The Disgusting Thing that Causes Desolation

//The Disgusting Thing that Causes Desolation

“Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment),  then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.”

Jesus Christ

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An integral part of Jesus’ detailed prophecy concerning his return and the conclusion of the system of things focused on the desolation of Jerusalem by a “disgusting thing.” And it was in that context that Jesus referred the reader to the prophecy of Daniel.

(Most modern translations use the term “abomination,” rather than “disgusting thing.’ For comparison check out Bible Hub)

Concerning this a number of questions come to mind – foremost being: What is this disgusting thing? What is the holy place and how will it be brought to desolation?

Jehovah’s Witnesses are well aware that the disgusting thing originally appeared in the form of the Roman armies, which was foretold in the 9th chapter of Daniel. It was in the year 66 C.E. that Roman legions marched on Jerusalem to put down a revolt. Soldiers even began undermining the wall of the temple to get at the militant zealots who were holed up in it. But inexplicably the army withdrew. The zealots even triumphantly gave chase.sacking of the Jewish templeBut calling to mind the words of the Lord Jesus, discerning Christians living in Judea and Jerusalem seized the  opportunity to flee before the disgusting thing returned three and a half years later – bringing utter desolation upon the holy city. The death toll reached over a million due to the fact that the Romans besieged the city during Passover when Jerusalem was packed with worshippers and sojourners from faraway. More than likely even some negligent Christians failed to escape Jerusalem’s awful fate.

Here is a link to a Watchtower article fleshing out the setting leading up to the desolation of Jerusalem.

But, obviously, the desolation of Jerusalem, as horrific as it was, did not result in a great tribulation that obliged God to cut short on account of the chosen ones. That terrible time of trouble is destined to coincide with the coming of Christ. And the appearance of the antitypical disgusting thing standing in a holy place is an immediate precursor of a time of tribulation that will bring the entire world to the brink of extinction.

“THEY WILL PUT IN PLACE THE DISGUSTING THING”

According to the prophecy of Daniel (11:31) the disgusting thing is put into place by “they” – an apparent reference to both the kings of the north and south.

So, since the Watchtower teaches that Germany was the king of the north during the first half of the 20th century, followed by the USSR, the “they” is ostensibly understood by Jehovah’s Witnesses to be the Anglo-American kings of the south and the Nazi/Soviet kings of the north.

The Watchtower first began teaching that the League of Nations was the original abomination – as well as the manifestation of the symbolic scarlet-colored beast of Revelation – back around 1929. But, alas, post-WWI Germany did not have anything to do with setting up the League. Besides that inconvenient fact, the U.S. was not even a member of it. Nevertheless, when the League was dissolved at the outbreak of the Second World War and the United United Nations was established in the aftermath of the war, the Watchtower then proclaimed that the scarlet beast had ascended from the symbolic abyss.

Up until relatively recently (1999) Jehovah’s Witnesses believed that the United Nations was already standing in the holy place, which I will not bother to explain the convoluted rationale behind since it has been discarded. Now, though, Jehovah’s Witnesses expect Jesus’ words to be realized in the future, coinciding with the attack of the beast upon the harlot.

hammer and sickle UN logoBut is the Watchtower’s interpretation that the disgusting thing is presently the U.N. correct?It may well be. However, there are still a number of serious problems with Bethel’s latest, revised interpretation. Foremost being, that the eighth king, symbolized by the scarlet-colored wild beast from the abyss – regardless of what agency ultimately fulfills the role – has not begun ruling for the prophesied “one hour.”

How do we know the eighth king has not begun ruling? Because the emergence of the last kingdom initiates God’s hour of judgment upon the world and the book of Revelation is quite clear that all who give their allegiance to the wild beast after it emerges from a death-like state, from the abyss, do not have their names written in the book of life. In other words they receive the judgment of the second death, which Jehovah’s Witnesses correctly understand to mean permanent death – no resurrection. 

It seems likely that the numerous institutions of the United Nations as well as associated institutions like the IMF and World Bank, stand poised to become a functioning world government in the future – in the aftermath of the now-impending crash of the present economic and political system.

But, for the reason previously stated it simply cannot be true that the U.N. is presently in the role of the image – the idol brought to life by the resuscitated beast. (Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures idols and the false gods they represented are depicted as disgusting things. See Insight on the Scriptures – Disgusting thing)

As regards the proper identification of the “they” who put in place the disgusting thing, we must look to the 13th chapter of Revelation, where we are informed that a two-horned beast will ascend from the bowels of the earth and authoritatively speak as a dragon – commanding that an image of the seven-headed beast be made, which then comes to life. That two-horned beast is properly understood to be the Anglo-American dyad. However, it’s ascending up from the earth symbolizes its recovery from death – as if coming out of grave – the abyss.

While Jehovah’s Witnesses are under the delusion that the beast received the death-stroke back during WWI, the reality is that the Anglo-American system is now facing imminent collapse, which is why there is a relentless drive to ignite a global war. Already a winner-takes-all economic war is underway.

So, the “they” who put in place the disgusting thing is the Anglo-American duo, who are presently in the role of the king of the north and south, respectively. 

Not only were the United States and the British Empire the principle creators of the United Nations Organization during the Second World War, but they will force the nations to accept the United Nations as a world government in the future. This is what is symbolized in Revelation the 17th chapter where the 10 kings, symbolizing all the national governments, give their kingdom to the wild beast until the will of God is accomplished.pope addresses UN assemblyIt is then, in the future, when the disgusting thing will be put into place. And since that is prior to the destruction of Babylon the Great the disgusting thing includes the harlot with her cup full of disgusting things.

But what is the holy place?

Now, let’s consider Daniel 11:31 more closely. It states: “And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.”

First, it is important to note that there is an obvious connection between the profanation of the sanctuary, the fortress and the removal of the so-called constant feature, as well as the putting in place of the disgusting thing that causes desolation. And discerning students of prophecy well know that this is not the only place in Daniel where these things appear together in context.In the concluding words of the prophecy Daniel recorded the words of an angel who said: “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days.”

It is apparent that the removal of the constant feature and the placing of the disgusting thing are inseparable. That connection is confirmed in the 8th chapter of Daniel as well, where we read regarding the fierce-looking king: “It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army, and from him the constant feature was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down. And an army was given over, together with the constant feature, because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success.”

In the next verse the fierce-looking king is shown to also bring desolation upon a holy place. The angel goes on to relate: “How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?”

 

This prophecy will have a second and larger fulfillment. The United Nations is “the disgusting thing,” and Christendom is viewed as “a holy place” by its followers. The United Nations will attack Christendom and the rest of Babylon the Great, as also foretold at Revelation 17:16-18. This attack on Babylon the Great will be the beginning of the great tribulation.  – Wt 7/15 2013

 Surely any honest-reasoning person who does not have a hidden agenda will discern that when Jesus exhorted his disciples to consider the prophecy of Daniel regarding the desolation of the holy place he had in mind the passages cited above in this article. However, obviously, the Watchtower has a hidden agenda, as they make no such connection.

Another contradictory aspect of the Watchtower’s latest interpretation is the fact that Jesus indicated that his own followers would be directly impacted and will not be mere sideline observers. Did not Jesus indicate that even in the larger fulfillment Christians will be required to take decisive action to flee from the danger zone when the disgusting thing stands where it ought not?

“Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment. Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! Keep praying that your flight may not occur in wintertime nor on the Sabbath day; for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.”

That the admonition above applies to Christians in the future and not merely those living in Judea in the first century is evident from the span of verses immediately following, where Jesus went on to say: “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned you. Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.”

So, a careful reading of the Scriptures indicates that the disgusting thing standing in a holy place precedes the revelation of the Son of man and the gathering of the sons of the Kingdom.

Not only that, but consider this: If the holy place represents Christendom then how is it possible that false Christs and false prophets are operating after the point at which the disgusting thing brings desolation? And perhaps the most conspicuous deficiency in the Watchtower’s interpretation is the fact that Jesus forewarned his disciples of a massive deception aimed at misleading them. But how is it even possible that the chosen ones could be misled by the clergy or anyone not associated with the leadership of the trusted Watchtower organization?

Simply put, the Watchtower’s teaching regarding the desolation of the holy place cannot stand up to critical examination. It is a wholly artificial and self-serving interpretation intended to blind Jehovah’s Witnesses to the judgments of Jehovah.

So what is the holy place according to the Scriptures? It is Christ’s congregation, made up of holy ones. The eighth chapter of Daniel makes that connection clear, as the context indicates the removal of the constant feature and the trampling of the holy place coincides with the fierce-looking king bringing to ruin the people made up of holy ones.

The numerous prophecies of Daniel are complimentary, as well as harmonious with Revelation. For that reason it ought to be understood that the little horn that emerges from the ten is the same entity as the disgusting thing.

As regards the little horn with eyes and a mouth speaking great blasphemies, the prophecy states: “I kept watching as that horn made war on the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came and judgment was rendered in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One, and the appointed time arrived for the holy ones to take possession of the kingdom.”

swatIn the book of Revelation the same event is depicted thusly: “But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple sanctuary, leave it out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months. I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth.”

Returning to Daniel 11:31, what are the “arms” that will stand up proceeding from the king of the north? Most other translations use the expression “armed forces” instead of merely “arms.” These forces under the command of the king of the north likely are presently manifest in military alliances such as NATO and various other coalitions, but may also be expressed by militarized police and the oxymoronically named Homeland Security force in the United States, which in the event of martial law will come to the fore as the enforcer of the dictates of the last kingdom of man.

In short, the disgusting thing will stand in a holy place when the present system collapses and is replaced by a tyrannical world government, supported initially by organized religion, and the work of Jehovah’s Witnesses is crushed. Whatever remains of the Watchtower then will be subservient to Satan’s kingdom. 

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2016-12-08T15:11:36+00:00 December 19th, 2014|Daniel|21 Comments
  • Baruq

    Hello Robert.
    I read somewhere that the disgusting thing might be a flag or a symbol in Kingdom Hall. Because in 66ce, romands placed a standard in the temple. A government or ONU could require all KH to have a flag on the wall. So it will be time to flee and quite KH and Bethels. What do you think about this theory?

    • I don’t think it will be something that easy.

      According to the 8th chapter of Daniel a fierce-looking king is going to arise who will bring the mighty to ruin along with the holy ones. He will even confront the heavenly Prince of princes.

      It is evident that the fierce-looking king is the disgusting thing because he is said to bring desolation to the holy place and remove the constant feature. By the way, that is why Jesus advised the reader to have discernment according to what is written in Daniel.

      That will entail something far more earth-shaking than setting up a few flags. We are looking out the overthrow of civilization and the imposition of an Orwellian tyranny beyond imagination.

    • Brian

      Yes, but it wasn’t the standard that represented the disgusting thing, sure it may have been their “royal” flag, but it was them that were standing where they shouldn’t be, the disgusting thing that is about to arrive where it shouldn’t be will be something trying to mimic Gods Kingdom.

      • John

        The Roman standar was an idol in the Roman army, and idols are disgusting. The Bible often speaks of idols as being disgusting, even dungy.
        So a true worshiper would always regard idols as disgusting.
        The Roman standar at Jerusalems destruction had the image of an eagle. And according to sources the soldiers worshiped it every morning.

        The idol in the shape of an eagle representing the Roman empire did not die out with the fall of the Roman empire.
        Hitler’s Third Reich adopted the eagle together with the Swastika.
        And US continues to represent it self with the eagle.

        What if “the image of the beast” will be in form of an eagle?

        And what if the government will require all buildings exept private homes to be decorated with the eagle representing the Beast?

        What do you think GB would do?

        Interestingly Daniel 11:32 says that after the disgusting thing is placed and the sanctuary prophaned, then the king of North will lead into apostasy those who act wickedly against the covenant.

        Those who are lead into apostasy must be first worshipers of the true God, how could they otherwise apostatise?

        l see it very likely that this apostasy will be in the form of idolatry, by worshiping the beast and its image.

        The king of the North will surely tell the WT organization, in order for you to remain as an organization you have to adopt the disgusting thing, the image of the beast.

        That would be the time to leave the WT org , when you see the disgusting thing standing where it ought not to be.

        That would be when the woman of Revelation 12 flees to wilderness for 3,5 years and is fed by local anointed instead of the GB.

  • xARAYx

    I spent over 30 years as a JW…raised as a Witness…elder, pioneer, etc…In 1999 I was assigned as the lead to interact with the Society’s Legal Dept. on a molestation case and I saw immediately that the Society was only seeking to protect itself and the local body was aggressive towards the victim and her family because they reported everything to the authorities. I left in 1999 and spent the next 12 years on a wilderness walk…I sought fulfillment through work, music, alcohol, Buddhism, Hinduism, New Age philosophy but found nothing to bring myself peace. I felt like I had reached the end…I was at a crossroads and my choices weren’t good. An acquaintance invited me to come to a local church, and my first thought was ‘that’s not happening’…but I eventually decided to go just to feel better about myself…I had decided to ‘get in and out’ and stay ‘under the radar’…not get involved…So much for my plans, God had other plans…I am a musician and usually play on the weekends, but it just so happened I was off one weekend when this church had a guest minister whose work is to help those ‘beat up by religion.’ I attended a special 3 night meeting and one night he invited anyone who had been beat up by religion to come forward and there were brothers in the front who would pray with you…Now I have to clarify that this minister is very conservative…not the classic altar call you might be picturing as you read this…this was a real offer of help and it took me several minutes to respond…I knew I was at a crossroads and was out of options…I decided to go up. What happened is beyond any words I could offer here…It’s as if Jesus Christ reached in my heart and flipped a switch…I had a knowing that I was loved by God and by His Son…that they had been waiting for me and welcomed me with open arms. I wasn’t seeking Jesus or God…for many of the years I had been going in completely in the opposite direction…and it took me awhile to process what had happened…I had not been pursuing God, but He had been pursuing me, and I think you’ll agree if you think about it – God has always pursued mankind. Well that’s been nearly four years ago and I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I started seminary training and I have to confess to you…there are seminary professors who have a level of respect for the Bible that the JW Governing Body could not even imagine. I would suggest the following to anyone who wants to learn more about the Bible…take a course on Biblical Interpretation or a New or Old Testament Survey. I have been extremely fortunate…I began asking questions and my pastor, who graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and was on the board there, mentored me and set me on this path. I thought I knew the Bible as a Witness, but the honest truth is that I am in a different Universe, and have been shown the deep chasm of my ignorance. There’s just one thing…now instead of the GB I have the Holy Spirit and what a difference that makes! I feel like all the pieces of the eschatological puzzle have fallen into place for me…I’m not saying that because I’m wanting to look smart or be right…I’m saying that because I want all of you to know that there is a wonderful world beyond the Watchtower, and the depth and richness of God’s Word is far beyond what most people imagine…This is my first post here, but it won’t be my last. My wife and I are deeply committed to helping JW’s navigate the slippery slopes to a real freedom, and we have seen some amazing things start to happen as their organization begins to preach fear…I’ll be happy to share what I’ve learned about end times and you can make your own decision as to whether it makes any sense…

    • Bklyn Kevin

      Hello xarayx good to have you visit us.

      Please take advantage of the abundance of spiritual provisions that Roberts web site has to offer and I promise you – you will not be disappointed.

      Woe to the Stupid Prophets.

      …In the 13th chapter of Ezekiel Jehovah commanded his watchman to denounce the “stupid prophets” of Israel – Jehovah spoke to Ezekiel: “Son of man, prophesy concerning the prophets of Israel who are prophesying, and you must say to those prophesying out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of Jehovah. This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has…

      Read more>

      https://e-watchman.com/woe-to-the-stupid-prophets/

      Search results for: False prophetshttps
      ://e-watchman.com/?s=False+prophets&lang=en

      • xARAYx

        Thanks Bklyn Kevin! Yes sir I have been reading a variety of postings and I appreciate Robert’s story and mission! One of the main reasons that the GB is so reprehensible is due to the fact they ‘allegorize’ or ‘spiritualize’ so much of Scripture. We must let God’s Word speak for itself! Have they ever stopped to think about the fact that all of the OT prophecies, including those surrounding Jesus first coming were fulfilled literally? For example…as a Witness I looked at Jesus withdrawing when they wanted to make Him a King from the ‘no part of the world’ perspective. What I’ve learned is that it wasn’t yet time to offer Himself as King, because He did ride in to Jerusalem 483 years to the day per Daniel’s prophecy and did offer Himself as King, but was rejected…If Jesus first coming was fulfilled literally, then should we expect Christ’s second coming will be fulfilled spiritually? I’m thinking not… 🙂

    • Darren Wilks

      Hi xARAYx, I really appreciated your story.. My favorite part was your statement, “if you think about it – God has always pursued mankind.” I just pray your cup isn’t completely full. Read some of the articles here and see if they resonate with you. God Bless!

      • xARAYx

        Hi Darren! One of my favorite Bible accounts is the Samaritan woman at the well and Jesus interaction with her…I think it’s fairly clear that she was not really seeking anything but water! She tried to change the subject multiple times…but Jesus went through all the boundaries of the day with this ultimate outcast because He wanted to know her! He slowly showed her that she had been trying to find fulfillment through relationships with men, but he was offering the one relationship that wouldn’t end up on the rocks! Jesus rescued me and for that I am so thankful! In seminary I spent 11 weeks studying Philippians chapter 2…believe me when I say what I learned from that experience is that I have way more to learn than I could in multiple lifetimes…so absolutely I am teachable. On the other hand learning what the Bible really has to say after all these years is truly a marvelous thing!

        • Darren Wilks

          I love that account with the woman at the well! I will read Philippians chapter 2! Thankyou for suggesting it. My question is.. Did you succumb to the Jesus=Jehovah teaching? Or do you still know the difference between the Almighty and our Prince of Peace?

          • xARAYx

            One scripture I try to get Witnesses to look at is Acts 4:8-12…This section of Peter’s powerful speech on Jesus ends with “Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name by which men must get saved.” (NWT) – One of the beautiful things about ‘not’ being a Witness is that I no longer have any need to be right…That being said I don’t feel a need to argue the Trinity because one day we will know the truth about it when we see God face to face…The bottom line for me is that Jehovah God opened the way to Himself through Jesus…it’s His plan…Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and so much more than the Witnesses ever gave Him credit for…John 5:23b says, “…he who does not honor the Son, does not honor the Father who sent Him.” There are many, many topics that have led me to the conclusion that if God had wanted us to understand some things he would have made it way more clear because He knows what we’re made of!!! I find joy in trusting Him on things like this…I do imagine finding out one day that the Father’s relationship with the Son has been special in ways we never imagined. One thing I am totally convinced of…it’s NOT a competition between them…Philippians 2:5-11 is a beautiful example of submission and sacrifice to accomplish the greater good…Where do you think Jesus learned such humility??? I’m guessing His Father…and His Father is very, very proud…

            • Darren Wilks

              His will be done! Whether our understanding is complete or not.. May Jehovah and his Son Yehoshuah do all that pleases them and use us as their vessels! Amen

            • xARAYx

              Amen Darren!!!

  • Francis Bencharles

    It is not the current governments of Donald Trump & Theresa May that will rise from the earth to become the two-horned beast that is a Dragon in sheeps’ clothing. No, the parts of the U.S./U.K. that will rise up and become the false prophet will be the “shadow government” from both countries that will be the major influence of the current U.S./U.K. powers untimely downfall. This will be a most horrible false flag event to cut off the head of the current “head” (not necessarily the main head) of the seven headed beast.

    The fourth beast of Daniel 7 will be a conglomeration beast without the direct influence of the U.S. who will now not be a part of the 10 horned beast but will be the false prophet which gives breath to the “image” of the beast. This new beast will not be the present U.N. but will be the Son or “image” of the current U.N. It will have many of the characteristics of the current U.N. but will have the power of the Dragon that gives it to them. Since the symbolic sea has no effective leader (border) this will in effect be a “new” power.

    The shadow gov’t which continues to control the spy world have planned the destruction of the current Trump/May Brexit from the globalist system and will strike with a hugely destructive act described in Revelation 13 that will gain the attention of all in the world and will chill them to their bones. So much so that they will give over their allegiance to the beast. The center of power is in London (the city of) and it’s subsidiary is on Wall Street in New York. So, these are the “feet” of the image of Daniel 2 that will be struck by the stone (cut without hands of the demons) that brings down the Nation State system.

    God’s Kingdom is also such a stone, but it does not destroy the image of Daniel 2 but is the sourse of the demise of the fourth beast of Daniel 7 that forms after the destruction of the Nation State system. It is this last beast (the eighth power) that is brought low by the Holy Ones of the Lord.

    23 “This is what he said: ‘As for the fourth beast, there is a fourth kingdom that will come to be on the earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms, and it will devour all the earth and will trample it down and crush it.+ 24 As for the ten horns, ten kings will rise up out of that kingdom; and still another one will rise up after them, and he will be different from the first ones, and he will humiliate three kings.+ 25 He will speak words against the Most High,+ and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time.*+ 26 But the Court sat, and they took away his rulership, in order to ANNIHILATE HIM and to DESTROY HIM COMPLETELY.” Daniel 7

  • Alex Henrique

    Daniel 7:21,22 is not related with this? And about Revelation 11:7-10? I think it is. It is about the murder of the saints that occurs very at the end of the great tribulation.

  • Anderiega

    Excellent excellent article!! Jehovah’s witnesses are beginning the reading of the book of Daniel this week (September 18, 2017)….it would be so nice if we could all have a discussion on this article as book study groups. But alas, this is not Jehovah’s will. At least we can all individually think about these things in our little “wildernesses.”

    • what isnt Jehovah’s will? telling the truth isnt his will? when the next Kingdom Bulletin comes out i will be handing it out to those who will listen just as ive been doing daily. its not my responsibility to convince. Isaiah 58:1. when the time comes i can say i tried and didnt sit idle. since Jehovah says its a case of seeing” and “a case of opening the ears” then hes will for them is to do that.

      Robert said he felt like David. shouldnt we all feel that way about ourselvs? David had comrades who helped him.

      just my thought

  • Richy

    The Fierce looking king will be a so called Alien God.

  • Richy

    This Fiece looking king will be an alien god or Satan. This will be your massive deception brought in under the small horn N.W.O which includes a one world religion. You just don’t know it yet. And it will be a grand deception.

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