I tell you the truth, I do not know you.

//I tell you the truth, I do not know you.

Thursday, August 18

The virgins who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast.Matt. 25:10.

A quality that helped those virgins to be ready was vigilance. Would it be possible for individual anointed Christians to get sleepy during a long nighttime vigil? Indeed. Note that Jesus says of the ten virgins that “they all became drowsy and fell asleep.” Jesus knew well that even a willing, eager spirit may be hampered by the weakness of the flesh. Faithful anointed ones have heeded that implied warning and have worked ever harder to remain vigilant, watchful. In the parable, all the virgins responded to the nighttime shout: “Here is the bridegroom!” But only the vigilant ones endured to the end. What about faithful anointed ones today? Throughout the last days, they have responded to strong evidence that, in effect, cries out, “Here is the bridegroom”—just about to come. They have also endured, keeping ever ready for the Bridegroom to arrive.


There is one over-riding, persistent error that permeates everything the Watchtower teaches. It is the insidious lie that Christ has already come, that his rule has begun. No matter what trivial adjustments are made, the lie will always remain —at least until Christ comes.

No matter how absurd the explanations, Watchtower loyalists will believe it. They will not only believe it, elders will persecute any congregant who may have the spiritual wherewithal to raise legitimate questions concerning Bethel’s teachings.

Consider how the deeply embedded lie is apparent in today’s text. Prior to 2013 the Watchtower taught that the wise and foolish virgins parted ways back in 1918. Supposedly the wise virgins made their way to the wedding feast back then and the door was closed.

Perhaps in response to the exposé published in the original edition of Jehovah Himself Has Become King, which was distributed among the Watchtower’s leadership, Bethel made an “adjustment” in their understanding; or rather, in the understanding imposed upon Jehovah’s Witnesses.

No doubt keenly aware of the absurdity of the notion that the door of the heavenly calling was closed almost a century ago, Bethel was compelled to do something. The new teaching states that the call —“here is the bridegroom. Go out to meet him” —rang out in 1914; however,  it has been resounding over and over and over again ever since then over successive generations, while the virgins are still waiting for the bridegroom to come. Here is what was written in an article in the WT review regarding this topic:

In the Watchtower’s scenario the original “virgins” who heard the proclamation that “the bridegroom is here!” responded and went out to meet him, but he never showed up. In fact, all those symbolic virgins associated with the Bible Students died off waiting for the bridegroom after they were supposedly roused from slumber by the shout in the middle of the night. It didn’t matter if they were wise or foolish, or if they had an inexhaustible supply of oil in their spiritual lamps – they still died waiting for the bridegroom, after they had been told he was here! True, they may have endured to the end, but it was not the end of the system as Jesus used the expression, but the end of their lives.

Another generation of wise and foolish virgins follows and they presumably hear the reverberating announcement that “the bridegroom is here! Go out to meet him.” They also responsively go out into the darkness to meet him with their lamps aglow. Again, he doesn’t show. Like their predecessors, they all die off wandering in the gloom waiting for the bridegroom to meet them – both the wise and the foolish, there is no distinction.

Now, yet another generation of presumptive wise and foolish virgins comes on the world stage. They too are told, ad nauseam, ‘the bridegroom is here and has been here for 100 years!’ No wonder they all nod off from sheer fatigue.

Obviously, the bridegroom is not here. That is why all those who have figuratively gone out to meet him have been repeatedly disappointed. Ironically, that makes the Watchtower’s question all the more pertinent: Will you keep on the watch?

Contrary to the comment in today’s text the faithful virgins have not responded to the announcement the the bridegroom is here. How could they, since in reality the bridegroom is not here?

Rather than promoting wakefulness, the Watchtower’s phony proclamation that the bridegroom is here (and also “just about to come”) is instrumental in causing complacency.

Because the Watchtower stands as the sole source of truth for Jehovah’s Witnesses no doubt the reason the foolish virgins will find themselves in the dark with no more “oil” for their lamps is because they have unwisely depended on Bethel to tell them what is true and have not really gotten the sense of things. 

When the bridegroom finally arrives, heralded by the outbreak of global war, chaos, and all the rest, the five virgins with no reserve will foolishly return to the Watchtower’s sellers of illuminating oil one last time. But their delay will cost them dearly. Making their way to the feast they will find they have been locked out. Knocking and requesting entry, the bridegroom will respond: “I tell you the truth, I do not know you.”

2017-03-18T11:41:37+00:00 August 18th, 2016|Commentary|163 Comments
  • Great commentary, how can something so Crystal Clear and resonate with absolute truth be so unattainable to the masses of JW’s? Oh that’s right they been bamboozled & unable to see clearly, so sad.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Hello Robert, on the forum site, what does the ‘reputation’ number mean? And I have a thumbs down sign next to mine, plus a sword of Damocles and a picture of a hand grenade with a note to the four horsemen attached to it! ?

    • ewatchman

      Someone can give any other poster a thumbs up or down. Looks like you have a thumbs out, so that’s pretty good, I guess.

    • 1914for100Alex

      Good to see you finally taught your dog to sit on the floor and not the wall 🙂

      • Burt Reynolds

        Yes, I have had a lot of trouble with my dog and his stunning anti gravity tricks. There are paw prints on the ceiling and I often find him floating about the house. It has its compensations though, he cooks a lovely steak with a rich wine ju and he earnt a considerable salary at CERN where he was head of research in Molecular Mass Equivalents in Light Gravitational Velocity. He was on my team there in 2003 and we retired together but he still carries on his research in the garden shed he converted and he’s just back from holiday next year….that’s as far as he’s got in time travel. He’s been quite successful for a spaniel, it’s usually the German shepherds that get the top jobs. He’s called Basil, after the herb.

        • 1914for100Alex

          Amazing. I never would have thought that just by looking at him. I mean, NASA scientist maybe, but CERN? Wow!

  • Burt Reynolds

    Oh this is wonderfully put Robert. I do so love the cut of your dialogue. Generation after generation dying off waiting for the bridgroom that has arrived and is just coming and almost here, just round the corner, but never turns up….no, wait….yeees, no! But he is just coming………now! No……NOW! …….no, nope…..wait for iiiittt………N.. Talk about being spiritually jilted at the alter! It’s worth going through Armageddon just to read your comments! Jehovah has a certain inspirational and cutting wit, not just here but thoughout the scriptures. It occurred to me reading this, that if the watchtower has plagiarised your work, then they are, according to their own teaching, actually taking the word of an ‘apostate’, lured away by Satan and peddling it as truth!? Thus If they are knowingly not even true to themselves, how can they fool themselves that they will be blessed by Jehovah? Are they blind or knowingly misleading the flock? I never really thought about it this way until I read your work here. If I have understood this correctly, the brothers that this refers to are the anointed. If so many are to be lost as the parable shows, then how or in what way, will these numbers be made up please?

    • ewatchman

      I really can’t answer that question. But, I suspect that it will not be necessary to replace the lost ones. Like Jesus said many are called but few chosen, there are obviously more called than those who are finally chosen.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      At some point in the future all those who are under the operation of error will be confronted with the absolute truth concerning the 1914 lie probably with the outbreak of world war three and will be presented with a choice, however there will be many brothers and sisters who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth in order that they might be saved, Why? because they did not believe the truth about the 1914 lie but took “pleasure” in unrighteousness.
      the very fact that they’re taking pleasure in unrighteousness shows they willingly made a rebellious choice in opposition to Jesus authentic parousia therefore they’re judged. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

  • Open minded

    Robert..Question. you mentioned in one of your comments about having been going regularly to meetings and all that you have to do is shut down the site and you can be reinstated .I understand that you like having the friends, singing songs and drawing strength from the encouragement of attending, after all as Jesus said weather two or more his spirit will be present.Then you say you shake yourself awake from the delusion..Imy not sure how to take this one foot in thing, its almost like your saying what you’ve spent many a year digging for the pearls of truth and teaching might not be worth being on the outside ? I feel as if blinders have been removed from my eyes with what you teach. Is there some reason you feel the need to chose one over the other as if maybe Jehovah will open there eyes at the last minute once they taken there lashes? and you feel you’d be better off if you get back in game? Where then would all this knowledge go if you pull the plug? Please help


      I believe Brother King has a wonderful gift…He has the innate ability to blend sincerity with sarcasm to convey his thoughts and feelings on matters of truth….

    • ewatchman

      That was my point, I would never “pull the plug.” Someone else might, but it won’t be me. As far as me going to meetings, I do think it is time for me to get back in the game, to at least be in the mix as the day draws near. At some point I will gain a lot of credibility and JW’s will be willing to listen then. Who knows, if the Internet stays up this site may go viral in the JW community. Because everyone is connected it could happen pretty quickly, like in a matter of a few weeks.

      • that’s my thinking on the matter as well. we can well see the time is drawing very near Robert but you of all people are in a great position of help to help so many faithful brothers and sisters and when the watchtower goes down they will have no choice but to listen to you because to do otherwise is a choice of chaos confusion and even death. some how Robert I think all you have done over the last decade is about to pay off. Jehovah has blessed you and I think he will continue to do so and many will finally listen to truth.

  • LW

    In view of how in the near future, the anointed virgins who are dismissed by Christ because of their not having been prepared, I wonder if the ones that are on here could be also among the wise virgins or ‘true anointed’ 😉

  • Yuri Fisher

    Again 1914. This number is everywhere in JW organization. It is like a cross in the christian false religion. No escape from this number. They chant it all the time. How Jehovah hates this number. This number really leads milions of blinded servant of Jehovah to their death. How happy is satan that most of JW believe in this number. How easy it will be for him to overpower lost and weak witnesses when WT mother is dead. I try to talk about it with my wife and some from congregation. My wife now do not believe in 1914. So I hope when time will come to leave WT she will do it. I consider myself mentally already out of WT. I will never come back to former beliefs of 1914. This number for me is dead.



      Let us not forget “1878”, the date chanted prior to “1914” as to being when Christ took his throne…SMH….satan the devil is a master at his deceptive craft, employing every lying sign and portent to mislead Jehovah’s people…the origin of the 1914 date being derived from pyramidology should be a huge red flag, but as they say in the propagandist business, “If you repeat a lie long enough, people will start to believe its the truth.”
      Jehovah allows this operation of error as a test of our love for the truth…Obviously by your disgust with the 1914 lie, dear brother Yuri, you show that you love the truth and Jehovah…Please do not lose heart though, brother King has helped so many with this site wake up….Thank Jehovah for that!

  • Bklyn Kevin

    A good question to ask our supposed virgins at the watchtower,- how It’s even possible for them to claim virgin status in view of their adulteress act with the United Nations.
    On October 8, 2001, Stephen Bates, the religious affairs correspondent for The Guardian newspaper in London, originally broke the story revealing the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was registered with the United Nations Department of Public Information (DPI) as an officially recognized NGO (non-governmental organization). Unbeknownst to millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses, it turns out that the Watchtower had been secretly affiliated with the United Nations for nearly a decade.

    James 4:4, which reads: “Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.” Read more>

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    Hi friends. I’m just going to post a little update re the “activity” in my physical congregation. I write this not to be gossipy, because for all I know the people I refer to are here observing (I doubt it) but I don’t want anyone to ever think I’m speaking up to rouse drama. I actually hate it….I feel very tired and drained since yesterday, but I’m still standing. I will not sit down and drink the koolaid. Never again. Being sober minded is too critical in these weird days.

    Yesterday I awoke to a text requesting THE coffee talk that started with the sister approaching me re 2 Thessalonians 2 on Sunday. I really didn’t have the time and I wasn’t mentally prepared, but I silently asked Jehovah to give me strength and the words. Typically I’m an obsessive mental rehearsaholic, so I figured this would be an example of totally relying on Jehovah.

    The chat took 2 hours. I requested we open with a prayer. The first scripture she used was Daniel 12:3. I said that I definitely believe the chosen ones will shine when Jesus comes. Well that triggered the whole 1914 thing. It never got argumentative. The dear sister sighed and said that I sound like an apostate and that she’s afraid for my life because I may not listen to the direction from the GB. I told her to please view me as a Borean or view me as “sister Thomas.” She didn’t even want me to read Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and she said 1975 wasn’t a big deal….”only a little pocket of people were stumbled.” (Tell that to my dear father)

    She directly asked me how I conduct bible studies if I don’t believe in 1914. I said “I skip the appendix.” She recoiled and said “can you really call yourself a Jehovah’s witness if you don’t believe everything in our books?” I said “I was baptized at age 14 and I know I just read the 1914 info out of the book, plus out of all the baptism questions, it’s only mentioned twice, so I don’t think 1914 is the central theme of the wonderful truths we teach from the Bible.”

    When I referenced Psalms 146:3 she again said that the FDS don’t apply because “they meet as a group and they are not a man.” (What?????!!!!) I replied that Satan even infiltrated the apostles whom Jesus chose, so why should be surprised if Satan influences those taking the lead and I said that Jehovah removed his hedge around Job, so if Jehovah put a special hedge around the GB, how could they really make a reply to Satan who taunts them?

    Things went around in circles, but the time passed quickly. If anyone from my congregation is in here and watching, please know that I love you, I love Jehovah God more than my own life and I’m trying so so hard to follow Jesus and not deny him.

    I also learned that I’m officially done trying to poke anybody out if their dreamy GB rocked slumber. I have let my light shine here locally and my conscience is clear. I don’t need to waste my own energy and I can “shake the dust off my feet” with my head held high. Now I will simply wait for Jehovah to “shake the nation’s.” (Haggai 2:6,7)

    I feel very grateful for finding this bible study group. I imagine this is how the early Bible students felt, studying with Mr Russell. I feel mentally free and clear. But like everything is a pattern, because we humans are so dumb with our egos, Im glad brother King’s gift of logic and reasoning from the scriptures hasn’t turned him into Russell 2.0 This is yet another reason why we need Jesus to come, because even when humans stumble onto the truth, we muck it up by trying to control others with it. I don’t need or want to control others with what I’ve learned in the last 6 months, so now I’ll just keep studying for myself, sit on my hands, and bite my tongue. I don’t feel defeated in any way, but I’ll let Jehovah and Jesus assemble their army while I focus on putting on my own armour.

    Sorry for “the abundance of words!”

    • 1914for100Alex

      Well done “Sister Thomas” 😉 I love that you pointed out how Satan infiltrated the apostles. For me, that is a huge help in understanding what Robert has to say. Once you make that connection everything else just seems to fall into place. You begin to realize how arrogant it is to think it can’t or won’t happen again. I know it might not change her mind now, but you planted that seed. Hopefully some doubt starts growing!

    • Volcanic

      not much I want to say, other than you carried yourself really well & to say I will let the guys give you the praise & the upbuilding chat whilst I do the sisterly thing & send a huge hug to you xoxoxo

    • Watchtower-repeaters and nameless GB worshipers. they dont make the truth their own but make whatever they are told by people whom they dont even know by name or know personally their truth. her loss

      • i dont want to sound nor promote being so insensitive but i read these and it just erks me and feel your pain. you showed love for the truth and your sister and gave it what you could. Jehovah is who makes it grow so its in his hands. all we can do is just tell the truth and shake the dirt from our sandals

    • Daisy

      Au revoir dear sis… You are in all our prayers…we won’t forget you.
      Hugs n more hugs…miss you already. Love you…

    • Joe Dman

      Often I go over scenarios where i can deposit this truth in some way with those who it will affect when it all comes unraveled. Its apparent that what we have is a gift given to us for whatever reason, probably for our own benefit. Like Jehovah said: they won’t believe what was told to them until fear makes them believe it. I, as many of you, have wondered why we have come to know this. I can’t recall a scripture that describes any roll that we as members of the great crowd will fulfill that set us apart from others that will also be members that did not get a forewarning. Maybe we’re just witnesses to the fact that the warning was shouted by the watchman, and how the WT built a wall around themselves, declaring themselves to be the husbandly owner of what is Jehovah’s.

      • 1914for100Alex

        The only thing that makes sense is that Jehovah must have read our hearts and known we were sincere in wanting to know the truth. On a personal level, Jehovah didn’t bother sending me back to the KH (haven’t been there in decades). He sent me here. That tells me the time really is short.

      • Bklyn Kevin

        I can assure you that the great crowd will not be sitting on the sidelines, we must remember that Jehovah will pour out his spirit on all sorts of flash including men servants as well as maid servants which foreshadow the great crowd who will more than likely be participants In the proclamations of doom against the nations by marching around the city as it were,
        just like Joshua and the Israelites when they had marched around Jericho blowing the horn until the great walls of Jericho collapsed.

        6 Now Jerʹi·cho was tightly shut up because of the Israelites; no one was leaving and no one was entering.

        2 Jehovah then said to Joshua: “See, I have handed over to you Jerʹi·cho and its king and its mighty warriors.

        3 All you fighting men should march around the city, going around the city once. That is what you should do for six days. 4 Have seven priests carry seven ram’s horns before the Ark. But on the seventh day, you should march around the city seven times and the priests should blow the horns.

        5 When the ram’s horn is sounded—as soon as you hear the sound* of the horn—all the people should shout a great war cry. Then the wall of the city will fall down flat, and the people must go up, each one straight ahead.”

        12 The next morning Joshua got up early, and the priests took up the Ark of Jehovah,
        13 and seven priests carrying seven ram’s horns walked before the Ark of Jehovah, continuously blowing the horns. The armed troops were walking ahead of them while the rear guard was following the Ark of Jehovah as the horns were blown continuously.
        14 They marched around the city on the second day once, after which they returned to the camp. That was what they did for six days.
        15 On the seventh day they got up early, as soon as the dawn broke, and they marched around the city in the same manner seven times. It was only on that day that they marched around the city seven times.
        16 And on the seventh time, the priests blew the horns, and Joshua told the people: “Shout, for Jehovah has given you the city!.6 Now Jerʹi·cho was tightly shut up because of the Israelites; no one was leaving and no one was entering.

        Isaiah 55:11
        So my word that goes out of my mouth will be.It will not return to me without results, But it will certainly accomplish whatever is my delight, And it will have sure success in what I send it to do.

        • Joe Dman

          I’m getting a triple play on Joshua. I just finished reading it in my personal bible reading, Robert did a daily commentary recently and now this. One thing that stands out is the fact that they were not to keep anything from Jericho, the first city in the promised land they conquered, even though something may seem good. They were to destroy everything. After that Jehovah allowed them to keep certain things from other conquests. That lesson I suppose is to simply obey Jehovah, he will not keep things from us indefinitely.

      • Joshua

        Hello Joe, thinking said I should approach you for his/her email? Thank you. Nice to meet you.

        • Joe Dman

          Hey Joshua, if you or anyone else wants someone else’s email and don’t want to post your own on here, you can email me and I’ll pass it to whoever you want to have it or make sure with them that I can give you theirs. Mine’s dmaninspection@gmail.com I can’t prevent hackers from getting to them but I won’t forward them to anyone you don’t want to have them.

    • ewatchman

      I missed this the other day. I appreciate your efforts to wake JW’s up.

      “Russell 2.0” – now that is funny!

  • Old Lady Brady

    Hey everybody,
    I have recently read the book of Jude and there was a passage that i didn’t quite understand. I was hoping somebody could help me out. It was Jude 1:9 about Michael disputing with the devil about the body of Moses. What does it mean by this?.

    • LW

      There was a difference of opinion, the Bible doesn’t say what purpose the devil had in mind, but knowing his character, it couldn’t possibly have been anything good. But even though Michael could have asserted his power as the archangel, he left the resolving of the matter to his Father.

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?. Read more>

      Another objection occasionally encountered from the Jesus-is-God crowd, is that Jesus could not be Michael because, as cited already, Michael did not have authority to rebuke Satan when a dispute arose over the disposition of Moses’ corpse – whereas, Jesus does have authority to rebuke the Devil. Obviously, though, Michael will have authority over Satan when the battle of heaven is fought. This reflects the fact that prior to his coming to the earth Jesus did not have all authority. That is why also, during the days of Daniel, Michael was simply one of the foremost princes. But after Christ triumphantly returned to heaven, victorious over the ruler of the world who tempted him in every way, now Michael is the great prince, commanding all of God’s angels and having full authority to banish Satan from the heavenly realm and crush him.

      More: #6 Is Jesus Michael the Archangel?.

  • John

    Well done Sister Thomas!
    Look for the fierce-looking king according to Daniel coming to power. It is near, it is looking to be Donald Trump. Then he will have his rule of terror for 3,5 years begining 2017, 23 September when the heavenly sign of Revelation 12 occurs and Satan gets thrown down to earth. And he will put the disgusting thing in to the holy place, the kingdom halls. I wonder how many witnesses will then stay there?

    If you wish deeper explanations just ask please.

    • Volcanic

      I would like deeper explanations please, John

      • Peter Zuccerberg

        Here is one of the links you requested.

        The pictures of Russell and a Rothschild and others, is ironically in his own magazine, back in 1870 then called the Zion. A very credible source wouldn’t you say. Quite a few people have those original volumes. So this cannot be erased from their history. I apologize for taking so long, but I was very busy and wanted to give you accurate and credible data.

        Give me a little more time and I will pinpoint the clip where Franz declares 1 (one) go member calls all the shot, either or unofficially that 1 man runs the entire watchtower. Scary thought!

        Regarding the above YouTube video link: You may be surprised at what else it states too.

        It starts getting interesting at 00:14:20.

      • John

        Hi again sister,
        Here are some scriptures that would fit Donald Trump, because it speaks about a king/horn that speaks arrogantly, and that is how Donald Trump speaks very often as everybody knows. And the scripture here says that he will make war against the holy ones, the anointed for a time, times and a half time, that is 3 and half years. This is exactly the same period as in Revelation 12 after Satan is thrown down to earth:

        Daniel 7:20…and about the ten horns+ on its head, and the other horn that came up and before which three fell,+ the horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking arrogantly* and whose appearance was bigger than that of the others.
        21 “I kept watching as that horn made war on the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them,+ 22 until the Ancient of Days+ came and judgment was rendered in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One,+ and the appointed time arrived for the holy ones to take possession of the kingdom.+
        As for the ten horns, ten kings will rise up out of that kingdom; and still another one will rise up after them, and he will be different from the first ones, and he will humiliate three kings.+ 25 He will speak words against the Most High,+ and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.*+ 26 But the Court sat, and they took away his rulership, in order to annihilate him and to destroy him completely.+

        It is very clear from these scriptures that the 3 and half year period is just before Armageddon, and can noway be something that occured 100 years ago.

        • Volcanic

          I can’t comment on the personality of Donald Trump because I am not American & I don’t follow politics, nor do I own a TV to keep up with the election fever of the USA. However, all the things you have described seem to fit Trump, Clinton & even Obama.

          Just as a side note it is interesting that satan is to be given the same amount of time on earth to ‘preach’ his evil message as did Jesus when on earth preaching about God’s Kingdom – justice prevails as ever!
          I do agree that the 3 1/2 year period is just before Armageddon.

          • Song of Hannah

            That’s very insightful Volcanic! ??

            • Volcanic

              Thank you, Hannah, that means a lot xoxoxo.
              I also noticed that Elijah was involved in a 3 1/2 yr period too & was wondering if, as he is pictured as one of the 2 Witnesses, that is also portentous.
              I’m getting bit obsessed now looking at time periods from Jehovahs word!! Doing me a lot of good brain wise, I must admit!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Revelation of Christ and the Two Witnesses.

              The two witnesses of Revelation are symbolized by Moses and Elijah, not only because Moses and Elijah both appeared in the transfiguration vision, but because Moses and Elijah had personal encounters with Jehovah when they were alive. Significantly, both Moses and Elijah were forced to flee into the wilderness and it was in the wilderness that Jehovah sphttps://e-watchman.com/revelation-christ-two-witnesses/oke to them. Moses spoke to Jehovah at the burning bush and also talked to Jehovah face-to-face upon Mount Sinai. ( In reality it was the manifestation of an angel) Read more>

          • John


            Sister, check this video and you will see a few things how Donald Trump speaks and how mainsteam media is reacting to it in USA. It is a new clip from today, only a few minutes long but gives you a picture.

        • Song of Hannah

          Kinda funny you are saying Trump, when all the tin hats like Alex Jones & Judge Jeanine are saying he is the last hope against world domination by the elite… so who really knows, really?

          • Song of Hannah

            Um, I should mention, I wasn’t trying to be derogatory toward tin hats. In the end they are often right! ?

          • Volcanic

            must admit I had that kinda feeling about Trump to be honest, Hannah, I always felt that as a businessman rather than a politician he has it in him to be more conciliatory & from the bit I have heard from him he does appear to be against war.
            Maybe he realises that war is definitely not the answer – unfortunately, as we know from the Bible that cannot happen in anyone’s lifetime now!

            • John

              Well, you can’t say he is against war. He says he will swiftly annihilate ISIS. And he will take on Iran, because they threaten Israel. Donald Trump loves Israel. Benjamin Netanjahu is his friend and his own daugther has converted to judaism because she married to Jared Kushner who happened to buy the Brooklyn buildings from Watchtower society. He even appears on one video at jw.org and gives an interview.

              But Donald Trump don’t want to fight with Russia. Instead his targets are radical Islamic regims.

            • Volcanic

              sorry, John, I should have qualified by saying that I believe Mr Trump to be against a world war, indeed it is an unbelievably reckless step for any country to take, were it not part of Biblical prophecy making it inevitable. I think the taking out of ISIS on the part of Trump would be a fast & furious action rather than a protracted war & possibly the same scenario with Iran.

      • John

        Here are some more scriptures that would fit Donald Trump. Does not the personality described here fit him because in the news commentators often say something like he is fierce and should not be trusted nuclear codes, he is smart and cunning. And have you seen him in interviews? It is hard to trap him with ambiguous questions, because he gets the motivations behind them. And he has many times told he will bring to ruin mighy once, he is even saying outright that Hillary should go to jail and he has severily critized the “dishonest media”.
        And we have already seen that he really likes to exalt himself.

        Daniel8:23 And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion,* a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings* will stand up. 24 His power will become great, but not through his own power. He will bring ruin in an extraordinary way,* and he will be successful and act effectively. He will bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones.+ 25 And by his cunning he will use deception to succeed; and in his heart he will exalt himself; and during a time of security* he will bring many to ruin. He will even stand up against the Prince of princes, but he will be broken without human hand.

        • Volcanic

          hmmm, here is a tenuous link to Trump being President maybe if you use your imagination somewhat, John!

          To quote you if I may…….. ” Donald Trump loves Israel. Benjamin Netanjahu is his friend and his own daughter has converted to Judaism because she married to Jared Kushner who happened to buy the Brooklyn buildings from Watchtower society. He even appears on one video at jw.org and gives an interview”.

          In my eyes that could go either way, if he is elected President & with the facts you quoted about his daughter etc., do you really think it probable that he would bring ruin to the WTS, given that he could maybe link Israel & Jerusalem with the Bible prophecies in such a way that he would believe that Jehovah is restoring Israel at that time & be more tolerant of the WTS because of their link with earthly Jerusalem as the original temple?

          Alternatively, as I read vaguely somewhere on this site, (my apologies for not quoting exactly the reference), the aggressor (Trump?) appears to make a pact with the WTS for a while before bringing the society to ruin (“by his cunning he will use deception to succeed” – perhaps using his daughters link to Israel??).

          Do you have any supporting evidence to convince us of either scenario, if indeed, the thought has in fact crossed your mind?

          It was a purely fleeting thought on my part when you quoted the above.

          • John

            Yes the prophecy says what will happen:

            Daniel 11:31 And arms* will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary,+ the fortress, and remove the constant feature.*+
            “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.+
            32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words.* But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively.

            The sancuary and the fortress I believe is the Watchtower society. So Donald Trump as next president would come and 1. Profane the Watchtower organization and 2. Remove the constant feature, that I think is the formal witnessing. That he will ban the preaching work. 3. Lead into apostacy. I think the prophecy means that he will allow meetings to be held, with the condition that the Watchtower society adopts pure apostate things that go directly against God’s commandments. I think what will happen is that he will make the Watchtower society worship the beast and adopt the mark of the beast. Because those are the main issues that will put mankind to the test before Armageddon according to Revelation.

            Yes, the scripture says then “he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words”. Donald Trump as a cunning salesman is said to be very charming one on one. So he knows how to use smooth words.

            • Volcanic

              John, thank you once again for your reply, I must admit that whilst acknowledging the arguments against you here, I do have a certain respect for what you are saying, although at this stage I cannot say that I yet agree with you.

              I have quickly studied up the, (if you can say) ‘virtues’ of each of the US presidential candidates & I am still of the opinion that Ms Clinton would fit the bill rather more effectively, she is a particularly vile sort of person on studying her record & her views, although I agree that she does not have the ‘smooth words’ of Mr Trump so that is one point in his favour.
              Indeed, it is not inconceivable that President Obama could retain his position either, as Bro Robert has pointed out.
              I do question one or two things you have said & would like further clarification from you.

              Rather than keep this thread open would you mind continuing this discussion in a separate thread in the forum where we would not be unduly annoying many people?

            • 1914for100Alex

              FYI, John has been banished from the land.

            • Volcanic

              rolls on floor laughing, Alex! What a pity, I had just prepared my final cross examination ready to go in for the jugular. Oh, well, it was fun while it lasted……………next!!!

            • Poof John John gone……

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              Seems to be a major disturbance in someones force, to throw a Star Wars pun out there…lol

            • ELiJAHxSEVEN

              I just revisited this article and it seems I missed all the fun…wow!

            • ewatchman


              I know you are open-minded and inquisitive and engaging. But I have been at this Internet thing for quite awhile, and it is my experience that most of those who claim to be anointed do not exhibit a sound mind. It is not my place to dispute their claim, I am only speaking from experience. It is a sad reality that many people suffer from mental imbalances and delusions. I try to be tolerant and open-minded and all, but I have my limits.

            • Volcanic

              that’s a jolly nice way of describing me, Bro Robert, I’m sure others could add their tuppence worth also!
              Must admit the words mental imbalances & delusions had come to mind, but it is fun to rummage about in peoples brains every once in a while. LOL

            • Song of Hannah

              Haha, gotta love ya, Volcanic! ?❤️

      • John

        Here are even more scriptures about the same king, as spoken of in Daniel 7 and 8 that already fit the personality of Donald Trump.

        Daniel 11:36The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods+ he will speak astonishing things. And he will prove successful until the denunciation comes to a finish; because what is determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the God of his fathers; nor will he show regard for the desire of women or for any other god, but he will magnify himself over everyone. 38 But instead* he will give glory to the god of fortresses; to a god that his fathers did not know he will give glory by means of gold and silver and precious stones and desirable* things. 39 He will act effectively against the most fortified strongholds, along with* a foreign god. He will give great glory to those who give him recognition,* and he will make them rule among many; and the ground he will apportion out* for a price.

        • Volcanic

          sounds more like that fits Hillary, I think!

      • John

        The follow verses 29 and 30 describe what has just happened. USA went against the south, the Middle East and failed in their effort to topple the Assad regime in Syria, because Russian ships from Kittim, Cyprus came to aid Syria.
        Then the next thing that should soon happen that USA, with Donald Trump as new president beguns persecuting true Christians, especially the anointed and that he will profane the sanctuary and place there the disgusting thing.
        I expect that in the same way as God’s Temple in Jerusalem way defiled by Roman forces and their idolatrous signs, in the same way the kingdom halls will be defiled by armed forces who will place nationalistic or political idolatrous symbols there.
        I expect this to happen 2017, 23 September. Or very close to that date.

        Daniel 11:29…At the time appointed he will return and come against the south. But this time will not be as it was before, 30 for the ships of Kitʹtim+ will come against him, and he will be humbled.
        “He will go back and hurl denunciations* against the holy covenant+ and act effectively; and he will go back and will give attention to those leaving the holy covenant. 31 And arms* will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary,+ the fortress, and remove the constant feature.*+
        “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.+
        32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words.* But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight+ among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days. 34 But when they are made to stumble, they will be given a little help; and many will join with them by means of smooth speech.* 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and a whitening+ until the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          The Kings of the North and South. Read more>

          {The identification of the USA as the king of the south}
          is based upon, not only that the American system is opposed to the British system in reality, forming the symbolic iron and clay of prophecy, but also the fact that America is symbolized in prophecy as the Egyptian cedar in the garden of God and Egypt was the original king of the south and is depicted as “Egypt” during the time of the end.

          Podcast #41. https://e-watchman.com/podcast
          How can the UK and the USA be the kings of the north and south when they are inseparable allies?
          Program considers other questions regarding whether the Nephilim will be resurrected. Question on “peace and security.”
          And who is the 3rd “Elijah

        • Volcanic

          I have previously posted a video from Hillary Clinton where she states that Christians will be the first to be persecuted when she comes to power!

      • John

        Revelation 12 gives to clues to know when exactly Satan is thrown down to earth. It was not in October 2014 counting from 607 BCE. 2520 years. Instead you should look at the sign in heaven, when the sun and moon are just where they should be around the woman, and when 12 starlike objects are at her head. And when that woman would give birth something.

        What did apostle John see in the sky? What is amazing is that all these components of the prophecy in Revelation 12 happen to occur in the constallation of Virgo, the Virgin in 2017, 23 September. And this celestial alignment happens lesser than once in 7000 years.
        There are quite a lot of websites and youtube videos explaining this. You can google that date and find it. Or even download free applications or programs that allow you to see the sky on specific dates. I did that and checked myself 2017, 23 September and I can confirm that amazingly all components of the prophecy in Revelation 12 about the woman fit that date qhen you look at Virgo.

        That is why I believe 2017, 23 September is the start date for the 1260 days and 42 months and the time and times and half times.

        • Volcanic

          somewhere in my mind is the thought that we were told by Jehovah not to look for portents!
          If it were so easy to work out the date for satan being thrown down then surely Jehovah would have put it in the Bible rather than make us befriend google!

          I find it very interesting what you have said about the celestial alignments, but the whole aspects of the planets & stars change over thousands of years so therefore what is Virgo now could quite easily have been, for example, Taurus less than 7,000 years ago, but I will mark the date & look for further signs around the time of Sept 23 next year.

          Can you give me an example of anything that has happened on that date the previous time the planets were so aligned?

          I rather think that although this is an extremely serious matter Jehovah has that sense of humour to allow things to seemingly fall into place in a human mind & simply tease us by letting us get excited about it, letting us laugh at ourselves wryly when the date has come & gone without any major catastrophe.

          Not convinced, John, but you do put forward a fair argument for debate & thank you for the work involved.

          • Song of Hannah

            Is 47:13 “Let them stand up, now, and save you, the worshipers of the heavens, the lookers at the stars, those giving out knowledge at the new moons concerning the things that will come upon you. 14 Look! They have become like stubble. A fire itself will certainly burn them up.”

            • John

              I don’t think this scripture applies here, because apostle John saw a vision on heaven with the sun and the moon and stars involved. He described a specific alignment of heavenly bodies.

              In addition the Bible says in Genesis 1:14: Then God said: “Let there be luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and the night and they will serve as signs for seasons and for days and years.

            • that is exactly why Jehovah spoke for that scripture to apply. astrology is meaningless. stepping on a crack aint going to break anyones back and throwing salt over your sholder isnt going to help the Raders win the superbowl. John never talked about any specific alignment as if it gave him knowledge of anything to do with Jehovah’s will. Revalation is symbolic. John didnt see any constallation but was given a symbolic vision by Jehovah himself. it is Jehovah who causes to become and looking to the stars is futile. there are quite a lot of websites and youtube videos and they all are blind and way off course yet a distraction for those looking for truth. – 2-Peter 1:20

            • John

              Im not going to dispute here. I just wanted to inform you all in before hand, so that you will not tell why nobody told when it really happens. Expect one more thing because of this time line: the deathstroke and healing to one of the beast’s heads(probably USA) to occure before 2017, 23 September. And Donald Trump to become the fierce-looking king. And expect UN to go into the abyss and get back probably only after 3 and half years from 2017, 23 September. And expect the disgusting thing be placed on the holy place around that same date 2017, 23 September.

              And after that date a push for everyone to get microchipped, to get the mark of the beast.
              It would be nice to flee to the wilderness when the woman flees to the wildernes where they will feed her as the Bible says. The rest of womans seed will be persecuted by Satan according to Revelation 12.

          • John

            I have no other example about happenings that coincided with specific celestial alignments.

            But it is remarkable that Jesus fortold that even false prophets during the time of the end will know that the time is near. How that? Well that they have found all this stuff about Revelation 12 and how it fits what happens at the constallation of Virgo 2017, 23 September. They have also figured out these jubilees from 1917 to 1967 to 2017. In connection to Israel. Understanding about the time is not only for God’s true anointed. This understanding is available for false and true christians. This is a way for God to harden the hearts of false Christ’s disciples so that they would not listen to the real truth about Jehovah God and his kingdom.

            See how Jesus fortold that false prophets will know that it is end times especially during the very last time:

            Luke 21:7Then they questioned him, saying: “Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are to occur?”8 He said: “Look out that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time is near.’ Do not go after them.

            Obviously false prophets will be able to discern the time of the end. That is actually what is taking place, all those trinitarians etc.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              John said” This understanding is available for false and true christians. End Quote.

              In your quote you claim this understanding is available for false and true Christians, but that’s just not true according to what the bible SAYS.

              Daniel 12:
              10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined.

              And the wicked ones will act wickedly, and

              {none of the wicked will understand;}

              but those having insight will understand

              Daniel clearly specified definitely that none of the wicked will understand,
              So you’re either lying purposely or you are just not aware of the context of this scripture in Daniel, which one is It ????.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          John you are clearly promoting divination which is contrary to what the bible teaches.
          Deuteronomy 18:
          9 “When you have entered into the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, you must not learn to imitate the detestable practices of those nations.
          10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer,
          11 anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who consults a spirit medium or a fortune-teller, or anyone who inquires of the dead.
          12 For whoever does these things is detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you.
          13 You should prove yourself blameless before Jehovah your God.
          14 “For these nations that you are dispossessing used to listen to those practicing magic and divination, but Jehovah your God has not allowed you to do anything like this.

          • ewatchman

            I banned John. I could put up with his Trump as the fierce-looking king nonsense, but not the divination.

            • Hahaha hahaha, poor fella is bamboozled by Benjamin Fulford.
              I looked into some of his stuff on YouTube and came to the conclusion it was a bunch of nonsense. He will grow up and figure out he got scammed soon enough.

            • Song of Hannah

              Thanks for keeping the congregation here clean, dear brother! ?

        • John


          This is how Donald Trump whanted to be portrayed on the cover of this book released last autum. He is fierce-looking just as the prophecy in Daniel says.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Who Will Be the Next President of America?. Read more> https://e-watchman.com/next-president-america/

              But I am not assuming that there will be another election, even though it is only eight months away.

              As I have pointed out in various articles —most recently on the rejuvenated Updates page in an entry entitled “London’s Empire Is a Bit Wobbly —the certain knowledge that the Empire’s monetary and financial system is in a terminal phase is pushing them headlong to foment global war. In the event the inevitable crash occurs before the November election the incumbent president could conceivably cancel the election, which would make the sitting president America’s first dictator. So, there is a powerful dynamic at work, an undercurrent steering current events.

            • exactly. we’l see what happens.

              with the NDAA put in place, FEMA camps staffed, the TPP to keep corporations master and everyone in slavery, and the pushing of war with Russua & China, the Watchtower getting sued and Warwick just about finished… everything is falling right on time in place

            • Bklyn Kevin
            • John

              How convenient for Donald Trump all those arrangements would be. As we can know he wants to create law and order and get rid of islamic extremists and illegal immigrants.

            • Obama is actully who put those arrangements into play, if you take the time to look that up or have been paying attention. which is the point. even this site has followed that news consistently as those events have unfolded. Trump hasnt even had a thing to do with it. in-fact has been opposed to the above which is why he is an enemy of his opponents in power. if he wins, it wont matter. he will be used like you say or taken out by the NWO powers that be. regardless who wins, there will be a wall of martial law thanks to the conveniences Obama has made being a stooge for the British Empire aka king of the north.




            • Bklyn Kevin

              I think you hit the nail right on the head when you implied john is not paying attention.

            • John

              Yes there will be a significant crash, but according to Benjamin Fulford, a journalist who seem to have insider information, the US military want Donald Trump to become president and they have told Obama not to interfere. And according to his sources the NWO gang is loosing the power and they are in panic mode.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              If this information is accurate then that only gave the elite / NWO gang as you say, all the more reason to take Donald trump out.

            • 1914for100Alex

              I don’t doubt that the military would prefer Trump over Hillary, but since when has Obama cared what anyone else thinks? He’s a narcissist. Someone telling him how he should do his job would just give him more reason to do the opposite. If you’re implying that there would be a military coup if he didn’t listen, maybe that could happen, but I think it would end like Turkey did. You’d have a group that would have it in them to actually follow through, but a bigger group that would either be against it or chicken out. A lot of people talk tough, but when it comes down to doing something that would amount to treason if they failed, they realize that maybe it’s better to err on the side of self preservation and go with the winning team.

            • John

              You know, what is interesting as i have heard, Erdogan is really upset with USA, because he knows CIA was behind the coup. But it failed. Instead he has now become friend with Russia. Some sources even say that the Russian specnaz forces knew in advance about the plot and rescued Erdogan.

            • 1914for100Alex

              He does seem to be cozying up to Russia. The lines are being drawn and so far it looks like Russia, China, Iran and probably Turkey are going to be playing for the same team.

          • 1914for100Alex

            No offense, but every president in recent history has been associated with the antichrist or some such thing. I think you’re trying too hard to make The Donald fit prophecy. Will he play a part if elected? Maybe. But I don’t think he’ll be THE guy.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            Who Will Be the Next President of America??????????.
            QUESTION: Since, the citizens of the United States (not me) will be electing a new president this year and in view of the coming World War III, whom do you believe will be the next President correlating with Bible prophecy to bring about World War III? I know the Father puts it into the minds of the Wild Beast to bring about his day, but just wondering who do you think the next president will be, possibly this will be last president during the coming great tribulation and Armageddon.

            Read more.>https://e-watchman.com/next-president-america/

            • John

              Donald Trump

            • Bklyn Kevin

              It’s just Like Roberts said.
              There is no way of knowing these kinds of details. I certainly do not use a crystal ball or Tarot cards, not that they would be of any use anyway. https://e-watchman.com/next-president-america/

          • All Trump is ,
            Is a hand picked payed distraction, (and my God it’s working) so Obama can have his 3rd term under Hillary. With the same policies, same destruction of America and moving us forward with their plans for the New World Order. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3f7f3a62f83a7f7b8f38f82497ad0b1d76c85800cbb582e809c6b53b61bec5ed.jpg

            • There will never ever be a chance to make America great again, the damage is done & our fate sealed……. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/414de2c00f21660e63735627f8d48b7d22c5f0a4537ca74d518305b90ee8d53a.jpg

            • ewatchman

              There is some question whether Hillary is going to be able to finish out the race. She is apparently suffering some pretty serious health problems. If she has a catastrophic health crisis before the election it is not out of the realm of possibility that Obama could just cancel the election, declare martial law and stay in office. Trump has already made it clear that he is going to stop the insane drive to provoke a nuclear war with Russia . If there is even a remote possibility that Trump might win then the powers that be will have to take him out, one way or the other.

            • That sounds logical, and not surprising at all. I wouldn’t put it past them to even infect her with something to finish her off. After all we are dealing with sycophants.

            • 1914for100Alex

              If Trump gets elected, they’ll JFK him. He’s too much of a threat to their little game.

            • Leonard k

              I never took trump serious but he gained a lot of support and yes he looks like he could win but even if projections say he will win one way or the other they will probably just stop him right in his tracks. I think the easiest way for Obama to stay in office is to use some major event to suspend the elections and declare marshal law.

            • 1914for100Alex

              At this point, I’m willing to believe anything could happen. This has been the craziest election cycle I’ve ever seen. I laughed at the idea of Trump lasting even a month, and here he is the Republican candidate. And then there’s Hillary. The election, in my opinion, is hers provided an election happens. She just seems to fit the doomsday bill better. As I stated in another thread though, what will be will be. Whoever gets elected will surely do something (or continue doing something) to get us on the pathway to WW3.

            • Leonard k

              don’t count Obama out yet after all his job is not finished yet he’s very busy crashing the economy while trying to usher in this one world government while pushing Russia and china around and his ultimate goal will be ww3. once he has completed all that well then just maybe he will let office go.

            • John

              Those powers are not anymore in charge, US military is not anymore obeying them. Instead Pentagon is getting together with Russia.
              You can listen to Benjamin Fulford and get the latest developments.

              And that is how it should be, because those powers that have ruled from behind the scenes are Babylon the Great, the Khasarian maffia headquartered in New York.

            • John John, with all due respect to you, please refer to the BIBLE only when trying to gauge the systems end. Never ever ever put you trust in humans to guide you through. Especially when it comes to date settings, you’ll be sorely disappointed.
              “Jewish-Canadian conspiracy theorist and notorious fantasist Benjamin Fulford employs an otherwise jobless, delusional Serbian bum (a former drug dealer) living near Fulford in Tokyo to “star” in various videos with him, posing as the “Grand Master of the Illuminati”. Fulford and this Serbian nobody plagiarise the material made freely available by us on this website and sell it in plagiarised books and to subscription-paying suckers.

              Fulford is a liar, fraud, con man, charlatan, Narcissist, fantasist and criminal plagiarist. He is the uttermost scum, swindling weak-minded people.”
              (Not my words )

            • LW

              This reminds me of my comment where I pointedly said in no uncertain terms that the vast majority of these so-called “alternative media” sites put out disinformation . Now every new update is posted on YouTube, but it’s interesting most people in the comments are fed up with his promises and declare him to be false.

            • John

              That was harsh accusations. I doubt you are right. Might be you are spreading really heavy false accusations against him.

              Remember those who are true whissle-blowers get the worst opposition. That is how it has always been.
              The Bible has many examples of that.

            • Sorry John, not my opinion or my words. All you have to do is Google him. It’s okay, I fell for my share of alternative media guru’s.
              Thanks for trying to warn us though, your intentions are commendable!

            • John

              Yes I know you can google and you will always find people that do their best to discredit anyone. I don’t think you can find anyone who is not a target of slander and attacks if you have spread your ideas on the internet.
              So peoples opinions have little weight. If you want to get to know something you have to think for yourself and and gather a lot of facts from different sources and have God’s help to discern what is really true or false.

            • John

              Then which claims of Benjamin Fulford are true or false, can you tell me and give me?

            • Leonard k

              I was not aware of Hillary’s health problems but many questions remain about the email scandals and her Character. clearly she has lied many times over and some how I don’t think she will be making it into office for the presidency. as far as trump is concerned yes just like you said Robert they will take him out one way or another. I trust my Intuition and I Believe that one way or the other Obama will stay in office. we have all seen many things within Obama’s administration in particular all these new bills he has signed into law assuring him a tight hold on the presidency and making it all look perfectly legal. we have all seen Obama’s pattern and we can certainly seem his illegal ground work. Obama shredded the constitution and tossed it out while at the same time signing his own bills into law turning this government into a TOTALITARYAN government world wide. it will be very interesting to see what will come next concerning the up coming elections the biggest question on my mind is how will Obama stay in office what will he perhaps use to suspect the elections if indeed that is how it may come to pass. or will he just find ways to take Clinton and trump out of the elections? it will be very interesting to see no matter what the outcome.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Believe it or not, I think the Hillary supporters actually admire her ability to get away with everything. There’s no other explanation for it. She’s as crooked as they get. She’s the perfect successor to Obama in terms of sinking the ship.

            • Leonard k

              yes that’s very true but I think her power struggle is about to come to an abrupt end.

        • Volcanic

          sawwy :'(

          • oh i was just being funny. i think you knew John mite go on an erroneous conspiracy ride

      • Bklyn Kevin

        The Kings of the North and South Read more>

        Daniel and the Time of the End.
        Articles examining the prophecy of Daniel and its meaning for our day. Also see the chapter Daniel . https://e-watchman.com/daniel/

      • John

        Den 21 aug 2016 00:59 skrev “Disqus” :

        • Volcanic

          that statement needs qualifying, John. I presume you are a baptised Witness & I am at pains to understand why you are not convinced. Everyone on this site seems to realise that the things Bro Robert explains are probably some of the best explanations of Jehovahs word that we have in this present time, followed of course, on this site, by Bro Bklyn Kevin & the other brothers with their deep knowledge of Scriptural matters.

          It appears to me that although you are knowledgeable in certain areas you are ‘stretching’ the Scriptures a little probably – although as a sister it is not my place to tell you & I will leave it to the Brothers to debate with you further.

          It has been pleasant & eye opening too having a small debate with you, so I thank you, John.

          • John

            Well dear sister, every Christ’s slave is accountable to Jesus Christ directly. So my service in giving knowledge about God’s word is paralell with Robert King.

            • Volcanic

              so you are saying you are an anointed/chosen one then, John?

            • John

              As you ask directly, I have to say yes publicly.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I guess you will be the slave that Is beaten with many strokes due to your contrary teachings.

              August 10th, 2011|Bulletins|

              …in the 12th chapter of Luke Christ specifically said of them: “Then that slave that understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do in line with his will,
              will be beaten with many strokes. But the one that did not understand and so did things…

              Read more> https://e-watchman.com/2-the-governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses/

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya John, it says in Acts1:7 It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction. As you recall, Jesus said those words to his disciples (Anointed) when they asked him about restoring the kingdom of Israel. Just like in Eden when the first pair was told not to eat from the tree they weren’t to consider something that did not belong to them as good…longing for it but which God had placed in his jurisdiction because such action is viewed as being rebellious. Also Jesus did not have the authority to give the disciples the information they wanted from him and it did not belong to them to know it either. We cannot get to know the times or seasons which belong to God and instead we’ve been given signs and events which indicate the nearness of God’s Kingdom…even Satan would like to know! 1Peter1:12
              Would like to add that I got this information from Perimeno’s site where he covered the topic you’ve been discussing on this site. It’s under the heading, ‘It does not Belong’.

            • LW

              Agreed, but it seems we can agree that while things have been held off from occurring, it would appear with all of the things now happening that we are on the verge of these major events

            • 1914for100Alex

              Now you did it…

            • 1914for100Alex

              Parallel with Robert? Sounds more like you’re throwing down the gauntlet. You guys don’t really agree on much.

            • John

              Actually not that bad. Have you discussed with other anointed on the internet? Nobody is yet agreeing with each other. The knowledge will increase as the prophecies go into fulfillment. Once Robert was even hinting in an article that Donald Trump could be a fitting leader for the end time.
              Some things are harder to accept in advance. Somethings you accept only after the fulfilment when there is no other way left to understand, if you are honest and humble. Like Jesus apostles that only after his resurrection accepted that he had to die for our sins.

            • 1914for100Alex

              I’ve read things by others that say they are, but no, I’ve never discussed anything with them. I’ll admit that you have a point that not everyone is in agreement, or fully understands everything otherwise there would be a consensus on things. That being said, I have to go with my gut and also take into consideration what led me here. It wasn’t a normal experience. I was absolutely guided here. I’ve done my share of surfing the net and reading explanations of what the Bible is trying to say, and sorry, but I’m not feeling it with what you’re saying. It’s too far off into conspiracy theory land for me.

            • 1-Cor 13:12

            • 1914for100Alex

              Regarding your point about Trump, whoever it is that’s president in the end times will be “fitting”. I know what you’re saying, but I could say the same about Hillary. I actually think she’ll do more damage, but what I or anyone else thinks is irrelevant. Whoever is president at that time will fulfill whatever their role may be, be it large or small.

            • Beverly kenyon

              Hiya John, just wanted to say I enjoyed reading some of the interesting points you put I your recent posts. It certainly had people having a vigorous debate with you and I also hope you enjoyed engaging with the knowledgeable ones here on this site….maybe you have no one else to be able to talk to about your opinions regarding how this system is going to end so I really do hope you found speaking with others enjoyable….at least one good thing shone through in that you know about Jehovah and his purposes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion without being labelled as having a mental illness…and until you personally know a mentally ill person who could also be a family member no one will truly know what it’s
              Iike for that person…it leads to isolation for that person because mental illness is still stigmatised. I hope John you continue to keep your faith.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              John said “So my service in giving knowledge about God’s word is in parallel with Robert King. End quote.
              I hardly see your word’s paralleling Robert King’s word / work, in fact most of what you stated here on his site is contrary to Robert’s work / Bible.
              Perhaps you should go back to the watchtower and buy some more oil for your lamp before It completely goes out.
              PS thank you for the good laugh.

            • personally i couldnt recommended the Watchtower’s oil after knowing it has is been contaminated, unless the persons argument is actually idolizing ‘the Watchtower the Watchtower, the organization the organization’ – Jer 7:4. we know when Jesus cleans house, anyone pro Watchtower will die from the bitter message of wormwood.

              Acts 18:26
              Mark 9:40


            • Bklyn Kevin

              I wasn’t referring to the Watchtower’s erroneous prophecies which are surely tainted but to their basic truth which apparently John desperately need’s in light of his confusion concerning basic truth.
              PS whether we like it or not that is still Jehovah’s temple until Jesus comes in his authentic parousia and says different.

            • i knew you wernt telling em to go learn whats wrong. i know the WT is Jah’s until Jesus judges it.

    • 1914for100Alex

      September 23 2017? Had to do a little research, but is this what you’re referring to :

      “This sign plays out in the heavens on September 23, 2017 when the sun goes down in Israel. That day is Tishri 3 and the Fast of Gedaliah.”

      Regardless, I have to reply with Mark 13:32-33

      “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. 33 Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.”

      In other words, beware of date setters.

      • John

        Dear Alex, Mark 13: 32-33 does not aply to setting the date when the 1260 days begin. Because that scipture aplies to the day when the last remaining anointed are caught to heaven. And that day remains unknown. That will happen sometime after the 1260 days

        • 1914for100Alex

          It appears we have a completely different understanding of all this then.

        • Bklyn Kevin

          Mark 13:32 “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.

          The bottom line is If Jesus doesn’t know the day or hour nor do the angels but only Jehovah,
          how would it be possible for anybody to know? Unless you are Jehovah himself.

          However all though

          {it is possible to discern the events that will take place during that hour} it would still be impossible to pinpoint that exact day in which it would start because only Jehovah knows the day and hour as well as chooses it.

          The great tribulation which is 3 1/2 years or 1,260 days starts in the middle of the week and then gets cut short by five months or 150 days in the second half of the week on day 1,110 at which point the chosen ones will give a final witness for five months only to be put to death on day 1,260 at the end of the second half of the week at this point the chosen ones will be resurrected in a blink of an eye and Armageddon ensues.

          Revelation 9:5/10/11 .Also, they have tails with stingers like scorpions, and in their tails is their authority to hurt the people for five months.
          They have over them a king, the angel of the abyss. In Hebrew his name is A·badʹdon, but in Greek he has the name A·polʹlyon.

          Revelation 16:14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
          Revelation 16:16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon.
          Revelation 19:19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the one seated on the horse and against his army.

          Excerpt from A Great Tribulation https://e-watchman.com/a-great
          The coming tumult will far exceed the horrors of the previous global conflicts —bringing mankind face-to-face with extinction, in what Jesus referred to as a great tribulation. According to Jesus unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved.

          You know the old saying , “think outside of the box”, well in this case you not only have to “think inside the box” but also respect its perimeter.
          The box being 2,520 days or 7 years, because that’s what the scriptures allude to.

          Read my comments for more details on the subject.>
          The meaning of the 7 times of Nebuchadnezzar’s madness?

          • John

            Brother Kevin,
            I believe the 150 days in Revelation 9, the 5 months the locusts tormented the people was about the Russian airwar against ISIS and other rebels. Amazingly that air campain lasted exactly 150 days, without exterminating ISIS nor the rebels. You can say they where only tormented.
            So next should happen the cavalry war of two myriads of myriads. That equals to an army of 200 million soldiers. Guess what, China has a huge surplus of men, that could be sent to war. The surplus of men is a result of the one child policy they have had.

            I believe this is the same mighty nation Joel prophecied about.

            In recent days I have heard about China’s intentions to assist Syria in a more tangible way.

            • then youre saying the GT already began and Russia is God’s chosen locusts and since that air-strike has been long over with, so has the 150 days an we’r way past the day of armageddon. seeing how Jesus frees the locusts from the abyss then your saying the parousia already took place also so we all missed it and nothing to keep awake for.

              think about how way off that sounds.
              your imagination has gone wild

            • John

              I don’t know what you are talking about? The locusts is the first woe, the 200 million cavalry will be the second woe, and the third woe will be the war at Armageddon according to Revelation chapters 9 to 11.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              If what you said was accurate then Armageddon SHOULD / WOULD have ensued immediately after the 150 days or five months.

            • John

              Why that.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              144,000 sealed and the Revelation of Christ Read more> . https://e-watchman.com/144000-sealed-and-the-revelation-of-christ/

              During the conclusion the Devil will go off to wage war against the remaining ones of the 144,000. He will be allowed to go so far as to conquer and kill all of the holy ones— all 7,000 of them. In this way the Devil’s world will be called to make an account before God for all the spilled blood of Christians and the shed blood of Christ himself.

              Once all of the living sealed ones have been changed then the marriage of the Lamb will take place. In that way all of the 144,000 will be joined together, as if in the clouds – united with Christ, who himself is spoken of as coming on the clouds of heaven.

              When all the holy ones are joined with Christ then the battle of Armageddon will commence and all of those who are on the side of Satan and his beast and who persecuted and killed the brothers of Christ, or who approved of their killing, will be destroyed and the curtain will come down on Satan and his world. And a new world will begin.

              (There are a number of articles on this site that discuss this in more detail. Will Christianity Survive the End of the World? The Revelation of Christ and the Two Witnesses and the chapter on Revelation)

            • John

              That can not be the case, not all annointed will die. Jesus made it clear forexample in the parable anout the virgins. 5 foolish that survived till the end but where rejected and 5 wise that waited at Jesus’ arrival and where taken along.
              And apostle Paul also said not all will die, but will be changed.

              Also the following instructions Jesus gave to the anointed the day they are caught up to heaven show that at that last day on earth the anointed have to follow those instructions, otherwise they will be counted to the foolish virgins:

              17:31“On that day let the person who is on the housetop but whose belongings are in the house not come down to pick these up, and likewise, the person out in the field must not return to the things behind. 32 Remember the wife of Lot. 33 Whoever seeks to keep his life safe will lose it, but whoever loses it will preserve it alive. 34 I tell you, in that night two people will be in one bed; the one will be taken along, but the other will be abandoned. 35 There will be two women grinding at the same mill; the one will be taken along, but the other will be abandoned.” 36— 37 So in response they said to him: “Where, Lord?” He said to them: “Where the body is, there also the eagles will be gathered together.”

              And logically it is only after they get to heaven that they will glow shining. The anointed will not before that walk around with glowing faces as Moses did after he had been at the top of mount Sinai and met Jehovah.
              Likewise the anointed have to get to heaven first, then they will be clothed in glory.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Its basic common sense….. If all the anointed / 144,000 are going to heaven then surely all must die physically.
              However when they do die physically they are resurrected in a twinkling of an eye during the last trumpet.

              1 Corinthians 15:50 .
              But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
              52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed.

            • John

              Don’t overlook verse: 51 Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed,

            • Bklyn Kevin

              John with all due respect you are lost concerning this subject.
              lost definition:
              off track, disorientated, having lost one’s bearings, going around in circles, adrift, at sea, astray.

              I have provided some links below to help you further understand the subject.
              Search results. https://e-watchman.com/?s=Vegetation+of+the+earth&lang=en

              Search results for: Five months

          • Volcanic

            2,520 days/7 years,Kevin, where does that come from? Is this the total time from the beginning of the tribulation to the complete finale of Armageddon?

            I read somewhere on this site that 1,335 days was the entire time from when the Kingdom is established to the end of Armageddon, (I think it was on Podcast #72) so that is why I can’t understand the 2,520 days.

            These numbers of days confuse me a little still, I do know I have much

            more studying to do.

            I would love it if we had a very simple table of explanation,

            1,335 = the entire time from when the Kingdom is established to the end of Armageddon,

            1,290 days = modern day disgusting thing put in place

            1,260 days =

            the middle of the week =
            5 months =

            etc., etc.
            Sorry to be a nuisance, Kevin.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              It’s not what I’m suggesting, that’s what the bible is suggesting

              I’m just saying I’ve noticed whether it’s 70 weeks of years or a literal seven years Jehovah always seems to stay within his divine boundary of seven when accomplishing his purpose, so then why wouldn’t it be the same for the tribulations

              I think the Tribulation refers to a full seven year period while the “Great Tribulation” refers to the second half of the Tribulation witch is three and one half years.

              Lets say that the great tribulation is going to be 3 ½ years like the bible clearly states, then how do we explain Daniel’s 1,290 days as well as his 1.335 days which go over the 3 ½ year time period?.
              Obviously It just does not make any sense at all unless you use a seven year time period or 2,520 days .

              Now 2,520 Days equal
              Seven years and is symbolic of one Biblical week. See Daniel 9:24-27.
              There are 70 weeks that have been determined for your
              people and your holy city.

              First half of the week is 3 ½ years or—–1,260 days
              Second half of the week is 3 ½ years or-1,260 days
              Now add > 1.260 days +1,260 days—-= 2,520 days

              Now subtract Daniel’s 12:11 prophetic days -1.290
              that would mean the disgusting thing gets put
              In place In the first half of the week on day = 1,230

              In the first half of the week on day 1 – one of the heads of the wild beast will be inflicted with a sword-stroke only to revive and put the disgusting thing in place on day 1,230 and misleads everyone on the earth.

              Let the reader take note that the interval between the wild beast
              sword-stroke and the disgusting thing being put in place is the beginning of the time period for meting out divine justice when the four apocalyptic horsemen ride and men become faint out of fear because of the anguish of the nation’s not knowing the way out. Luke 21:25-27 Revelation 6:1-4.

              All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
              Matthew 24:8

              It misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the
              signs that it was permitted to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it
              tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. Revelation 13:14.
              And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they
              will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation. Daniel 11:31.

              The disgusting thing that causes desolation will be put in place on day 1,230 in the first half of the week when the seven headed beast revives and springs into the eighth king. Revelation 17:11. At this point – Daniel’s 1,290 days begins.

              Read “my comments” for more details on the subject.>
              The meaning of the 7 times of Nebuchadnezzar’s madness?

            • Volcanic

              superb, Kevin, thank you so much, I really appreciate all the work you have done typing this out for me.

            • i think its based from Lev 26:18-28 but also just a lot of seven in scripture. it would be nice if the tribulation days arnt that long. guess will know for sure when the seals are open

    • Balaam’s donkey

      I’m in agreement with other replies here. “Date burps” are stinky. I appreciate your sincerity and zeal, but I also stay away from divination and anything that reeks of dates.

      My prayer is that every person on this planet has the sense to recognize Jesus when he comes (either by the signs if we are not of the little flock or by his visible presence if you are a chosen one) Staring at “Virgo constellations” may be the distraction that obstructs your vision of faith.

  • Burt Reynolds

    Forgive me all, but I really think the balance is being lost here. No one knows the day or the hour. Full stop….or period for you American brothers. Who is next president of the United States does not matter a fig. It’s not our war. Full stop. Period. And like it or not, Jehovah will make fools of us all, some without any help from Jehovah. If anything is going to be proffered, then let it be from the bible, otherwise we are going to descend into rifts and name calling. None of us know. None of us are worthy, plagued as were are by sin. I find it really upsetting when rivalries as to who is right or wrong come into this site but if we stick to the bible, we will stay on course.

    • LW

      There is nothing sadder than misguided expectations and either way, things will still develop to accomplish Jehovah’s purpose. It’s evident though that we are close and as long as we keep paying attention than we will be ok.

    • Searcher


      “It does not belong to you…” (Acts 1:7)

      Our heavenly Father Jehovah is a generous God, who “furnishes us all things richly for our enjoyment.” (1 Tim. 6:17) For example, consider the abundant variety of foods available to mankind, such as vegetables; cereals; fruits; nuts; herbs; even milk and honey; and the many wonderful things that can be made from them like bread and oil and juices; — yes, foods and drinks that are not only nutritious and delicious, but can also be blended in endless combinations to satisfy every one’s taste. Compare that with the simple vegetation diet on which most animals exist. It clearly demonstrates the great love that our Creator has for mankind.

      Upon creating Adam, God told him: “Here I have given to you all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To you let it serve as food.” The account in Genesis goes on to say that “Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree desirable to one’s sight and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.” (Gen. 1:29; 2:9) Adam was permitted to eat the fruit of every tree in the garden, with just the one exception, for God told him: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” (Gen. 2:16,17) 

      Clearly, Adam had everything he needed in the way of food; he did not need to eat from the one tree that God commanded him to stay away from, not even to touch it. (Gen. 3:1-3) The tree of the knowledge of good and bad belonged to Jehovah, he did not give it to man for he kept it “in his own jurisdiction.” To eat from the tree would be a violation of God’s clearly stated command, and an act of rebellion against God himself — the penalty for which would be death. (Acts 1:7; Rom. 5:12) 

      It was Adam’s wife, Eve, who first ate from the forbidden tree when she was deceived by Satan posing as a serpent. (1 Tim. 2:14; Rev. 12:9) Eve then offered the fruitalso to her husband who accepted it, for it appeared “good for food and something to be longed for to the eyes.” Thereby they both turned their backs on their Creator. And, as God had warned, they eventually died and returned to the dust from which they were created. (Gen. 3:6-19; 5:5)

      What could possibly have induced Adam and Eve to violate God’s clearly stated command not to eat from the one tree that was out of bounds for them? They lacked nothing! After all, they were permitted to eat from every other tree in the garden, including the “tree of life” that was in the middle of the garden, the fruit of which represented their right to life as long as they continued obedient to God; just as the tree of the knowledge of good and bad represented God’s right to tell them what is good and bad, and the consequence for disobedience, namely death. Upon sinning, God removed them from the garden in order to prevent them from eating any further from the tree of life, to which they had now lost access. (Gen. 2:9, 16,17; 3:24; 1 Cor. 15:22; compare Rev. 2:7; 22:1,2)  

      We certainly do not want to be like Adam and Eve; and yet there is the danger that we too may be deceived into considering something as “good” — yes, “something to be longed for” — but which God “has placed in his own jurisdiction,” and therefore does not belong to us; and the reaching out for it would be just as rebellious as in the case of Adam and Eve. 

      The resurrected Jesus had shown himself to his disciples throughout forty days as proof that he had risen from the dead and to strengthen them. The time had arrived for him to ascend to heaven, and thus he was meeting with his disciples for the last time. Of course, they still had many questions regarding the kingdom that he had promised them and commissioned them to preach to all the nations. And so they were moved to ask: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” It is natural to want to know when certain events will happen in fulfillment of God’s promises; but Jesus’ blunt answer may have surprised them when he told them: “It does not belong to you to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction”; or as other translations say, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.” (Acts 1:3, 6,7; Matt. 24:14; Luke 9:1,2; 12:32) 

      Jesus was not about to divulge the Father’s times or seasons, not only because it did not belong to them to get that knowledge, but neither did he have the authority to provide that information. In fact, Jesus had told them earlier that even he did not receive that information from his Father. (Matt. 24:36) It goes without saying that since Jesus himself did not know “that day and hour,” there is simply no way of calculating it, and searching for it in the Scriptures would be futile. But even more serious, it would be rebelling against God to try and get hold of the forbidden knowledge that we are told does not belong to us but to God alone. This is not any different from the command that God gave Adam and Eve regarding the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Like in their case, Satan can make something that is forbidden appear to be very attractive, even beneficial for us, so that we may be tempted to want to reach out for it. Even Satan himself would love to have that knowledge, for it would enable him to more effectively oppose God’s kingdom. (1 Peter 1:10-12; Eph. 3:8-11)  

      Charles Taze Russell’s attempt to calculate the times or seasons for the establishment of God’s kingdom went directly contrary to Jesus’ words. While he believed that Jesus had returned in 1875, he also had reckoned, according to his figures, that God’s chosen ones would be taken up to heaven in 1914 to join Christ in his kingdom. Not surprisingly, this proved to be a great disappointment for everyone who put his trust in his prediction but still remained on earth by the following year. Yet, the succeeding president of the Watchtower Society, Joseph Rutherford, stuck with Russell’s date of 1914, while at the same time discarding most of Russell’s other teachings regarding God’s “Divine Plan of the Ages.” As Jesus had said, we cannot get to know the times or seasons which belong to Jehovah alone. Rather than being able to calculate a date, we have been given signs, events, which, when observed clearly indicate the nearness of God’s kingdom; especially the prophecies that are fulfilled in connection with God’s household in the last days. (Luke 21:28; 2 Tim. 3:1-7, 13) These signs are recorded for us in the Scriptures to familiarize ourselves with. Jesus told  his disciples: “Notice the fig tree, or any other tree. When the leaves come out, you know without being told that summer is near. In the same way, when you see the events taking place that I’ve described you can be just as sure that the Kingdom of God is near. I solemnly declare to you that when these things happen, the end of this age has come.” (Luke 21:29-32, TLB)

      We anxiously await “the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels,” while in the meantime we lean on Jehovah to provide us everything we need to help us endure, and to keep our faith in his promises alive. James writes that “every good gift and every perfect present is from above, for it comes down from the Father of the celestial lights.” (James 1:17) Our hearts fill with gratitude for Jehovah’s many provisions; while at the same time we do not desire the things he has said do not belong to us — the things he has kept for himself.  

      “Keep yourselves in God’s love, while you are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view.” (Jude 21)

    • 1914for100Alex

      I’ll drink to that. Tea of course…unless Joseph S. shows up. Then it’ll be a cold one! I can only imagine how this election stuff must look across the pond. It’s inescapable here. I look at it like anything else in life. Anything can happen, but it’s human nature to speculate. Not from a religious standpoint, but from a human curiosity standpoint (although many people do both). You’re right that it doesn’t matter and that that same curiosity/speculation can develop into something worse. I’d hate to see that happen here myself.

    • Just keep swimming!

      1 Corinthians 13:1-3. Thanks Burt.

  • LW

    The Watch Tower of July 15, 1915, published the story of a Hungarian soldier who was baptized while recovering from his injuries and who later returned to the front lines. The account relates what happened next: “They [the Hungarian soldiers] came within 800 feet of the Russian line, and they received the command, ‘A bayonet charge!’ The Hungarian brother was at the end of the left wing. He sought only to protect himself from the enemy, hence endeavored merely to knock the bayonet from the hand of the Russian with whom he was confronted. Just then he observed that the Russian was endeavoring to do likewise . . . The Russian let his bayonet fall to the ground; he was weeping. Our brother then looked at his ‘enemy’ closer—and he recognized a ‘Cross and Crown’ pin on his coat! The Russian, too, was a brother in the Lord!”

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  • Delete-Hannah—- On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:53:45 -0800 Disqus wrote —- “मेरा नाम जूलियन है, 9 महीने पहले मेरे मंगेतर ने मुझे एक और लड़की के लिए छोड़ दिया और मुझसे कहा कि उसने कहा कि वह मुझसे फिर से शादी नहीं कर सकता किसी भी और। मुझे नहीं पता था कि मेरे दोस्त तक क्या करना है भगवान काकूब ने अपनी शादी में मदद की। मैंने ई-मेल के माध्यम से भगवान काकाबा से संपर्क किया और मुझे यह नहीं बताया कि क्या करना है और कितने घंटे बाद Derick मेरे ंगेतर ने मुझे फोन किया और मुझे उसे क्षमा करने के लिए डेटिंग करना शुरू किया और फिर मैंने आपको अपना रास्ता बना लिया ई-मेल के माध्यम से भगवान काकूबू: lordkakabumiraclework@hotmail.com”  Settings   A new comment was posted on e-Watchman This comment has been flagged as spam, and is awaiting moderator approval. Julian मेरा नाम जूलियन है, 9 महीने पहले मेरे मंगेतर ने मुझे एक और लड़की के लिए छोड़ दिया और मुझसे कहा कि उसने कहा कि वह मुझसे फिर से शादी नहीं कर सकता किसी भी और। मुझे नहीं पता था कि मेरे दोस्त तक क्या करना है भगवान काकूब ने अपनी शादी में मदद की। मैंने ई-मेल के माध्यम से भगवान काकाबा से संपर्क किया और मुझे यह नहीं ब ाया कि क्या करना है और कितने घंटे बाद Derick मेरे मंगेतर ने मुझे फोन किया और मुझे उसे क्षमा करने के लिए डेटिंग करना शुरू किया और फिर मैंने आपको अपना रास्ता बना लिया ई-मेल के माध्यम से भगवान काकूबू: lordkakabumiraclework@hotmail.com 6:53 p.m., Tuesday Nov. 7 | Other comments by Julian       Moderate this comment by email Email address: julianray3015@gmail.com | IP address: Reply to this email with “Delete”, “Approve”, or “Spam”, or moderate from the Disqus moderation panel.       You’re receiving this message because you’re signed up to receive notifications about activity on threads authored by ewatchmandotcom. You can unsubscribe from emails about activity on threads authored by ewatchmandotcom by replying to this email with “unsubscribe” or reduce the rate with which these emails are sent by adjusting your notification settings.

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