Baptisms and anointing.

//Baptisms and anointing.

Commentary on Jehovah’s Witnesses Daily Text

Friday, June 2

Tongues as if of fire . . . came to rest on each one of them.Acts 2:3.

If you were one of the disciples who experienced that, you would never forget that day. There would be no question in your mind that you were anointed by holy spirit, especially if you also received the miraculous gift of speaking in a foreign language.  But do all those who are anointed by holy spirit receive their anointing in the same spectacular manner as that first group of about 120 disciples did? No. The rest of those who were present in Jerusalem that day received their anointing at their baptism.  There was no tongue as if of fire above their heads. Furthermore, not all anointed Christians receive their anointing at their baptism. The Samaritans received their anointing by holy spirit sometime after their baptism. On the other hand, in an exceptional instance, Cornelius and his household were anointed by holy spirit even before they were baptized.

Some years ago the concept of anointing was peculiar to Jehovah’s Witnesses. In recent decades, however, it seems that evangelicals have picked up on it —not surprisingly, claiming that all Christians are anointed, which is merely a variation of the ages-long false teaching that heaven is the only destination of all the saved.

But were all Christians in the first century anointed? No, they were not. The account in the 18th chapter of Acts tells of a Jewish man named Apollos, saying of him: “he was an eloquent man who was well-versed in the Scriptures. This man had been instructed in the way of Jehovah, and aglow with the spirit, he was speaking and teaching accurately the things about Jesus, but he was acquainted only with the baptism of John. He began to speak boldly in the synagogue, and when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him. Further, because he wanted to go across to Achaia, the brothers wrote to the disciples, urging them to receive him kindly. So when he got there, he greatly helped those who through God’s undeserved kindness had become believers; for publicly and with great intensity he thoroughly proved the Jews to be wrong, showing them from the Scriptures that Jesus is the Christ.”

Note that Apollos was “aglow with the spirit,” meaning he had God’s spirit, and he also knew the truth and taught it effectively. But he was only acquainted with the baptism of John; meaning, Apollos was not anointed, which is apparent by what is stated in the following 19th chapter. That account relates: “In the course of events, while Apollos was in Corinth, Paul went through the inland regions and came down to Ephesus. There he found some disciples and said to them: ‘Did you receive holy spirit when you became believers?’ They replied to him: ‘Why, we have never heard that there is a holy spirit.’ So he said: ‘In what, then, were you baptized?’ They said: ‘In John’s baptism.’ Paul said: ‘John baptized with the baptism in symbol of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.’ On hearing this, they got baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul laid his hands on them, the holy spirit came upon them, and they began speaking in foreign languages and prophesying. There were about 12 men in all.”

The 120 Jews who were anointed on the day of Pentecost were evidently all baptized in the baptism of John only. It was not necessary that they be baptized in Jesus’ name since they were all personally acquainted with him. However, after Pentecost it became necessary for Jewish believers to be baptized in the name of Jesus in order to receive the anointing spirit. Nevertheless, the point is, even those believers who had not been baptized in the name of Jesus and who were not anointed were considered believers and, as in the case of Apollos, were impelled by the spirit to preach and teach.

These accounts in Acts are there for a reason —providing scriptural support for the teaching that not all followers of Christ are anointed. Of course, Apollos and the other dozen were eventually anointed when they were baptized in the name of Jesus. But the fact remains that they were regarded as believers prior to their anointing. And in the case of Apollos, the account makes the point of showing that he was an active preacher and teacher without the anointing by the spirit.

John’s baptism parallels the baptism Jehovah’s Witnesses undergo. Apollos typifies the many of Jehovah’s Witnesses today who are preachers and teachers, who are also aglow with the spirit, but who do not consider themselves to be anointed. Whereas, those who are called into the Kingdom, while also baptized in symbol of repentance, are baptized by the holy spirit.

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2017-06-02T09:36:17+00:00 June 2nd, 2017|Commentary|102 Comments
  • i wish i were anointed

    • “So, then, it depends, not on a person’s desire or on his effort, but on God, who has mercy.” Romans 9:16

      • Max

        So brother King, could you please elaborate in your personal experience how did you know you were anointed? I have always asked myself what brothers really feel being anointed.

        • About 7-8 years ago I spoke about it on podcast #18. Can’t really remember what I said though

          • Max

            Wow that was a very good podcast. Thank you!!

    • Max

      You might not be, but you one day will be a son of God almighty just as the anointed class and they will take care of you as one of Jehovah’s most precious creation.

    • a watcher

      Be careful what you wish for; you may get it.
      Being one of the anointed is a mixed BLESSING.

      • oh yeah? what do you know?

        • a watcher

          I know that it’s been a mixed blessing for Robert.

          • unsure what you mean by mixed but
            i dont know if i should think Jehovah is a God that would give mixed blessings but undiluted blessings with no mix

    • Nigel

      There’s no harm in asking, dear brother.
      Luke 11:9-13
      James 4:2

    • Richard Long

      No judgement, DA, but may I ask why you wish to be annointed?

  • Vasilios Agio

    I thought I was anointed once . The elders were asking me questions about it , about how I felt etc , I just said I felt diff about the new system , whenever I thought of the new system I always imagined being above looking down and sitting under a tree eating fruit just couldn’t imagine that at all I just felt more spiritual than physical . It’s extremely hard to explain this sense or feeling and and when I looked up into the sky day or night in my minds eye I could see a figure and angels or spirit beings all around the whole horizon . I know this sounds crazy but it’s true . I don’t have any mental disorders or delusional behaviour and I don’t take tablets for anything other than I was depressed in my twenties once coz my then girlfriend got taped by a guy who escaped jail and broke into her bedroom in the middle of the night with a towel around his head , he nearly killed her and I was too young to deal with the anger so I got depressed couldn’t sleep etc . Anyway way off track when I got disfellowshipped I feel different about anointed feelings . I truly can’t explain how I felt it was more spiritual than physical .

  • Vasilios Agio

    Oh I just remembered , I felt like I was being called . Like I just new I was a part of something greater or like a part of a governing body but in the spiritual sense not physically . Basically it was a spiritual feeling that is beyond words it’s a diff language , u can’t speak it you can feel it , it’s beautiful and unique in a way . I get down about it nowadays coz I think I may have been tested because I always had a weakness too the flesh and I went under temptation and I failed basically but at the same time I felt Jehovah’s hand warning me . I can share some stories of Jehovah helping me if anyone wishes to know . I fell asleep at the wheel of my car once at night and when I woke my foot had pressed to execelerater and I Wass doing close to 200 km an hr . When I lifted my head off the steering wheel as I woke with tremendous shock I looked up and I was only like about 6 car spaces away from the rear end of a huge truck , we call them semi trailers . So I then just knew I was going to collide with a couple seconds at a very high speed so I pulled the steering to the right into the overtaking lane . This was in a very remote area between Hamilton and Ballarat , Victoria Australia on a huge straight stretch of road that went for miles and so as I turned my wheel not thinking of any in coming tragic was approaching my car spun out of control like being in a washing machine and I felt the feeling of imminent death so I literally called out to Jehovah in a loud voice , I yelled his name once and I felt that instant like someone from above grabbed the car and it straightened . It stopped spinning instantly and I was in reverse . The automatic transmission went into neutral by itself and I rolled backwards along side this huge truck and all I had to guide me was his side lights that were all along the length of his truck it was very well lit up and at times I was only inches away from coliliding into his side and I was going so fast in reverse that I was overtaking him . He was a good driver he didn’t put his brakes on he saw this happening and without having any vision other than his lights I steered the car until I overtook him and I was then facing him and my car eventually slowed down . The brakes just didn’t work well in reverse I don’t know why . As I sat in front of him he was staring at me thru his window screen in amazement like he couldn’t believe what happened and as I looked at him in shock I thanked Jehovah coz I knew someth phenomenal had occurred because from spinning out of control at 200 km an hr to mentioning Jehovah my car suddenly stopped in an instant before I could finish screaming his name it stopped and parallel to the truck I steered myself into safety . I praiseand thank Jehovah regularly for this coz I know I would not have made it past the age of 23 if I didn’t call to him .

    • Huldah

      When we were pioneering in a remote town in WV, the brothers were always talking about a certain Circuit Overseer. I think his name is Joel Freeman. He is anointed.

      He told them a similar story of having a car accident and a strong sense that Jehovah intervened to keep him from being injured.
      I don’t have details since I never met him myself.

      • Vasilios Agio

        Amazing . When a car spins out of control at 200 km an hrs you feel sick to the stomach and dizzy worse than any show ride but as I mentioned I didn’t consciensly think to call out to Jehovah it just subcomsciensly happened I screamed his name as like your about to die and basically the instant I called his name it straightened up like Someone grabbed the car it’s unexplainable . Yes sister thankyou for sharing this I suppose many have had similar experiences . May I say this , in my life Jehovah has not only is he In my mind and heart as my true God and Heavenly Father but he has shown himself to me not visually ofcourse but in ways that I know it was his answer to many things in my life . Another time he gave me an immediate answer to a question in prayer to him but That’s another story wonderful sister . Better keep to brother Roberts baptism and anointed theme . U have to forgive me I go off track a lot lol .

      • Vasilios Agio

        VW ? Western Victoria ?

        • Joseph S.

          West Virginia, USA
          Blue ridge mountains!!!!!
          Wild and wonderful

          • Vasilios Agio

            Sounds like Clint Eastwood country .sorry but still apreciate a good western lol

            • Huldah

              Sounds more west than it is. I consider it East Coast.
              You can get to Washington DC in about an hours drive from parts of the state. At 3 am on a Sunday morning, but don’t try it at rush hour. Lol
              Nonetheless lots of guns, beef cattle and small horse farms but its no Texas.

          • Burt Reynolds

            Waltons mountain, Joseph-Bob.

          • Vasilios Agio

            I Always wanted to be a cowboy lol

            • Richard Long

              more likely to be a coal miner than a cowboy in Virginia. Or a thoroughbred breeder.

            • Joseph S.

              True,
              You gotta go to Texas if you want to be a cowboy!

            • Richard Long

              Or Mexico. Those vaqueros are world class horseman, in high demand on KY horse farms!

            • Vasilios Agio

              Yeeee hahhh !!!

        • #savekevin

          Warrnambool?

          • Vasilios Agio

            It was actually on along stretch of road near dunkeld between Hamilton and Linton near the Grampians . If that Rd wasn’t so straight I wouldn’t be texting this message . I was heading to mount gambier as I was cutting trees down in the south east area but from where I fell asleep at the wheel of I took a left turn and traveled about 150 km of get to Warrnambool near Colac which is close to the great ocean Rd . Nice areas , a apollo bay is nice .

            • Nigel

              Do you live in Victoria? (I live in Melbourne…)

            • Vasilios Agio

              Not anymore . I once lived in freezing cold Ballarat . I had a forestry contract there and I also had some guys working in mount gambier in the south east region , blue lake city . Love Melbourne .i am now in Adelaide and I soent some years in Queensland in between .

      • Vasilios Agio

        Without putting you on high may I commend your awesome comments as your spirituality shines thru your words . Although imperfect such as myself you are a truly wonderful sister and I am very glad to have met you and may I add that your comments and input have inspired me truly . I miss the brotherhood and I feel at home here and I truly wish to thank all of you wonderful brothers and sisters .

        • Huldah

          Thank you. I’m so glad to have others to discuss spiritually deep things with. I’ve had to keep so much to myself for so long.

          Sorry about WV. I forgot it’s an international site.
          VW sounds nice though, but Joseph’s right West Virginia.

          You should read Perimeno’s life story on
          Perimeno.ca.com
          He’s a former Circuit Overseer.
          He had similar experiences to you as have I.

          I’d like to hear what you think of his story as it relates to your experiences.

          It’s not crazy to believe Jehovah is more involved than most think he is.

          • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

            Do you really like to discuss spiritually deep things then contact me at easajw@gmail.com

            • NOAHtheARKist

              Is that an open invitation Brother?

            • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

              Yes it is as I want to exchange my thoughts and also find whether my works are true by others.

          • J.M.J.

            I read Roberts site and Perimeno`s almost every day . I also take time to dwell on what both have to say ,as they are both similar in the truth they are telling ,but both have separate strengths .This was the same as the apostles as can been noticed when reading the bible .

          • Vasilios Agio

            I will do that sister . No doubting Jehovah . I’m sure many have called upon him in time of need . I used to think that Jehovah was absent from us due to our sinful state but looking back thru the years he’s been carrying me all that time and my prayers have been answered . U just don’t see it at that time but u see it later it’s wonderful

          • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

            I have replied to your mail

        • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

          Welcome Welcome It is Jesus who has the authority to forgive not WTS so if you are wounded by WTS leave them they are greater sinners than an unrepentant sinner as they have hidden the child abuse cases and their membership with the UN for 10 years and used their resources such as Awake magazine to advertise the achievements of UN. So I encourage keep believing in Jehovah and Jesus not WTS

          • Vasilios Agio

            Thankyou so much . Bye I remember seeing things in the awake in the early 90s or maybe mid 90 s coz I loved the awake and it was usually always in an article in the back on how the UN (beast ) helped so and so and I found this strange back then but I never questioned it I was blind . I was just interested in doing tons on field service and I feel like Jehovah has opened our eyes . I see things now I could never see before . I never believed in 1914 since the 80s wen I was told but just accepted it as truth .

            • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

              Yeah I hear you clearly

  • Vasilios Agio

    I’m sorry to comment again , I don’t wish to clutter brother Roberts wonderful information in baptism and the anointed but I saw a video of the governing body sitting at a long table signing bibles like Rick stars and many witnesses lining up like idol worshippers of men . I couldn’t believe what I saw . I remember one of the governing body he was the same guy who went to Russia recently to oversee the court situation . They was carrying onnlike superstars signing the inner cover of the new bible and handing them out , why would they do this this is idolatry and hautiness from men who should know better . Has anyone else seen this , I think it was on YouTube .

    • “signing the inner cover of the new bible and handing them out ,”

      holy crap!

      • Joseph S.

        Rock Star Status , all on someone else’s dime!
        https://youtu.be/quyB8PMTD3o

        • Vasilios Agio

          Very fitting song brother well done .

          • Song of Hannah

            Did they really do this? Because old WT articles have condemned the practice of coveting autographs from others as idolatry! I’ll have to try to find one… well as Jehovah said, “They kept turning their backs to me, not their faces; although I tried to teach them again and again, none of them would listen to receive discipline. And they put their disgusting idols in the house that bears my name, in order to defile it.” (Jer 32:33-34)

            • Joseph S.
            • Song of Hannah

              Here’s the WT references regarding autographs:

              *** w93 1/15 pp. 28-29 par. 15 Guard Against Idolatry of Every Sort ***
              15 God’s people also refrain from idolizing the world’s stars of entertainment and sports. After becoming a Witness of Jehovah, one musician said: “Music for entertainment and for dancing can arouse wrong desires . . . The performer sings about happiness and tenderness that many listeners may feel is missing in their partner. The artist often comes to be identified with what he is singing about. Some professionals I know are for this reason real favorites with women. Once someone is submerged in this world of fantasy, it can lead to his idolizing the performer. It may begin quite harmlessly by a person’s asking for an autograph as a souvenir. But some come to view the artist as their ideal, and by putting him on a pedestal, they make him into an idol. They may hang the star’s picture on the wall and begin to dress and groom themselves as he does. Christians need to keep in mind that adoration belongs only to God.”

              16 Yes, only God deserves adoration or worship. When John “fell down to worship before the feet of the angel” that showed him amazing things, that spirit creature refused to be idolized in any way but said: “Be careful! Do not do that! All I am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who are prophets and of those who are observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.” (Revelation 22:8, 9) Fear of Jehovah, or deep reverence for him, makes us worship him alone. (Revelation 14:7) Thus, true godly devotion safeguards us from idolatry.—1 Timothy 4:8.

              *** w72 9/1 p. 539 Do You Give Undue Prominence to Creatures? ***
              In sports, how do you feel about the local team, or a team you may favor? Today outstanding athletes are celebrated as heroes, their “fans” or devotees being anxious to follow their pattern, eat the same food and wear the same styles of clothing. There is a great clamor for their autographs. Sometimes bitter disputes, even fierce fights are waged over players or teams, and large sums of money are bet on them.

              How does this constitute the worship of “dungy idols”? Not that there is necessarily anything wrong about the team or the game. Nor can the “hero” himself be singled out as worse than other men. It is the effect on the “fan” and his attitude that constitutes worship. Merely because such athletes have strong bodies and good coordination, should they be idolized? Aside from these abilities, what kind of persons are they? Are they persons whose pattern of life should be imitated? Do they have the qualities of love, kindness, faith in God, joy, peace, self-control? Does following their way exalt God? Do they themselves exalt God’s name or their own? Moreover, no matter what kind of person he is, no man should be idolized.

              *** g88 8/8 pp. 14-15 A Musician Chooses Real Harmony ***
              Once someone is submerged in this world of fantasy, it can lead to his idolizing the performer. It may begin quite harmlessly by a person’s asking for an autograph as a souvenir. But some come to view the artist as their ideal, and by putting him on a pedestal, they make him into an idol. They may hang the star’s picture on the wall and begin to dress and groom themselves as he does, thus relinquishing their own personality. And Christians need to keep in mind that adoration belongs only to God.
              How does this constitute the worship of “dungy idols”? Not that there is necessarily anything wrong about the team or the game. Nor can the “hero” himself be singled out as worse than other men. It is the effect on the “fan” and his attitude that constitutes worship. Merely because such athletes have strong bodies and good coordination, should they be idolized? Aside from these abilities, what kind of persons are they? Are they persons whose pattern of life should be imitated? Do they have the qualities of love, kindness, faith in God, joy, peace, self-control? Does following their way exalt God? Do they themselves exalt God’s name or their own? Moreover, no matter what kind of person he is, no man should be idolized.

            • Vasilios Agio

              This is true , it’s one thing to idolise , I played in a band when I was young , I play guitar and sing and was popular with local girls I recall . I don’t play anymore I have it up wen I was baptised because I feel that music is satanic . But to put yourself in a position tonne worshipped is far worse in my opinion , this is taking glory away from Jehovah and that’s what satan is trying to do . I wasn’t born in the truth , I was very worldly thru my twenties . Here’s a good one for you . When I was 27 I was working as a lumber jack , we call then tree fellers . I was cutting pinus radiate down for a living . The forestry department took us to a very remote place 50 km out of town deep in the forest and this place looked like man had never walked there not for many years only kangaroo tracks could be seen . It was the first day and when you cut pine down you take one complete row of tree out .thats your center row where the forwarder comes and picks up your posts after being cut to size and stacked .this forest was about 3 km of the main Rd into thick scrub . I had worked most of the morning and I wen into the plantation quite far and as I cut I was progressing up the hill which made felling easy . At about midday on this sunny day I spotted a man in a tie stumbling over all the limbs and the slash as it is called and he was battling to reach me . As he got closer I noticed he was wearing a suit and I got worried I thought he may have been a detective . Wen home climbed the hill he introduced himself as Alex Bihio , he was a Jehovah’s Witness who was doing rurals and got lost and went into the forest to turn around and they couldn’t find there way back out so he heard my chain saw noise and pursued me and we got talking and we set up a bible study on that day and later we met in town on an agreed day and he helped me along my path of the truth . This is why I always think to myself that no matter where you are Jehovah will find you . If I could show you where this brother ended up you would not believe the story that’s how remote it was .

            • Huldah

              I rember a recent WT with a picture of a CO? and his wife and the congregation crowding around to take pictures as if they were stars. It was warning against idolizing men.

            • Craig
            • KB

              True. They warn against doing such things in print but they seem to suffer from the do as I say , not as I do mentally. They have put themselves up on a pedestal so to speak on the monthly broadcasts and in other areas. For some reason people seem to want to idolize others. Truth is, I’m sure they enjoy the attention. But what does Jehovah think? This organization has definitely changed in the last few years. Not for the better.

            • Huldah

              True as you say even moreso in the last decade. The apostasy is here.The Keep on the Watch brochure predicted that tests would come as to how we view material things.
              That was before thr free money debt extravaganza called Quantitative Easing.
              Everyone is drunk on all that free money including “the drunkards of Ephraim.”

              I can’t help but think that has a lot to do with the rapid decline of the organization into greater apostasy. Moses predicted that Jehovahs people would forget their god when they got too comfortable in the promised land.

            • Vasilios Agio

              Yes truly ! I would never bare false witness about anyth that involves Jehovah this is a grave sin to do so . It was at a time while searching for the truth just before I came across brother Robert in you tube that I was watching a lot of negative stuff about the org . It wasn’t just a short video of them signing autographs all on a long table I think it was all of them I’d have to most of them I remember that brother from Russia recently he was one of them had a big smile as he handed to bible to a lady . They was signing hundreds very fast but it was a video about the watchtower and its falsities and I got drawn into investigating everything and it was a part of a lengthy video that’s why I cNt find it . There’s so much stuff out there but it’s 100 percent real . I wouldn’t mention this if I didn’t see it with my own eyes .

            • Song of Hannah

              I’m so sorry! I absolutely believe you. That was meant as a rhetorical question – not an actual question. It’s just so shocking that it’s hard to believe. I definitely believe you, dear brother.

            • Vasilios Agio

              I understood you correctly good brother but I just wanted to re assure everyone that it was true . I know I’m new to you guys but I’ve been sitting back reading and enjoying the comments on brother Roberts site for at least couple years now . I can respect how people may feel when someone new starts commenting and saying things that are unbelievable . It was a live video not a pic . It was apart of a lengthy video about the org from what I can recall . I’ve searched all my liked videos and most of my history on YouTube but I can’t find it . When I saw this I was very shocked . It was like a bunch of elvises signing copies of his latest Lp release to fans it just wasn’t right lol . If I find it I will post the link for sure . The only person that took my attention was the brother who went to Russia recently .

            • Richard Long

              The brother who recently went to Russia, was indicted as a phony by our friend Lev when we were discussing the ban and the letter writing campaign.

            • Vasilios Agio

              I Missed’ this comment . Can u elaborate on the phony part please brother Richard thankyou

            • Richard Long

              Lev is a brother IN Russia.. See it in his own words. Will be in the discussion on the commentary of the letter writing campaign,

              https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-witnesses-respond-russias-religious-ban/

            • Vasilios Agio

              Good sister I should say my apologies to you my lovely sister .

            • Richard Long

              Can’t speak for Robert, but I think this is like a game a close friend and I used to play as dumb teens, called “Chew and Show”. When out, the nicer restaurant the better, we would simultaneously “chew and show” what we were eating. I would have likely never seen this information had you not brought it up, and I think I NEEDED to see it.

            • Arvid Fløysand

              If we imagine the temple in Ezekiels days was supposed to be the finest “restaurant”,than the account in Ezekiel capter 8 would be Jehovahs way of preforming the “Chew and Show” to Ezekiel…it made him sick to see what he saw..i wonder how is the condision in the spiritual temple today?I belive Daniels prayer in chapter 9 regarding the temple is what is going on right now…we must all of us repent in the similar manner as Daniel did and pray humbley for the “temple” to be restored…I also belive what Daniel did is a parallel for what the chosen ones in these last days has to do to “egnite” the whole thing…So yes it is ugly what we see and are going to see..but no one of us stands without guilt …now we are able to see the ugly and unclean just like Ezekiel and Daniel did…Therfore it is time for us to do just like they did…(ps.Daniel preformed his prayer about 3 years before the 70 years ended..counted from the year he and his friends where led in captivity to Babylon)…:-)

            • Richard Long

              Right Hannah! I mean we all know we had come to Idolize the WT, but for me personally the gravity of the depravity we were all looking at but not seeing feels like a kick in the gut just now.

        • Richard Long

          Miss the music of Phil Lynott. Thin Lizzy produced a lot of good blues rock too. And then the drugs got him.

      • Craig
        • Hmmmm. I wonder what an autographed copy of the NWT would fetch on ebay?

          • Vasilios Agio

            Hahaha nice one . Looked like they was going out like hot cakes . Id understand the situation if they actually wrote the scriptures … I wish I had the link but I don’t unfortunately .

            • NOAHtheARKist
            • NOAHtheARKist

              I think this is what you are looking for, I saw this also…what a “disgusting thing” to see standing in a holy place, pun intended!

            • NOAHtheARKist

              FYI, I am NOT trying to promote any site, If I am in error for sharing this I apologize and I will delete…

          • Joseph S.

            1 Autographed copy NWT. $0.00
            2 Chinese Marble and Granite @ Bethel $750,456.95
            3 State-of-the-art geothermal heating and cooling at Bethel $1,567,895.87
            4 Bethel’s new headquarters $850,654,873.82
            5. Jehovah’s judgement on the WTBTS,
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1273ff3e660ef89a79a16e7dff53de270757c7a985ebd00f27c375338e580c9b.jpg
            PRICELESS!

            • Burt Reynolds

              Would you like a signed copy of the Book of Burt? My daughter wrote her name in it and the dog ‘signed’ it too with a muddy paw. There is an old copy of ‘Wild Bill Rides Shotgun for Wells Fargo’ dated 1878 pasted in the back which youll enjoy and it comes with the first edition of the watchtower’s ‘Caleb and his sidekick spend their pocket money on icecream and get an hour on the naughty step.’

          • Burt Reynolds

            $6.66ct.

          • Richard Long

            Isn’t the AUTHOR of the book supposed to be the one autographing it?

        • Richard Long

          That’s just bloody obscene. Notice the caption that they were signing as gifts for public officials?

    • Song of Hannah

      Can some one post a link to this, which seems a much more recent occurance than the one from the 99 WT.

      • Vasilios Agio

        I’m still Searching . I do go to Internet cafes sometimes and watch videos on the big screens and this may be why it’s not in my history or liked or fav videos . It was a lengthy video explaining false prophets etc and watchtower stuff .

      • Vasilios Agio

        I’ve been looking I haven’t given up on that one but the problem is it’s in the middle of a lengthy video and this is why I can’t find it . A long table and the brother who went to Russia recently was at the edge of this long table signing a bible like a rock star and many sisters and bros lining up to get there copy from there rock star idols . If I come across it I will let everyone know for sure .

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    I really had the doubt when the GBs were saying that they were
    anointed.I had that doubt becasue I was just wondering myself how they
    are different from us? But a fine day came in 2010 that I came along
    this watchman’s website when I read about Robert King I also thought he
    is another fake because he claimed to be anointed. But I was so
    depressed I just gave the try yes if I remember I read the article
    Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Holy Place, that was totally different wow
    this is something different and also it makes sense!!! Then I went
    through the prophecies first Daniel, then later Isaiah, Ezekiel, when it
    made sense then I accepted that Robert is really anointed. The more I
    started believing is when after reading Roberts web I myself could able
    to interpret many scriptures on my own and it made sense, only then I
    came to understand that those who are really anointed if they teach
    others the students also posses extraordinary ability just as Timothy
    from Paul. Yes I posses that ability form Robert by diligent study from
    his website, but when I was studying only from WTS I did not had the
    same effect. To my surprise I experimented on my wife by teaching her
    from watchman’s web, now she also can interpret the things as I am.
    This really shows who are really anointed and not anointed. I therefore
    fully agree with the paragraph:- John’s baptism parallels the baptism
    Jehovah’s Witnesses undergo. Apollos typifies the many of Jehovah’s
    Witnesses today who are preachers and teachers, who are also aglow with
    the spirit, but who do not consider themselves to be anointed.Yes this
    statement is really true 100/100 marks for Robert King.

    I don’t
    know whether it is right or wrong why from 2015 on wards there is an
    inner feeling of may be I can say a strong craving to get anointed. If I
    am wrong please correct me anyone in that mater I am ready to accept
    where I am wrong or is it just a feeling? I am not under any medication
    till now I am a teetotaler from the beginning? Will Jehovah through
    Jesus going to use me in future and that is why that craving effect is
    there so that I should tell the truth what I posses now? I don’t know
    why now I am leading a Nazarene vow although no one forced me? Why there
    is an intense force in myself to go and read the scriptures even though
    no one is forcing me from 2011? And if I read any scriptures I
    understand in depth which I did not experience previously. A sample of
    my interpretation is reflected in many of my articles which was written
    by myself. I have interpreted uniquely about the Zech:3rd Chapter, 12th
    chapter of Revelation in depth and about the concept of Sun becoming
    dark, moon becoming blood and stars of the heavens falling like a fig
    fruits due to the wind and it is nowhere else found in others thought
    nor in the internet! If anybody wants to examine I like to give to
    everyone who are associated in this website freely and there is little
    spelling mistakes to be corrected. I promised a few that I will give to
    them well if I remember it is for Robert himself, Daisy, kevinb 1914,
    baruq, BklyKevin, I will keep up my promise shortly they will surely
    receive.

    With warm Christian love easajw@gmail.com.

    • Vasilios Agio

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences . I had a similar situation . A few years ago I got fed up with it all and wanted to really seek the truth and so I started to pray intensely and asking Jehovah if he could show me the way and help me . I told him I was unhappy at what I had seen and the treatment I was getting and I started reading the bible cover to cover and searching the net and after about 6 months I came across brother Roberts YouTube vids . It was like fresh air I knew instantly he was true . I couldn’t believe my ears then I cold cold feet and wondered if it was as Paul wrote in romans about creating diff meaning out of the truth and causing division or steering away from what we was taught but as the videos kept rolling in and I found this site and then I read all of Jehovah has become king and then suddenly i think in 2012 or 13 I’m a July watchtower I noticed the org changed the idea that they was not given care over Jesus belongings and I had read this in Roberts book and I knew on that day Robert was a true prophet and he understands scripture well so I’m sure we all had this moment of truth . If we seek Jehovah he never let’s us down

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Yeah so true. Well keep in contact

    • that is what we call ‘making the truth your own’, in contrast to makng whatever the WT says out to be truth just because its the GB/WT

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Oh thanks a lot I got the meaning making the truth your own

    • your refinement is very uplifting brother may jehova’h continue to bless you with an accurate knowledge and may the waters of truth purify your heart.

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Oh thanks a lot

  • Huldah

    I hadn’t realized that the Wash Post’s new slogan is “Democracy dies in darkness”.
    Sounds about right.
    As a prophecy I mean.

    Apparently Bezos got it from the guy who wrote All the President’s Men.

    Either the demons are jerking us around or Jehs like, “How’s this for writing on the wall, United States?”

  • Huldah

    Here’s something else.
    I was reading my old 1879 WT.

    Normal bedtime fare.

    Russel kept using “Trump” as the word for the trumpets in Revelation.
    Not saying it means anything but very weird to read “the Trump of God”
    “The Seventh Trump” ” The Last Trump” Hope that’s not anything like the seventh Caeser.

    Is trump another word for trumpet?
    I could Google “trump,trumpet”, but I’m not interested in seeing a picture of Donald Trump with a trumpet.

    • Vasilios Agio

      You got a great sense of humour sister . Donald trump with a trumpet hahaha . Seriously that’s a bit odd to use the word trump as apposed to trumpet . Thx

  • JTK

    The topic of Baptism is extensive.it involves water and Spirit and death and life and powers from God
    so at its simplist it is a declaration by a person to God and its most complex it is a declaration by God to a person
    John the Baptist declared that his duty to baptize was one of repentance and preparation for a greater baptism (Matt 3:11)
    when Jesus was baptized he was Batized in water and Spirit and also God verbally conformed that Jesus was His Son.

    So the promised Messiah had arrived.
    Jesus the Christ, or The anointed one was now present with the Jewish people who were in expectation of Him.
    so anyone baptized by John were clearly instructed to seek a greater baptism by the Christ
    Paul confiirms this at acts 19:4 and the Spirit baptism occurred v 5-7

    and so we have Apollos, as Robert points out, Baptized only in repentance not in {yet} the Spirit, however he was fervent in the spirit and was moved to preach to show that Jesus was the Christ and that the Jewish leaders were incorrect.
    this suggests to me that there is a difference between a repentant believer whom the Holy Spirit assists and a Spirit anointed Christian whom the the holy Spirit empowers
    the key word is Christian which has been misunderstood and flippantly labelled by churches and more recently individuals for centuries
    it is the more complex of baptism when Man has chosen God by water symbolism, but then God chooses man by Spirit and man has no power in the greater decision.

    importantly, neither has any organisation any place in this greater baptismal arrangement that God empowers
    1 John 5:5

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