The Day of Small Beginnings

//The Day of Small Beginnings

Monday, July 11

Who has despised the day of small beginnings?Zech. 4:10.

There is no need for us to be overly concerned about how the Kingdom message will reach the millions who have not yet heard it. Jehovah has everything under control. But what is our work? God’s Word answers: “Sow your seed in the morning and do not let your hand rest until the evening; for you do not know which will have success, whether this one or that one, or whether they will both do well.”  Of course, at the same time, we should never forget to pray for the success of the preaching work, especially in countries where the work is restricted. Additionally, we should not be discouraged if we do not at first see results from our work. We should never despise “the day of small beginnings.” The results may eventually turn out to be a lot greater and more wonderful than we had ever anticipated!


It was said that Fred Franz was a genius. He certainly had what is called a photographic mind —meaning he apparently possessed near total recall. I remember hearing him speak at a convention in his later years when he was almost totally blind. He went through an entire chapter of Isaiah, expounding on each verse in detail —all without a Bible or notes, which he could not have read anyway.

Franz wrote extensive commentaries on Jeremiah, Daniel, Revelation, Isaiah, Zechariah and Ezekiel —authoritatively tying virtually every fulfillment of prophecy to 1914 in one way or another. It seems that Fred Franz pretty much single-handedly, or single-mindedly, as it were, constructed the Watchtower’s 1914 doctrinal wall, which has kept Bethel busy plastering and whitewashing to maintain it ever since.

To the point, Franz’s explanation of the “small beginnings,” or “small things” as the Reference Bible words Zechariah 4:10, is – not surprisingly – said to have been fulfilled in 1919. In the book Paradise Restored to Mankind By Theocracy, here is what is stated:

When this work of building up the theocratic organization for Jehovah’s worship began in the postwar year of 1919 C.E., it looked despicable in the eyes of religious Babylon the Great and her military, political paramours. It looked so impossible of realization to them. Why so? Because the surviving remnant of anointed spiritual Israelites was so small and was in international disrepute.

First, it should be understood that the setting for the prophecy of Zechariah was the post-exilic rebuilding of Jerusalem and a temple for the renewed worship of Jehovah. Those repatriated Jews who were on hand to see the rebuilt temple felt like it was nothing compared to Solomon’s magnificent temple that Nebuchadnezzar had razed to the ground. Yet, Jehovah explained to them the later house would become more glorious than the former and all the valuable things of the nations would come to it when God began shaking the nations.

Secondly, it was the Jews themselves who were told not to despise the day of seemingly insignificant beginnings —not the enemies of God, as Franz’s commentary suggests.

Foremost, though, the reason the temple was being reconstructed in the first place is because the rebellious Jews obligated God to destroy the original. Yet, there is nothing that even Fred Franz could point to in the 1914 era or before, that could even remotely compare to the epic siege that Jehovah brought upon Jerusalem five centuries before Christ.

Furthermore, the prophecy of Haggai says concerning the rebuilt temple: “For this is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘Yet once more—in a little while—and I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land. And I will shake all the nations, and the precious things of all the nations will come in; and I will fill this house with glory,’ says Jehovah of armies.”

According to Franz Jehovah began shaking the heavens and the earth in 1914 and the numerical growth of Jehovah’s Witnesses are “the precious things” that have been gathered. World War One is considered the manifestation of that shaking. Here is what the aforementioned publication states:

How, though, would earthly human society be rocked or shaken by this invisible heavenly action of the Universal Sovereign if human society was unaware of it? How would unspiritual human society feel it, feel jarred by it? This would be by his having them notified that the Gentile Times, “the appointed times of the nations,” had ended in 1914, the year in which World War I began. Their long world domination had now ended, for now it could be said to the Sovereign Lord Jehovah: “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken you great power and begun ruling as king. But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came.”

But as with all of the Watchtower’s interpretations, there are glaring contradictions. Because all prophecy is harmonious, consider the prophecy Christ uttered concerning the conclusion. Jesus spoke of the desolation of antitypical Jerusalem during when the very powers of the heavens will be shaken, afterwards a great trumpet will sound and the chosen ones will be gathered from the four corners of the earth. So, that is all three of the elements previously discussed: 1. The destruction of Jerusalem. 2. The shaking. 3. the gathering.

Concerning that “shaking” which Christ foretold the Watchtower rightly acknowledges that it has not occurred. That being true, that means the great tumult of nations is a future calamity. That is when men will become faint with fright, followed by a great ingathering of God’s chosen ones. That means the shaking foretold in Haggai, which also results in the gathering of “the precious things,” must likewise be a future event.

Because of being indoctrinated to such an extent, Jehovah’s Witnesses simply cannot conceive of any “small beginnings” in the future. But the commencement of the great upheaval will shake them to their senses. The post-Watchtower era will bring about a new beginning. 

2017-03-18T11:28:22+00:00 July 11th, 2016|Commentary|78 Comments
  • Please8834

    Robert. .
    Why would only so few of us realize that there are so many contradictions with the W.T. interpretation ? Does that mean this little handful of folks that come here looking and try to tell others, do we have anymore of a hope than our brothers who come under Jehovahs underserved kindness? I feel as if there will be far less of a great crowd coming out of the great tribulation than ever before. .

    • Joel Sherrod

      I think you are looking at it wrong, Rev-Zone. It’s not that ‘there are so many contradictions in Watchtower interpretation, ” no, it’s that many of the Biblical prophecies that have to do with the end-times the Watchtower Society continues to—wrongly—tie them to their 1914 doctrine. That is where the vast majority of Watchtower error can be found. The number of those considered the “Great Crowd” will remain stable DESPITE the error of the Watchtower. But, and this is a big but, it is the RESPONSIBILITY of each individual Witness or true believer to do just as the first century Bereans did when they heard Paul and Silas . . . the Bible says that they ‘carefully examined the Scriptures daily to see whether the things—Paul and Silas were teaching—were so.’ (Acts 17: 10-12). That is indeed what I have done. Though being a baptized brother in excellent standing in my Congregation for many years, I found the courage to “think” for myself; yes, to use my own powers of reason to QUESTION many of the things the Watchtower has taught. But the key was “courage.” So I found myself “surfing” the web for comparative and counter views on certain Watchtower doctrines. My search led me to the E-Watchman site. And how happy I am! So, no. We who look to Brother Robert King to expound and explicate the Scriptures more accurately and correctly, we do NOT have “more of a hope than our brothers or sisters,” as you so passionately wondered. We are simply those who have found the courage to THINK FOR OURSELVES; to believe and follow those teachings that the Faithful Slave are correct in (and there are many), but to QUESTION those teaching that do not sit well with our spirit. Yes, to “SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES” to see whether those things that the Society teaches (and may have taught for years) are actually so! If we do that, we will be just as “noble” as the Bereans were. And we will be BLESSED by Jehovah, not condemned.

      • Burt Reynolds

        Come back soon Joel.

      • Burt Reynolds

        I don’t think brother Revv zone is questioning so much the degree of hope between those that visit this site and those that don’t, only wondering why we are here in the first place and the purpose of Jehovah in this provision. Why we were led here as many believe to be the case. Why would so comparatively few be so blessed with this insight if not for a reason? Why are we not left to endure the test with the same degree of understanding that the brothers in general, do in the congregation? Why should we have an advantage in knowledge? Jehovah is impartial. That is not to say that there is a reason, and of these few, still less appear attached to a congregation. This knowledge is a precious jewel indeed, the pearl that we would buy a field for to own. Each of us is a Borean, that is why we are here for the very reason we did check the scriptures against the organisation and found it wanting. It is certainly a question in my mind, but must surely be one without an answer at this time and perhaps it would be presumptuous of us to assume a reason for it… But then why would Jehovah provide the insight? He does nothing without purpose!

    • what was the number of that great crowd anyway¿

      • Burt Reynolds

        301,452,778. Burt, ch 3. V 2.

        • silly

          • Burt Reynolds

            Well you did ask. It would be spooky if I was right!

        • Joe Dman

          That many? That’s a relief. I can start slacking then.

          • Burt Reynolds

            It’s not a lot out of seven billion. Just make sure you get on the school bus.

    • Joe Dman

      I think many of us wonder the same thing. I feel that Robert has a multi faceted task here. Warning the leadership of the watchtower of Jehovah’s judgement which include a correct understanding of prophecy. Another purpose is to bring the lost sheep back to Jehovah and probably to renew the faith of active witnesses who are becoming disgruntled. And since the time is getting short, to help searchers of the true God to expedite their coming to know Jehovah and the Christ.
      I often imagine that we could possibly have some grand assignment that Jehovah may give us but it will probably be the same task that all true Christians will have and that is ministering to the Holy Ones during their time of test. But regardless, it’ll make for some exciting conversations throughout forever.

      • Shelley.

        I believe you are absolutely right Joe.Brother King has been a blessing for many.I believe Jehovah is using him to save many as we draw closer to the end.

        • Joe Dman

          It’s sad to read someones post who found this site and expresses excitement then later has doubt. So maybe another purpose is to show someone the real truth so that when they don’t accept it they can’t blame Jehovah for not showing it to them. So once you “think” you’ve stumbled upon this site and you become familiar with its message, that’s probably it. What other hope is there?
          I know that many years ago I only read a couple of Roberts articles and I didn’t get the message right away. I assumed he was another person discrediting the watchtower. I’m so glad I came back and that all these brothers and sisters are here to encourage me and each other.
          Thank you Shelly and all you others for being here.

          • Bklyn Kevin

            John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin.
            But now they have no excuse for their sin.

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    I had a mini freak out when I went to e-watchman this morning and it said “404 this page does not exist.” and before the page reloaded I thought of Roberts “no commentary this weekend/commentary will be deleted.” Lol. But I’m thankful for this mornings commentary.
    I realize that we all only have a peep hole view of each other in this forum. I have a “bi polar” personality….no, I’m not actually bi polar, but I get high energy/excited about something….share my passion and then burn out.
    I see my pattern and I’m trying to be more “slow and steady wins the race” but when it comes to public ministry or inviting people to the kingdom Hall (organized religion) I still have days of feeling totally conflicted. I want to follow Jesus’ example to preach the kingdom, but why am I inviting people to a hypocritical organization that Jesus is going to cleanse in what looks like to be the very near future? It feels like being a Christian in 65 CE and inviting people to Jerusalem. Some days my thinking feels clear and strong. Today I feel apathetic and like I just want to worship Jehovah in the wilderness, where there’s less confusion and nonsense.

    • have you downloaded the audio of Rob’s book?

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        Nope…will do. I’ve only read it

        • mite help some for a while in case of a bigger freak out

        • Burt Reynolds

          Hello Ali, there is no need to download the book, you can listen to it on demand by tapping the relevant chapter heading on the icon. If find it great to listen to but need to keep ‘rewinding’ as I drop off to sleep. Listing to a book being read has that effect on me, it’s not perculiar to Robert I hasten to add, or of course, the subject matter. I’m just narcoleptic!

      • Darren Wilks

        I like to listen to it when I’m falling asleep..that or the podcasts too.

  • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

    Does Haggai 2:6,7 and Hebrews 12:26-29 refer to the same future shaking? I used these scriptures to reason that many, many people who survive and are part of the great crowd were not Jehovah’s Witnesses. I don’t even know what WT teaches re these two scriptures. I’m just thinking out loud….I’ll do some research, but I think this is why so many witnesses avoid having scriptural discussions from just their Bibles….because they’re afraid to think or learn something contrary to WT.

    • Joel Sherrod

      That is correct Alexandra. We call it a “Bible Study,” but in truth we do not—nor have we ever to the best of my knowledge—studied from the Bible alone. It is always a study of a biblical doctrine through the instructional lenses of a Watchtower publication. In this way all our thinking and reasoning on a particular belief is carefully filtered through the doctrinal leanings of the WTB&TS.

      Wow! When you really think about it, that is a pretty powerful tool—or should I say “ploy” to gain not just converts, but indoctrinated mind-controlled converts!

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista a perfect example of smooth words. But not truth!!!!!

        • Hahaha hahaha

          Robert should make a video with this, like he did about their moving to 1 Kings Way.

          Nothing like a good-ol-ewatchman debunking ???????

          Thumbs up if you agree ?

          • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

            Yes Robert! Please a rebuttal video as if you were a thinking bible student…..or perhaps the helper to the conductor who chimes in a little too much. This could be hilarious!

          • Burt Reynolds

            I’m lost on this one. I must have been asleep! Who is the bald guy and the guy with glasses? Sounds like a soap opera. Also, do you have a link to this other video about kings way? I don’t even know what kings way is! Yes, I do love the sharp videos, it’s an art form….and I need a laugh too but I just don’t know what this is all about. Time for a cup of tea….

            • Robert’s funny spoof –

              in case you were wondering how i gave you a reply less then like 10 seconds after your comment, its because im stalking you (insert sinister laugh here)

              i was really reading the comment as yours poped up and i just happen to have the link coppyed :p anyway i think thats close to what youre looking for

            • Burt Reynolds

              Hello D34, you can always stalk me better on face book Groke Goddard, limited mostly other stalkers from this site!!!! There are so many haters of Jehovah’s people out there.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Just read this. It’s a bit unnerving. I would have been Cameron. That’s a stock in hand reply…..’I’ll research that…’. My sister says that when she doesn’t have an answer. The sad thing is if they did actually research it and found out Robert was correct and told the governing body, you would be disfellowshipped for apostacy. So much for the ‘truth’ . It makes me think how sly Satan is that he can make the truth a lie deserving of disfellowshipping and blind the perpetrators so well. .

            • ive been told (recently) ‘ill check that later’, meaning ‘i dont want to think, i juat want you to leave and im not really going to look that up later’.

              so much for making your yes – yes

            • 1914for100Alex

              I see them almost every day on the way to work. They hang out by the bus stops. From what I’ve observed, they don’t seem pushy at all. I think they wait to be asked, as I’ve seen new people walking up and they don’t pounce on them lol. I was approached a while back at the airport, but it was a sister simply asking if I’d like a copy of the Watchtower to read on the plane. I politely declined. I wish I’d been familiar with Robert’s site and had more time though. And understanding, as I have no doubt that same sister could probably run circles around me when it comes to “Bible understanding”.

              I need a little more time before I’ll feel comfortable enough to engage somebody, as opposed to just pointing them here. Which brings me to this question: Is there a write up here that’s kind of brief that someone like me could study and give some quick rebuttals or points to get people thinking? Something kind of simple with some key scriptures that I could quote? This whole site is pretty heavy, and I hope to fully understand it eventually, but for now if a Witness were to come to my door I’d like to at least have something to say.

            • Burt Reynolds

              I’m in much the same boat. I know loads of scriptures but can I recall the chapter and verse?! No. It’s embarrassing because I love the truth but at times cannot express it as I don’t know where to turn to it! What I do is find a key point, a key scripture that refutes the JW monologue. Not to be argumentative, but just an opposite, critical to doctrine, view that is in the bible for them, like, as Robert pointed out the other day, the book of Joel…..and stay on that subject. That way, you get your point to them and plant the seed. Remember the example of the person sowing seed, some fell on stone, some on poor soil, some on good. We only plant. Jehovah makes it grow. Do your bit, no matter how you may feel about it; worthy adversary to them, or not, and leave the rest to Jehovah. Did you not see truth immediately when you came here? Well, if so, don’t assume you need to knock them dead with your knowledge, for it is faith that reaches the heart, the touch of Jehovah’s hand is instantly recognisable to the righteous soul.

            • 1914for100Alex

              Thanks for the reply. I should have said “in addition to Joel” because I think that is a great idea, and I did read Robert’s write up the other day. But you make great points. Maybe I should just stick with Joel. My concern was that they might try to steer away from that, and I’d end up with a deer in the headlights look 🙂 Thanks.

            • you can ask someone about the great tribulation. say so the great tribulation is very soon huh. and they’ll say oh yeah. ask to be shown the scripture about it. then say so it gets cut short huh, and they’l agree. and then say so a great crowd comes out of the tribulation too right? and ask for them to show you scripture so you can see.

              then say so why is it that the Watchtower has not understood who the gerneration is that will not pass away when the great tribulation occurs? why have they keep changing the meaning so many times up to even just recently with the complacated graft chart of overlapping generations when its so clear and simlpe that the great crowd is the generation that see all these things of the tribulation? who could it be past overlapping generations that are now even dead when it has not even happend yet?

              be prepared to just nod your head and looz so to speak the convdrsation and politely dissagree with any mumbogumbo explanation given after

            • 1914for100Alex

              Thanks D.A. I think my best bet would be to use that one on some older JW’s. With them I could at least relate and say “remember when we were all sitting there looking at our watches, thinking any day now…and then they did the switcharoo?”. I suppose the newer ones have gone through it too though, just not as many times.

              Reminds me of this one from Bush:

            • that stupid George guy should join the goverming body; he acts just like em

            • 1914for100Alex

              Reminds me of the quote “the devil will tell a thousand truths to sell one lie”.

            • Good morning Burt,

              That video was off the site, they are trying to show you how to teach about the 1914 hoax.. The 1 Kings Way I was referring to is the Warwick rebuttal Robert did on another video. We’re hoping Robert makes a rebuttal on this as well to help JW’s see clearly.


              See video

            • Burt Reynolds

              Thanks Joseph. I’ll watch it now! I hope you are well today.

            • Sleepy, just waking up, it’s 5 AM .time for some Earl Grey ⛾

            • Burt Reynolds

              Found them, read them. Robert says the thought f being right keeps him up at night. I should think so….he’s keeping us all up at night worrying that he’s right ! I don’t envy you getting up at five. I’ve had my share of that. You guys seem to work all hours. Over here, we get five weeks hols a year plus loads of public holidays. We get a state pension too but it’s obligatory to feel guilty about it and a burden on society. It’s the English way. We had summer yesterday too. A whole afternoon of sun, so it’s not all bad. We start on winter tomorrow which goes through to next summer. Today is Autumn. 🙂

            • oh, the street kings way, my bad.

            • i was going to say it would be funny to see someone do that spoof in a video Robert made up on it

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              I hadn’t seen that video (Roberts response) It’s so refreshing to watch a thinking brother with a sense of humor and computer editing skills. (I’m a total computer idiot)

          • Sam

            “So how does this fit in to 1914?” “That is an excellent question!” Damn right lol

          • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

            Question: (first a comment: I’m so so so happy to share that my 70 year old mother…..uber zealous, previous special pioneer no longer believes with certainty that Jesus starting ruling invisibly in 1914!! Talk about 2 Corinthians 10:4,5 “overturning strongly entrenched things.” )

            But she asked me a valid question today: If Jesus is coming visibly, why would he talk so much about the SIGN of his presence?

            My response (I still lack confidence in myself because I feel like I’m in e-watchman kindergarten prophecy school) was: 1) the transfiguration is a foregleam of Christ’s coming or presence. He actually visibly appeared to the disciples.
            2) Jesus will visibly show himself to the chosen ones, but the sign is for the rest of us.
            3) the WT has moved all the “stuff” Jesus does (the virgins, the sheep and goats, the wheat and weeds, the marking with the inkhorn) when he comes to a future time, but the only thing they can’t give up is his invisible presence because then they’d have to admit he hasn’t cleaned his house yet.

            I just want to have my answer in a tidy little package I can mentally whip out. Please correct my answer if there are any errors.

            Also, what is that awesome question to ask a witness re the prophecy in Daniel 4…..something like: Would Jesus’ apostles have asked about the destruction of Jerusalem 5 centuries in the past in reference to the time of the end? I’m not wording it the best…..thanks for the help!!!

            • “i will be with you untill”
              what more does the 1914 doctrine amount to? nothing.

              listen to the audio a few times


              obviously there is more to his coming. he was already made king when he was a man on earth

            • That is great news about your mom, remember baby steps. My mom was the same way, I had to feed her small amounts of ewatchman baby food at first. For a newbie you sure got it together with the time line of things!

              Listen to Daily Commentary July 3, 2016 by e-watchman #np on #SoundCloud

            • Joe Dman

              Alexandra, did you ever get a firm answer to your mother’s question: “If Jesus is coming visibly, why would he talk so much about the SIGN of his presence?” ? Isn’t it that when he does come and all those things occur, including the judgment beginning with the house of God, Christ has come but does not immediately reveal himself to them. Just like after his resurrection in the first century, he didn’t immediately show himself to all of them at once. It was spread out over days or weeks. Also, it is tied in with the deluding influence. If it was made clear to everyone that he would visibly appear to them, the deluding influence would not be possible. Did that last sentence make sense cause it just popped out. But I did ask Jehovah to help so if it makes sense, thank Jehovah.
              BTW, how did it go with your mother?

            • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

              What you said makes total sense. My mom is coming along. She’s in a foreign language congregation, so she spends a lot of mental energy on language….she’s even admitted that she doesn’t have a lot of energy for prophecy and thinking in general. Lol. She said that on a recent bible study she just skipped the 1914 appendix. That’s huge!!! Thanks for asking. 🙂

        • 1914for100Alex

          The bald guy was smart not to start out with how the Witnesses inject themselves into the book of Revelation. I think the guy with the glasses would have lost it and kicked him out lol.

    • Burt Reynolds

      I think you are absolutely right Ali, but why brothers are afraid to look is beyond understanding really. At least I can’t understand it. Everyone hates being lied to but to not recognise it…? And want to believe it…? I hope you got your ceiling fixed, and I love your description of a mental freak out.

      • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

        It is easier to teach a lie than to teach someone he’s been lied to.

    • 1 – Isaiah 19:23-25
      (cant find the article im looking for; maybe edit later)


      “In truth, the prophecy will find fulfillment in the future —after the utter crash of this system. The reason the nations will not slaughter each other is because ultimately the only nations that will exist will be composed of Jehovah’s people from all the nations. That is what the second chapter of Isaiah is about. The mountain of the house of Jehovah will be lifted up after the mountain-like institutions of this world are brought low, including the institution of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.”

    • Joe Dman

      If you find out, let us know. Have you asked Robert through an email yet? I have a long time friend who gravitates toward our beliefs but doesn’t want to commit. Robert mentioned that there won’t be time for anyone to learn and get to know Jehovah but perhaps ones that are familiar with the truth, like the Ethiopian eunuch, may just need a little light to shine. Perhaps a nuclear blast or losing his life savings. Then fear may cause ones that have heard to believe. It’s just hard to believe that so many “good people” will perish. But then the good people may be taken by the pale horseman and Hades and experience a resurrection.

  • sienna

    Hi all I have been reading Roberts site for some time I posted about a year ago but because I’m only studying and trying to give up smoking to go on the preaching work I don’t feel that confident in saying anything. You all giants in knowledge compared to me lol but I am reading and learning from here much more than what I’m being told in my bible study for egsample world war 3 isn’t going to happen I feel so sorry for them their denial in reality is staggering but I’m grateful I’m being taught the basic truths of the Truth because I know it is andi find it very hard not to say something but I know I will be questioned and my going out preaching and hopefully baptism if I give up smoking will be delayed till I agree so I hope you all accept me May Jehovah bless you all especially Robert who made this all possible with his website.

    • Joel Sherrod

      Hi! Welcome back Sienna. One quick word of encouragement, please DO NOT allow a few erroneous doctrinal interpretations by the Faithful Slave to sidetrack you from your goal of dedication and baptism to your God Jehovah. Your baptism is in symbol of your relationship and acceptance of Jehovah’s Son, Jesus Christ, as your Lord and Savior. It is NOT a dedication to an fallible Organization!

      So inspite of your continual stuggle to stop smoking, and inspite of the few end-time doctrinal mistakes the Governing Body has made; please realize that there is NO OTHER religion on Earth today that is teaching the truth! No other! Be assured that Jehovah God has and currently as of now continues to use the WTB&TS to disseminate and publish general biblical truth to this Satanic world.

      Do not be fooled . . . THIS IS the One True Religion—despite it’s errors in doctrinal understanding. So go ahead, continue to make spiritual progress; dedicate your life to Jehovah through this Son Jesus Christ, and make that dedication known through public baptism. And always remember, your heartfelt dedication is to the true God Jehovah—not a fallible instrument He is using

      I hope this helps a bit. May God continue to bless you as you search for, and indeed find the truth.

    • Welcome welcome welcome Sienna,

      We’re all addicted to some sort of bad habit , don’t let that make you feel unworthy. You will beat this!
      Nice to have you here, don’t be a stranger.

      Brother Joseph

      • sienna

        Thank you so much lovely Brothers for your wonderful. words of encouragement and I believe that Jehovah has answered I know its the Truth even if their is some errors in their teaching which is why I am so glad i found Brother Roberts site.

        • Burt Reynolds

          Lovely to meet you here sienna. Come back soon. Always welcome.

        • LW


    • Bklyn Kevin

      Welcome sienna nice to have you with us.

      May the God who gives hope fill you with all joy and peace by your trusting in him, so that you may abound in hope with power of holy spirit. Romans 15:13.

    • Volcanic

      Welcome Sienna, yaaay, another sister to love. We are none of us here Judges, so of course you are accepted, because Jehovah is our Father, therefore we are all family & it’s lovely to see you, make sure you stick around please 🙂

    • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

      Hi Respected Sienna,

      I don’t know you are a brother or a sister, all I can say is that we all love you and accept you. But I like to give one advice on your smoking. My elder (fleshly) brother is a Pharmacist and he said that there is a secret link between the tobacco company and the Pharmaceutical company they are one and the same. The tobacco company sells cigarettes and make money people give money and buy sick and the same person goes to buy medicines which is beneficial to Pharmaceutical companies. Do you see the link? Smoking is one kind of method for depopulation and killing at young age. It is the MNCs and bankers who profit from these, my
      brother knows a person who is a board of director for a tobacco company, he said that many of board of directors themselves don’t smoke or in some cases they pretend to smoke, they always encourage their children not to smoke. Just think of this. You just catch some trains India. It is an advertisement displayed on the train itself by the Ministry of Health Government of India stating in a very big and block letters Smoking Kills/Tobacco causes Cancer with real cancerous images of mouth and lungs. But still think why do Government allow cigarettes? Because Tobacco and Pharmaceutical companies lobby the election candidates with money for their election campaign. I know a famous tobacco manufacturer here in India, he himself don’t use his own product just think why is it so? Here in North Karnataka people use lot of tobacco based products and has the highest incident of esophagus, lung and stomach cancer. So now think will you die for the agendas of bankers? or will you quit smoking for Jehovah and Jesus. If you die for the agenda of bankers and MNC companies you are dead. But if you quit smoking and sacrifice for Jehovah and Jesus will lead to Salvation for you and forever. Smoking is one kind of committing suicide encouraged by evil people behind the scene. I think so you got it. Quit Smoking and sure Jehovah will accept you through Jesus and bless you now and forever.

      • LW

        Bam! Someone finally hit the nail on the head. Those people have their evil depopulation agenda and using hard-kill and soft-kill methods to achieve that.

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  • patri

    Oh good ol’ uncle Freddy with his “possessed ” total recall which I’d liken to “channelling” thereby stitching up Bethel by their forever more having to plaster and whitewash the 1914 doctrinal wall. He impressively recited verse by verse the entire chapter of Isaiah and didn’t understand one word of it!!! Thankfully we know someone who does… New beginnings indeed…
    Hello sienna, I’m running late with the commentaries so good to see you here. For what its worth, I don’t feel confident in saying anything either, believe it or not, most of us are fighting to get our confidence back, so no worries about that my sister.

  • sally

    Hi all, I am very much like Sienna, I am new to this site, a bible student of a year, and had my world rocked by suddenly finding out that what I have been taught seems to be misguided at the very least. I am still trying to come to terms with it and cannot speak to my study sister or her husband who is an elder, or anyone from the congregation I am attending, I have spent the past week reading this site trying to somehow make it all go away if that makes sense. I actually wanted Roberts site not to make sense but it does I cannot deny that. I was in a comfy place. I know Jehovah is real, I love him and believe in his promises. Just over a year ago there was no “god” in my life and never had been. I too am trying to give up smoking, and am still very much a new learner to the truth. I have taken it quite badly to be honest, not learning about Jehovah, but coming to a realization that some issues that have been building up in me over the past couple of months are not without foundation. I also thank Robert for this website and I will continue to learn (silently) and find a way forward to manage my study, attendance at meetings and the convention. Sorry for rambling in my opening post, but I am still reeling. I also hope to progress and some day get baptised, so I will find my path forward hopefully with all of your support!!

    • Kevin b

      It’s very nice to hear from you Sally. It is a lot to take in. When I first learned the real truth, I have to admit, I was angry about being lied too for so many years. It’s hard not being able to share the things you are learning here with others, you just have to work through it the best way you can. With help from Jehovah, hopefully you will meet your goal of baptism. You have found a wonderful place here at the watchmans post. I welcome you with open arms.

    • 1914for100Alex

      Hi Sally, and welcome to the site. I can’t personally relate to those that are current JW’s finding this site, but at the same time, having been one, I feel like I know the affect it would have had. They are so sure they’re right, and you better believe it too if you want to be one. In some ways it’s admirable. I mean, who wants to belong to a religion where the attitude is “we might be right”. But it has it’s shortfalls too. Especially when there’s no room for questions.

      If it’s any consolation, imagine how much worse you would be feeling if you didn’t know any of this once the Tribulation starts. As with others here, you may have found this information just in time and be in a position to help the Witnesses that will listen when they need answers. How did you come about this site?

    • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

      Welcome welcome! You are very mature to realize that you can’t discuss this “stuff” (truths) with your teacher. I’m way too trigger happy….it takes A LOT of self control and prayer to not shout from the rooftops what I’m learning here….because it makes so much sense from the Bible. We are here supporting each other and to support you. When I hear of experiences like you….that you came to know Jehovah via this earthly organization, it reminds me that the WT has served an important purpose and it’s not time yet to shout “the emperor has lost his clothes!” (and subsequently “get out of her”)
      Yes….how did you find this site? Again, welcome!

    • Joe Dman

      Welcome Sally. It seems overwhelming to learn the truths about prophecy on this site and then what the Watchtower teaches. It is clear that Robert has the correct understanding. When I first started digging in to this site, I kind of wanted to try to skip over the quotes about what the Watchtower teaches so that I wouldn’t get confused, but fortunately I went ahead and read them. Just keep reading (especially the book) and listening to the archived podcasts. The quote that I’m sure you’ve heard about the light getting brighter (Prov 4:18) and how the Watchtower applies that to their “adjusted understanding” of scriptures, it really applies to us as individuals and if you read the whole paragraph you’ll see that. As you continue your search and Jehovah sees your sincerity, your light will get brighter and he will declare you righteous. Many here are active witnesses (according to the WT), some are not. Occasionally someone will show up that tries to relate their own interpretations, but they don’t tend to last long and you will quickly see it.
      Alexandra is very active in her congregation and she’s pretty bold when it comes to subtly expressing truths she’s learned to her congregates. You are in a unique position as a student prior to baptism. Once you get familiar with the information and you feel comfortable doing it, you can question your “teachers” without fear of getting df’d. I’m sure Alexandra can give you some pointers. But don’t worry about that now, just keep learning. It’s encouraging for us to see new ones here.

    • Volcanic

      Sally, it’s you isn’t it? I am soooo happy you decided to join us. I’m truly sorry I rocked your world by posting from this site on FB, but it got you into a good place now. You had some issues building up inside you & you have the sense to question some things, I know that & that is why you were led here, I’m certain of it. I was the same & so was everyone else here. But, we are more settled now knowing the actual truth of things & although it’s pretty terrifying to know the things that are really about to come upon us, surely it is better to be forewarned. Some of the witnesses will be horribly shocked when the coming things happen & I feel so sorry for the fact that they have been misled.
      Sally, Jehovah will look after us all, I know it, after all He brought us here!

      Hugs, Annie

  • sally

    Hi all and thank you very much for the welcome! It was Volcanic that led me here a couple of weeks ago it has always been told to me not to go on any sites aside from JW.Org and I had made a point of doing that but the posts from here were provoking and I needed to read. I also had accumulated a lot of questions and felt that I needed to see if I could get answers here. I am still unsure what to think to be honest, I love to learn, but the last year I have learnt more than I have previously done in my lifetime! I feel I am at brain explosion point! I have this weekend attended the convention (last day tomorrow) I have enjoyed it and found it to be well run, but of course, a lot different to what is found on this site. I am still trying to sift through it all and make sense of it. I will most probably have a ton of questions in the next few weeks to I hope that will be ok, I got to ask them somewhere.

    • Sam

      So glad that you’re here with us Sally! Keep reading and praying…don’t hesitate to ask any questions. We always tend to think our questions are silly, but this bunch is very patient and helpful. If you haven’t already, start on Robert’s book. It will break things down methodically for you 🙂

    • Go and enjoy your final assembly day tomorrow. It’s so exciting to be new to the truth and learn all the wonderful things about Jehovah and Jesus!! Your welcome to bring your difficult questions here for any of us to help you though.

    • Alexandra Bogolin Bautista

      Ask ask ask. “Keep knocking!” Matthew 7:7 Luke 11:9
      I asked (and still do) many questions when I first found this site. I still use and articles, but when it comes to prophecy, this has become a valuable resource.

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