You Will See Your Grand Instructor

//You Will See Your Grand Instructor

Friday, July 29

Teach me to do your will, for you are my God. Your spirit is good; may it lead me on level ground.Ps. 143:10.

Although Jehovah makes his counsel freely available, he does not force anyone to follow it. We need to ask for his holy spirit, and he will give it to us generously.  It is essential, though, that we ‘pay attention to how we listen.’ For example, it would be hypocritical to ask Jehovah for help to overcome an inclination toward immorality while continuing to look at pornography or watch immoral movies. We actually need to put ourselves in places or circumstances where Jehovah’s spirit is. We know that his spirit is at the congregation meetings. Many servants of Jehovah have avoided disaster by listening to Jehovah during our meetings. As a result, they have become aware of wrong desires developing in their heart and have corrected their ways.

Commentary

God has a purpose. Jehovah’s Witnesses have always understood that. For example, we know it is Jehovah’s purpose to establish a new world, where peace will always prevail. A world without poverty, sickness or even death. Prior to the end of this present world and the beginning of the new one, God’s purpose is to gather a great crowd of people who will survive the end and populate the new civilization.

It would be a wonderful privilege to be one of those survivors. And to be sure, no one will survive by their own efforts. There is no bunker, no state-of-the-art bomb shelter that can shield one from Jehovah’s superhuman angels when the time comes for them to exterminate this ungodly civilization.

Those who will come out of the tribulation are described in the seventh chapter of Revelation as having washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. In other words, they have taken a certain course prior to the tribulation; namely; washing their robes, signifying that their faith in Christ has made them clean in God’s eyes. And yes, God’s spirit will have been instrumental in leading them to that point and beyond.

But there is another aspect of God’s purpose though. And as Jehovah’s Witnesses also know, it has to do with the sanctification of God’s name and the vindication of his sovereignty, made necessary by the rebellion against God instigated by Satan.

In the book of Job it was further revealed that Satan, also known as the Accuser, contended that Job —and by implication me, you and everyone else —will not be loyal to God if made to suffer because of it. To allow the Devil to try and prove his accusation Jehovah permitted him to bring all manner of suffering upon Job.

But, of course, the issue was not settled with finality then. That is why Jehovah also allowed Satan to tempt, test and even torture Jesus, his most beloved Son. But it didn’t end there either. Just moments before he was arrested Jesus told Peter that Satan had demanded to have them, the disciples, in order to sift them as wheat; in other words, to temp, test, torture and even kill.

With the aforementioned in mind, consider where we stand now with respect to the ultimate fulfillment of God’s purpose.

The Watchtower has assured Jehovah’s Witnesses that by following the program provided, by regular meeting attendance, field service along with personal study and prayer, our salvation is assured. That is not to suggest that there is anything wrong with the “program” as such. However, is that all there is to it?

Jehovah’s Witnesses have been led to expect that the nations will soon destroy false religion and then when the hordes under the authority of the nefarious Gog attack Jehovah’s people, then God will instantaneously respond and annihilate the attackers. All Jehovah’s Witnesses have to do is stick close to the organization and listen to the life-saving instructions that the Governing Body will issue during that critical time.

But what about the issue —the issues Satan has raised? As mentioned, Satan is the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them night and day before God. Should, we suppose, though, that his accusations are totally unfounded?

Consider the setting in which Jesus told Peter that Satan had demanded to have them to shake and rattle them. Prior to Jesus’ arrest the apostles were always at Jesus’ side. When they had doubts Jesus reassured them. When they were perplexed and confused, which was frequently, Jesus patiently explained things to them. However, there was one thing that Jehovah concealed from them —the reality of Jesus’ death.

It was not that Jesus never mentioned it. On the contrary, Jesus plainly spoke of this impending death and resurrection, but they were not allowed to grasp it. God’s spirit did not open their minds. Here is what Luke 9:44-45 says: “‘Listen carefully and remember these words, for the Son of man is going to be betrayed into men’s hands.’ But they did not understand what he was saying. In fact, it was concealed from them so that they might not grasp it, and they were afraid to question him about this saying.”

Although Jesus exhorted them to listen carefully to his words, they could not comprehend what he was saying. Only later, when the resurrected Jesus rebuked them for being senseless and slow in heart to believe the prophets, were they able to understand. But why, why was it concealed from them in the first place? It was so that their faith could be tested in Jesus’ absence. Do you see where I am going with this?

None of Jehovah’s Witnesses can deny that the Organization is all imposing. It absolutely dominates their faith. It would not be too difficult to make the case that the faith of Jehovah’s Witnesses is inseparable from the Watchtower. And no doubt the Devil has been the unseen promoter of the Organization as indispensable —even as the virtually infallible mouthpiece of Jehovah. And it is not without precedent that the demons would seemingly, highly recommend Christ’s spokesmen as servants of the Most High. 

Conversely, while cunningly elevating the Organization to an inordinate place of importance in the minds and hearts of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a place reserved exclusively for God and Christ, it does not require a great deal of imagination to envision the Devil accusing Jehovah’s Witnesses of idolatry and of blindly following men.

Just as the apostles were ignorant of the reason Christ’s impending death had been concealed from them, likewise Jehovah’s Witnesses have no concept of their situation with respects to the sanctification of God’s name.

But the prophecies speak very plainly, provided one has ears. The 30th chapter of Isaiah is one aspect of prophecy. Consider the following verses: “For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, the Holy One of Israel, says: ‘By returning to me and resting, you will be saved; Your strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust. But you were unwilling. Instead, you said: ‘No, we will flee on horses!’ So flee you will. ‘And on swift horses we will ride!’ So those pursuing you will be swift. A thousand will tremble at the threat of one; at the threat of five you will flee until what is left of you is like a mast on the top of a mountain, like a signal pole on a hill. But Jehovah is waiting patiently to show you favor, and he will rise up to show you mercy. For Jehovah is a God of justice. Happy are all those keeping in expectation of him.

When the people dwell in Zion, in Jerusalem, you will by no means weep. He will surely show you favor at the sound of your cry for help; he will answer you as soon as he hears it. Though Jehovah will give you bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression, your Grand Instructor will no longer hide himself, and you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes. And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, ‘This is the way. Walk in it,’ in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left. And you will defile the silver overlay of your graven images and the golden plating of your metal statues. You will cast them away like a menstrual cloth and say to them, “Be gone!’”

The prophecy foretells a time when God will subject his people to oppression and distress —obviously during the great tribulation. Contrary to the demon-inspired delusion that Jehovah’s Witnesses will be passive bystanders and that God will intervene at the first sign of trouble, that the Watchtower will be in the forefront issuing life-saving direction, the prophecy says that God will feed his people “bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression.”

The reason ought to be clear. If not, it will be in the future.

God will require that his people demonstrate their faith in him directly —apart from the Watchtower. It is in fact, in reference to the Organization that God’s redirected people will reject, seeing their former devotion to it for what it is —idolatry.

Given Bethel’s tendency to compromise even in relatively favorable times, no doubt they will seek a human savior then — as if fleeing on swift horses down to Egypt. Perhaps the leadership may then presume that their having been in a partnership with the UN from 1992 through 2002 might afford them some advantage. It will not. Their pathetic, helpless plight will be on full display then, as if a lone “mast on the top of a mountain, like a signal pole on a hill.”

The point at which your Grand Instructor reveals himself so that “you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes” will be accomplished by means of the visible, revelation of Christ, who is in fact, Jehovah’s Wonderful Counselor.

Putting the pieces together, those who will ultimately make up the great crowd of survivors will be those who listen to the voice of God as if emanating from behind them, beckoning them to turn around, to repent, and walk in a new course. Then God will teach us to do his will completely and the holy spirit will be poured out in full measure and our eyes will be opened to the whole truth, as verse 26 goes on to foretell: “And the light of the full moon will become like the light of the sun; and the light of the sun will become seven times stronger, like the light of seven days, in the day that Jehovah binds up the breakdown of his people and heals the severe wound from the blow he inflicted.”

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2017-06-23T13:47:26+00:00 July 29th, 2016|Commentary|140 Comments
  • Andres Felipe

    Hola a todos. Estuve en la asamblea con mi hijo y definitivamente la organización es magistral a la hora de decirnos como pensar y actuar . Eso sí , sin que nadie se de cuenta , promueven la alabanza e idolatría a la organización. El video sobre la gran tribulación muestra que sin la dirección y guía de la organización no es posible sobrevivir . Que blasfemia! !! Ciertamente será muy extraño las acciones de jehova para con su pueblo! !!

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      some one translate this

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      Sorry you have already done so.

  • Andres Felipe

    Hello everyone.I was in the meeting with my son and definitely the organization is masterful when it comes to tell us how to think and act .Of course, without anyone noticing , promote worship and idolatry to the organization.The video about the great tribulation shows that without the direction and guidance of the organization is not possible to survive .What blasphemy !!!It will certainly be very strange actions jehova for his people !!!

  • LW

    Will be interesting

  • Burt Reynolds

    I feel, no, I am convinced, that the blindness of the witnesses is the result of the total stranglehold that Satan has over them. How then do we reach them to pluck them off the drunken vine before they are fully fermented? We know that the conditioning, the constant battering thrown at the flock by the watchtower creates a mindset that is near impenetrable, yet, how else would the prophesies spoken of above come to fulfilment were this not to be the case. Otherwise, where would be the test? We see that Satan elevates the watchtower to the very throne of Jehovah and the position of Christ and makes of the witnesses, unwitting idolaters. Even at the time of the Ten Commandments being served on the Israelites, they were at least aware of their idolatry; they chose to create the golden calf, having seen first hand the strength of Jehovah not only in his deliverance from the hand of pharaoh, but also in the parting of the Red Sea, and in the provision of manna. But one might assume that the witnesses are blinded to their course of action by the watchtower who tell them it is all good. As I was reading this very heartening article, I read it through the eyes of the witness and stopped at the point where it is written that Satan accuses the witnesses of idolatry and of blindly following men. This is the point where the blinded may well close the page for the very reason that the watchtower has arranged things so that to the witness, it is a conformation or accusation of apostasy. As many have not the wit to see the loving provision the scripture is making here, and the reasoning upon it I wonder how we may get through to them. Maybe when the chosen ones go in to preach to them, but even then, if the nation of Israel is to be an example, I’m not so sure. If one is so fixed in unreasoning blindness that the parting of the sea, and food appearing, and pillars of fire by night is not enough, then what is? You would think that the watchtower building an edifice to the grandure of the governing body, on poisoned land at Warwick and claiming Jehovah’s blessing on them might be a clue…

    • Thinking

      But when it came to making the choice..the greater part of the Isralites stood behind Moses…that has to mean something for our day to..hey Burt…

      • Burt Reynolds

        Good point. Let’s hope that’s the way it pans out.

      • Important message…..
        Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    TO,

    RESPECTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF THIS SITE

    This article I enjoyed a lot. THIS TASTES LIKE HONEY. Yeah this an another super article done by Br.Robert. See here in this article it is openly explained about:-

    1. Jehovah feeding his people “bread in the form of distress and water in the form of oppression.”
    BUT WTS HAS OPPOSITE TEACHING , that Jehovah’s Witnesses will be passive bystanders and that God will intervene at the first sign of trouble, that the Watchtower will be in the forefront issuing life-saving direction. BY DOING SO WATCHTOWER IS NOT PREPARING JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES
    TO FACE THE REALITY YET TO COME. OH MANY WILL LOSE FAITH AND GET STUMBLED.

    2. There was one thing that Jehovah concealed from them —the reality of Jesus’ death. It was not that
    Jesus never mentioned it. On the contrary, Jesus plainly spoke of this impending death and resurrection, but they were not allowed to grasp it. God’s spirit did not open their minds. THE SAME THE TRUE WITH JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES TODAY BUT MANY JW’S WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THEY ARE BLINDED BY THE WTS ITSELF. OH HOW SAD IS THIS.

    3. Elevating the Organization to an inordinate place of importance in the minds and hearts of Jehovah’s Witnesses, a place reserved exclusively for God and Christ IS A TYPICAL POINT TO BE NOTED. OH THIS IS THE WORK OF SATAN. OH HOW CUNNING IS SATAN THAT HE IS USING JEHOVAH’S OWN PLACE AS IDOLATRY.

    4. Just as the apostles were ignorant of the reason Christ’s impending death had been concealed from them, likewise Jehovah’s Witnesses have no concept of their situation with respects to the sanctification of God’s name IS A SAD THING TO DIGEST BY THE BELIEVERS IN WTS THAN JEHOVAH AND CHRIST.

    5. God will require that his people demonstrate their faith in him directly —apart from the Watchtower, i don’t know how many will do so at that time. BUT IT IS A GREAT POINT THAT BR. ROBERT HAS BROUGHT OUT.

    6.THE SADDEST AMONG THE MANY POINTS THAT BROTHER ROBERT HAS BROUGHT OUT IS THAT THE WTS ALWAYS SAYS THAT UN IS A BEAST AND DISGUSTING THING. But at that time Bethel’s tendency to compromise even in relatively favorable times, no doubt they will seek a human savior then — as if fleeing on swift horses down to Egypt. Perhaps the leadership may then presume that their having been in a partnership with the UN from 1992 through 2002 might afford them some advantage. It will not. Their pathetic, helpless plight will be on full display then, WHICH IS SHAME FULL ON THE PART OF WTS.

    BUT THE BEAUTIFUL AND HAPPIEST PART IS THE ENDING THAT IS your Grand Instructor reveals himself ……by means of the visible, revelation of Christ. Those who will ultimately make up the great crowd of survivors will be those who listen to the voice of God as if emanating from behind them, beckoning them to turn around, to repent, and walk in a new course.

    THE HAPPIEST AND THE ULTIMATE ACCOMPLISHMENT WHICH I LOVE THE MOST IN THIS ARTICLE IS IS THAT God will teach us to do his will completely and the holy spirit will be poured out in full measure and our eyes will be opened to the whole truth.

    BUT AMONG THE HAPPIEST POINTS ISAIAH: 30verse 26 IS A LOVELY SCRIPTURAL POINT.

    So the point is that before getting into Jehovah’s new order one has to sacrifice and accept the bread of distress and water of oppression from Jehovah rather than the assurance WTS because Satan has over reached them. this article build faith in Jehovah but the assurance of WTS will make us to stumble when faced with reality which is yet to come. Yeah that’s true even in our OLD KANNADA PROVERB IT SAYS: KAI KESARAADHARAY BAAI MOSARU which means if your hand becomes muddy your mouth will get curd. It means work hard then only you will get food in your mouth. Yes one has to go under tribulation and show faith in Jehovah and Jesus if you want to attain everlasting life and paradise not with the the assurance and assistance of WTS.

    LASTLY I WANT TO TELL BROTHER ROBERT THAT NOWADAYS MANY OF THE POINTS WHICH YOU PUBLISH IN THIS WEBSITE I AND MY WIFE ARE USING IN THE FIELD SERVICE AND THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ALONG WITH ME AND MY WIFE SAYS THAT WE TWO HAVE AN UNIQUE KNOWLEDGE. OH THE CREDIT GOES TO YOU NOT FOR ME AND MY WIFE.

    Any way thanks brother Robert for bringing out these many points MAY JEHOVAH THROUGH JESUS GIVE YOU GOOD HEALTH AND LONG LIFE SO THAT YOU WILL BE AMONG US UNTIL GREAT TRIBULATION BECAUSE I BELIEVE AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION YOU WILL NOT BE WITH US EVEN IN PARADISE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE BECOME ONE OF THE BROTHERS OF CHRIST AND AN ADOPTED SON OF JEHOVAH IN HEAVEN SITTING IN THE THRONE AS I REALLY BELIEVE AND RESPECT YOU AS AN
    ANOINTED ONE AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF 144000 FROM THE WAY YOU ARE EXPLAINING
    THE SCRIPTURAL POINTS WHICH IS ALWAYS UNIQUE AND INCOMPARABLE EVEN WITH WTS.

  • i had spoken to some sisters out in the field with a publacation booth in the morning of this text.

    Ones responce:

    “we dont question the Watchtower”

    “that already happened in the past”

    “tribulation begins with the harlot of faults religion being destroyed”

    • Shelley.

      Thank you for the scriptures.When I first started to study I was very interested in phrophesy.I read the orgs.Isaiah,Daniel and Revelation publications.They left me with more ?s than they answered.I was so confused but then I read Brother Kings work and all of a sudden the lights came on.Now things make perfect sense.I thank Jehovah for Brother King.

      • yeah i remember sitting at book study and reading Jehovah is the prince of princes and i was like whau 0_o an the explanation was lame

    • sally

      Yes thank you for the scriptures. I hope someone will be able to explain this to me. I read 1 Thess chapter 5 in it’s entirety and noted verse 12 through 14 where it said 12 Now we request you, brothers, to show respect for those who are working hard among you and presiding over you in the Lord and admonishing you; 13 and to give them extraordinary consideration in love because of their work.+ Be peaceable with one another.+ 14 On the other hand, we urge you, brothers, to warn* the disorderly,+ speak consolingly to those who are depressed,* support the weak, be patient toward all.+ I get so confused because this suggests that the GB and anointed should be obeyed?

      • Volcanic

        dearest sister, there will be lots of things that confuse you yet, but don’t worry, it will all come out in the wash.

        My answer to you regarding this, although someone more advanced will answer you better, is to quote Matthew 23 vs2 through 5 also bear in mind v13 – well, in fact, why not read the whole of Matt 23?
        As to the GB as Jehovahs spokespeople, we do need to show the proper respect, however, we also need to accept that they do have many things wrong, we need also to accept that satan is blinding them. The basics are there though in 1 Thess, regardless of who says it – show respect, speak consolingly, support the weak, be patient etc. Ultimately we are obeying Jehovah.

      • “as far as it depends on you be peaceable with one another”

        “do as they say but not as they do”

        “we are followers of God rather then men”

        be sure to read James.

        soon it will change and anyone following Jehovah will have him first and will disobey those leaders just the same after pentecost when Jehovah poured out his spirit. for now just “put up” whith them best you can

        • ok im done editing that an hour later

        • LW

          Bring it on

      • Bklyn Kevin

        Listen to the last quarter of pod cast 41 for more information regarding your question
        Starting at time set 420.
        https://e-watchman.com/podcast-41/

        • sally

          Thank you to ALL who has responded to my question. I have been given much studying to do for this evening when I have a quiet couple of hours! I know I will find the answers within the directive scriptures/podcast. It is indeed a balancing act, one I don’t quite know how to handle yet. Especially when it comes to my study. I do not feel inclined to continue with the study at all, due to my study sister and I being on very different pages and to much of an extent, her beliefs and actions being very much a part of my uncomfortableness for several months before coming here. Still everyone here is having to deal with finding the way forward and I will do the same I am sure. I am very grateful for being here. Thank you Annie 🙂 I actually don’t know what I would have done in the longer term if I had not found this place.

          • Volcanic

            sweetheart, carry on with your study, it is important that you get a grasp of the basics from your study sister. If you feel very uncomfortable then just ask for someone else to study with you instead. You can pad it all out when you come back here for more answers.

            Don’t thank me, I was only directed to post what I did, Jehovah is my guide & I merely follow His instructions.
            The way I look at it is that Jehovah obviously has seen ‘something’ in each of us here (that doesn’t make us uber special btw) He has seen something in our hearts which can be moulded for the future. We are in a very privileged place, in that our eyes are being opened & as long as we continue to respect Jehovahs organisation while it is still operational, we can continue to be a part of this ‘underground’ movement.

            It could well be that Jehovah has it in mind that you are to be the one who helps out your study sister & husband in the future, don’t forget they will all be thrown into such confusion shortly & will need a level head to guide them. You do have those sort of qualities, whether you recognise them yourself or not, you are level headed & dependable & Jehovah must have a purpose in mind for you, however small a task it may be.
            Put your blinkers on, enjoy your study, I can always help you out on FB if you need me. Learn as much as you can, progress to baptism & grow in deep understanding here. Your study is your primary schoolroom, whilst here is your University, you need both.

            Remember, we plant little seeds & Jehovah makes them grow, you are invaluable in His purpose, as we all are in some measure, even though yet unseen. xxx

      • Joe Dman

        They should be obeyed as they are taking the lead. Remember the apostles and even Christ obeyed the religious leaders of their time but boldly telling them the “truth” And stating that when told not to preach that truth, they would obey God rather than man. It appears Satan has prepared for such a telling of the truth to God’s people in our day by influencing the leadership to implement rules that would result in getting thrown out if you were to be so bold. Some of us on here, to include myself, are finding it very difficult to obey them. Their load is heavy and there is no encouragement as Christ said his load is light and not burdensome. It is as though Christ has left the building, but we will hear that voice and know when it is time to leave. But for now it is no doubt a conscience matter and one we may have to answer for if we aren’t obeying them with as much as we could. It is a balancing act indeed. So count it a blessing that Jehovah and Christ know what you are going through and they have made a way out, or a way to cope, by giving us this venue where we can receive the encouragement that they pretend to receive at the hall.
        And don’t be too discouraged if you can’t march in lock step with their orders, it seems unreasonable that your punishment would be so severe that you would lose Jehovah’s favor. No, think of how Jesus dealt with his apostles when they had a lapse in understanding and they went idle instead of taking up the torch after Christ’s death. He came along side them and disciplined them to the proper degree and they set out on the greatest preaching work that remains to this day. I don’t recall him physically beating them. Jehovah and Jesus way of correction reminds me of when my daughter was little. She was daddy’s girl no doubt and when she did something that she thought upset me and I confronted her, she would be devastated and cry as though I had beaten her. Her fear was displeasing me. So if you have or will have such love for Jehovah and Christ, you will be devastated when you realise how you’ve displeased them. But if history is any guide, you’ll get the opportunity to make up for it in the way you treat Christ’s brothers when they are revealed. It will be rough but on the other hand, the most Joy you will ever experience in being part of the action in supporting Christ. As Robert brought out: “God will require that his people demonstrate their faith in him directly —apart from the Watchtower.”

      • Daisy

        The second letter Paul wrote to the Thessalonians mentions the man of lawlessness in context to Christ’s future presence. When writing his first letter to them, the Thessalonians were a small group still probably meeting in houses as a congregation and not giving Paul sleepless nights as did the wayward corinthians and some others, can’t be sure, maybe Ephesians, so Paul’s request to show respect to those presiding only applies if they are in fact presiding “only in the lord “which we know isn’t the case preceding Christ’s parousia. Hope that makes sense as I’m a bit confused myself 🙂

        • Burt Reynolds

          How are things for you today Daisy? I’ve just been walking and contemplating, seven miles worth of contemplating! And my feet ache. Ended up in Margate so walked back to Westgate and then back home. I spent yesterday Facebook witnessing. It’s a rich stomping ground but some people are very hard hearted and so blind, even if they had eyes their mental faculties are not there to comprehend what they see. I read a quote the other day that said….people would rather choose to search for an excuse to support their own beliefs, than confront the truth of what is before them. Still, it’s a way of witnessing but I get more flak than I did at the doors, but witnessing on ex JW sites what can one expect? Apparently I am so ignorant I make people laugh, so I must be doing good……now I sound like sleeping witness. I think I might take a leaf out Roberts book and start writing to congregations. Burt’s letter to the Margateians. Verse 1. Get Ye back to the door to door work and stop hiding behind Ye carts, for thy tyres are flat, and thy words perish… Keep going Daisy. We are all wishing you well.

          • Song of Hannah

            Haha Burt you have a funny wit! Always enjoy your posts. Glad to see you making a go of FB. I’ve been trying to post links to some of Robert’s articles too, I guess we do what we can, eh? But I agree, the door to door work always seemed to be the most effective process for finding the sighing & crying. Not likely to find them full of tears at the marketplace, after all….

          • 1914for100Alex

            Funny you should mention the carts. For the past week or so I’ve seen them set up at another new location. It’s a bus stop, as usual, but with a twist. Not only are they set up at the eastbound route, but there’s another cart covering the westbound! They are literally kitty corner from one another. I’m just hoping they’re friends. I really don’t want to have to stop and break up a turf war should one of them feel the other is encroaching on their territory. I wish I had a computer. I’ve been thinking that maybe some e-watchman inspired tracts could be made and handed out to them. Especially if Kevin were to get a thumbs up from Robert on his Daniel/Revelation timeline project. Would it convince a lot of people? Probably not, but I look at it the same way as the JW’s doing their thing. They know the odds are against them, but they still try.

      • Witness for the Almighty YAH

        Matthew 15:9

        New Living Version
        Their worship of Me is worth nothing. They teach what men have made up.’

        New Living Translation
        Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God.’

        Complete Jewish Bible
        Their worship of me is useless, because they teach man-made rules as if they were doctrines.’

        GOD’S WORD® Translation
        Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.’

        1. The GB are the ‘false anointed’ ones that are misleading people now and will again in the future. (Mt 24:24) Emphatic Diaglott pg 69 http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/bsl/Library/BIBLES/Diagltt/Diaglott.pdf

        2. The ‘position’ of ‘slave/servant’ was inspired by ‘holy spirit’ but the humans occupying that ‘position’ are NOT appointed by holy spirit. The slave’ was warned against being an ‘evil slave’ because the Son of God knew they could, and based on other scriptures, knew they would become evil. (Mt 24:48-51) (Dan 11:30,32)

        3. ‘Appointed by holy spirit’ was done away with in the 1st century with the other miraculous ‘gifts of the spirit’. (1 Cor 13:8-10)

        4. Not even all in the 1st century were ‘appointed by holy spirit’. (2 Cor 11:13) (3John 1:13)

        5. They were to ‘feed the flock’, NOT ‘lead the flock’ Nowhere does it say that they have the scriptural authority to ‘lead the flock’. (Mt 24:45-46)

        6. They were supposed to be ‘servants’ to the flock, NOT ‘masters’ of their faith. (2 Cor 1:24)

        7. They are NOT to ‘lord it over’ believers. ( 1 Peter 5:2,3)

        8. They are to ‘make disciples’ of the Messiah, YAH’USHA, NOT themselves. (Matt 28:19)

        9. They are to teach the flock to obey all that the Son of God commanded, NOT what they command. (Matt 28:20)

        10. They are NOT to tell people to put trust or faith in human leaders, religious or otherwise, but by falsely claiming that they are God’s ‘spirit directed’ organization, that is exactly what they telling people to do. (Ps 146:3)

        11. They are NOT to make anyone a ‘follower of men’, but by their teachings that is exactly what they do! (1 Cor 1:12, 1 Cor 3:4)

        12. They turn converts who are ‘believers’ in God’s Word into modern day Pharisees who believe in them. (Mt 23:15)

        13. They teach others to disobey the Almighty when they discourage ones to ‘make sure of all things’ and be like the ‘Bereans’ by telling them to avoid going on the internet to ‘carefully examine the things they are being taught to see if they are true’. (1 Thess 5:2) (Acts 17:11)

        14. They lyingly state that anyone who disagrees with their false teachings is an ‘apostate’, when in reality, an apostate is someone like Salomon who left off serving the Creator to serve Satan. (1 Kings 11:4,8)

        15. When they do correctly teach ‘commands of God’, then we are ‘obeying God’, NOT themselves, who are ‘deceiving’ themselves into ‘thinking they are something’, but are ‘nothing’ in the eyes of God… who knows they are nothing but wicked humans! (Acts 5:29) (Gal 6:3)

        See my other comments at https://disqus.com/by/kevinb1914/

        • i dont agree fully with some of your points.

          (i dont feel up to typing at the moment)

    • i spoke to other sisters out in service just the other day who argued that ‘the Watchtower literature is inspired’, yet i asked them has the Watchtower been wrong? to which they replied yes.

      i guess with prophecy, that is Jehovah causing to become, Jehovah just cant seem to make up his mind what he means.

      go figure

  • Burt Reynolds

    Hello Robert, back in 2014 you made a bulletin on the move to Warwick and that this intended move would not occur. What is the situation at present please?

    • Ez ch17 “will it not dry up…?”

      • Burt Reynolds

        Hello D34, yes, a good scripture and prophetic as to what we are looking at here, but Robert said that the move would not take place. I am in a bit of a quandary over it. It’s different from saying it will not succeed.

        • the Warwick project will fail in the manner Jehovah said it will fail. Robert didnt say the move wouldnt take place. their already moved in but not moved out of Brooklyn

          • Burt Reynolds

            If you look at watchtower review, bulletin number eight last paragraph where is says loosely put that the intended move will not take place. I just want an update on this thought because I am not sure I understand it.

            • ok i will take a look. i reviwed the video again but hadent reread the bulletin.

            • 1914for100Alex

              For those following along, the relevant scripture Isaiah 19 states:

              “In that day there will be an altar to Jehovah in the middle of the land of Egypt and a pillar to Jehovah at its boundary.”

              In my opinion, as long as that building says Watchtower on it, Robert’s interpretation would still hold some water. They don’t necessarily have to be occupying it for that “pillar to Jehovah” to still exist. How many times have we seen buildings sit there empty with an old sign on them? I’m not saying it will happen that way, but who knows? A crisis could hit that puts the plans to alter the building on hold. Either that, or a big earthquake hits and the eastern portion of NY, right up to Warwick falls into the ocean (Sorry Bklyn Kevin!)

              If none of that happens, Warwick isn’t that far away from the present location. I agree that it doesn’t fit as well with the definition of a “boundary”, but it’s not like they moved to Nebraska.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Well I don’t want to scare anybody but the watchtower / Bethel is the world head quarters of Jehovah’s witnesses and Daniel did specify that the disgusting thing that causes desolation would be put in place for 1,290 days , and this has to take place before the watchtower completely moves out I would guess in order for the prophecy of Daniel to be fulfilled.

              Now if the watchtower does completely move out to Warwick and reestablishes It’s new HQ their before Daniel’s 1,290 days are fulfilled, I would have to assume the same opinion as you.

              Perhaps brother Robert could elaborate on this point?.

              Daniel 12:11
              And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days.

              Daniel 11:31
              31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature.
              “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.

              Daniel 8:11
              11 It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army, and from him the constant feature was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down.

            • i’ll elaborate.

              United States – Egypt.
              New York – boundry.

              Amos –

              “I will also call for an accounting against the altars of Bethel; the horns of the altar will be cut off and fall to the earth. I will strike down the winter house along with the summer house. The houses of ivory will perish, and the great houses will come to their end,’ declares Jehovah.”

              https://e-watchman.com/warwick-headquarters/

            • Burt Reynolds

              You didn’t elaborate enough for me D34. Can you give your thoughts on what you are quoting here please? Robert said in his comments that he could say with the conviction of a prophet that the watchtower would not move into their new palace. Such a statement to me implies some degree of insight and I would like to know what such insight means. Yes I appreciate the point you make that everyone is entitled to a mistake, but it is not the fallibility of anyone that I am questioning, it is the substance of the insight, the biblical reference or analysis that sponsors such a statement and it is that, that I would like to know. Bklyn Kevin was going down that road so I would like to discuss the issues further if at all possible. This isn’t the latest video, this is the one from 2014. Thanks all.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Hannah gave us some further insight on another page which I greatly appreciated.

              Excerpt:
              Song of Hannah • 6 months ago

              When I was reading this, the thought occured to me that the “winter” and “summer” houses might be representing a stream of time, the summer house being Warwick. https://e-watchman.com/warwick-headquarters/#comment-2816627091

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Kevin, I have read this again and looked through the video that Robert did at the bottom of it. However, Robert did say in his article on the subject in 2014, in the bulletin, number 8, that with the certainty of a prophet it would not happen. But then again, in the video shown in the article you directed me to, Robert suggests that the move is doomed to failure, which of course is a more open statement. In the references to Egypt and moving out, I don’t know if it is an irrelevant point, but the distance of Warwick to New York to me is negligible. Not only that, but as this is the first time I have come across this reference in these terms or interpretation, it is somewhat new to me. Summer and winter houses…..well, there are so many watchtower properties to choose from. Maybe it was a mistake to say that with certainty the move would not occur, or maybe I see a reference in it that no one else sees, but all I am asking for is some sort of biblical clarity as to what view we should take now that the move has clearly happened. I suppose a lot of this issue stands on whether indeed, the conjoining of Egypt with NY is in fact correct anyway. I do. To see any reason why it should not be, but if it is not, then clearly the issue of the Warwick question is wrong. Perhaps we can look again at the scriptural evidence for this? I would be interested to see your work on Daniel also when it is is finished if I can be included. Many thanks.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Hi Burt.. I’m a little bogged down right now, I forgot how time consuming is to watch a child.
              However I will go over your points later on this evening as I am not quite sure of your question.
              P.S. when the timeline is done I will share it with everyone.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Kevin, thanks for your reply. I suppose my question is that if Robert is wrong about the move from Brooklyn to Warwick and it is going to happen, what is the true meaning of the scriptures he refers to. Take your time with the children, I’m festooned with three grandchildren tomorrow but fortunately I have a good psychiatrist.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Looks like you beat me to it LOL!

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I think your question is best suited for brother Robert to answer since he’s the author of those thoughts.

            • 1914for100Alex

              I’m going to make some assumptions here, so if anyone involved sees something that is incorrect feel free to correct me:

              I believe what Burt is trying to say is that Robert seemed sure that the move wouldn’t take place, but now it is. Robert said that because of his unique perspective that he was quite certain it wouldn’t happen. Burt is trying to figure out if Robert said this because there is scripture backing it up, or if it was just a hunch. If it’s the latter, then it’s open to human error. If it’s scriptural, then Burt would like to know what’s going on.

              My personal opinion? If they fully move, Robert made a mistake, but they’re still in NY so I think the prophecy fits. If they’re still there, then Robert got it right.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Thanks for the interpretation of Burt’s dialog .

              Burt has the gift of being multitasked with his thoughts, I wish I had that ability… For me it’s just one thought at a time.

              However I’m going with your opinion because it makes the most sense, as you said both locations fall within the “perimeter” and that coincides with the scripture at Amos 3:

              Amos 3:14

              For in the day I call Israel to account for all his revolts,I will also call for an accounting against the { altars of Bethʹel: }
              The horns of the altar will be cut off and fall to the earth.

              Notice it says ” alters of Bethel “, so that means more than one location.

              15 I will strike down the winter house along with the summer house.’‘
              Notice it says” winter house along with the summer house”.

              Again more than one location.

              .{The houses of ivory will perish, And the great houses}
              will come to their end,’ declares Jehovah.”

              And again more than one location is mentioned.

              This scriptures indicate to me that the watchtower on a worldwide scale is going down simultaneously regardless of their locations.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Good catch. That does make a lot of sense. Isaiah 19 references where the “pillar to Jehovah” will be located. Pillar possibly meaning support, which you could interpret Bethel to be. Bethel holds the organization together, but it won’t be the only thing/location affected.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              “POW”

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes. I agree with that development of thought Kevin and 1914. Thank you for your assistance on this. Perhaps then this is new light as it is a development of thought and not a change of thought and we and especially I, must be accommodating and humble in the face of one’s efforts to instruct the flock. It’s great to learn and see the outworking of Jehovah’s purpose. Thanks again.

            • 1914for100Alex

              You’re welcome. I sometimes wonder if that’s why Robert doesn’t always reply (not that he doesn’t have other things going on lol). Maybe he wants us to try and work things out, or search it out here. I actually learn better that way rather than having someone just giving me the answer. I know I’m guilty of asking questions that have already been answered elsewhere. With a little effort a lot of things we might be wondering can be found. I understand the reasoning for your question though.

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              A lot of us are used to being spoon fed. It’s good to dig ourselves…and having answers isn’t always the point. The process is the point for me…it builds faith.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Everybody digest spiritual food at a different pass.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Burt, please see my reply below to Kevin. I’d like to know if I have it right.

            • sally

              Hello Burt, at the convention last weekend they said the move was to take place in January 17.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Thanks Sally, that’s good to know.

            • Oh wow, just a few days before war monger Hillary Clinton takes office. ??????

            • Sam

              Hi Burt, from what i understood from what Robert wrote is that the “altar” is said to be located on the boarder of Egypt=New York City. It is also referred to as “the city of tearing down” due to the fact that N.Y. is home to the London appendage of Wall Street which serves to tear down america. So Roberts statement was in view of the fact that the altar would be in that very location at the time of Jehovah’s executing judgement. I believe Isaiah chapter 19 is what is being discussed. I trust if I have anything wrong or I’m missing something, someone will pitch in

            • 1914for100Alex

              Yes, Isaiah 19 is the correct chapter. You mentioned “the city of tearing down” which is NY. I find that verse fascinating. It makes me wonder where the other four cities are going to be? No doubt they’ll be spaced apart throughout the U.S., but it will be interesting (to say the least) to see that take place.

              Isaiah 19:18 – In that day there will be five cities in the land of Egypt speaking the language of Caʹnaan and swearing loyalty to Jehovah of armies. One city will be called The City of Tearing Down.

            • Sam

              It’s definitely a fascinating prophecy. There’s much I don’t quite understand, it’s going to be quite a thing to witness these prophecies unfold

            • Joe Dman

              It would be interesting to know if all departments are moving or if they are going to maintain a presence in the city. Is the notorious “Watchtower” sign still there? Daniel 7:25 says that the last king will intend to change times and law. Law being a prophetic statement? The beast that Daniel is referring to is the one that will rise up, so before his receiving the death blow, he could be at work preparing for his re-emergence and his intent to “change times and law”. If I remember correctly, in a recent article Robert mentioned that the leadership would not accept Christ so maybe they are in place and they are unwittingly helping in the effort to change times and laws, but like anything Satan has done to try to upset Jehovah’s purpose, Jehovah will have something in place that will prove himself true. We may not even see it even though it is right in front of us.
              Does the presence of Christ and Satan being cast down call for same day wars to break out? Even some of the talking heads are claiming that America’s transformation is complete and the current president, being a pawn for the elites in London, has put the framework in place and just waiting for the official title transfer if you will.
              OK, I’m just the village idiot that keeps spouting off irrelevant stuff, but like in the movies, it may spark a thought in one of you who has a brain for figuring this stuff out. I’ll go back to my corner now.

            • LW

              Whoa whoa, that’s some heavy stuff right there. Question: Who are these talking heads? I have heard something that essentially the Plan for America as it relates to the creation of the NWO is complete. Would that be an accurate statement in your opinion?

            • Joe Dman

              The main one is Glenn Beck.If you don’t listen to him and all you know is what you’ve heard others say, then you’ve probably dismissed him. It’s like saying, Jehovah’s Witnesses are a cult. Also, Brad Thor, the author and even The President himself claims to have achieved his goals and it’s clear he has. Did you see the recent video that someone posted here concerning the laws he recently signed in to place that targets Christians? Also, Michael Savage says it’s over, America doesn’t exist as it did, there’s no hope. Then he turns around and says that Trump could turn it around but he’s doubtful. And there’s one of Robert’s favorites to link to, Lyndon LaRouche who hasn’t said it in so many words but does sya that if Obama isn’t impeached there will be a thermo nuclear war and what’s the likelyhood of him getting impeached? He goes on to accuse The President and Britain of being pawns of Wall Street who are determined to cause a thermo nuclear war to subdue China and Russia in order to prevent them from leading the world with a monitary system that they plan to replace the dollar with. Of course Robert points out how the use of the American military is under the direction of London based Oligarchs and will be used to play a roll in the collapse of the current economic system in addition fulfilling prophecy of the beast receiving the sword stroke. Look at the way the President talks, he throws caution to the wind and sides with protestors. It’s as though he is trying to spark a civil war here which would fulfill the prophecy concerning “Egyptians fighting Egyptians”. It’s all set up like a box of dominoes laid out and ready for the first one to be pushed over. What or who is going to push it? So my point is if the WT has or will move before a war on earth happens, could Satan have been thrown down and he just hasn’t shook off his being body slammed to the earth but that he’s about to get his bearings and start swinging? I should have researched those scriptures to see if it is possible so that’s why I called myself a Dunce, I was talking without looking at Robert’s explanation of the scriptures that lay it all out. But all of this seems a mute point for the time being as Sally just pointed out that they announced at the convention that the move would not take place until January 2017. So there’s nothing to see here folks, let’s just all go home. But it was fun trying to figure it all out huh?

            • 1914for100Alex

              “Egyptians fighting Egyptians” is exactly where things are going. When I first started posting here I mentioned that it feels like things were being sped up, meaning the stupidity and lack of common sense. And to see the “smart” people that are running the show act as though nothing’s wrong, and in some cases encouraging that stupidity? Well, it’s almost surreal to watch it taking place. None of this is normal, and how people can’t see that just blows me away. I’ll be amazed if we don’t see another race war…right in between the bathroom war and safe space war.

            • Joe Dman

              If we were watching a movie with this plot and watching their diabolical plan being played out and gave a review we would probably rate it a 1 on the believability scale. Just not possible. Its like watching Rambo standing in a boat in the middle of a river taking fire from dozens of bad guys, killing all of them and never getting hit. He’s fired hundreds of rounds out of a 20 round clip.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Exactly. I almost added to my comment the fact that if anyone had predicted this a few years ago, they would be looked at like they were crazy. Now the people that would have laughed it off are all in and don’t realize just how crazy they look. If that isn’t an indication that we’re not in Kansas anymore, I don’t know what is.

            • LW

              Heh yeah. One of the assembly talks a few years ago said that when Jesus hurled Satan to the earth, it was like he took Satan and flung him downward like a paper airplane lol. That would cause a crater for sure…

            • 1914for100Alex

              That makes sense. Here’s what Revelation 13:3 says:

              I saw that one of its heads seemed to have been fatally wounded, but its mortal wound had been healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.

              Key word being “seemed”. To me that implies that the collapse is quite possibly intentional. A controlled demolition of sorts. Think about it. The American people, as well as the rest of the developed world would never accept the level of cutbacks needed to get us back on course. And the rich and powerful would never be willing to relinquish their power. It’s a recipe for disaster, and the people at the top are going to do what they have to do to stay on top. It will be one big reset, and the people at the top will be looked at “admiringly” for saving them. I can only imagine what it will be like for anyone questioning the motives of this admirable “beast”.

            • Joe Dman

              Just watched that video and the subsequent one that played after where Jim Rogers (who has a home in Singapore) stated that America is no longer free. If we are no longer free, and I emphatically agree, then it goes along with the point I was trying to make earlier, and put another way, the great Egyptian cedar is looking like that tree you’ve been chopping on and you can’t figure why it hasn’t fallen. There’s only a toothpick size piece remaining and all it takes is someone or something to push it.

            • Witness for the Almighty YAH

              1. When Satan and his wicked spirits are thrown down to the earth, the first thing that the prophecy mentions is that God’s ‘woman’ will be persecuted. (Rev 12:13) I believe this is when the ’10 days of suffering’ will occur. (Rev 2:10)

              2. I also believe that there will be other things happening as well, such as the wicked spirits creating a fake ‘alien invasion’ to cause a satanic panic among people. Then on the 45th day after the ‘death stroke to the US, the fake ‘2nd coming of Christ’ will occur. That is the same day the the despicable NWO will be put in place to begin the final ‘1290 days’.

              3. That is when the King of God’s Kingdom will begin His ‘ride on His white horse to complete His conquest’. Then the rider of the fiery red horse will ride for ‘peace to be taken away from 1/4th of the earth, so that they may slaughter one another’. That is when ‘nation will war against nation and kingdom against kingdom’.

              4. Then the Russian ‘bear’, and the 4 European Nato nations ‘leopard like beast, with its ‘four heads’ of Germany, Italy, France and Spain, will be ‘plucked’, with their governments removed. This will make way for the ‘little horn’ of luciferians to lead the NWO from the US after it satanically recovers from its ‘death stroke’. (Daniel 7, Daniel 8:9-13, 23-25) (Rev 13:3)

            • idk Burt. everything is falling into place with world events daily. i personally dont see things going for much longer without a cash crash and war. seems to me that the Watchtower will be operational in some fashen durning the tribulation till the disgusting thing from the abyss gets put in place. im no expert. i just cry to Jehovah that he take care of us. but i will be happy when Jesus judges Bethel

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello 1914. Thanks for your assistance with this. I can agree the issues raised by Kevin. See my note to him. Thanks.

            • Witness for the Almighty YAH

              1. New York City is the ‘great city’ in Revelation that is literally the financial and immoral capital of this satanic world. It is figuratively called ‘Sodom and Egypt’ because Egypt was the financial center of the middle east in the 1st century, while Sodom was the infamously immoral city destroyed by the Almighty YAH’UAH in ancient times.

              2. The ‘Two Witnesses’ will be taken out of the ‘holy city’ of spiritual Yahrushalom, where they will have been ‘prophesying’ for the previous ‘1260 days’ and killed by the US ‘beast that comes out of the abyss’. Then their dead bodies will be left outside of spiritual Yahrushalom, just as their brother, the Son of God, was killed outside of physical Yahrushalom in the 1st century (now incorrectly and unscripturally referred to as Jerusalem, even though there is no ‘j’ sound in Hebrew or Greek). (Rev 11)

              3. Their corpses will be left on the ‘broad way’ or in the ‘public square’ of the ‘great city’, New York City.

              Rev 11:8 New International Version

              Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city–which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt–where also their Lord was crucified.

              Strong’s Concordance ◄ 4113.
              plateia ►Definition: a street, public square, broad way.

              4. The corpses of the ‘Two Witnesses’ of YAH will not be allowed to be buried, although they may be in a glass enclosure, either on Broadway or in Times Square in NYC, while everyone on earth ‘rejoices’. (Rev 11:10)

              5. After 3.5 literal, solar days, God’s spirit will enter them and they will come back to life to ‘stand on their feet’ before being ‘called up’ to heaven in front of everyone that is watching, including those in the spiritual ‘city’ of Yahrushalom as well as the NWO devil worshiping enemies of the ‘Two Witnesses’. (Rev 11:11)

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello Witness, I enjoyed your comments and have read the scriptures you offered. There is one point though I would like to bring to your attention about the bodies of the two witnesses being left in Times Square. I don’t know if you have an apocrypha in your bible, but if you look at the book, Simeon’s letter to the Spanish Congregation in Tiberia, you can get all the more detail on this. It discusses the two witnesses and notes that ; ‘ they shall not act, neither will they enjoy the praise of others but they shall be mocked and taken up to the high alter where with flat rods of iron they shall be beaten, but their pathways will not be smoothed for them.’ Thus it cannot be Broadway where their bodies lie and it appears that it is not in fact Times Square where this will take place, but on the roof of the Flat Iron building at the side of Times Square. The scripture goes on to show their lack of burial; ‘in the manner of the godless one shall they be remembered and their demise at the hand of the righteous will forever lie exposed upon the alter so that all who are seeing, may know.’ Thus from this we can see that they will erect a mausoleum on the top of the Flat Iron building, in the same manner as Lenin has in Red Square. Times Square and Red Square are not the same though. However, we know this refers to Red Square because the ‘godless one’ is shown to be Lenin in Russia at the beginning of the times of the end. We know this because the scripture says; ‘and the godless one will Be abandoned by the King of the south and he will set up a mighty nation against her, though will allie with her twice more…’ Thus we can see that Russia killed the czar who was a close relation of the royal family in England but supported England in two world wars.

            • Witness for the Almighty YAH

              Hahaha… maybe the pharisaical cult will go over that in one of their witchy Witchtower’s ‘sigil magic’ magazines!

              But first, the Governing Bozos of the satanic Society are going to have to perform one of their daily/weekly/monthly ‘Enochian magic’ rituals before getting a demon possessed person to do some ‘automatic writing’s’ so that the ”spirit directed’ demons can give them the correct ‘interpretation’!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORDLBtVVB8
              http://christianwitnesses.com/
              http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/telenetwork/controversial.php

              Jehovah’s Underground: Host Johnny The Bethelite.
              http://sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/

            • Song of Hannah

              I appreciate your insight, Bro Kevin, and this does seem quite plausible. But also, from what I understand, the temple is God’s people themselves. And if this is the case, then the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” appears within the midst of God’s people. (I always wondered if perhaps it’s fulfillment lie in the exposing of the Man of Lawlessness himself?)

              1 Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.

              2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

              Eph 2:21 In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah.

              2 Thess 2:4 He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I believe you’re right in view of the fact that the watchtower might be moving prior to their demise to Warwick- yes it is very plausible.
              And yes you’re right the spiritual temple are the anointed and at some point they will be separated from the man of lawlessness, for sure time will disclose the absolute details.
              Sorry for taking so long to get back to you as I would like to discuss this issue further, however at present I am with my grandson be ’cause he’s not feeling well and his mother my daughter is at work.

            • Song of Hannah

              Actually that was quite a speedy reply! Seems you have your hands full this morning! ?

              You know, I keep thinking, too, that there is always the possibility that they make this move just in time – and by doing so fulfill 2 Thess 2:9-12, by attributing to themselves what’s written in Isaiah 28:15 and emboldening them to refuse to submit to the prophetic warning of Jeremiah 27:12-15. Can’t seem to get rid of this thought… the conditions just seem so ripe for the possibility. But of course it’s all a bunch of speculation and conjecture, so I am not taking myself too seriously. LOL ?

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Yes I do have my hands full and in fact for the next 10 days I’ll be taking care of Seth my grandson who recently had surgery.
              However I’m gonna ponder over our conversation concerning your thoughts as I do find your thoughts to be on point and warrant further investigation, also Hannah I greatly appreciate your scriptural reply as It will give me a basis to research.
              P.S. I did not forget about the timeline concerning the prophecies of Daniel and in fact I have been working
              on it diligently and have the big picture in my head and it’s just a matter of putting it on paper with the proper graphics and scriptures to go along with It but unfortunately I am held up at this point because quite frankly I know nothing about graphics and have to take the time to learn It in order to make a simplified comprehensible presentation.

            • Song of Hannah

              That is wonderful Bro Kevin! I am so excited that you are working on a timeline! I i’m absolutely atrocious at math, but I have a little bit of experience in graphics, I’d be willing to help if you’re needing some. You can contact me at my moniker (with no spaces) followed by the zoho.com. But I can’t thank you enough for working on a timeline! 🙂

            • 1914for100Alex

              Don’t worry about being bad at math. It seems pretty common around here 🙂

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Hannah your help would be most welcome!.
              I will contact you either today or tomorrow.
              Hannah do you have a face book account?, if you do you could look me up and send me a friend’s request. my name is Kevin Flynn.
              The reason why I am asking is because face book private messenger is pretty good and we will be able to establish a good line of communications to discuss the topic of graphics and the prophecies of Daniel as well and what could be achieved
              with those graphics. Thank you so much Hannah.

            • sally

              Wow! I am looking forward to this timeline! visual aids are so much easier to get to grips with! thank you both for taking the time to work on this x

            • Song of Hannah

              Kevin I believe we are already friends on FB. My name there is “Hannah Maiden”. Looking forward to contributing toward this project! 🙂

            • Bklyn Kevin

              I didn’t even realize, thank you for letting me know.
              I sent you a message yesterday to your book messenger.

            • LW

              They definitely know what’s coming

            • Burt Reynolds

              Those are good points Hannah. It’s making the prophesy more clear.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              When Jehovah comes with his justice as well as his righteousness the hails of truth about the Watchtower’s 1914 hoax will sweep away the man of lawlessness refuge of lies and they will be utterly crushed and their covenant with Death will be dissolved.
              Isaiah 28:17-19

            • Witness for the Almighty YAH

              The scripture at Daniel 12:11 states that from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, ie: proselytizing being banned, and the despicable thing is ‘put in place’, ‘there will be 1290 days’.

              Comparing that statement to the next verse at Daniel 12:12, it means that there will be 1290 days left until Armageddon when this happens.

              I know it might seem like a small correction, but the ‘Dragon gives its authority to the beast for 42 solar months’, which is 1278 solar days.

              This leaves 12 days at the end of the last ‘1335 days’ for the great tribulation to be ‘cut short’ and for those living that are not in the NWO army to go underground to ‘hide from the face and wrath of the Lamb’.

              Also, Shelley wrote a few days ago the following:
              “Today at my bible study, one of the sisters said that there was an
              elders meeting to discuss a ‘school for the elders’ that was to take place in the immediate future, ‘to prepare them for the great
              tribulation’.”

              The Witchtower is way up in the New World Order. In fact I’ve heard reports that the luciferian leaders that are loyal to ‘Lucifer the Devil’ are at odds and fighting with the Jesuit leaders of the Witchtower that are loyal to ‘Jehovah the Devil’. Probably fighting over who will have more power in the NWO when it is ‘put in place’.

              Supposedly, the pope met with the leaders of both groups last September in New York to try to get them to cooperate with each other and settle their differences.

              The plan, which will not happen, is for the Witchtower leaders to be in charge of the only religion that will not be required to ‘worship the beast and its image’, while the luciferians will be in charge of the political, military and satanic worship part of the NWO.

              The reality is that the foretold ‘great apostasy’ will occur and both the real leaders and their front men puppets, the ‘false anointed’, will join the New World Order completely, rather than being two separate entities as they are now. (2 Thess 2:3) (Dan 11:30,32)

              This will leave the true anointed to lead God’s people in the ‘place prepared by God in the wilderness’.

              The Witchtower leaders know what is coming to the US later this year, that is why they are rushing to get out of New York City. They had already moved the printing of the Watchtower and Awake to the Canadian branch several years ago.

            • LW

              Wow I never knew this before. I always enjoy reading your comments as they are an addendum to Robert’s articles. 🙂

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Hello Witness .
              Look I don’t want to be rude but unfortunately I must tell you the truth .
              I have read most of your comments concerning your elaboration on the prophecies of Daniel and quite frankly what you have written is nonsense.
              PS please don’t waste my time with your fictional writings as my time is valuable.

            • LW

              If they know what is coming, then we had better batten down the hatches. It’s about to go down

            • they cry out to the oppressors for a reason and its not because a our enemies surround empty air. NY is the boundry of tearing down. Bethel should have invested in fishing-poles instead of hedge funds

            • 1914for100Alex

              Things don’t look too good for fishermen either:

              Isaiah 19:8 – And the fishermen will mourn,
              Those casting fishhooks into the Nile will lament,
              And those who spread their nets on the water will dwindle.

            • yeah ive had that scripture in mind myself. the horsemen with the scales aint makin things easy is e.

              during time of war, who will be producing and manufacturing food?
              seems the context of it has to do with work . idk. if bushmen can find enough for their self, i would think finding just enough for Ones self is possible. its not very pretty; thinking what the british did to starve india. chapter King of the North tiouches on it real well.

            • 1914for100Alex

              This might give us an idea of what’s to come:

              http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/29/news/economy/venezuela-decree-farm-labor/

              It’s going to take a lot of faith to survive, that’s for sure.

            • Bklyn Kevin

              Yes Venezuela is a small preview of what’s going to take place on a worldwide scale.

            • its an excellect example

    • e.v.g

      Probably they move from Brooklyn, probably not. Is it Jehovah giving a chance to enjoy a new home?
      To be or not be, that is the question,
      Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
      The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
      Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
      And, by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep.
      Die ir not die in warwick, that is the question

      • Burt Reynolds

        I’m not sure. I want to see what Robert says because I don’t understand it.

        • ewatchman

          Well, originally they said the move would take place by the beginning of 2017. But then they really ramped the work up around the turn of this year, having volunteer construction workers pulling night shifts. So, they seem like they are in a really big rush to get out of New York City. I wonder if it was just to prove me wrong. Seems like I may have spooked them.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Okay. It was the prophet bit that got me because if it was inspired I felt I need to understand it more clearly as to its significance. D34 is right though, we do make mistakes in these testing times.

      • Daisy

        Forsooth, they be hoisted by their own petard…

  • Song of Hannah

    My dear friends, we got some shocking news tonight. Of course I can’t go into too much detail but a very faithful friend of ours may potentially be making a huge mistake in their life. Unfortunately, we are operating with limited information, so we are not exactly sure if it is truly a bad decision or not. But, given the details we do have, it sure feels bad, in our gut.

    That being said, Jehovah has called all of you all to be a guest in his tent, therefore, I know by asking you for your prayers regarding this, I am sure to get a favorable hearing before Him. Can you please pray for us, regarding this situation? Specifically, can you pray that if this is truly a bad decision, that Jehovah expose it to this dear faithful servant, before it is too late? If it is at least exposed for all it is – and they go head long into it – well then so be it. But we at least dearly hope they will be given the chance to see accurately what they are heading into, and then be able to make a good decision based on an accurate appraisal of the situation.

    I know that you would be praying with very limited information, but I am confident “the spirit itself will plead for us with unuttered groanings.”
    Thank you, dear friends. ?

    • Volcanic

      I offered my little prayer on behalf of your friend. May Jehovah help you, also help you not to worry too much. Love you xxx

    • Burt Reynolds

      I would think Hannah that such a site as this is the very place to go to seek help about friends or family, about our spirituality, needs and worries. If not, then where should we go? The problem might be felt as somewhat public being that roughly four billion people might have access to it, but the figures for this site do not bear witness to that. I think also that most, if not all parents, myself included, are busybodys but then most, if not all children make bad mistakes. Sometimes we have to let them, sometimes we need to stop them and sometimes we need to creep up on them using our discernment. If it were a spiritual matter then it may not be wise to confront doctoral matters, but the basic belief, which often remains intact, but without a suitable tether to tie it to the soul. If it’s marital, then experience has taught me that I have to wait for the dawn and to be there at the time. There are worse things and if your worry is that, then it is one of building values and gaining insight. But you know all this…the point being, there are so many out here that can pray and hope with you and in the times to come, we will need each other all the more because undoubtably the time is coming when we will not have this familial contact at our fingertips, but only our own reasoning with Jehovah for a long period of time. If we do not understand the trials of parenthood, if we cannot help each other, pray for each other and share in the sufferings of others; be there, be here, reach out and touch each other in their need, then we have lost our humanity and the very meaning and purpose that Jehovah has set before us, and thus this site would have become a playing at Christianity, a vacuous teaching that is sterile in its outworking. Anyone can quote a scripture and play at oneupmanship in their learning, but as for love, if we have not love, then our faith with out these works, is dead. I can’t cross the Atlantic right now, they don’t allow terrorists like me into the country, but if I can help, then let me know, but I am sure everyone will pray for you and your needs at this time. With love from us all…..

    • Beverly kenyon

      Hiya Hannah, I’ve just read your post where you sound upset and I don’t know what it’s about but I hope you and your family are alright. There’s NO WAY you’re a horrible busybody…the opposite actually….you’re one of the first on this site to offer kind words of support and you back it up with just the right scripture from God’s word. I won’t forget how recently you post to TLC with reassuring and comforting words backed up with that Ezekiel 34 scripture which drove home the point beautifully. So I hope you’re not very sad…you’re a lovely and decent lady Hannah. Burt in his post to you is right when he says love to you from all of us here on this site.

      • Song of Hannah

        Thanks so much Bev & Burt for your kind words of love and support! Your little messages came just at the right time and helped me get through my day. Wanted to clarify also – I don’t think I’m a busybody (well only to the extent that we all have it in us) – only that it sure sounded that way when I gave so little details! lol.

        I hate being so cryptic but we have so much to lose by being exposed – including my faithful daughter who we sadly instilled undying loyalty to “God’s Organization”. We’ve done much since to warn her (without too much detail that would set off a 3 alarm fire in her head) that persecution is surely coming and that we are convinced God is going to remove the wicked from his people that way.

        But with this new situation our heart has been beyond sad but we have been taking it to the hearer of prayer who has propped us up and helped us cope. One wonderful thing that came out of this situation, is it finally convinced my husband to dig in and read Robert’s book for himself (he’s since been just relying on me to share all I’ve been learning here) and that makes me very happy. ?

        • Beverly kenyon

          Hiya Hannah, I wouldn’t put the word busybody and you together in a million years!! Hope the difficult and sad time you and your family are going through doesn’t last long and there’s a happy ending. Your daughter is a very fortunate girl having loving parents who brought her up to love Jehovah and gave her the best start in life and are always looking out for her best interests…there’s not a lot of that in this ghastly world. Also Hannah, you’re a real mystery woman on this site as you hardly give away much if yourself…very private and discreet. It’s only recently when you were having good banter with Daisy and Burt that you gave a little bit of information about yourself…you’re like DA…no one knows anything about him! He probably is an alien! Lol. Glad you’re happy about your husband finally reading Brother king’s book but maybe he might’ve just liked you telling him because he likes you talking to him and explaining the things you’ve learned. I just know that this difficult time you’re facing will pass so keep your chin like you’ve done with all the bad times and keep going! I’m not a feminist but all the women here on this site are strong and made of steel…and Joseph’s Mum who did the best job bringing up her boys! It’s not easy for women in this unfair world but it shouldn’t define us….you got to keep going!

    • Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

      • Song of Hannah

        Ah! Thank so much! Missed the update that she changed her name. (Thought there was somthing familiar about her posts!)

  • Leonard k

    i was watching this video I could not help but think I bet you this is how we must seem to Jehovah at times always in a mess trying to excuse our way out of it. pay attencion to the little guy on the right lol.

    https://www.facebook.com/thisisiradio/videos/801797379881340/

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    According to the new August JW broadcast we “must be loyal to the faithful and discreet slave”……because “it means our very lives.”
    When I hear talks like this it sends shivers down my spine because men are exalting themselves while we should be focusing on being more loving and listening to Jehovah and Jesus….not men.
    They are truly drunk on their own wine.
    I’m trying hard to stay sober!!!

    • Sam

      That is disgraceful! Have they no fear of God? Clearly not, in fact the prophecies couldn’t be more true. “Jehovah will not do good and he will not do bad” Oh but he will

    • Kevin b

      They are gonna try to control the witnesses to the very end. They have put themselves in place of Jehovah and Jesus. They are truly drunk indeed.

  • Andres Felipe

    Que trizte ….el hermano robert quitó el blog que teníamos en español ….pe gustaba porque la traducción es muy buena .espero vuelva gracias

    • Burt Reynolds

      I don’t speak Spanish but what you say looks good to me, amigo!

    • Volcanic

      Saludos de todos nosotros, querido hermano.
      Robert está muy ocupado trabajando con un hermano español
      para traducir el sitio completo en español , por lo que tomará mucho tiempo.
      Si nos fijamos en los Testigos de Jehová el artículo que va a leer la conversación .
      Robert nos volverá muy pronto.
      Espero que todo esté bien contigo y tu familia . Por fi, enviar saludos también a tu hijo

      • Andres Felipe

        Muchas gracias hermana. Estaba preocupado por él . Gracias por información. Que jehova lo bendiga y lo cuide. Sí he extrañado toda la información en español. …no guarde nada. Saludos

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    Commenting on the original scripture for this days text: Psalm 143:10….” Your spirit is good, may it lead me on LEVEL ground.” I’m really trying to find that level ground…being balanced in my view of WT now that Bible prophecy is making more and more sense to me. I want to be balanced because I want to attract listeners…a crazy person all over the place….the mania and lethargy allow people to question my own balance. It’s certainly been an interesting ride…. sometimes I get so enraged and impassioned that when I speak, people (like my husband and mother) think I’m being arrogant. And then I get exhausted.
    Level ground Ali!

    So yesterday I called Bethel to “give them an observation.” I thanked them for the website and posting news items, and how in the past when I saw they were giving disaster relief, I’d be happy to give more money because I felt confident my donations were being used in the best way. Then I told the bethelite (a sweet sweet sister in accounting….clueless as you will see) that I do not feel as cheerful in sending money because we are not being told that donations are being used to pay for multimillion dollar settlements because of pedophilia. I explained that’s its not so much that the settlements have happened, but rather that the issue is not being disclosed. At this point she said that my question would be better for her overseer. It was actually a good little conversation. Perhaps if more people called Bethel to let them know that we don’t understand why we are hiding truths for the sake of an image….because we are all admonished to reveal our mistakes. If those scriptures apply to me personally for my benefit, wouldn’t they also apply to my organization? The number for Bethel is 1-718-560-5000.

    • Burt Reynolds

      You sound pretty well balanced to me Ali. Be happy for who you are and don’t change a thing. Different people need a different approach. Why should not yours be right. If you change you may miss a person. That’s why Jehovah made us all differently!

  • Good day everyone! Important message…..
    Since Jehovah is the ultimate healer. Daisy (Patricia) could use ALL of our prayers Today.

  • Andres Felipe

    Good morning brothers .Thanks for your comments .Are you one true refuge.You know what happened to Robert ?

  • Burt Reynolds

    I thought in view of Daisy being ill and frightened at this time, as we all would be, that I would offer this scripture that may help strengthen ‘our daisy’. Psalm 8. Verse. 3. When I consider the heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars which thou hast ordained; what is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man that thou visiteth him? For thou has made him a little lower than the Angels and hath crowned him with glory and honour….oh Lord, our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth.

    This scripture makes me remember that even though we are less than worthy of any consideration before our creator, nonetheless he values us as little lower than the Angels. And how much he values his Angels, we know. How much Jehovah values the spirit of life, we know, for even a single sparrow that falls to earth, he is mindful of. Every creeping thing, every eagle, every worm, even every dog, everything that lives, bears witness to the mighty hand of Jehovah and his love for us. Jehovah loves life itself in all things and like a leaping dolphin, his joy is there for us all to imbibe of. What wonderful and beautiful things he has made for us on this earth, for us to enjoy, and the sun in the heavens to warm us, a huge nuclear fission furnace full of the mathematics that only Jehovah knows. The moon to warm us at night, not with heat, but to look upon with the silvered warmth of emotional comfort, making shadows of nature for our wonderment as fire flies dance. Even all within the earth he has given us dominion over; like a father rewards his child with all manner of good things to please the soul. How much he must value us, and our cries to him in times of distress we know for certain, do not go unheard, neither does our fear, our worry and the emotion tearing at our very soul. For we know, do we not, that in the simplicity of our soul, in the weakness of our flesh, the one who has made excellent all the things of the earth and heaven; yes, he too made us in his image and he will not forget us in our time of need. Let us all set aside time today, to plead with Jehovah for Daisy, and for Eric, and for all those whom we love, that Jehovah will support us now, and through the coming trial, for ‘how excellent is thy name in all the earth’.

  • Andres Felipe

    Quiero decirles que ustedes han llegado a ser muy especiales en mi vida

  • Satan confronts Jesus,

    https://youtu.be/oWCxvoA_LqI

  • Bklyn Kevin

    Whom Does Satan Target?. Read more>
    https://jehovahs-witnesses-daily-text.com/2015/12/06/whom-does-satan-target/
    Excerpt:
    Satan does not just target the inexperienced. Nor are young people his favorite. They are simply more vulnerable to his wiles.
    The Scriptures reveal that the Devil primarily tries to mislead the leaders of God’s people. Look for instance at the man David. There are only a couple of references to the Devil in the entire Hebrew text (not counting Job) and one of them is in the account where Satan successfully incited David to take a census of Israel, the results of which were disastrous.

    • ROLEE ALLEN

      Brother Kevin…do you know an article on e-watchman that I can read over to help me explain the mediation arrangement between Christ and the anointed and the other sheep…I searched, couldn’t find what I was looking for…its hard for me to put this in simple terms..I know Brother King has it plain and simple for us…I would appreciate your help, I know by your comments your on top of things…thanks

      • im half asleep so idk if this will be close to what youre looking for – https://e-watchman.com/seven-dukes-mankind/

        • ROLEE ALLEN

          Oh, the amount of information is overwhelming….in a good way..lol…I haven’t read this article, thanks for helping brother!

      • Bklyn Kevin

        Episode #72. https://e-watchman.com/episode-72/

        If Jesus is not my mediator, how are my sins forgiven? –

        Why is Watchtower toning down Numbers 31:18? Or is their version the only one that is correct?

        Is it possible that man could someday day manipulate human DNA in such a way as to achieve everlasting life?

        Are not the “other sheep” Gentile believers, or is there a dual meaning?

        Call-in questions on subjects ranging from the two witnesses and the 7,000 who are killed, to how to go about preaching given the error inherent in the WT’s message. And more.

        • ROLEE ALLEN

          Thank you very much for taking the time to do this…I appreciate it!

      • Bklyn Kevin

        Excerpt from A New Covenant for a New Creation. Read more https://e-watchman.com/new-covenant-new-creation/

        The context of Paul’s remarks concerning the purpose of the new covenant has to do with Christians gaining access to Jehovah’s residence in heaven through their faith in Christ. Whereas, Jesus’ ransom made it possible for God to extend forgiveness to the world, thereby legally justifying the earthly resurrection of both righteous and unrighteous persons during the thousand year judgment day, a heavenly resurrection of imperfect humans would require something more than just forgiveness. As Paul noted above, the purpose of the new covenant is to allow God to confer a state of perpetual perfection upon those so sanctified. As regards the earthly resurrection, though, it is obvious that the dead to not have to be sanctified in any way in order to be released from death. Nor do the masses of people who now sleep in gravedom need to be in a new covenant with God or have Christ serve as their mediator in order to receive a resurrection.
        No, Jesus’ mediation of the new covenant is exclusively with the individuals who make up the new creation – “the Israel of God.”

      • Bklyn Kevin

        Podcast 59 Is Jesus the mediator of the great crowd? .https://e-watchman.com/podcast-59/#iLightbox%5Bgallery12635%5D/0

  • Vicenzo Lugo

    When you write : why isn’t the Precious Holy Spirit capitalized ?

  • Ed(the other Ed)

    Vicenzo, thank you very much for bring this up to the top, There’s a few stiff neck people right here who think they have one up on everyone because they have one foot in their local kingdom hall and one foot here, a little self righteous on there part . I suppose the early Christians had that problem with one another as well just before the stakes were planted around Jerusalem. Thanks again.

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