Is God’s Will Being Done in Heaven and Earth?

//Is God’s Will Being Done in Heaven and Earth?

QUESTION: Concerning the model prayer, where Jesus said “Let your Kingdom come, let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.” So my question is, if Jehovah’s will is taking place in heaven would that not mean that Satan was cast down 2000 years ago? (Slightly edited) 

Keep in mind that our lifespan compared to God’s is virtually non-existent. The apostle Peter explained that one day to God is like a thousand years to us. And a thousand years to us is like one day to God. In other words, God is timeless —existing outside the bounds of time.

We know that God does not create anything wicked. His purpose for mankind was that Adam and Eve and all of their offspring should enjoy everlasting life in paradise — no sickness, no quarrels, no fighting, no death.

However, because God endowed all the creatures whom he made in his image with free will it is possible for anyone to act contrary to God’s will. And, of course, that is exactly what happened when first an angel struck out on his own as an opposer of God’s will, and who then successfully induced the only two humans in existence to follow him.

As far as we know none of God’s creatures had ever disobeyed Jehovah before, much less impugned his character. Jesus indicated as much when he said that Satan was the father of the lie. So, apparently no creature had ever lied before the Devil told Eve she would not die, which implies that God was a liar.

Try and use your imagination to visualize the shock other angels must have experienced then. Down here on planet earth lying is the norm. We live at the bottom of a sea of lies. Sadly, most people actually prefer to believe lies. But back a few thousand years ago that was not the case.

Because the Devil slandered God and brought into question whether God had any right to impose his will on everyone, or anyone for that matter, God’s purpose to have all creation in harmony took a backseat, so-to-speak. Instead, Jehovah decreed that enmity should exist between those who choose Satan and those who wish to be loyal to their Creator. Since the rebellion in Eden God is foremost intent on sanctifying his name and setting the stage for the Devil to go down into eternity in ignominy. The longterm well being and peace of the universe requires that the issues be settled conclusively.

To that end it is God’s will that those who love him be willing to suffer for the cause. The reason that is so is because Satan’s contention is that people will not be willing to suffer, much less die for God. That is why Isaiah 53:10 prophesied concerning Christ, saying of the Messiah: “But it was Jehovah’s will to crush him, and he let him become sick. If you will present his life as a guilt offering, He will see his offspring, he will prolong his days, and through him the delight of Jehovah will have success.”

Needless to say God did not personally crush his most beloved Son. Nor did he take pleasure in seeing Jesus tortured and subjected to an agonizing death. But it was Jehovah’s will that Satan be allowed to have his way with a  perfect man in order to allow the Devil to try to prove his contention that no man would sacrifice his life for God. And Jehovah was undoubtedly very pleased with the outcome, so much so that he has rewarded Jesus with eternal deathlessness and the very throne of his Kingdom. 

True, Satan had already tried and failed with the man Job, but Jesus was different. He was a favored son of God who could have snapped his finger and called down 12 legions of angels to save him. But he didn’t.

And, of course, unlike Job, Jesus knew what he was facing. He spoke repeatedly of his impending death on the torture stake. And on the night of his arrest, as Jesus literally sweat drops of blood due to his extreme anxiety, not in fear of suffering or death, but over his awareness that the name and reputation of the Father —not to mention the fate of the world, both living and dead —rested upon his shoulders, Jesus said, “let not my will, but yours take place.”

We may be inclined to think that God’s will shall only be done on earth as in heaven when the Kingdom finally reigns. But we should realize that God’s will has been accomplished all along, because it is God’s will that these issues be settled once and for all time. And although to us it seems that it has been a long, long time, from God’s perspective it has been less than a week since Satan challenged him. And that is why God has allowed Satan and the demons to remain in heaven all this time. 

Even now God’s will is being accomplished, in that, the good news of the Kingdom is being preached in all the languages. It is also God’s will that the deep things of his prophetic word be concealed for the time being —as if closely guarded secrets. That is because it is God’s will that ultimately those who call upon his name must follow in the footsteps of Jesus completely and demonstrate their willingness to suffer and endure the brunt of Satan’s persecution during a time of great confusion, after the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down from heaven. 

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2016-12-08T15:10:38+00:00 February 24th, 2016|Mailbag|31 Comments
  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    That’s fantastic and better than WTS explanation. The last 3 paragraphs are really good and to be appreciated. Thanks to e-watchman for your continued hard work.

    • Christian Obadiah

      I agree. This made me appreciate Jesus’ sacrifice even more.

      • Jonah Peter Paul

        Agree with you!

  • Jonah Peter Paul

    Brother you always have some great points that I have never read from the WT’s
    publications. Your articles have always been spiritually uplifting thank
    you! Specifically appreciated this part: “And on the night of his
    arrest, as Jesus literally sweat drops of blood due to his extreme
    anxiety, not in fear of suffering or death, but over his awareness that
    the name and reputation of the Father —not to mention the fate of the
    world, both living and dead —rested upon his shoulders, Jesus said, “let
    not my will, but yours take place.”- wow what a great point you made
    here brother! Agree with Christian Obadia here, this article helped us
    understand Jesus’ sacrifice better and give it deeper appreciation. I
    only wonder what would have happened to all of us if he failed? That is a
    frightening scenario. Thankfully he was brave and determined to be
    loyal to Jehovah until the very end!

  • Darren Wilks

    I really appreciate you sharing your insight brother. This is going to be such a scary time, but I pray Jehovah’s spirit be with you in abundance, now and during the brunt of Satan’s persecution! You have strengthened my faith so much brother. Thank you!

  • Wow , this is very insightful !!

  • thank you Robert I have a much better understanding now thank you for your insight great article! may Jehovah continue to be with you and bless all of your wonderful Endeavours.

  • Revv_zone@gmail.com Please8834

    Hello Robert.
    Question. If no sin had ever been committed up until Satan’s rebellion. How then can God reply with the words at Genesis 3:22 They have become like one of us knowing good and bad. If sin had not already taken place why would Jehovah say such thing??

    • Ed

      I asked same question many times to some of my bros and we discussed it .Based on same scripture 3:22.When Satan became Satan at paradise ? How Jehovah know was is bad did he had previous personal experience with any manifestation of “evil or badness ? Or he know this only in the frame of his own all wise awareness and wisdom ?
      Looking forward to hear Br.Robert input.

      • On this page, http://e-jw.org/index.php?threads/test.25/, there is a letter wrote in 1992 by a brother to the Society.
        It is about Genesis 3:1 and the theme is “Jehovah knew that Adam would sin”. I’m not saying that I agree with what has been wrote, and many things I did not even understood, but there are some interesting points that might be the beginning of a discussion.

        • Ed

          Thank you Baruq. I will read it and get back to you.

  • Ed

    Thank you as always Br.Robert for well versed opinion always appreciated!
    At the same time I would like to disagree with you with all respect on point if Jesus could felt fear at that moment when he was sweating blood.
    Why not ? it’s not a shame to be afraid and still prove to be faithful.
    He came on earth to experience and live full human experience with whole range of emotions fear included.I do not see any conflict or restriction why he could not feel at any moment of his life this particular emotion or similar.This wouldn’t disqualify him on it’s own same as any other unpleasant emotion which humans have and still to be a perfect man.We know from scriptures he felt tired for example.The bottom line is he prove to be loyal to his father and to his assignment-mission to the end whether he felt fear or not at the most intense moment of his life.

    • jacob

      I agree with you, Ed.

      “Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. LET US THEREFORE COME BOLDLY TO THE THRONE OF GRACE, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” Heb 4:14-16 2 John 1:3; Phil 1:25; 2 Tim 2:1

      In all points he was tempted, and in all points he experienced fear as well.

      Paul gave us his example when struggling with his own weakness:

      “And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, “MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR YOU, FOR MY STRENGTH IS MADE PERFECT IN WEAKNESS”. Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the POWER OF CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, FOR CHRIST’S SAKE For when I am weak, then I am strong.” 2 Cor 12:7-10

      What is the throne of grace that Paul himself approach in boldness for mercy in the time of his need? We can see through this scripture that he approached Christ, who listens to our supplications and blesses us with mercy “to help in the time of need”. How wonderful to not only approach our Father, but also the Son, our High Priest.

      1 Pet 2:1-10

  • Jim

    I am always disappointed with the memorial talk. Yet, I know that I have no more important place to be at that time. What grieves me is the lack of emphasis of what our Savior and his Father endured. Having lost a son, I only now understand, in some small way, what Jehovah as a father went through. I watched my son die as I held his hand. It had to be completely agonizing for Jehovah to watch what his son was enduring. All the while, resisting the urge to STOP it. Roberts explanation that Jesus had not only the weight of the world on his shoulders of past and future dead, but not wanting to disappoint his father touched me. I can’t believe how fortunate we all are to have such a loving God. Folks, please do not let anything get between you and our God. Do not let the Watch Tower stumble you. Go with the program, as best your conscience will allow, and associate with your brothers. Don’t be stumbled. PRAY. May Jehovah bless you.

    • Sorry for your loss Jim, my heart feels your pain.

      • Jim

        Thank you, brother….

    • Jonah Peter Paul

      Sorry for your loss. We can’t imagine what you’ve been through. My grandmother always said (referring to my mother’s death) that it was more difficult to lose a child than to lose a parent. I did not understand what she meant at that time but now as a parent myself I do fully understand what she meant. Your advice at the bottom part of your comment was also great. There aren’t many people who have a balanced view of things even after knowing the truths that this website was able to reveal. Just a little while more if Jah wills and we make it there, we will see our loved ones again. Agape to you from us.

      • Jim

        Thank you. And sorry for the loss of your mother. Even if I don’t “make it”, I have comfort in the certainty that my son through his death has made it. But I do have concern, that if I am not there to receive him from the grave, how hurt he may be. He was a kind hearted person who cared about others more than himself. He suffered greatly.

        • Jonah Peter Paul

          Why would you not make it? You don’t have to answer the question. Jehovah will ultimately be the judge because only he can read our hearts. If the judging was entrusted to our fellow human beings, I would be 100% sure that me and my family won’t make it either. Thankfully that is not the case. We make many mistakes but it is our motives, the content of our hearts that will define who we are and not the bad decisions that we’ve made. I know no one is perfectly sure if they are going to make it or not but after being enlightened as to what Jehovah really expects of his servants through this website, me and my husband learned a lot. It’s not the hours, not the privilege, not even the standing in the congregation that will reflect one’s standing in God’s eyes. In our experience it is in fact the opposite. Those who are considered as spiritually weak, outcasts, apostates in our case are usually the ones who have a better relationship with God. We will not be judged based on human standards. Forget thinking about who will welcome your son from the grave, let us do what we can now for Jehovah and trust that he knows our suffering and that his ultimate desire for us humans is to be happy. To be honest it is not my mother who I am looking forward to see but my grandparents who served as the only people who ever cared about me and taught me so much about God and the Bible. I always daydream about seeing them and living in our own home, big enough for all of us and worship God together as a big family! Thinking of those things help us gain the strength that we need to endure until the very end. Eyes on the prize brother! Here is an amazing article that will bring tears to your eyes. If you haven’t read it yet but if you already have, there is no harm in reading something as encouraging and beautiful as this again: https://e-watchman.com/imagining-paradise/

          • Erik

            We can be assured that Jehovah will do what is best, even if we don’t understand it.
            Job did not understand why things were happening to him but Jehovah saw the bigger picture. The Bible mentions that “all those desiring to live in godly devotion will be persecuted” (2 TIM. 3:12)
            That persecution can take various forms but like Job, when it no longer serves a purpose there is no reason to allow it to continue. Therefore, we place our hope and our trust in Jehovah. The “Hope” that relief from whatever trail we are experiencing will come soon but the “Trust” that it will come when the time is right.

    • I am heartfuly sorry for your loss and I can only imagen your pain brother but trust Jehovah and trust in jesus also. I wish I could take away your pain but I cant. but I offer you this scripture brother and hope it might sooth you,

      Isaiah 25:8

      8 He will swallow up death forever,

      And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will wipe away the tears from all faces.

      The reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth,

      For Jehovah himself has spoken it.
      may Jehovah be with you and keep you strong brother take refuge in Jehovah there you will find peace.

    • I am heartfully sorry for your loss and I can only imagine your pain brother but trust in Jehovah and trust in jesus also. I wish I could take away your pain but I cant. but I offer you this scripture brother and hope it might serve to sooth you. take comfort in the one whom delights in Righteousness. only his glory can restore to you that witch you have lost let your faith carry you and remember his promise.

      Isaiah 25:8

      8 He will swallow up death forever,

      And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will wipe away the tears from all faces.

      The reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth,

      For Jehovah himself has spoken it.

      Matthew 19:26

      26 Looking at them intently, Jesus said to them: “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

      may Jehovah be with you and keep you strong brother take refuge in Jehovah there you will find peace.

    • James

      That was beautiful.

    • D34D 4L!3N

      amen

    • Thinking

      Hello Brother Jim,
      I am new to this Disqus writing set up so am navigating my way thru so many answers and getting to know many by them.
      I admire your faith and your view on the memorial..as I too am always disappointed in it as they seem to forget all about Jesus and his suffering .
      I always silently apologize to Jehovah and Jesus for it in the memorial.
      I too have lost a son and know what you have gone thru and am still going thru.
      I’m so sorry for you and your family and your boy….words are useless aren’t they.
      I just wanted to say I admire how you are sticking with the truth..knowing what you know and going thru what you have.
      So many learn TTATT and use it as an excuse to leave or mock it.
      I’m the only one in my cong that knows it…to my knowledge anyway…so it’s very encouraging when I read of ones who are sticking with it…to be there to help others when the confusion starts…or out of loyalty to Jehovah as to recognizing …it’s not his time to discipline is..and we need to respect his timeline.
      Thank you for your encouragement and for percervering under such painful times.
      Sis thinking

      • Jim

        Sister. Sorry about your son. I wish I could talk to you, and find out more about your son. Most people don’t or can’t understand such a loss. Anyway, take care.

        • Thinking

          You could always email me Jim but how do we do that privately ….I love making friends with genuine brothers and sisters..but on a place like this one has to be careful…mmmm well if you can work it out let me know…I’m not particularly savvy with this sort of stuff

      • Jim

        Yes. There should be a bit more focus on Jesus’ suffering, and Jehovah’s as well. The price that was paid for us was immense. We have both lost son’s. Can you imagine the grief that Jah went through seeing his son suffer like that? I am sure, as a perfect creature, Jehovah suffered and felt the emotions even more than you or I. Shamefully, I used to think that it wasn’t so hard for Jehovah, because he knew he would see his son again in a few days. I was so wrong!! Death is a horrible thing. It is unnatural. I would have grieved just as deeply even if I knew I would see Nick again later in the week! Another thing! I think that Jehovah could have sent any one of his angelic son’s in perfect human form to atone for Adam’s and our sins. But he sent his firstborn! This is just speculation on my part. But I don’t see why not. And one more thing. I don’t like that at the end of the talk, the website JW.org was mentioned from the platform. I also detest those blue JW.org signs on Kingdom Halls!! And I hate it when brothers wear Watchtower tie tacks!! Could be being too picky, but that stuff doesn’t sit well with me..

        • Thinking

          Hi Jim,
          We seem to be of like minds on these things..as I bet a lot of readers here are.
          Our memorial talk this year was one of the best as it was given by our new wonderful and young elder..there was no mention of the need to go out preaching etc and the JW org definitely wasn’t mentioned but he had to stick to the outline and Jesus still wasn’t the main focus..not that he has to be the main focus but what he did and went thru should really be laid bare to all.
          I’m so sorry about Nick…it wasn’t until I lost my boy that the sting of death was really felt by me.
          I mean I had lost my mum and others but a child is something totally different.
          I couldn’t have done what Jehovah did….I am too selfish …
          Jim feel free to contact me..you or your wife…sharonanne000@internode.on.net.
          Losing a child tends to bond certain ones….a sister four hours away bonded with me as she lost her boy the same way.
          We hug each convention…it’s a deeper and stronger hug than we give anyone else….we just KNOW….and no further words need to be said..and yes we did have a very long tearful talk initially.
          I thank Jehovah constantly for the hope of the resurrection and for what He and Jesus did…for the depth of their love.
          My human Mind and heart simply cannot comprehend that depth.
          Take care Jim …
          Sis thinking

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  • Brian

    “Let your Kingdom come, let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.”
    I have thought that this scripture was self explanatory as in the Kingdom comes and this is the very instrument that brings the will of Jehovah to the earth as it is also done in the heavens..

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