27 One has to be a “stupid” not to understand that

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Isaiah 1:17 Learn to do good, seek justice, Correct the oppressor,Defend the rights of the fatherless child,*And plead the cause of the widow.”

      1 Timothy 5:3 3 Give consideration to widows who are truly widows.

      Deuteronomy 27:19 Cursed is the one who perverts the judgment of a foreign resident, a fatherless child,* or a widow. (And all the people will say, ‘Amen!’)

  • e.v.g

    Mighty Jesus will reveal this deceitful slave, similar when he said to Judas “What you are doing, do it more quickly.”

  • T L C

    Some years ago I worked with a lady who was sexually abused by an elder in her congregation. At the time she told me the story she had long since been inactive (as I was). The story she told me was so heart wrenching. She described how her own parents doubted her story (her mother especially). Despite this fact her parents sat down with the committee to let her tell the story and the brother had his privileges taken away for a short while. The brother was apparently well liked and well respected so she was often made to feel bad by her mother for bringing this “accusation” to light. Eventually the brother was back in good standing and was soon back to giving public talks in front of the congregation. My co-worker described the eerie feelings she had when she saw him on stage and the utter disgust she developed for the organization. She couldn’t wait till she turned 18 so she could leave home and leave the past behind her, When she was old enough to move out she did so without looking back and without any regard for how she was raised. When I heard her story I wondered how Jehovah would view this? It wasn’t her fault that she was molested and nothing was done about it. How could that be held against her in the end? Even though I was inactive at the time for various reasons I never doubted the validity of what I had been taught until that moment. I found myself wondering whether this organization I was raised in could really be “the truth.” I mean…I believed that the teachings were accurate (as far as who Jehovah and Jesus is, the purpose for mankind, etc…) but I just couldn’t understand how Jehovah would make it so that the ONLY way to salvation is by being one of Jehovah’s Witnesses when the organization itself was so flawed. Every witness knows the inseparable link that Jehovah has to his “visible organization.” It’s as if EVERYTHING the organization does and says is approved by Jehovah and every viewpoint is Jehovah’s viewpoint so that a person can NEVER disagree with anything. And, if a person leaves the organization it is as if they are leaving Jehovah.

    I am so thankful that I now have “new light” about these things. I just wish there were a way to reach these “dispersed ones” of Jehovah’s people. But I’m sure Jehovah’s way will be revealed in due time…

    • Song of Hannah

      Ezekiel 34:10-12 is of great comfort to me, regarding those who have been stumbled and have left the truth because of such evil treatment.

      Ezekiel 34:10 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘I am against the shepherds, and I will demand an accounting of them for my sheep, and I will dismiss them from feeding my sheep, and the shepherds will no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouth, and they will no longer be food for them.’” 11 “‘For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Here I am, and I myself will search for my sheep, and I will care for them. 12 I will care for my sheep like a shepherd who has found his scattered sheep and is feeding them. I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered in the day of clouds and thick gloom.”

      • T L C

        Thanks for sharing this!!! It is so beautiful that it almost brings me to tears. I always knew that there had to be another way for such ones. Thankfully Jehovah is the ultimate judge and not man!

        • Song of Hannah

          Me too! I want to cry every time I read Ezekiel 34!

          • Kevin b

            That’s one of my favorite scriptures. It definitely helps me to make since of what’s going on. There are are few good shepards, but in my experience many are not. What’s ruined them is having to do what the Watchtower tells them to do. WT in their eagerness to control the witnesses have enacted rules we must follow, and punishments if we don’t.
            Jesus said at Mt 11:30 For my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.”
            In my opinion Watchtowers yoke is far from kindly and the load they put on you is not light. We need to continue to endure these things now that Jehovah allows, and have faith that he will do what was said in Eze 34: 22 And I will save my sheep, and they will no longer become something to prey upon; and I will judge between a sheep and a sheep. 23 I will raise up one shepherd over them, my servant David, and he will feed them. He himself will feed them and become their shepherd. 24 And I, Jehovah, will become their God, and my servant David a chieftain among them. I myself, Jehovah, have spoken.
            When the Watchtower has run its course, and has fulfilled its role as Jehovah has allowed. Somehow they will be entirely discredited and become an antichrist. At this moment when the Watchtower is no more, the power they have given to the elders as shepards also will be no more. There may be brothers that are trustworthy and take the lead, but I don’t think it will be in an unloving way that causes you to fear getting disfellowshipped like now.
            Eze 34:27 The trees of the field will yield their fruit, and the soil will give its produce, and they will dwell securely on the land. And they will have to know that I am Jehovah when I break their yoke bars and rescue them from those who enslaved them.
            No more yoke bars. It’s gonna be a grand time indeed!

    • Burt Reynolds

      Hello TLC p, Very simply put and with wide boarders of generalisation, Mollestation at a young age….any age really, but particularly during the formative years will result in a skewed mental outlook, in other words, not the outlook or personality that the child would have developed. Arrested mental development is one, personality disorder is another, psychosis et al. can result. Not always, but then one victim is too much. Thus there is every likelihood that the victim will not follow the course in life that may have been his or hers. The soul, for want of a better word, has been murdered. As there is no cure, only alleviation, the person would have to construct a new personality through therapy, taking on the personality traits that they enjoy in others and that society finds acceptable and ‘wear’ these until they become their own, like a new jacket. The same psychiatric principles are applied for other traumas such as post traumatic stress I soldiers who have seen so much that is beyond their capability to assimilate rationally. The point being in answer to your question is that yes, Jehovah would see who that person would have been. The bible says so in that Jehovah saw someone before they were born…someone help me out here with the scripture, we were only discussing it the other day…..and due to the damage done to the victim, I would hazard a guess that He is the only one who could, so buried are the feelings and so loosely sponsored, the actions of the victim following such assaults. Having said that, the basis of who we are, ergo the ID, is not so affected, it being mostly the ego and super ego overlay of the ID of the victim that comes to grief. The basic human, stripped of feeling and all sorts of personable attributes still exists and there, the love of goodness will still reside over and above the often damaging actions and behaviours that the victim now uses to express their unspoken grief, shame, hurt, abandonment. Whether the victim is able to help themselves is an unknown and as Jehovah can see people before they are even born, as the creator, then we can rest easy in his full knowledge of who we are and who we may have been and those of us who have been dispersed for whatever reason, will be shepherded by the true shepherd. Not one will be lost. Jehovah, the personification of love, knows all things.

      • Joe Dman

        “I think therefore I am”.

      • T L C

        Nicely put. Thank you for putting it so eloquently:-) I am thankful that despite all that has happened that caused me to exit the organization…I have kept an innate desire to be close to Jehovah. It was hard for a long time because I was under the delusion that the ONLY way to be close to him was to be close to his organization. But, I am thankful that he has shown me otherwise and I now have full confidence that he will do the same for all of the others who have been scattered and stumbled for various reasons…thanks again:-)

        • Burt Reynolds

          Your experience here is the same as I went though. Take heart…it is survivable. Drink life’s waters free here.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Hello Robert, could you please elborate on your comment that the watchtowers policy is ‘designed’ to protect the paedophile? My understanding was that the watchtower replied solely on the two witness rule and overlaid that spurious attachment with ‘not bringing the name of Jehovah into disrepute’ both of which carry enough leverage to dominate the consciousness of the average elder. (Interestingly, this leverage of disrepute even extended to head lice…cooties?…. where JW families would not even leave their house for the ‘shame’ of it that ‘others’ may apply). Does the watchtower actually have a legal policy over and above the abuses and misapplication of the scriptures?

    • ELiJAHxSEVEN

      Burt, I sent this to Brother King awhile ago and he did mention it on the site..not to answer for Robert, maybe this can shed some light in regards your query…

      • Burt Reynolds

        Thanks Elijah.

      • did I read that correctly?????

        • Ignorant pompous fool

          I know Leonard i read it and thought the same thing. Now we get a glimpse of why Jehovah is coming to set matters straight with his slaves. They haven’t been faithful in their assignment to protect Jehovahs sheep, whom he has put under there care to protect the flock.

          • I’m shocked to say the least.

          • when are you going to change your name? it does not suit you my friend lol.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Any suggestions Leonard?

            • Volcanic

              Daisy calls you Iggy………..so it shall be 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              At last someone has come up with an alternative! I can do Iggy. Can’t do ignorant much more. Hippopotamus would have been fun though.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              How about my my real Joseph?

            • Burt Reynolds

              Your real name is Joseph? . You’ll have to be joseph2.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Yeah I mentioned it before on another comment.

            • Leonard k

              Well there’s a nice idea lol.

            • how about praise Jah

            • but remember if you take that name you must do all you can to live up to it lol.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              How long have you known me know Leonard? If you don’t know by now, how ignorant, pompous and foolish I am, then I am certain, you will never find anyone, who could live up to that name. I called myself that name because only I could ever live up to that name.

            • I don’t think that is true of you yes I know you a while now and just by speaking with you I can tell your nether pompous or a fool. I think your to hard on your self and you need to remember that it is Jehovah who will judge you and no one else.

              Luke 6:37

              37 “Moreover, stop judging, and you will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and you will by no means be condemned. Keep on forgiving, and you will be forgiven

              1 Timothy 1:15

              15 This saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. Of these, I am foremost.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Doesn’t the bible tell us to test ourselves, too see whether or not we are in the faith? When you know what Jehovah is requiring of you and you constantly fall short every single day of your life, how are you supposed to feel? I know Jehovah is merciful, but when you claim to love him with all your heart, soul and mind and your not living up to what he wants too see from you, shouldn’t it kill you inside? When all you want to do is live for him and yet you fail at that. Genuine love for Jehovah can not came from selfish motives. We have to cleanse ourselves of every defilement that exists within us not because we fear Jehovah in the sense most people fear god, but because our greatest fear is hurting the one we love, who gave his only begotten son on my behalf so that I may be reconciled to him. You see know why I call myself that name. I’m not condemning myself at all, that’s just how I see myself.

            • Volcanic

              would you ever take those steel toe-capped boots off & stop stomping all over yourself, Joseph.

            • keep in mind that we are imperfect and Jehovah understands that. Jehovah does not expect that we can be perfect for the time being but he does expect us to keep trying. we fall short of jehovah’s glory every day but that does not mean he we should give up.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              That’s what it is all about, never give up, keep trusting in Jehovah and he will carry you through. Thanks Leonard.

            • Ignorant pompous pinapple

              iggy pomp

              radioactive fools from planet pompous

              pompous power

              teenage mutant pompous fools

              ignorant’s fool’s pompous punch out

              pompous pomp and the funky fools

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Hi Dead Alien, you can call me whatever you like. But Joseph is much easier, I think. I could be wrong though.

            • roger roger.. i mean Joseph

            • Beverly kenyon

              Not meaning to offend IPF, but I’m finding DA’s post funny!! No offence but it did make me lol.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Yes Dead alien is very funny indeed. We need laughter, laughter is good for the heart. I’m glad he made you laugh. Jehovah is a happy god. Nice to meet you Beverly.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, hiya, IPS, didn’t want you to think I was taking the mick out of you! That’s one of the reasons I adore DA…he’s hilarious. That cheered me up on a gloomy Sunday over here in Blighty! You’re exactly right on the points you make on the subject of laughter…nothing to beat having a good laugh! Jehovah God was so very generous when he created us with the ability to enjoy humour and to make each other laugh…he could’ve made us miserable! Your name Ignorant Pompous Fool is very funny…but I think it’s an Australian thing…to be self deprecating and direct and down to earth…you are from Australia aren’t you IPF? My sister lived for many years in Perth but came back here when her marriage ended and my niece lives in Sydney so I’ve been told a lot about Australians and the country. Really lovely to meet you IPF.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Beverly, nice to meet you. The good old Barmy England, were I hear, it’s always overcast and gloomy. I’m from Sydney, were there’s a large expat british community. Most of them love to live by the beach. I recently came into contact with a British man, who’s here on a working visa, who was the president of the atheist community of his university in England. Since he was an intellectual, I thought to myself if we ever got into a conversation about the existence of god he would outclass me. He told me how he was a huge fan of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins. So we started talking and I put forth my case for why I believe. He told me that nearly everyone in England is an atheist 60% at least. He said their are Protestants but its not really something people describe themselves as being, christian atheists, if that makes sense. But he was surprised when I started explaining to him that mainstream denominational christianity has nothing in common with Biblical christianity what so ever. Once I explained to him that there is no hell, when people die there is no conscious existence that survives the death of the physical body, which is impossible since all our thoughts and cognitive abilities are connected to our brains. When the brain dies all our thoughts ceace to exist, so how could we possible take an immaterial body to heaven without our brains, how would we think, feel, love, discern without any consciousness, which exists inside our brain. I was then able to rationalize using logic and reason what hell really means. When our thoughts ceace to exist we return to the ground from which we were created, our end point shows were our starting point originated. From there I was able to build up too the fact that it is Jehovahs intention to reserect the vast majority of people who have ever lived and died back on to this earth. Only this time under paradise like conditions, prior to what Adam and Eve experienced before they sin, with the prospect of never dying again, having all the effects of sin and death reversed, so we wont need to toil anymore in futility. This propostion of god he could accept and it was rational. I will try to speak with more about it.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Joe, over here your average Brit ….and I’m talking about here in the northwest will describe themselves as a proddy dog…religious slang. For most of them attending church is either for weddings, christenings and funerals and maybe sometimes going on a Sunday but theres a lot of smaller denominations and gatherings with a lot of the immigrants that have arrived here in this country, especially the Africans who are very religious and some groups of them have said they have come to this country simply to preach to us over here!!?? Unbelievable!! So yes, that man is right about most people describing themselves as Protestants. Wow! You did a good witness there with that Atheist guy using reason and logic…the key words there when talking about the truth to ones like him. One of my ex’s years ago and before I was baptised was and still is a Astro Physicist who now lives in America working for NASA did not believe there was a God…which I find incredible seeing as how he was always peering into space and could see for himself the order and magnificence of space and I used to have some epic arguments and discussions with him…it was so frustrating…sometimes I wanted to physically fight him! Lol. Glad I didn’t marry him because I’d be doing time now in the big house and I’d have the most hideous prison hair as well…it that annoying trying to make him see sense…I’ve noticed with extremely intelligent people like him they’re devoid of any common sense…they just don’t get it! I hope you do speak more about that experience Joe.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Like a famous physicist once said why would a loving and forgiving god send people to hell for eternity, that’s a cosmic Saddam Hussein, not a god you would worship, Lol.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Good point Joe. So very true…unlike the nonsensical nonsense they believe! As DA would say, Huh! Lol.

            • one time there were these two guys walking along side each other, One a man of astronomy One a man of God, discussing the order of things and origin of life, the man of God was astonished how the Astronomer who researches deep space could only think we are all by chance an not created by some masterful Worker.

              the next day the man of God was walking alone thinking of how to convince this Astronomer the truth of things and as he was pondering over this he passed by a carpenter shop and thought to himself i need a model of these stars and planets so next time i talk with that guy we have a solor display model of the things hes always resarching. so he asked the shop keeper about it and gave him the specifications of the planets rotation, orbit and movments the astronomer was always telling him about and the Carpenter replied that he would see what he could do.

              so a couple days later he stoped by the shop to see the model the shop keeper was working on and he was astounded to see that the Carpenter went above and beyond the simple model he had in mind but it was a movingworking model with a crank that showed every planet in the solor system rotate accordingly. the man of God was amazed. he took the model and rushed to the Astronomers house to show him this model and the order of what they discuss with each other.

              the Astronomer upon seeing this working model was very perplexed and at wonder of who could have designed such an awesome thing and then asked the man of God ‘who made this wonderful device?’ the man of God replied ‘who who indeed. how is it you suggest a maker was involved in this mere small scale model but the actual full vast universe itself has no Designer?’

            • Beverly kenyon

              Awww…DA, I love it! If only I knew that when I was seeing Dr. Stephen Charnley. He was actually a theoretical Astrophysicist from Motherwell, Scotland and moved to America, got married to a woman called Ann who’s a psychiatrist from Wisconsin and I think he now lives in Washington having moved from San Francisco…well that’s what I was told when I last spoke to him a few years ago…because he’s now married I thought it was inappropriate to keep in touch with him. In fact he left the write up of his PHD papers in one of my cupboards stuffed in a plastic bag and I held on to it but one day I thought I’ve got to get rid of the past so chucked it out and when we last spoke I told him I’d got rid of it and he went bonkers! Oops!! But that man would not accept there was a Creator but I know for a fact he would remember my religion. I will remember that post DA. I hope you’re ok DA…I worry about you!

            • Joe the cosmologist

              A brother once told me, the main reason why people don’t believe in a creator, is because it’s too simple. To believe their is creative force behind the universe, which governs the laws of physics and the laws of nature, is way too simple minded for them believe it. Kind of reminds of what jesus said in prayer once, while he was teaching the people. I thank you father for hiding these things from the wise and the learned and revealing them to the simple and the innocent.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Joe, humans never fail to astonish me. Everything has to be complicated! And they have to be full of their own cleverness…give me plain and simple any day….life is hard as it is anyway. Also in 1Cor1: 19-21 Jehovah talks about how he views the wisdom of this world. Don’t get me wrong I’m always in awe of really clever people, but I think they get to the point where they get a bit carried away with their cleverness in denying that there’s a creator who made everything!!

            • 1914for100Alex

              Well done Joe! I’ve found, while surfing the net, that when people give their reasons for being atheist or agnostic it tends to be because they have no understanding of the Bible. They take what they’ve heard and apply it to Jehovah. Hopefully this guy is open to hearing more.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Alex, yes when ever I see him, we always have talks about the existence of god, his sort of come around too a deistic view of god, but the personal god of the bible, to him is streching the imagine a bit too far he believes. He then asked me you really don’t believe god created Adam and Eve do you? I told him it makes a lot more sense, then what science has proposed. Abiogenesis is impossible and scientists freely admit it. To believe that life came from non life, to me is not science. That the chemicals in the early earths atmosphere were deposited into an ocean about 4.6 billion years ago and from there these molecules formed to create the first living single cell, via a discharge, either a from spark of lighting or another form of chaotic energy, which tends to destroy and not create. Then this single cell become self replicating in order to create multi celled organisms, which by the way has never been explained how

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Can some how account for all the diversity we see around us, to me that sounds more like myth and fantasy, then all powerful creator who is not limited in his creative power. They try to but Jehovah in a box according to their scentific reasoning, that some how god cannot have any explanatory power. I sent the other by accidently pressing send on my i phone. Typinf on the phone is hard.

            • Volcanic

              don’t know what your problem is, Joseph, it’s so simple, just ask any housewife who had home made soup sitting on the stove for a few days. It looks perfectly normal for the first 2 days, then it gets a funny haze on it, leave it a couple of days longer & it stinks to high heaven. After a week if you take the lid off creatures come crawling out & there you have evolution in a nutshell. In fact there is a childs cartoon programme called ‘The Clangers’, they have a soup dragon who disappears into a crater in the moon & every so often appears with a pan full of this soup. It is the soup dragon who originally created all this!

              As to the single cell becoming replicating, again, simple, the stinky soup grows, bubble by bubble & each bubble contains enough DNA to produce sea dwelling creatures which then decide to walk the kitchen floor, turn into monkeys & then start talking! The bubbles containing dinosaur DNA pop before getting to the rim of the pan, so that is why they are extinct now.
              That reminds me, must get a plumber in to unblock my kitchen sink drain otherwise there will be hundreds of new specimens replicating in there….**Annie cries in frustration**

              I wonder why we never see monkeys evolving these days? Must have got bored with being humans!

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Annie, I think your explaination sounds much better then mine, do you mind if I use it in the future? Lol I love your sense of humour. I might experiment tonight when I get home. I will boil some water, throw in as many ingredients as I can, run some electrity through it, via my television short circuiting. Throw it in the fridge for a week, then check to see what it has produced. I will then let you know the results of my experiment.

            • Volcanic

              rofl! Actually it works better if you leave it out in the kitchen, Joseph, more natural temps, similar to those of millenniums ago….like, 250,000,000 years when mankind walked the earth **rolls eyes**

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Yes silly me, we need to have the right elements in place to kick start the chain reactions necassary for the building blocks to come together. There’s not enough oxygen in the fridge. Lol.

            • e.v.g

              Do not forget Iron fools and the Depompous Mode

            • Let’s have a vote

              Aussie Joseph
              Down Under Joseph
              Sydney Joseph
              Joseph
              Formally know as IPF
              IPF-“not”

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Lol all this fuss about a username. I think it’s hilarious to be honest. But if all of you are really offended by it, then I will change it for the sake of my family. Just give me a sec.

            • It is kind of funny, we all just feel uncomfortable calling or thinking of you like that, unless you’re one of the GB members.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Done name changed

            • Volcanic

              mwaabwaahahaaaa, which one of the GB members were you thinking of?………..yup, sorry everyone, naughty corner for me! I’m just suffering nervous reaction from being at my first public talk for ages.

            • Sam

              Have you been already? Let us know how it went 🙂

            • Volcanic

              yes, I’m home now. The talk was given by a very amusing brother & it was ‘Imitate the mercy of the Great Shepherd’, I enjoyed it, but it was ‘thin’, only talking about various examples from the Bible. I kept thinking ‘Robert wouldn’t have said that’ or ‘Robert would add more meat to that’. I had to force myself to stop thinking of you all here.
              One of the elders shook my hand, the one who counseled me about FB postings looked at me a lot, but completely ignored me otherwise, I just stared back, but it did hurt. A couple of sisters spoke to me, but it was too busy to see the anointed sister, in fact she was late in & didn’t see me. I shall skype message her later with a couple of points from the talk just so she knows I was there.

              I am happy that I went though, I felt Jehovah smiling & it was really good to come under a prayer to Him.

            • Sam

              Yes I know exactly what you mean! It is a whole lot of milk and very little meat…and everyone is very content with that. Nonetheless it is nice to be with God’s people… I’m glad some sisters reached out to you. You are smart to go just for the talk, the wt would’ve annoyed you today lol Well done Annie! I’m certain Jehovah was very pleased that you havnt allowed the sins of priests keep you away from the temple!

            • Joe Dman

              I’m proud of you Annie

            • Burt Reynolds

              I was going to say ……….but then I thought the better of it……..Lett us not sin.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Over estimating the gb again…..sigh…..

            • Burt Reynolds

              Not offended, but unless you learn to love yourself, you cannot love others. The other side of the coin is the watchtower, where they think more of themselves than is necessary. So it’s happy medium time for all of us.

        • ELiJAHxSEVEN

          Unfortunately, the truth is stranger than fiction when it comes from the watchtower these last days….
          When Jesus saw the temple, he wept…Luke 19:41….I too, shed many tears, and pray for the day Jehovah will set these matters straight…

      • T L C

        My father is an elder…is this something he would use???

        • he may have no choice or possibly speak out and face BEING DFSPD.

          • T L C

            Yes you’re right they will have no choice. I actually read it wrong…I was thinking it was strictly for the service committee. But when I reread it I see that the service committee has to make sure the elders have deleted these files. Wow! This is amazing. What a delusion they are under. The devil has truly transformed himself into “an angel of light” so much so that they can’t even realize what is taking place right underneath their noses.

            • that is why I am so amazed.

            • T L C

              Exactly! I remember once when I was speaking to my father about Jehovah’s coming judgments due, in part, to the way the society is handling child abuse. I told him about all the lawsuits, news reports, and how governing body members like Geoffery Jackson had to testify before the Royal Commission on these matters. Despite all of this…he refused to acknowledge that there was a widespread problem. He made light of it and said that these were just isolated incidence and that if there were any elders keeping these things secret they were probably corrupt and Jehovah would deal with them directly. I was shocked and horrified. I feel sad and that my father is an elder as he is one of the shepherds that Jehovah will call to account. I don’t think he has sat on any committee’s where there were accusations of child abuse but I’m sure that if he did…he would follow the admonition of the society just like all the other elders have. Such a trajedy

            • the light sure gets brighter an brighter doesnt it

            • T L C

              For sure!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              James 1:
              2 Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you meet with various trials,
              3 knowing as you do that this tested quality of your faith produces endurance.
              4 But let endurance complete its work, so that you may be complete and sound in all respects, not lacking in anything
              9 But let the lowly brother rejoice* over his exaltation,

              13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone.
              19 Know this, my beloved brothers: Everyone must be quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger,
              20 for man’s anger does not bring about God’s righteousness.
              21 Therefore, put away all filthiness and every trace of badness, and accept with mildness the implanting of the word that is able to save you

        • ELiJAHxSEVEN

          The Elders here are very aware….

      • Volcanic

        if they are instructed to destroy things then what are they hiding & from whom?
        Are they keeping files/documents hidden from the authorities too or just in case rank & file witnesses stumble across them?
        Maybe I read it wrong, but it seems very sneaky to me.

        • ELiJAHxSEVEN

          Dear Sister, the revelation of the watchtower’s child abuse records given by Barbara Anderson are a strong testemant to the “hidden agenda” and the “sneaky” actions of the leadership….So sad this stumbling block has brought so many of Jehovah’s sheep to stray..
          I am so very leary when speaking to others about the apostate actions of the organization so that I do not cause any to stumble..I am proud to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and I dearly love the brothers and sisters…this issue is so hard to address!

          • ELiJAHxSEVEN

            Brother King has brought this issue to the fore…I am in no way qualified as he to expose and speak Jehovah’s judgments to the watchtower, I humbly try to echo the Truth he speaks…Love for the brothers should always move us to warn and protect them from spiritual danger!

            • Volcanic

              may Jehovah Himself give you the strength you need, Brother Elijah.

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              Thank you so much!

      • I was just thinking have any of the courts seen this I mean they must have right and I wonder what they think of this memo?

        • ELiJAHxSEVEN

          The Zalkin law firm in San Diego has represented many cases and are currently taking legal action against the watchtower on abuse victims behalf…its public knowledge that the “predator list” kept by the watchtower exist and many have leaked information to the public as is the case with the service committee document that reveals the intent to order elders to conceal criminal evidence…thats why we see “lawsuits popping up like poisonous weeds” against the watchtower…(Hosea 10:4)

          • I see thank you for that I mean to read that memo says an awful lot against the WT/GB it shows intent to conceal vital information. I am so upset about all of this I love my brothers and sister I love gods house and I feel cought in the middle split in two. as for me no I would not cover anything I would speak my mind and if that ment getting DFSPD then so be it but at the same time my heart is broken split in two because we well know that there are many faithful brothers and sisters being kept in check by this man of lawlessness. its a very difficult thing to cope with.

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              We shall keep on enduring in faith and persisting in prayer to Jehovah….He shall set matters straight…just a little while longer!

      • Beverly kenyon

        Reading that document which is disgusting, cowardly, illegal and faithless, reminds me of when Jehovah took Ezekiel by a tuft of his hair to The temple in Jerusalem and through a hole in the wall showed him the detestable things they were doing in God’s house…getting to view that document shows their secret bad practices. Ezekiel 8: 3-9.

    • ewatchman

      There is the two witness rule, which is scriptural. But that shouldn’t be the end of it. Child abuse is a criminal offense. Pedophiles can go to prison for a long time if convicted by the state. The Watchtower acts like it is an internal matter solely. Instead of bringing in the police and using their expertise to interrogate a suspect and interview the accuser, perhaps performing a medical examination, the police investigation could actually serve as a second witness to confirm the accuser’s account. But the WT isn’t interested in that. Elders have been instructed to not involve the police unless absolutely required by law. And even then elders are commanded not to cooperate with the police.

      In cases where the state is involved the WT resolutely refuses to allow the police or courts to have access to the records of the elders discussions with the pedo. There is a case pending right now where the WT is being fined $4,000 per day for their refusal to produce records to the court.

      In the past the WT has even provide legal defense of pedophiles who ended up being convicted.

      So, yeah, they may say they “abhor child abuse” but everything they do provides cover for pedophiles.

    • if you listen to the chapter Spiritual Paradise, it explains it too

  • Bklyn Kevin

    Excerpt:
    QUESTION: Dear Robert, how is it that that sex offenders out in the world have to go on a sex registry that lets parents know of child molesters living in their neighborhood, that secular law prohibits sex offenders from living within range of a school or park… and yet a sex offender could be sitting next to you and your young child in a Watchtower meeting, and you’d have no idea whatsoever. How is it that worldly people have better protection than the brothers and sisters in our congregations?

    ANSWER: That is an important question. And there is only one acceptable answer.

    The reason the Watchtower’s policies provide cover for child predators and recklessly expose children to them, thereby repudiating Christianity itself and Heaven’s mandate to defend the weak and vulnerable, is because the leadership of the organization has been infiltrated and subtly influenced by wicked men. In other words, the truth not withstanding, the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses has been successfully over-reached by Satan, the Devil. There is no other satisfactory explanation.

    This is exactly what happened to Israel and Judah on numerous occasions, and the first century Christian society too; so it is not some unique happening.

    Consequences for the Watchtower’s Child Abuse. Read more> Policyhttps://e-watchman.com/consequences-for-the-watchtowers-child-abuse-policy/

    • Peter Zuccerberg

      I agree. It is worth noting that I found an online artical with a picture of Russell with a Rothschild and other ultra whealthy Freemasons. The Watchtower (to make a long story short) is directed by and has had financing by these bankers, who appear to be obsessed with a 1 world government and the witnesses readied for it when the watchtower goes down.

      These elite Jewish bankers are mostly pedophiles and sociopaths. So it’s no wonder the watchtower is permissive, lies to cover up, and pathologically keeps lying to cover up the exposed cover up.

      I wish could wake up and smell the coffee, but watchtower has done a remarkable job at putting it’s members to sleep unfortunately.

      Accordingly to that former governing body member supposedly gone apostate (his name escapes me at the moment) 1 member of the the governing body basically calls all day he shots so to speak to all the other members.

      • Volcanic

        would be interesting to see that picture, Peter. Welcome by the way, I see you just joined us today. We have ongoing ‘meetings’ here, in that every day we are discussing lots of things on all the articles so please join in, we look forward to your contribution. 🙂

        Do you mean Fred Franz – the former GB member?

        • Peter Zuccerberg

          I will put the pertinent link(s) here, within a couple of days, of Russell and friends and the said former gb members clip from his interviews. And thank you for the welcome to these discussions.

        • Peter Zuccerberg

          Go to – https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJHZYa1CRg

          Start at about 14:00, the picture amazingly is in the Watchtowers own magazine, or rather, what the Watchtower was called in circa 1878, which was “Zion”. Odd name, as at present that term is synonymous with Zionist in the free media circles. In any case, many people have these now out of print volumes, in fact some enthusiastic people have all them. The picture depict Rothschild,Russell ET Al. But before sailing off for England. The above YouTube of a radio cast also elucidates some other stunning revelations, which I breakdown later.

          Additionally, I pinpoint the clip where Franz declares that the entire Governing Body follows the dictates and orders of 1 of its members. So the Watchtower is run by 1 man.

          This man is no doubt in my mind, a Freemason, or controlled by Freemasons and their bizzare rituals and beliefs, like Russell and the certainly the Rothchilds and these other eccentric trillionair Jewish bankers.

          • DA

            lota blah blah blah no duh with imagenation bias suggestive baloney and obvious wrong info in most of that video. little truth. screw loose con Santos Bonacci is a guest i noticed also, what does that tell ya

            • e.v.g

              The world is full of deceivers and they have many followers, the watchtower have their own deceivers also, but jesus said something interesting (John 10:27) probably we are privileged.

            • DA

              well i hope Jehovah fixes me and keeps me around. all i ever worry about with him.

        • Peter Zuccerberg

          I am a little busy these days/weeks and I have not been able to do the proper research to pinpoint the Franz interview clip. I wish I had downloaded it when I initially saw it.

          Rest assured, I will send it to you shortly.

          Also, I found several none JW sites historical archival genealogical sites that have archived the Zion’s Watchtower from it’s beginning in the 1800’s to the present 2016.

          Unfortunately the sites I have found only a scanned letter from Russell to Lord Baron Rothschild praising him and confirming future plans/projects together.

          I am zeroing in on the scanned picture of Rothschild and Russell, it is just a matter of time now.

          It seems you have to approach this as would a scientist/historian/researcher as some of these archival sites do not perform a strict scanning of the original text and pictures, which is what I want. But it is out there, and I am confident I will eventually get the picture in days or weeks at the most.

  • LW

    One of Robert’s articles on the Wayback machine site mentioned that we will all have to make a full confession before Jehovah and Jesus for all the wrong things we have done…it’s one thing for worldly people to be confronted with this, but for JWs, that will be something. Imagine having to fully answer up to the fiery eyed Christ, accompanied by his angels…even for those of us who haven’t commited gross sins. Talk about getting on your knees and begging for mercy.

    • thats about all i seem to ever do. everyones looking farward to their castle in paradise, (i personally get sick of hearing) which is fine, i have dreams too but one of the main things for me has been to not sin anymore. i want to be sinless.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I don’t think I’ll want a home let alone a castle, if I get through. I’ll just want to sleep under a mighty oak or redwood and use a lion as a pillow, drink from a stream in the morning and feast off blackberries for breakfast. I’m going to row across the Atlantic, walk with Eric round his lake, and amble off to the Canadian Rockies where I will build a log cabin and curl up next to a bear in winter, so long as it doesn’t breath on me! And then I want to walk with my creator through the forests and hear the sounds of peace, even silence, and then ask him how he made time, where it goes, and where it comes from. I don’t know what I will do after that, but I know I will have time to think about it and where ever I wander, there my creator will be.

        • Volcanic

          that brought a tear to my eye, Burt! Especially your last line ‘there my creator will be’

          Time fascinates you, the marvelous math/s of Jehovah fascinates me, the way he used what we call Fibonacci numbers. I’m sorry to add a video, I know you are not fond of them on here, but this is exquisite….pity it doesn’t glorify God with the use of His name! Just the simple way He has used spirals to design everything, it staggers me!

          There are so many videos to enjoy, I particularly love the planets & all involved in the Universes, just sooo much to wonder at! One day, I will be able to learn from Jehovah about all these things, what a privilege.

          I thrill at everything Jehovah designed, He has such incredible beauty in his soul, such tenderness & such an eye for colour & pleasantness.

          I often wonder when I thank Jehovah for our food, does He actually KNOW what the different foods taste like? I mean, he obviously doesn’t eat, but must know the different textures, tastes etc., the same with perfumes from flowers, grass etc.
          Sorry everyone, post hijacked

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHAHHidWUcg

          • Burt Reynolds

            That was a lovely video Volcanic. I love that sort of thing though I have some sort of mathematical dyslexia and thus am mathematically illiterate and can only appreciate the results and not how one gets there. I was told it’s a common problem for people who are ambidextrous. My father was able to write with both hands at once and all sorts of weird things like rotate each hand around itself in opposite directions. I’m never sure that it is an advantage but it certainly was playing tennis or cricket where you can change from left to right hand and confuse the opponent. It is true right the way down from humans to snails that we are wonderfully made. How does the brain perceive light? It is only on the outside that we are exposed to light. We make sense of what we see, but how? Our hearts beat two and a half billion times in seventy years without any rest and a liver processes five hundred different chemicals,…….as well as alcohol! And just as much attention is paid to a snail shell as it is to our brain! Marvellous.

      • LW

        Understood, we all have to be refined to some point. Obviously we know things will occur soon, but how soon is soon? In another 50 years…i hope not..many brothers and sisters in my old congregation thought the end would come when I was born and that was twenty-five years ago.

        • why would you say that? comeon man. you know if another year goes by without raining that will be a suprize but only because Jehovah is showing show patients with us. – http://tinyurl.com/hfbho8n

          • LW

            Yeah. Hey I just wanted to apologize to you for that statement. It wasn’t necessary…

            • pifft why? you were just thinking. dont apologize. i just know you knew better then 50 years ha

            • LW

              Heh well I’m only 26 so 😉

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi LW, for a 26 year, your doing quite well. Most 26 year olds, out in the world, are not interested in anything, that might interfere with their life of self fulfilment and self gratification. It is a me first mentalility and the idea of a personal god who intervenes in human affairs is not appealing to their way of doing things. I’m 36 years old and didn’t start reading the bible until I was 26. For your age, you are miles ahead of anyone I know. I have read some of your posts and you seem very knowleagable. Keep it up.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    Jehovah will reduce their revered
    visible organization to a heap of ruin, their lawyers will not be
    able to forestall the judgment of the Almighty’. No gag
    order will be able to prevent Jehovah from speaking his judgments.
    Bethel’s mighty spiritual warriors will become terrified is the point to be noted

    • Beverly kenyon

      Hiya Basavaraj, love those points you brought out. You’re so right when you say They won’t be able to use their fancy lawyers to gag Jehovah God. He’s already spoken his judgements against them and soon he’s going to action it!

  • ewatchman

    NO COMMENTARY FOR THURSDAY

    • e.v.g

      Ooh!!!

  • Shelley.

    Matthew 10:26 … there is nothing covered over that will not be uncovered,and nothing secret that will not become known.

    • Joe Dman

      Weird. It’s like all activity on this site has stopped. I haven’t posted in a day or so and you’re the last one to post Shelley. Until now. I guess everyone is reading the book.
      But regarding your comment, that’s why it’s good to confess to the ones you wronged. It’s a good feeling that no one has anything on you or that you don’t have to worry that something your hiding will come out. So go ahead and confess your sins to us Shelley. I’m kidding, Don’t do that.

      • Beverly kenyon

        Hiya Joe Dman, I’ve been meaning to thank you for offering to pass on my email address….very kind of you. The only time I used to email was to my friend who now lives in China, so apart from that I don’t really email as I find it time consuming….same as I don’t bother with any social networks. At the moment I’m plowing through Brother King’s book trying to take in all the information for future use. It’s a bit of a hefty book with lots of fantastic information so it requires all my concentration. On a side note…been loving all your recent posts especially the one about the lady who lives out in the sticks. At least you got to witness to her and left her with something to think about. Passing on every little bit of information helps.

        • Joe Dman

          The E-mail thing started when I wanted to get Joseph’s e-mail so I posted my own. I was contacted by Daisy who wanted to know if I had some of the other posters emails. I told her I would put it out there. Actually it was Alexandra that put her email out a while back so I thought if a girl can do it. But seriously, you have to be cautious. I look forward to the day when nothing needs to be hidden and there will be nothing to fear. It’s unbelievable that there is fear of saying or doing something wrong, even in the Organization that magnifies Jehovah’s name. I suppose that’s why I talk so much here, I can’t anywhere else.
          About the lady in the sticks, or anybody I talk to. I want them to know the whole story so I make clear the only way to the truth is to learn it from the organization (or someone who learned it from them) but just as with the Jewish leaders, they made mistakes. I bring up the 1914 thing, the fact that true searchers for Jehovah are being gathered in our day, basic Bible truths and of course the kingdom. So it would be interesting to hear the conversation when the witness women that occasionally call on her come back. I stressed the urgency of our time. I can’t sugar coat anything anymore. I don’t hold back. So if there’s a chance for them to be ones who “hear that Jehovah is with them (the chosen)” then maybe they’ll recall and put their faith in action somehow. I gave her this website. She’s very knowledgeable and I told her that she could get questions answered here. It’s not that often someone shows that much interest and is actively searching the scriptures.

          • Beverly kenyon

            Well Joe, you took it upon yourself to actually do something about it! Because of my heavy duty family commitments, work and running a house I don’t have time for technology apart from EWatchman and the news. I adore my friend in China but even emailing to them was a bind! I understand your trepidation of doing and saying something wrong within God’s household but it’s a concept I find outrageous! What about the truth will set you free! There’s nothing free about living in a Stasi state! Bklyn Kevin a few days back posted about the GB being completely over reached by Satan and he’s so right because the fall out of that is witnesses like you have no freedom of speech and if you do think for yourself and speak up you then get expelled from the temple….so nothing new there with Satan as the religious leaders in Jesus’ days employed the same thing. Joseph was right when he said in a recent post of his that they were doing the work of their father the Devil! You’re right Joe not to hold back and sugar coat anything when you’re talking about Jehovah God’s Kingdom. You got to let your light shine now because the horrific darkness is coming soon and as a witness it’s your obligation. You seized your opportunity to witness to that woman and this time you can witness about the real bible truths that we’ve all learned here on this site instead of perpetuating some of the misleading things taught to us by the WT. Hopefully that woman and others will be curious and open to check out EWatchman….we’ve just got to keep telling anyone who will listen!!

            • Sam

              You guys are so right.. it’s really hard to maintain a balance of speaking the truth but also being shrewd enough to not bring ourselves under suspicion. I have a public talk that has an entire section i have to somehow dance around…all about 1914 and how apparently religion is in the target zone for destruction. heh. I’ll be glad when the time comes to declare whats going on when Christ says enough is enough

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Sam, you’ve got some judgement call to make there!! You have my sympathies. Hope you’re a master of spin! Lol. In Brother King’s book it mentions there is no biblical support for when it comes to the teaching that the tribulation starts with the destruction of Babylon the Great and also the harlot is riding the beast when it emerges out of the abyss…maybe you can get some inspiration from there but still being serpent and dove like….I’ve read your posts…you’re really good with words!

            • Sam

              Thanks for the compliment. And you are absolutely right about there being no evidence, also there’s no evidence that there is any move against religion by the UN. Thats why it’s difficult, i thought about ignoring the entire section altogether, it’s practically irredeemable lol

            • Beverly kenyon

              Sorry about that little interval Sam, Destiny was blasting out old school Whitney Houston on her wireless speakers so was busy throwing some shapes. Lol. I don’t know how you cope Sam…knowing real bible truths as taught by Brother King and having to reign in your thoughts and feelings when you associate. I would eventually explode. You have amazing self control! You need to talk to our God, Jehovah and tell him of your dilemma, of being stuck between a rock and a hard place! You’re conflicted. Aaargh! Bet you have no tongue left!! You’ve bitten it that many times. Lol.

            • Sam

              That paints quite the picture lol I’m constantly praying about it Bev, i go from feeling like i’m saying too much to not enough. But i definitely don’t have self control lol i will say what i can, but i immediately know what they are thinking… some pay attention tho.

            • Beverly kenyon

              I think in your situation Sam, you’re doing what you can given the circumstances but it makes me angry when I think it has to be like that! I’ve grown up relatively free so as far as I’m concerned I can speak freely! What’s wrong with that? So long as nobody is being hurt. My mind can’t assimilate not being able to freely say what I want! Sometimes I feel like I’ve taken the easy way out when I speak to a witness like you that’s still in and all that goes with still being in. Recently I’ve been asking Jehovah to guide me regarding going back and I honestly can say I feel a real sadness as I’m talking to him about taking that step. It’s like the elephant in the room. Should I? Should I not? I feel so happy and confident regarding my faith now so feel I would be taking a step backwards especially now that things are on the verge of kicking off spectacularly! I think most of us are carrying our own burdens and emotional baggage and trying to cope as best we can. Sorry for offloading unto you Sam but sometimes depending on who you’re talking to, it can just come flooding out. Hope you cope with that talk you’ve got to give and it all goes well.

            • Sam

              Well don’t despair Beverly, where you feel bad for not going back to the cong, I feel bad about not having the freeness of speech that you do. I hope you’re able to make a decision that will work for you. The advantage that you would have in returning is that you’ll be able to gain peoples trust now so that when things kick off you will be in a position to help. And in the meantime, our bros and sisters have many burdens and feel stumbled by what is going on even on a local cong scale… even those who appear to be the WT enthusiasts are disturbed by things that are developing but they put on a front so as not to show it. I have been noticing that lately. You could really prove to be a refreshment to them, just as you are to us here! Either way, as you said we all have a struggle whichever situation we find ourselves in. And don’t worry about your offloading, we’re here to bear the burdens of one another. Thanks for your supportive words. 🙂

            • Thinking

              If you were in my cong..you would be a huge encouragement to me!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Sister Thinking, it’s lovely to hear from you. From time to time you you still pop in my head. Thank you for those kind words. Hope everything is well with you and you’re still plodding on. As you can see I’m still wrestling with my dilemma but I’ll get there either way in the end. I just don’t want to rush into anything and set myself up for failure because at this moment in time I’m in a good place spiritually and with leaning on my Heavenly Father who has always been there for me and forgiving and supporting me through some really bad times…some self inflicted and some just being in this horrid system…I feel happy and I have to also say it all started when i found this site!! I’m still in amazement that I did! Once again it’s lovely hearing from you.

            • Volcanic

              why not just go back for the talks, Beverly, that’s what I’m doing. I can’t stomach the WT lies & parrot replies in the study section & I can’t do evening meetings anyway.. Mind you, I have the excuse of a 21 month old perfect pitch screamer when all is quiet so I can slip away. At least I am showing my face & don’t forget that Jehovah wants us in there, which is why I am swallowing hard & going back tomorrow.

              You know I haven’t been ‘accepted’ back into the fold yet & I don’t want to be, I shall tell them that if asked.I have no interest in being a registered member of the WTSociety! I don’t want my name in any of their files.

              I read on this site that Robert wants at least one of us in each congregation if possible for the future when they will need help adjusting, so, that’s as good as an order from Jehovah….remember, your congregation needs YOU hah! Have a wonderful day my darling friend & sister 🙂 xoxoxo

            • Beverly kenyon

              Wow, Volcanic, you are one steely woman! You walking back into your old congregation is making a bold statement that you love Jehovah and you won’t be put down, discarded and ignored plus you have back up with your little perfect pitch screamer get out clause…perfect pitch screamer…that’s funny,lol. But here’s the thing with me, when I speak to witnesses I just can’t help myself and I tell them some of the things I’ve learned here so I won’t last long before I’m slung right out! It just bubbles up in me and I just say it all…I’m not good at serpent and dove. I really can’t see what I can be taught in a Kingdom Hall that I’m already getting here plus I’ve met some of the most amazing witnesses from far away places and learned things from God’s Word that I was never taught…I don’t want to be fed tiny spoonfuls of Wormwood week in week out! I’ve got to this good place that I’m in spiritually with God’s help and faith and my own determination….no elder, no witness helped me…just my intense love for my God and to please him and to stop offending him. Btw, it’s lovely to see your friend join you here on EWatchman. Sally comes across as a lovely lady. Anyway, Volcanic, you enjoy your meeting…I have a feeling you will get a prodigal son reception! I’ll be thinking of you my lovely friend.xx

            • I think Volcanic has just become Super Volcanic !!!????

            • Beverly kenyon

              Mega lol. So true Joseph. Let’s just hope she doesn’t blow tomorrow!!

            • Burt Reynolds

              I’ve not gone back to the congregation yet either. Not sure what to do about it. Bit of a limbo. ?

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Burt, sometimes it does feel like being in limbo and also I sometimes feel like I’m back to sitting on the fence like I did before I got baptised regarding going back.

            • Thinking

              You will know when you are ready Burt…it’s a process…and it takes time….?

            • go to a different one, if not too far; incognito

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              I remember saying (and hearing others say) “I want a front row during Armageddon so I can share with resurrected one’s what it was like.” Think of going to meetings like “being in the front row before “the holy place” is destroyed. ” just an idea!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              The scriptures give us a preview of what Armageddon will be like from a front row perspective.

              Revelation 19:

              Great evening meal of God (17, 18)

              Wild beast defeated (19-21)

              17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God,

              18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of military commanders and the flesh of strong men and the flesh of horses and of those seated on them, and the flesh of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”

              19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the one seated on the horse and against his army.

              20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who worship its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur.

              21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword that proceeded out of the mouth of the one seated on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh

            • Volcanic

              hahahaa, nope! The super volcano has a metal lid on it for tomorrow. Got my full length lemon dress ready, my white floppy hat with a flowing ribbon & white shoes, nails & hair done, all my books ready to take back (that will take some explaining, they had to send to Madrid for a lot of them!) I’ll stroll in there like a brand new sunrise, (or a lemon meringue!) they won’t know what’s hit ’em! I think some of them are a bit scared of this old dragon anyway, I’m pretty good at withering looks if I don’t agree with anything, but I will be a good girl for Jehovahs sake.

            • You just described A Beautiful Woman with Confidence! ?❤

            • Volcanic

              **gulps loudly**………I know, I know, Manc, but I HAVE to go to prove to myself that I can & to fly in the face of those who want an excuse to shun me! I promise not to open this site up at all whilst I am there.
              Btw., did they chase the prodigal son back up the road when they saw him coming??? oooh-errr LOL

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah, you’re right Volcanic, but this time is different. You’re going back armed…with all the new bible knowledge you’ve been taught here on EWatchman and dangerous…in that you’re more confident because of the real bible truths you now know, because let’s face it, it’s pretty lightweight stuff being taught at the Kingdom Halls. Also try and remember what Sister Thinking and Joseph reminded ones like you going back…just aim for the wheat and brush aside the weeds…. and no table flipping!! Lol. You’re not expecting to get high fives when you get there but I’m sure you’ll get a warm welcome from genuine wheatlike ones in your Kingdom Hall and if you are chased back up the road, then just keep running!! Thinking of you.

            • Thinking

              Wow…good on you sis…xx

            • I understand the very hard position that many baptized JWS are in should I stay should I go should I return? of course every ones situation is different but consider this. if you leave the watchtower then satan wins he wins by deviding jehovah’s sheep he wins by cutting you off from spiritual food he wins by making you question your faith he over whelms Jehovah’s sheep with the man of lawlessness and satan wins by cutting you off from gods house but just stop and think what could happen if you stay or return? well you could stay or return and follow Roberts advice to try and stay under the radar while trying to plant seeds and I agree with that I mean maybe some of you are looking at this the wrong way. if you stay or return think about the gift of understanding that Jehovah has saw fit to bless you with and consider that a strength and try and share that gift with other sheep. yes many sheep are in a hard position but if you are here on Roberts site and have an understanding of the man of lawlessness and the operation of error then you have been given an accurate knowledge then Jehovah is spearing you this operation of error correct? and maybe you should try and do the same for all the other sheep as well. maybe Jehovah has saw fit to bless you with an accurate knowledge for this very reason. yes its a hard call for many JWS that come to learn of the operation of error but if you step back and look at the whole picture maybe you could see more clearly. this could very well be your test of faith. satan has his agents in gods house and maybe Jehovah is preparing many of you to be his agents as well but the question is will you remain faithful under this test and carry out jehovah’s will? or will you let satan cut you off from gods house and cast you into fear and doubt. if we understand the operation of error then that is our strength a blessing from Jehovah and we should endure just as jesus has endured and carry out Jehovah;s will. satan is very cleaver in the way he does things he is able to spread fear doubt pain and chaos with in gods house but not for long and we should always remember the scriptures and push forward well knowing Jehovah’s promise.

              Psalm 37:10

              10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there.

              1 Peter 5:8

              8 Keep your senses, be watchful! Your adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone.

              2 Corinthians 11:23-27

              23 Are they ministers of Christ? I reply like a madman, I am more outstandingly one: I have done more work, been imprisoned more often, suffered countless beatings, and experienced many near-deaths. 24 Five times I received 40 strokes less one from the Jews, 25 three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I experienced shipwreck, a night and a day I have spent in the open sea; 26 in journeys often, in dangers from rivers, in dangers from robbers, in dangers from my own people, in dangers from the nations, in dangers in the city, in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers among false brothers, 27 in labor and toil, in sleepless nights often, in hunger and thirst, frequently without food, in cold and lacking clothing.

              Romans 1:17

              17 For in it God’s righteousness is being revealed by faith and for faith, just as it is written: “But the righteous one will live by reason of faith.”

            • Thinking

              That was beautifully explained brother..and very encouraging..

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Leonard K, that is a powerful argument you put forward there. I will be taking on board some of the points you brilliantly brought out and seriously give it some thought as I like to weigh up all the pros and cons.

            • Volcanic

              you are wise, Leonard, very wise! Yes, I perfectly understand & having braved the ‘lions den’ today I will be going back, even if only for the public talk. I had coffee with a dear sister after & she was telling how her savings had to last until the new system is in place. I casually put in “well, at a minimum of 3 1/2 years then”, she looked at me with a puzzled face & never asked me what I meant…….it broke my heart!

              I so wanted to be able to tell her about this site, she has been my only real witness friend since 2002 & I love her dearly & desperately want to be able to say something to catch her attention, she is such a strong witness.

            • some how I think you will get that opportunity. we remain faithful and trust in Jehovah all things will be possible brother.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Sister Annie.

            • I do not think it is by coincidence that all of us has found Brother King and the Ewatchman.com I mean look at the whole picture here we have found plenty of spiritual food with room to grow and progress we now know about the operation of error we know now about the man of lawlessness we have been lost confused stumbled by the watchtower and we prayed and asked Jehovah for answers we prayed for Guidance and not only does he hear our prayes and give us answers and strength but he sets the way through all the lies and confusion by the man of lawlessness and once again Jehovah delivers his sheep but Jehovah does expect something from us he expects us to use the light he has blessed us with and to share it with as many as possible but as specialy with our brothers and sisters being mislead by the watchtower. theres an old saying charity starts at home so if possible lets pray to overcome obsticals that stand in our way and do everything we possibly can to reach our spiritual brothers and sisters. and no it is not by coincidence that we have found brother king and the ewatchman no it is clear to me that Jehovah has work for us all to do and he has blessed us with the tools that we need and now we need to make sure of the more important things and spread the truth about the truth. as I have said before I know many of you are in your own kind of situation and many baptized JWS are of being DFSPED but you must remember it is for a reason that you have learned what you have learned here on the ewatchman and we just expect the truth for our selvs and not try our best to share that truth what good will it do for others? are we simply to say thank you Jehovah for all that you have given us and be content with that?. we should do everything within our power by prayer and supplication to reach our spiritual brothers and sisters . trust in your faith that Jehovah will carry you through and help you to accomplish good works trust in Jehovah to remove any and all stumbing blocks if you fully trust in Jehovah then just emagine how many you very well may reach.

              Isaiah 26:4

              4 Trust in Jehovah forever, For Jah Jehovah is the eternal Rock.

              Psalm 115:11

              11 You who fear Jehovah, trust in Jehovah —He is their help and their shield.

              Psalm 37:3

              3 Trust in Jehovah and do what is good; Reside in the earth, and act with faithfulness.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Sister Thinking, just wanted to tell you of my plans about going back to the Kingdom Hall as I think it’s only right that I tell you as you encouraged me to do that. I didn’t want to make an announcement like this as but it’s the only way to let you know. I hate fuss…I like to be in the background and just quietly get on with things. I read what Perimeno had to say on the matter as he’s a big advocate of lost sheep making their way back into the fold…from his writings which is vast, he comes across as a very gentle and spiritual witness….I like that and his points were valid also to all the ones on this site who put forward some amazing points backed up with brilliant scriptures i.e Jude which was helpful to me. So once again thank you Sister Thinking for your warm and loving words.

            • Thinking

              Oh sis I’m so happy for you…wow I’m jumping up and down..lol…it will be hard Beverly but when you feel ready to give out he will rescue you…Jehovah doesn’t want ones that give out he wants ones with endurance and you are doing just that…we are all like those 300 soldiers that he picked out to go to war….the ones that sipped from the river but kept looking around them to make sure there was no danger….I have no doubt that Jehovah will use you sis…I think it may have already started.
              As I had one dear sister say to me when hearing the news of Russia and the laws layed down to all religions except the Othodox faith…she said.’.but isn’t BTG suppose to fall first, it looks like we are’……I didn’t lay it all out..but just reminded her of 1Peter 4:17.. The judgement will start with the house of God’,,,,,and said..I wonder if that has something to do with it….

              Most cannot take what we know…so sis..just be there for them…Jehovah has refined all of us for a purpose hey…so he must want to use you..there is a reason behind all of this..
              You have encouraged me no end Beverly….I really mean that!!!!
              Also Joe has my email if you want to use that…it will be nice to talk and to see how you are going ….
              Thank you once again for making my day..
              Biggest warmest hug ever
              Sis thinking

            • Darren Wilks

              Hi Sis Thinking, I just wanted to thank you for being so encouraging. Also your name “Thinking” reminds me of a latin saying by Rene Descarte~ Cognito Ergo Sum. “I think therefore I am” is how its normally translated in English. A fuller form Descarte’s philosophy was dubito, ergo cogito, ergo sum (“I doubt, therefore I think, therefore I am” which aptly captures Descartes’ intent. Anyway, with Jehovah’s name being a form of I Am.. I think its interesting that “thinking” will invevitably lead us to Jehovah! So keep thinking Sister!

            • Thinking

              Hi Darren, ..No it’s you I should thank..as it is so encouraging for me to hear what you have done with your son..how did it go?…it is very hard isn’t it..but believe me…you will be blessed someway for taking this stand and showing your faith in Jehovah…not the org…but Jehovah…he will correct everything in his time….you have a huge responsibility with your boy…but at least you can bring him up under a lighter yoke of Jesus…now you understand things better….all the best Darren..let us know how it goes…and thank you for your post..it was ever so nice of you xx
              Sis thinking

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Darren, how is life treating you? Not heard from you of late…

            • Darren Wilks

              Hi Burt. Thanks for checking on me. I’m praying and reading Brother King’s site daily still. I feel like I’m being weighed down by distractions and things that are not important. I’m encouraged by reading this site daily still and seeing all of the comments of all of you. I pray that Jehovah cause us to become what he wants for us.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Darren, it is not difficult to be weighed down with the unimportant. I think I spent a large part of my life doing unimportant things, but sometimes, the unimportant is what life is all about and as you get older, the unimportant suddenly takes on a lot of meaning. Besides which, your family photos show a family man spending loads of time with a Lovely energetic son, and what could be more important than that! This site is a watering hole, not a prison camp or place of devotion. Jehovah is found in the seemingly unimportant things, like a touch or walk in the country, or in buying a skid row resident a McDonald’s while out shopping , an inward thing that dwells within and that makes you and yours what you all are, like us, walking down roads we know not where.

            • Brother Burt , your truly a blessing to this site and the comments section. Wise and wonderful!!

            • No worries brother Darren, how could you not be distracted. My goodness you live in paradise ? continue what you are doing. Taking in spiritual food, prayer & enjoying paradise with your son!!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya a Sister Thinking, aww, thank you for those encouraging words. Well, I’m back on the narrow road jostling for my position…a bit like you see with the long distance runners when they’re jostling for position because they want to win! That elder you mentioned to me was right when he said none of us would have an easy time of it on the narrow road…so true. Actually I’m looking forward to getting back to my routine of attending meetings like I used to do….I’m very ocd so feel unsettled if I don’t have routine and having everything ready and prepared. Also Hannah prepped me about trying not to say too much as I might alienate myself. So, I can’t steam in there all gung ho looking for tables to flip! Lol. From time to time I’ll keep you updated. Thank you once again for being there for me without judgement.

              Biggest warmest hug back to you. X

            • Totally in the same boat as you with my faith and the going back dilemma, sending you my love and support.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Joseph, no way are you having the same dilemma!! In my eyes you’re a giant of a spiritual witness! I can’t begin to tell you how much I’ve learned from some of your posts…as well you providing some of the best humour ( Jumbo Gumbo..classic,lol) and you treat everyone the same here on this site as well as always asking after anyone who might’ve disappeared…and when you called Joe DMan, Joe Joe…,so brotherly and warm. My workmate who knows about my association with EWatchman now asks me about everyone here on this site and talks about everyone like he knows them in person…it makes me laugh. Today at work, he’s installing a bible app on my phone because I told him Bkly Kevin told me about the bible hub and how easy it is to find any scripture quickly…we checked it out the other day and he was was reading scriptures to me that I’d mentioned…it’s a lovely thing to see a person who was oblivious about God now quoting scripture. I hear the same mantra about how when everything starts to unravel if you’re going to the Kingdom Hall how you’ll be able to help witnesses…and yes that’s very noble and human but how?? I’m not getting it!! Prayed last night about my problem and asked Jehovah God to direct me but I think he already know that deep down I don’t really want to go back…I haven’t left him…just the temple that’s soon to be swept away. But for now I’m open to be directed and just go with the flow and see where I land!

            • Good morning Beverly,
              Yes it’s the going back part that I find to be the biggest hurdle. For the past few years I’ve become that person, you know the one that only makes an appearance at the Memorial ! Then slips away into the night..
              After all I’ve been though coupled with the knowledge we have all had the privilege to learn here (Praise Jehovah) I find it extremely extremely extremely difficult to attend the meetings. The weeds get to me I just want to have that Jesus moment and start flipping tables. And sometimes the stuff they burp out on stage makes me want to head for the door. My whole spiritual journey has been a rough one, just trying to find my place and like you (though Jehovah) Roberts knowledge has finally given me peace. Thanks for the compliment, I try to live a Christian life, love learning about Jehovah & helping others! I credit my mother for these qualities!! I know Jehovah is training us lost sheep up for a very important future assignment. I think it was dear sister Thinking that said we have to look past the weeds to see the wheat in the congregation. I’ll work on this…

              Much love
              Joseph

            • When the time arrives for the master Christ Jesus to settle accounts with the appointed shepherds of God’s household, his faithful followers who had endured the time of trouble leading up to his coming (and no doubt made worse by the oppressive shepherds among them) will finally come to understand their precious relationship with Jehovah in all its beauty. They will come to see how the Scriptures were written for their instruction and encouragement, and that Jehovah had appointed shepherds for their benefit and care, and not for the glory of the shepherds themselves, some of whom just could not wait for their time of glory in the heavenly kingdom when they would get to sit next to their master, for “they loved the glory of men more than even the glory of God.” (Rom. 15:4; Dan. 7:18,27; John 12:43; Rev. 20:6)

              All of God’s anointed shepherds should take notice of Jehovah’s message addressed to them in the book of Ezekiel, the entire 34th chapter, for his accounting with them is fast approaching, “in the day of clouds and thick gloom,” (vs. 12) which the New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures with References applies to the time Zephaniah also speaks of: Jehovah’s day of fury, a day of distress and anguish, of storm and desolation, of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick gloom at Armageddon, through which the great crowd of faithful worshipers will be protected. (Zeph. 1:15)

            • Beverly kenyon

              Morning Joseph, I can’t stop laughing at you being a table flipper…so funny and so human!! Yeah, I’m the same. Go to the memorial but this year I went to the follow up talk they do andirons you asked me what it was about…well I haven’t a clue. I sat with the witness that I studied with and he show me a picture of an angel directing the work and I though..lovely but Alec that’s the elementary things…move on with real bible knowledge… and this person is a longtime elder and an intelligent person. It was all I could do to contain myself!! And like you I have a real problem with the weeds. Being serpent and dove like isn’t in my personality. I don’t dilly dally…I get straight to the point but try not hurt someone’s feeling intentionally. Sister Thinking did say those words about looking past the weeds but when it’s in your face it’s such a difficult thing to do. Joseph, your Mum did an amazing job with raising her boys in the truth…I so respect women like that. You’re all a credit to her. Once again Joseph, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the dilemma we’re wrestling with…sharing is caring as they say. Thanks. Much love to you and your family.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Table flipping? Is this a new Olympic sport or just a temple banking euphemism?

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Burt, well if it was a new Olympic sport, Joseph would get a gold! Lol. And if Volcanic didn’t erupt today then she’d get a silver!

            • Thinking

              My very dear brother Joeseph..I wish I was in your cong and you could sit next to me..?..a CO once said our elders were like a mob of Natzis…that’s what I went back into….but one day I sat at the back which I always do..and looked at every brother and sister there…and realized there was more wheat there than Natzis..haha…but I had become disconnected from them because of my inactivity and bitterness….I have now become connected….but five years now have passed and we have all new elders..young ones too..kind ones…yet still I trust nobody ..but I love them and am so happy I followed Jehovahs direction and went back…
              I had to get my feet wet first….then he helped me..but it was still very very hard….now it’s not.
              You won’t be the same brother that left…but that’s good isn’t it..don’t let those weeds strangle you out….Jehovah needs ones like you in the cong …he has a work for us to do…we need to strenghten ones that won’t worship the golden calf….they will be very confused ..so what better place to be..
              Big hug
              Sis thinking

            • I would LOVE to sit next to you, you would so help me look past the weeds! Thanks you for your thoughts and encouragement. With prayer and confidence, I’ll find my way home. ?
              Sending you my ❤

            • Thinking

              Yes Joesph..it is our home isn’t it..we just got pushed out because we didn’t understand..but now we do..so I’ll keep the seat warm hey..
              Biggest of hugs
              Sis thinking

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              Can I sit with y’all too?!

            • Thinking

              More the merrier..and I think there is more in the halls,that know at least a bit of what we do…??

            • Thinking

              Haha…now ya talking..lol…

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              Don’t focus on the temple….focus on the hypnotized sheep inside. Perhaps all of ours presence will spark curiosity, a conversation, and an awakening. That’s how I do it….but believe me, I don’t always enjoy it! It’s like going to a smoky bar….but at least now I have a place (here!!) where I can go and get some oxygen.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Alexandra, you’re so right about the sheep being hypnotized….and it does make sense being on the inside, getting a few words in here and there when it’s appropriate. Thank you for the moral support…it all helps.

            • Sam

              The way i see it is when the true presence of Christ occurs… our brothers will be speculating left and right. They are always speaking among themselves about how they are taught things will play out…(especially after the recent conv and the bunker vids) but the reality will be the exact opposite of what they’re told.

              There will be chaos among them. That’s when we’ll be able help explain whats happening… of course we will be thrown out and persecuted for doing so. Perhaps it’s presumptuous for us to think we can help, but If it was me in their situation, i’d want someone with insight their with us. But i know it’s not as simple as that for everyone

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hey Sam, did you hear that sound? That’s the sound of the final nail being driven in on whether I should make my way back to the Kingdon Hall…looks like it’s a done deal now. I’d better start hauling out my Kingdom Hall clothes as my daily uniform consists of tops and pants (trousers) or jeans. You’ve helped me to visualise how knowing what we know about how it’s all going to unravel and then be able to explain what’s happening and then we get chucked out for doing just that…bit ungrateful if you ask me,lol, but, that’s how it will happen to fulfil prophecy. You can almost hear them asking, WHAT is going on??!! There will be feelings of fear, abandonment, anger, helplessness and bewilderment and a sense of no direction, so you’re right Sam, they will want it explaining. Btw, how did your talk go? Hope it wasn’t too stressful and it all went smoothly.

            • Sam

              Thats awesome Beverly! You’re so right, and you will be a valuable sister shouting that trumpet when it all kicks off! *hugs* it went well as far as i can tell. lol Many told me how they enjoyed it… decided to deal with the whole 1914 thing by laying down how the reasoning book emphasizes how all components of the sign have to be in existence at the SAME time in one generation and then mentioned how the WT makes the claim that they have been “developing” since 1914. So hopefully i made the contradiction apparent while not actually saying it lol Thankful for everyones advice. And now you have a great excuse to go out and treat yourself to some new clothes! 😀

            • Beverly kenyon

              Sorry about that Sam, had my sister on the phone going on about getting sky and saying how she went to church this morning (made me feel guilty), and then straight into the pub!! Very spiritual! Unbelievable! Well, she does live in Ashton and they all have hollow legs when it comes to drinking! The people of that church are obviously getting spirit of another kind! Well that was a twist in your talk! Ha! You didn’t compromise and kept your integrity and covertly got your point in. Do you wear a trench coat and a hat pulled down? Because it’s like you’re having to be a double agent! Lol. The witnesses in your Kingdom Hall won’t be forgetting your talk in a hurry! Read Volcanic’s post about how it went well for her today at her Kingdom Hall…so happy for her.But what I found so sweet of her was that the anointed witness that she studied with was late so she didn’t get to speak with her and Volcanic said how she would FB her later, which I thought was so forgiving and loving of her to do especially how she was treated by that lady. I so love Volcanic….she’s a lovely lady….but I’m also jealous of her as she’s good at maths! I’ve always wanted to be good at maths but I’m hopeless…not fair! Don’t know what I’m good at…I’m a jack of all trades but a master of none! Lol.

            • Sam

              I don’t think their are many places in Britain where everyone isn’t spillng alcohol out their ears lol Yeah i’m so glad it went well for her! Typical of that one elder to have ignored her… but she is focused on the real picture. Oh and don’t worry, my maths was so bad i didn’t even bother collecting my grades lol!

            • Song of Hannah

              Aw, Bev so happy we’ll have another one of us braving the front battle lines! Love the trench coat / hat, just add some dark glasses and your all set! Haha. But on a serious note, one thing I want to share, that I’ve learned from Robert, and in my own dealings being in the congregations here, is that it is Jehovah’s will that the vast majority of his people not see what is coming. So nothing, absolutely nothing you do or say will get through to them. Any attempt will only work to alienate yourself from them. So really, right now, our only job, and the only thing we can do, is to love them, and draw close to them, so that we can gain their trust and friendship, and thus have freeness of speech when the time comes. Knowing this has helped give me peace, and made it easier to get a handle on my tongue. (Which often gets the better of me! ?)

            • Beverly kenyon

              Wow, Song of Hannah, Jehovah must know it’s playing on my mind about going back and what I’m going to say about why I have…because I will be asked that question and I already had my script ready. I’m bobbins at biting my tongue so I planned to say my witness friends on a site suggested the idea to me and if they persisted in their questions I was going to tell them about EWatchman! But reading your sensible advice and taking it on board I won’t do what I planned. Don’t want to get myself a bad name as soon as I get there! You know what Hannah, all this is a learning curve for me given that I tend to just steam into things head on and then I’m full of remorse and regrets. I’m just going to enjoy listening to what they will be talking about from the bible and being with the witnesses and getting to know some of them as the Kingdom Hall I’ll be attending is very diverse as oppose to when I used to go there was only an Asian girl who had to hide from her family because they wanted to do her harm for becoming a witness, Two black brothers and me…I’m mixed race…Portuguese father and African Carribean mother who is from Guyana, South America so it’s something to look forward to and way overdue! Thanks again Hannah for your support…that means a lot now I’ve got to post Sister thinking and tell her my plans…as it’s the right thing to do as she suggested it and I shot her down in flames, but she was right all along.

            • Volcanic

              yesssssss 🙂

            • Beverly kenyon

              Wow, Volcanic, is that you in that picture…the vision in lemon?! Lol. You’re gorgeous like Daisy! Well, the new and improved you made it through the meeting yesterday….that was good to hear. I’m next! Lol. Apart from that elder giving you the side eye…there’s always one to bring you down…you were warmly welcomed back by those two sisters. We were all rooting for you Volcanic and I loved that post Joseph sent you..my heart swells with affection for that guy. Now you just got to keep up the momentum but I bet you feel good with yourself knowing that you’re doing what you have to do as a witness for Jehovah, because everything we do is for his glory and to bring him glory. Don’t know if you’ve heard from Daisy but she’s MIA…hope she’s doing alright and has not had a relapse.

            • Daisy

              I’m lurking lol. What with the cancer diet, the apricot kernals, the aspirin, the antibiotics, the chlorella in v8 juice, the medicinal marijuana, bicarbonate of soda & molasses, the washing, ironing, cooking and cleaning dog walking……help!
              I’m exhausted hahaha
              I so don’t want chemotherapy & radiotherapy so I’m googling cancer info every time get tired & need my bed, my favourite place.
              You’ll absolutely love the meetings, they’re like a teddy bears picnic. Enjoy every minute. X

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Daisy, was worried about you…glad it was only lurking and not MIA! Me too…my bed is my most favourite place to be…absolute bliss, and I don’t even use a lion as a pillow unlike Burt, if he makes it through he’s going to use a lion as a pillow and a bear to cuddle up to. Lol. Poor bear and lion walking along minding their own business and along comes Burt…..Blimey Daisy, your work load sound heavy but I like some of your diet…some of it sound delish…don’t work yourself into the ground, you are still recovering from your ops….pace yourself. So good to hear from you. Xx

            • Good day everyone! Important message…..
              Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Joseph, Thank you for the post informing us about Daisy. All yesterday and just before I went to sleep last night Daisy kept popping into my head…just kept thinking of her on and off and now I know why….that poor lady is going through the mill! I was also concerned when she mentioned in a post to Burt the other day that she wasn’t feeling good….I got the impression it was physical and mental, because being ill for a while, depression can set in. Hope she bounces back soon…very concerned.

            • Good morning Beverly, Yeah she had a tuff go last night and a scare. She is truly frightened. If you or anyone else would like to send your Love and support privately. You can get her email from Joe Dman @ dmaninspection@gmail.com

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Thanks Joseph. I will email Joe now. Thanks for the update.

            • Joseph, are you doing okay my brother? Haven’t heard from you in a while, just hoping that you are doing well. Hang in there for your deliverance is getting near!

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Joseph, thanks for asking about me, your concern is very much appreciated. Yeah I’m doing okay, surviving as they say. We all will be delivered very soon, by Jehovah’s great love for all of those who truly love him. How are you doing Joseph? Hope all is well with you and your loved ones. Agape Joseph.

            • Hello Joseph, hopefully life has been good to you lately down there in Australia, spring is in the air!! Miss your two cents on things.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Joseph, how are you? I’m just sitting down at work, reading everyone’s comments. Yes spring has begun and the sun is coming out. Too be honest, I don’t think life, can ever be good as long as Satan is ruling this world. I look forward too the day, when our relief comes for all of those of truly love Jehovah and Jesus. I just read your comment about Americans being 99.9 per cent clueless. I have been told by relatives of mine living in the USA, that if Trump gets elected, everything will return to normal and America will be great once again. I don’t know much about the american media, but i’m guessing it’s doing a great job in decieving the American population.

            • Annie

              great to see you back, Joe, we have missed you. Don’t be a stranger.

            • Joe the cosmologist

              Hi Annie, I haven’t gone anywere, I read the comments and posts everyday, I’m always with all of you. Hope your doing well? How’s your daughter and the little one doing? Take care Annie, stay strong and keep well.

            • Joe the cosmologist
            • This definitely sums up the state of America, it’s going to be ugly when the SHTF. Plus let’s not forget almost everyone is armed ?

            • Sam

              I’m pressed for time before I leave the house, so if someone would kindly pass on my well wishes to Patrica I would really appreciate it. Our sister really is a soldier!

            • Beverly kenyon

              Sorry Joseph, I really am technology illiterate…I know it’s pathetic….but I don’t do emails even though I have an email address…I don’t bother with it….just happy with the little bit of tech I do because my life is so jam packed busy which I hate so will post Daisy. Feel so sad knowing she feels frightened, hope her family is rallying round her and just being there to reassure her.

            • No worries, I’ll email her your love and kindness ❤

            • Beverly kenyon

              Thanks Joseph. I’ve sent out a post to her on this site just hope she’s up to jumping on EWatchman and reading any new posts. Also Sam was pushed for time and it sounded like he was heading out the door so wanted to send Daisy all his love, care and concern and to tell her she’s a true soldier…and that’s right because that lady HAS been soldiering on regardless of how she must’ve been really feeling…that’s why it’s not good to put on a brave face and to keep it all in…sharing is caring. Thanks again Joseph…you’re like the official PA and liaison officer here but you do it with a big heart and much affection.

            • Your very welcome, I just finished emailing her everybody’s love & support and prayers. Let’s hope she has a good day and received good news from the doctor. ❤

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Joseph , would you be so kind as to pass on my support to Daisy as well. My wife and I share our email address and she would naturally get upset if she knew I was emailing others. She has never been a witness and the concept of agape is alien to her. We are very close. Thanks.

            • Total understand brother Burt, consider it Done. ?

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Daisy, I’ve heard you’re having a bad time of it and was sad to hear it. If I could drive on the motorway…which I don’t do because I’m scared, I only drive to town, I would be there in person to help comfort and reassure you but in the meantime all I can do is offer words of comfort. You know everyone here in our digital congregation here on EWatchman is sending you much love and the biggest, closest hugs ever and thinking of you. We’re rooting for you Daisy so you gotta to hang on in there. Also Burt won’t have anyone to trade banter with!! Also I know for a fact you will be drawing even closer to Jehovah who is our God of comfort and an amateur like me don’t have to tell you that! Sending you lots of love. Xx

            • Volcanic

              it’s an oldish photo, Manc, I’m actually far more gorgeous now!! I decided that I’m not hiding anymore, if they want me they will know where to find me now.
              Yep, it felt good & right, so I will be keeping it up, Sunday meetings only as can’t get to the Wed one because I have baby to put to bed, my daughter works late in the week.
              The elder giving me the side eye is German & very strict……well, what do you expect, the Germans bombed our chip shops in the last war! LOL

              The best bit was being a part of the prayer to Jehovah & singing to Him (although I did notice a few rotten tomatoes descending from up above when I started singing)

              I had an e-mail from darling Daisy, but you’ve had a reply here, so you know she is still around. Bless her, she is so sweet & lovely, I hate to hear of her suffering.
              I am so very happy to hear that you are going back, Beverly, just sooooo happy.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Well a Volcanic, you must be more stunning now because you’re gorgeous in that photo! Both you and Daisy are very photogenic. Can’t stop laughing at at the Germans bombing our chip shops…so funny. So glad you got through it…at least that particular meeting was livened up with you making your appearance. Yeah, Daisy posted me and gave an update on how she was doing in her recovery…just hope she’s not over doing things…she doesn’t need a set back. You’re right, Daisy is lovely and sweet and can be incredibly funny with that sharp wit of hers…she might be in her seventies but you would think a twenty five year old was writing her posts…that’s how she comes across. You done well volcanic, really proud of you! You go Gurrl!

            • Daisy

              Put up your hand if you think you’re perfect. Of course, we all did lol…just kidding. No we can’t said the speaker, because nobody here is perfect. He then told of fall outs & hurts between individuals leading to ones moving to a different kh or falling away completely from Jehovah’s organisation. He spoke of Peter, how Jesus rebuked him but knowing that love motivated him.
              How Peter denied him three times through fear. Peter also wrote a lot about love in the bible, then the speaker mentioned 1john4:10 “The love is in this respect, not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son, as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins.” I didn’t take notes so its the only verse I remember. But for me the overall message was saying we are all imperfect but we can’t see our own imperfection when dealing with our brothers…only theirs.
              The I felt unwell halfway through the wt study & left just as well as it was flagging a bit, long pauses from question until answer but I managed to mention how the minor prophets all dovetail with Daniel & revelation in these end times. I didn’t want to leave before the closing prayer & wept in my car but I had to get home.

            • So sorry you didn’t feel good Sunday at the meeting. Maybe just try the public talk for now until you get your strength back. Jehovah understands, you’ve been through a lot. Get yourself back to 100% with plenty of rest & some super food green smoothies ! Don’t push yourself to hard, and that’s an order! ❤??

            • Song of Hannah

              I agree, it is soooo hard going back. We were able to do it by moving to another congregation, thank goodness – as the evil uncovered within our previous congregation was just too much to humanly bear.

              It’s still very hard – my husband and I are in the process of healing. Roberts encouragement greatly helped us to even bother trying it anew in another congregation. But I have also found great encouragement in the letter that Jude wrote us. He very accurately described the struggle we would be having with wicked weeds right within our midst, along with reassurance that Jehovah would indeed bring judgement upon them.

              But what has impelled me the most, is the specific instructions Jude gave us on what we should do – and it totally agrees with what Robert has encouraged us to do. In the past I always thought (or was taught) that these instructions applied to the Elders – but now I understand, Jude wrote it to us. It has helped me trudge through my emotions and keep going…

              Jude 3 Beloved ones, although I was making every effort to write you about the salvation we hold in common, I found it necessary to write you to urge you to put up a hard fight for the faith that was once for all time delivered to the holy ones. 4 My reason is that certain men have slipped in among you who were long ago appointed to this judgment by the Scriptures; they are ungodly men who turn the undeserved kindness of our God into an excuse for brazen conduct and who prove false to our only owner and Lord, Jesus Christ.

              Jude 5 Although you are fully aware of all of this, I want to remind you that Jehovah, having saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those not showing faith.

              Jude 12 These are the rocks hidden below water at your love feasts while they feast with you, shepherds who feed themselves without fear; waterless clouds carried here and there by the wind; fruitless trees in late autumn, having died twice and having been uprooted;

              Jude 20 But you, beloved ones, build yourselves up on your most holy faith, and pray with holy spirit, 21 in order to keep yourselves in God’s love, while you await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. 22 Also, continue showing mercy to some who have doubts; 23 save them by snatching them out of the fire. But continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while you hate even the garment that has been stained by the flesh.

            • Thinking

              You are very balanced Song of Hannah..your words are very comforting

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Hannah, it was only yesterday I was talking about you to my workmate who always asks after everyone on EWatchman and I told him you’ve been offline for a while now and I didn’t know what was happening with you. He knows about you as I’ve told him how you back up any point you make with just the right scripture in the most precise way. I told him if you weren’t a female you would definitely be an elder in some congregation and I truly mean that because that’s the vibe I get from you. I read Joseph’s post yesterday, read Leonard K’s, read the points Volcanic made and Sam and also Daisey’s post about going to the Kingdom Hall and your brilliant argument/post citing Jude which has always been one of my favourite books and it’s now all totally in my head and I will be mulling everything over. Recently I’ve been praying to Jehovah about being pointed in the right direction but at the same time feeling sad about it….meaning if back to the Kingdon hall I’m being led then I’ll just have to go….kicking and screaming and digging my heels, lol….a bit like Jonah…I don’t really want to, but I’ll have to. Thank you Hannah for taking time out and posting me that encouragement…I really appreciate it.

            • Song of Hannah

              Aw thanks Bev, your posts have been of great encouragement to me too. Your love and faith amidst all your tribulation is especially faith strengthening to me.
              A lot of trepidation in heading to the meeting today… Praying that Jehovah help me keep my mouth shut and just listen. Praying he will lead us to the ones who are just hanging on, that we might help them the way Robert and all of you have encouraged and helped us. And of course Jude. ?

            • Beverly kenyon

              That’s no problem Hannah. You’ve helped me as well with your knowledge of scriptures and how you clearly get the message across…I’ve copied out two of your posts in case I have to use them in the future if I talk to a witness or a person I might be witnessing to as I’m not shy about talking about my religion to whoever but I also try not to come across as a religious crank as that can put someone off from engaging….especially that post of yours where you brought out about the good news being preached by both righteous and unrighteous….I think it was based on Phil1:15,17 and then you clinched it by saying how smart and clever of Jehovah to use the unrighteous to preach the good news. You also mentioned how you’re coping with ill health so it’s heartwarming to see you keep going and how you didn’t let your bad treatment at your old Kingdom Hall hold you back. It must be so hard to bite your tongue when you’re at the meetings…thank goodness you have your husband at your side. We do owe Brother King and everyone here on this site a lot…there’s always someone quick to offer words of encouragement and support. We’re very fortunate.

            • Volcanic

              why not use Hillary Clinton as your example of religion being turned on, she has a video saying that Christianity will be the first to go when she is president. I know it isn’t 1914 but it gets you over an awkward moment maybe, you can slide away from 1914 quite sweetly by using her as an example & then maybe bring in the fact that the pope is welcoming muslims into the church & suggesting that there should be only one world religion.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Did she? I had no idea! Well if Hilary Clinton says Christianity is going when she is president then we can believe her…..she’s a politician and they always tell the truth. I think I prefer the popes compromise about amalgamating with the Muslims. I wonder if they will call themselves Catholims or Muslocaths? I think I’ll just stick with Roboking.

            • Daisy

              I think everyone here is good with words Beverley xx

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya Daisy, I like your new moniker! Or is that a middle name? Yeah, everyone here on this site is good with words…you’re right about that. But Burt is a true wordsmith! That man has a real way with words! I happen to say to Sam that he was good with words (which he is), because I was talking directly to him and no one else. Didn’t mean for it to appear like no one else mattered….not that I’m a critic, lol. Personally, I struggle with words and trying to get my point across as coherently and grammatically correct as possible. I tend to write as I talk…like a proper Manc!!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Sam, I appreciate your situation and you have to play it from your knowledge of the situation, but, you might consider saying…’some may feel confused that 1914 has come but the signs are not all extant at this time! Why is that? …… It will probably give you an excellent opportunity to witness after the meeting, but probably not in the way hoped!

            • Sam

              Hi Burt. I think you’re right about the reception it would get

            • Burt Reynolds

              How did your talk go Sam?

            • Sam

              It seemed to go well, thanks Burt. As far as the 1914 thing, I laid it out that the WT admits that all aspects of the sign need to be present together in one generation… then quoted the wt saying the sign has been “‘developing’ since 1914” … so I just put out that contradiction and left it in the air for those paying attention to pick up on or perhaps recall. Of course, as for now everyone is blissfully asleep. One brother was telling me how convinced he is that we are in the last days because of what’s going on in the world. It seems to me that many bros are slowly leaving 1914 and having recent events of the past decade be their proof…maybe then when the real presence occurs it will be easier for them to accept if they are not ridgedly attached to 1914. Another interesting conversation, a sister was told by another sister that the new headquarters project was a waste of money since it will go down with the rest of the system, to which this other sister responds that the hq will survive untouched and may well serve as the “new world hq” and speculated that we will receive monthly broadcasts lol. Once again putting the org idol in the highest place possible. Anyway Burt, I hope you are well 🙂

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Sam, yes I seem to be well! Thanks. Just motoring along and fixing up my workshop ready to refit my retirement house I have just purchased. Some of the brothers seem so deluded. It is not as if this site is so different in terms of purpose, yet they seem not able to question or worse, not know that there is a question to ask. I’m glad you found a balance for your talk. It cannot be easy, though it must be far more difficult not to shake one or two brothers by the throat!

          • Volcanic

            you are da Man, Joe 🙂 Thanks for passing on my e-mail to Patri/Daisy. I have the whole weekend free now, baby is going for a sleepover with her other grandmother tomorrow so I am able to spend more time on here & reading Roberts book………….yeah for me 🙂

      • Volcanic

        Not stopped, Joe, I’m here, but to be quite honest I just couldn’t comment on this post because it disgusts me almost to the point of really, really bad language! I detest what these pedophiles are doing & getting away with & the fact that it is known & covered up makes it 100 times worse. This is one of the main reasons I started to question the GB & started trying to find the absolute truth when I was thrown into this site (so I suppose it had its uses!)

        I think having lost 4 babies in miscarriage, having only one daughter by emergency c-section & nearly dying from it, then having a precious granddaughter makes it feel closer & woe betide anyone who touches my girls, I think I would have to break one of the commandments – thou shalt not kill!

        • Ignorant pompous fool

          Hi Annie, yeah I don’t understand why for the life of me why they would try to sweep it under the carpet, so too speak. What can they possibly be thinking, that the light won’t eventually shine on these dark matters, which have now been exposed for all too see. If the world has been exposed too it now and jehovahs name has been bought into disrepute, how do they envision Jehovah will deal with them? Are they thinking he will just turn a blind eye and pardon their errors? It’s one thing to sin and admit your error, but too sin and try to hide it from Jehovah is another thing. Do they not know that his eyes see everything that is being done in his name. It’s a terrible thing to fall into the hands of Jehovah especially when his name has been dragged through the mud.

          • Volcanic

            you said it, Bro! Scary enough to think of falling foul of Jehovah on a small thing, but I would hate to be witness to that anger!
            Missed ya, you’ve been a.w.o.l.

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Nah I have been here all the time. I daily read the watchmans post. I just don’t feel like commenting all the time. If you knew me personally, you would know why. My personality is very sporadic, I have no self esteem at all, but like I once said to joe d man, i’m also a clown at the same time who looks to joke around with people when i’m feeling good.

            • Volcanic

              well, Joseph, it’s feel good time for you now. My e-mail add is with Joe & you are welcome to use it, I am the original ‘earth mother’ type & I will try my best to support you, I can’t have my brothers feeling down & alone, if you can put up with a nearly old lady who will try to drag you into self esteem.

              The time for sad feelings may come to us all in the future but just now we have to try to feel good & support each other while we can, soon we might not be able to communicate, so let’s make it fun now so we have something to comfort us when times are rough.
              Hey, Jehovah brought us all to this site to be together, so let’s do just that & stay strong together 🙂

            • Ignorant pompous fool

              Amen to that.

        • LW

          I didn’t realize you went through that much personally, my heart goes out to you.

      • Ignorant pompous fool

        Hiya Joe my main man, how are you? Hope your doing well. This world can swallow you up so badly, that you constantly think your drowning and there is no way you can make it back to shore. All I want too do is work, so im never alone. Because once satan traps you in a corner were your all on your own he absolutely devours you like a lion, absolutely tears you to shreds. I just rely on Jehovah too help me through it all, because without him and christ, I am as good as dead. Can I email you?

        • Volcanic

          that is so sad, Joseph, I am leaving my e-add with Joe too, so you can ask him for it if you feel the need to talk, don’t ever feel alone, Joseph, we are all here for you, always.

          • Ignorant pompous fool

            Thanks Annie, It’s very heart warming to know you care. I have become used to it by now. Yeah the more friends the better, I would love to be in contact with as many people as possible. Not just to simply whinge and complain about my lot in life, but also to joke and have fellowship with one another. Build each other up as we approach the great day of Jehovah our god.

        • Burt Reynolds

          Hi Ignorant!

          • Ignorant pompous fool

            Hi Mr Burt Reynolds.

        • Daisy

          Hope Joe passes mine on to you Iggy!
          Joe is certainly Dman! What a godsend I’ve found communicating with him these few days. He’s been so naturally friendly, generous wit h his bible knowledge and upbuilding and supportive and with input from his wife I’d say oh what a beautiful couple.:)

          • Ignorant pompous fool

            Yes I hope he does too. Nice to meet you daisy by the way. You can call me Joseph. I hope to send you an email very soon. Agape.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Hello Daisy, Ive not heard from you of late, are you dong okay? The treatment will come to an end and you will start to feel better. Keep going. X

            • Daisy

              Hello there, yes….I’m dong dong ok!
              Treatment starts 16aug. No cure. Just treatment. Big pharma make big money that way. Been researching. Its Satan’s world ok.
              I don’t want to imagine anything about paradise, only that that evil one is dealt with by Christ. That’s all I need to know, that he won’t be anywhere near this beautiful planet nor humans…that’s my idea of paradise. Bluergh…..bit of a down day Burt. You pinged at the right moment, thank you. 🙂

            • Good day everyone! Important message…..
              Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Hello Daisy, I hope you are managing ok. You must be facing some problems and everyone here is praying for you and keeping you in their thoughts. You are not alone. Let me know if I can do something practical for you. Xx

            • Daisy

              When I get better I’m moving closer to you Burt, in a little village away from the coast & I’ll take you up on your offer. You could have driven me to hospital tomo as the voluntary drivers for patients wouldn’t sit waiting for me 3-4 hours. So its taxi there, train back. Im having thorough tests before chemo starts next Friday! If at all I’m hoping not.
              Sweetie Joseph heard about my night episode last night & thought of me, not that anyone can do without someone praying for them. My catholic friend says her whole rosary for me, fascinating, always Mary up front!
              And I’m surely grateful and proud to be with such a lovely bunch of jw’s, the like of which I’ve never met before…so thanks all for your loving Christ like support.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Daisy, make sure you arrange for support home after your treatment. Speak with the staff you see about after affects and take whatever treatment they offer you please. Love to you from us all.

            • Volcanic

              first you come to stay for an extended rest on my little island during the winter, Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer dooooo. I will find you an apartment where it is peaceful & far from the madding crowd & I insist on seeing you every day 🙂 Love you xxxxx

        • Joe Dman

          By all means. I didn’t catch this comment until just now. I found one the other day from a few days ago from someone else. I wonder how many I haven’t read yet. YOu did get my email right?

          • Ignorant pompous fool

            How can I recieve an email from you, if I never gave you my email. Can you confirm your email address?

            • Joe Dman

              I meant to say you did get my email ADDRESS right. I posted it earlier but here it is. dmaninspection@gmail

            • Volcanic

              . (dot)com that is 🙂 it works because Daisy mailed me, thank you sooooo much, Joe

  • LW

    Sometime last year before I discovered this site, I had a strange dream:

    I was in the left passenger seat of a car and then looked to the left out of the car window. There in front of me was a devastated city flattened into the ground and a huge gray mushroom cloud arising from the middle into the sky.

    The scene quickly changed to an interior one where there were several brothers and sisters gathered together talking among themselves. What did they say?

    “Did you hear, Brother and Sister So and so left the truth…”
    *Collective gasp
    “Did they say why they left?”
    “They said, it was because they had seen the light.”

    The dream ends….

  • Volcanic

    New direction for protecting minors from abuse. Letter is dated August 01 2016. https://drive.google.com/…/0BwqmWMK7dwtlLUc2S2tudWZsM…/view…

  • Volcanic

    New Child Abuse Letter.
    Watchtower issues a new letter to elders on how to handle accusations of sexual abuse against minors.

    https://www.the-newshub.com/general/jehovahs-witnesses-watchtower-new-child-abuse-letter
    There are a couple of interesting articles against the witnesses on this site (although far from accurate)

    • 1914for100Alex

      Sounds like business as usual.

    • Good day everyone! Important message…..
      Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

      • Volcanic

        oh nooo, I just e-mailed her quickly before I read your message, she is a bit confused about FB. I was very general in my e-mail although I asked about her health. I love that lady & I will pray all day for her, Jehovah will surely hear us. That has just ruined my day!!

  • LW

    Hey has anyone re read or in the process or re reading Jehovah himself has become King?

    The more I read the content inside, the more it feels like it will be a potential bombshell to those who read it and beyond…

  • Jehovah, our loving heavenly Father, is well aware of any tribulation we are experiencing at this time. Throughout the ages, his loyal worshipers have always been the subject of oppression and persecution. This should not surprise us when we realize that the persecution comes from Satan, who was also the source of Job’s affliction. (Matt. 5:11,12; Rev. 12:12, 17) Jehovah wants us to endure, and he tells us that he himself is distressed at seeing our affliction. (Isa. 63:9; Zech. 2:8) Since endurance is tied in with obedience, Jehovah is not making it unnecessarily difficult for us by saddling us with a heavy load, as the religious leaders had done in Jesus’ day. God is not hard to please! Jesus said that the “yoke is kindly and [the] load is light.” (Matt. 11:28-30; 23:4) If anyone today is chafing under what they feel is a heavy load, they should realize that this is not from Jehovah, and that there is no special merit in carrying a greater burden than that what God himself requires of us. —1 John 5:3.

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