A Primer for the Apocalypse

//A Primer for the Apocalypse

In the post-Flood world God’s purpose began to unfold when he made a covenant with Abraham, indicating that the seed of promise would come through his linage —specifically, through Isaac and Jacob, whom Jehovah renamed Israel. In time the offspring of Israel became a multitudinous nation —like the grains of sand on the seashore, as God had promised his friend, Abraham.

After four centuries in bondage in Egypt the man Moses came on the scene —being used by God to organize the twelve tribes and establish God’s Law covenant with them. Moses also was inspired to begin the writing and compilation of the document we now call the Holy Bible.

Sadly, though, as the historical documentation shows, several centuries after Israel came into the Land of promise the Israelites had become so corrupt that God expelled them; first, the 10 tribes by means of the Assyrians and then some 150 years later Babylon destroyed Judah and Jerusalem —the city where Jehovah had placed his name. All of the books of the prophets relate virtually the same message. First came the exhortation and warnings. Then the execution of judgment. Then a restoration, so that God’s purpose might be accomplished.

After a humbled remnant were repurchased from captivity eventually the promised Messiah arrived. He then organized a new “nation” and made a covenant with them, as Moses had done with Israel. Christ’s congregation was founded upon the 12 apostles —as opposed to the 12 sons of Jacob, which is why the Christian writer, James, referred to his fellow Christians as the “12 tribes that are scattered about.” After a brief transition phase the old covenant became obsolete, at which point God’s dealings with fleshly Israel came to an end —punctuated by the horrific destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman legions.

The foremost Christian writer and teacher of the first century was Paul. He explained much about the place Israel had occupied and how the true “Israel of God” was actually composed of anointed followers of Christ out of all races —not just Jews. For example in the 9th chapter of Romans Paul explained: “For not all who descend from Israel are really “Israel.” Neither are they all children because they are Abraham’s offspring; rather, “What will be called your offspring will be through Isaac.” That is, the children in the flesh are not really the children of God, but the children by the promise are counted as the offspring.”

“The children of the promise” are those who are called to be in union with Jesus. These are the true Jews, even as Paul explained in the 2nd chapter of Romans: “For he is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.”

With the coming of Christ a new chapter began, a long-running era leading towards the fulfillment of God’s purpose. The Christian commission involves preaching and teaching all who would hear, for the purpose of calling, training and ultimately choosing 144,000 persons—12,000 from the symbolic 12 tribes — to join Christ in heavenly Mount Zion as part of the Kingdom.

But shortly after the apostles died off the new Israel began to be dominated by agents of Satan and strayed off course, as did the original Israel. Eventually it too became fused with pagan religion just like fleshly Israel had been. Ultimately, Christendom emerged as the state-controlled religion of the decadent Roman Empire and its successors. The truth became snuffed out by demon religion.

But God’s purpose cannot be thwarted —only temporarily resisted.  So, toward the end of the 19th century God’s mighty spirit stirred within a few receptive souls. Out of the darkness the light of truth began to dimly flicker. A grouping of spirit anointed Bible Students emerged and began preaching and teaching again —just as the original Christians had done under Christ’s command. This phenomena identified the International Bible Students as the restoration of the Israel of God, who “are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that you should declare abroad the excellencies,’ of the One who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. For you were once not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not been shown mercy, but now you have received mercy.” —1 Peter 2:9

The apostle of Christ quoted and alluded to several passages in the Hebrew Bible, most notably Exodus 19:5,6, in which God declared Israel to be his special property and a holy nation. Clearly, then, the commission Christ gave to his followers involves much more than preaching about Jesus. While it is, of course, true that Jesus became the centerpiece of God’s purpose, the international declaration of the excellencies of the One who calls his servants out of demonic darkness would foremost involve giving witness to the name, character and purpose of Jehovah. Surely, Jehovah’s Witnesses have accomplished that to an extraordinary degree.

Now, though, God’s purpose is apparently nearing the end of phase II, which will conclude with the second coming of Christ during the period appropriately called the conclusion of the system. That is when the final stage begins of God’s intention to produce a holy nation. Jesus explained it in an illustration involving the wheat and the weeds —the wheat having been sown by Christ and the weeds by Satan. Both grow together in the same organization until the harvest. During the concluding harvest “The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace.”

The harvest will result in the complete removal of all of the Devil’s agents from the midst of the Kingdom. At that time all of the remaining wheat will be gathered into the storehouse, meaning they are chosen —approved members of the then-ruling Kingdom of God. That is when “the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father,” —at which point God’s purpose to produce a nation of kings and priests is accomplished and the Kingdom Christ becomes fully operational.

Revelation 10:7 describes that momentous event this way: “But in the days when the seventh angel is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret that God declared as good news to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.”

“The sacred secret” was first uttered in Eden, when Jehovah foretold that the offspring of the woman would crush the serpent’s head. Foremost, the seed of the woman is Christ, but also those who belong to him, those who have been born again, as was Jesus. So, the bringing to a finish the declaration of the good news involves the revealing of the sons of God, who remain hidden until the parousia and manifestation of Christ. Paul explained it this way: “For you died, and your life has been hidden with the Christ in union with God. When the Christ, our life, is made manifest, then you also will be made manifest with him in glory.” —Colossians 3:3

Contrary to the present understanding of Jehovah’s Witnesses, it is simply out off the realm of possibility that the sacred secret was brought to a finish in 1914. If it were true, then that would mean that all of the sons of the Kingdom had been harvested long ago and there would be no need or reason to continue the declaration of the good news. Ironically, if the mystery of God had really come to its finish over a century ago there would be no reason for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to even exist.

But what about the fact that the same 10th chapter of Revelation shows the strong angel, whose imposing presence on earth evokes the seven thunders of God, hands John a little scroll —commanding him to “prophesy again about peoples and nations and tongues and many kings”?

Since the revelations contained in the little scroll are disclosed after the time when the declaration of the good news is brought to a finish, the contents of the little scroll are not revelations contained in the sacred Scriptures we possess; hence, not humanly knowable at this present time. Just as John was commanded not to write down the earth-shaking utterances voiced by the seven thunders, the contents of the little scroll contain the final judgments of God, which John, or rather the remaining ones of the offspring of the woman, a John class if you please, will declare to peoples, nations and many kings. That is when they will shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of God.

The remaining ones are referred to as the “kings from the rising of the sun.” That is appropriate since by then they will have seen Christ in all his glory. That is why in explaining the significance of the Transfiguration, Peter, who witnessed the event that foreshadows the parousia, exhorted anointed Christians to keep fixated on prophecy like a lamp in a darkened place “until day dawns and a daystar rises in your hearts.”

Again, contrary to the teachings of the Watchtower, the day of Christ has not dawned, nor has the daystar risen within anyone. If such were the case it would no longer be necessary to keep looking to the lamp of God’s written word. No, the dawning of the daystar during the world’s bleakest night will result in the complete enlightenment of the sons of the Kingdom and their shining as the sun.

The ascendency of the sons of the Kingdom will be demonstrated by their ferocious denunciation of Satan’s wicked world. No doubt the “reports out of the east” that will so greatly disturb the king of the north and provoke him to genocidal fury will emanate from the shining kings of the dawning, unconquerable Kingdom of Christ.

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  • The Raven

    Excerpt:
    Ironically, if the mystery of God had really come to its finish over a century ago there would be no reason for the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to even exist.”

    That’s true! Thank you Robert!

    • You guys sure like to discuss stuff. Of the top 1,000 sites on the entire Internet, e-watchman now ranks as the 882nd most chatty. Considering the gazillions of sites out there that is somthing. Here, check it out, scroll down to the end http://comment1000.com/

      • Arvid Fløysand

        The” five talents” you “invested” in this site looks like ten by now…pretty good investment i would say 😉 (Matt.25:19-21)

      • The Raven

        There’s plenty here to chew on thanks to you!

    • Richard Long

      Excerpts:
      “First came the exhortation and warnings. Then the execution of judgment. Then a restoration, so that God’s purpose might be accomplished.

      “Now, though, God’s purpose is apparently nearing the end of phase II, which will conclude with the second coming of Christ during the period appropriately called the conclusion of the system.”

      Would this not imply that the 2nd inspection yo, Arvid and Huldah have been discussing has taken place or is currently underway?

      • No. The inspection comes during the conclusion. The inspection is what brings about the separation of the faithful and wicked slaves.

        • Richard Long

          Then yours would be the answer they have been seeking. Don’t know if you had seen the conversation between the three of them. Too deep for me to do anything but watch and listen.

          And just to be clear, the inspection is a component of phase II?

          • No. Phase 2 is where we are now, under the commission to preach and teach and make disciples. All of that ends during the final phase, also known as the conclusion and time of the end.

            • Richard Long

              Today is Richard be Thick Day. I’ma going to just disconnect their ongoing discussion from today’s topic.

            • The Raven

              There were several things going on there. One, the cleansings. Two, I realized inspection was tied to this as well. Three, the generation.

              First cleansing happened when Christ threw out the money changers. I posted that in reply to Huldah’s question to Arvid. Second cleansing happens just before the New Kingdom is here.

              Inspection has not occurred yet. It happens when Christ separates the slaves in the conclusion as Robert said. I thought I had missed something. I was exploring different avenues of thought on this and came up snake eyes.

              The generation explanation is in my comment to Burt, many thanks to Kevin.
              That’s it in a nutshell.

        • Richard Long

          You did intend for us to correlate the two expressions I exerpted above, though, right? We should think of the parousia as the restoration phase (phase III)?

          • Correct. Parousia = phase 3, restoration

            • Richard Long

              Ironic how some of us (me) default to Parousia = judgement. More delusion residual that may be common to many of us, or do you think just something I personally hadn’t​ thought through?

      • The Raven

        No, that’s why I question why they thought it happened. I stated it would have to be future. The wto claims it has already happened and you know the rest of that malarkey.

      • The Raven

        There is also a difference between the inspection and the cleansing. They were talking about two cleansings.

        • Richard Long

          Hence my withdrawal. Confused people (me) should not speak. lol

          • The Raven

            I get my wires crossed on these things all the time too. NO one’s immune to overlooking things or getting them wrong. Screw that org thinking man.
            FREEDOM to think!

          • J.M.J.

            Richard .We are all learning and by getting it wrong in writing we also may not only set it out in order for ourselves ,but may also correct it for another who is thinking along the same lines . As is said someone who never makes mistakes ,never made anything .

            • Richard Long

              Thanks JMJ. Thats why I left the mess, only notated. And I have to say I really value this kind of learning, as words heard vanish into the ether, but those read can be found again. Its like automatic meeting minutes!

            • The Raven

              Exactly. Refute, confirm or explain. The discourse in these matters is very important.

            • J.M.J.

              Always with the aim to help one another .To love one another and encourage one another.

            • The Raven

              Amen!

      • The Raven

        Leave the comment there. I OWN all mine as well. Its how we learn. lol

        • Richard Long

          Yeah, I’m ok with wearing the egg on my face, just don’t like the water muddy.

          • The Raven

            I wouldn’t worry about that at all. In fact our streams of thought are not always clear, hence the discussion. It’s nice to see how we get from point A to point B. 🙂

      • Burt Reynolds

        I just want to know where Hulda’s comment comes from that suggests we are looking at another forty years from the parousia? I just get so confused about it all and I’m getting vid in of David splane and his generations talk…..☹️

        • Richard Long

          Not touching the 40 years thing, and isn’t food from the MOL’s table the last thing you should be eating?

          • Burt Reynolds

            Too right! But I am not sure if it’s MOL or biblical . What’s your understanding Richard? Thanks.

            • Richard Long

              When whoever, first pointed out the exact 40 years to the day between commencement of Jesus Ministry to destruction of final temple, Robert, I think, that was honestly my first exposure to that fact. So I’m still trying do decide what I think.

            • The Raven

              There are biblical accounts of 40 this or that judgment or prophecy, to be sure. But I do not see how up to a 40 year tribulation can be reconciled with Revelation and Daniel which both spell out a seven year period in great detail.

            • Richard Long

              Me neither. Nothing will make fools of one faster or more thoroughly than chronology!

            • The Raven

              It’s a tough one that’s for sure. I’m like everyone else here, trying to figure it out. lol!

            • Burt Reynolds

              I think having read all the articles you sent, the seven years appears well founded from a biblical point of reasonableness. I guess one can read into things too much, or too little. I ‘prefer’ 7 years as it still puts me in with a chance of seeing it and it is difficult to devide off my natural instincts for survival than accept the alternative….if I am honest! But I suppose that is what it is all about, putting Jehovah’s ways above what one wants, rather than what should be! There are times when I would dearly like to swap my philosophy for that of my dog.

            • The Raven

              Christ plainly stated that he is coming quickly. I see no evidence for this to be drawn out for decades. That’s something the org seems to excel at. Along with discouragement.

              The past judgments were given to a people who all died. This one is immensely different as the final generation will not die and it is the end of the devil’s system and the beginning of Jah’s new kingdom.

              I found Robert’s reasons to be sound and Kevin’s extensive and exhaustive research to be an excellent explanation for this. I spent several days digging into this. It is apparent to me Kevin spent MUCH longer and I was grateful to be able to pull from it what we all needed.

            • Burt Reynolds

              Yes you’re right Raven, the only problem being of course that Christ said he was coming quickly 1,987 years ago! I’m not being flippant, or rather not meaning to be so, I’m just expressing my human fragility and which is rather raw at this time. Like the rest of us I suppose, I sometimes feel unable to appreciate what it is to command time, rather than be subject to it. I just want this to end, and don’t we all!

            • The Raven

              LOL! I am with you there, Burt. We do have a much better understanding of these matters than our predecessors did and for that I am very grateful. It helps me to try to see the big picture when I get down about the world.

          • Joseph S.
        • The Raven

          She is basing the question on the forty year span from Christ’s death to 70ce. She is asking if that generation may be illustrative of the generation that sees the end.

          But, I do not see how this could work at all. Injecting the 40 year generation into the timeline messes up everything else. IMO. Kevin directed me to this post on the matter when I speculated that the whole thing from start to finish cannot be but appx. 7 years.

          From:
          Bklyn Kevin The Raven • 17 hours ago
          Bklyn Kevin Leonard k • a year ago
          It’s not what I’m suggesting, that’s what the bible is suggesting

          I’m just saying I’ve noticed whether it’s 70 weeks of years or a literal seven years Jehovah always seems to stay within his divine boundary of seven when accomplishing his purpose, so then why wouldn’t it be the same for the tribulations

          I think the Tribulation refers to a full seven year period while the “Great Tribulation” refers to the second half of the Tribulation witch is three and one half years.

          Lets say that the great tribulation is going to be 3 ½ years like the bible clearly states, then how do we explain Daniel’s 1,290 days as well as his 1.335 days which go over the 3 ½ year time period?.
          Obviously It just does not make any sense at all unless you use a seven year time period or 2,520 days .

          Now 2,520 Days equal
          Seven years and is symbolic of one Biblical week. See Daniel 9:24-27.
          There are 70 weeks that have been determined for your
          people and your holy city.

          First half of the week is 3 ½ years or—–1,260 days
          Second half of the week is 3 ½ years or-1,260 days
          Now add > 1.260 days +1,260 days—-= 2,520 days

          Now subtract Daniel’s 12:11 prophetic days -1.290
          that would mean the disgusting thing gets put
          In place In the first half of the week on day = 1,230

          In the first half of the week on day 1 – one of the heads of the wild beast will be inflicted with a sword-stroke only to revive and put the disgusting thing in place on day 1,230 and misleads everyone on the earth.

          Let the reader take note that the interval between the wild beast
          sword-stroke and the disgusting thing being put in place is the beginning of the time period for meting out divine justice when the four apocalyptic horsemen ride and men become faint out of fear because of the anguish of the nation’s not knowing the way out. Luke 21:25-27 Revelation 6:1-4.

          All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.
          Matthew 24:8

          It misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the
          signs that it was permitted to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it
          tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. Revelation 13:14.
          And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they
          will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation. Daniel 11:31.

          The disgusting thing that causes desolation will be put in place on day 1,230 in the first half of the week when the seven headed beast revives and springs into the eighth king. Revelation 17:11. At this point – Daniel’s 1,290 days begins.

          Excerpt: How will the end come for the Watchtower?.
          The coming of Christ will coincide with the world erupting in war, the spread of disease pandemics and widespread food shortages. Then, following swiftly will come the Crash – the complete collapse of the political and economic system.

          Jehovah’s Witnesses will then be subjected to an intense period of confusion and doubt. And as Jesus foretold, many will be stumbled.

          Although the Watchtower will be discredited and quite likely cease functioning as a Bible and tract publishing society, apparently it will still exist in some form. But at that point it will stand in complete opposition to Christ. It will then be an antichrist.
          Read more> https://e-watchman.com/how-

          Read more> see my comments on
          The meaning of the 7 times of Nebuchadnezzar’s madness?.
          https://e-watchman.com/the-

          • Burt Reynolds

            Thanks raven, that’s helpful. I’ll read through it again tomorrow and digest. I wasn’t sure where the forty year thing came from and it seems Richard is saying its a MOL teaching? It’s all a bit confusing which is why I just like to keep to what the bible says and not speculation. Bible chronology seems to be do easily recognisable but sometimes I just can’t tell which is which. I’ve had a long afternoon of ‘HOW LONG oh Jehovah. How long!?’ Thanks for the info.

            • The Raven

              No problem, Burt. Kevin’s information confirmed what I was thinking in a clear and concise way. I don’t know if that’s what the MOL has been teaching but their “extended” generation spiel are IMO… BS to keep the false parousia and 1914 hoax alive since they passed the expiration date on that can of worms.

            • Richard Long

              Actually, I said, that the Splain video would be a MOL teaching, and maybe not something one ought to expect enlightenment from. At least that is what I Intended to say.

            • Burt Reynolds

              I feel sorry for Splain in an obtuse way. He seems really embarrassed as he explains it and that he know what he is saying is just rubbish. He says several times it is what Jehovah meant/said but offers no explanation whatsoever. I can see the GB drawing straws at their conference table and laughing at him. ‘Good luck with that! Go sell it to ’em Splain!’

          • Burt Reynolds

            Hello Raven, the two articles did not really discs this forty year period that is in question. So are we saying then that the forty years from Christ’s ministry to the distruction of Jerusalem is not a mirror of the length of time between the onset of the tribulation to the beginning of Christ’s reign? And that this period of transition is just seven years? What is the biblcal reference for either of these ideas? Thanks.

            • The Raven

              I can find no way to shoehorn 40 years into tribulation. So I don’t really know why it is even a question. I see no way for that to apply for the time period of the end. To state that the generation will not pass does not mean that tribulation will last for a generation. That’s all I can tell you about Huldah’s question.

              Here is a wealth of information I found on the end times. :

              https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-witnesses-holy-place-prophecy/

              Excerpt:
              “If the prophecies are allowed to interpret themselves, then it is necessary for any would-be-interpreter of the Scriptures to recognize that the 11th chapter of Revelation relates to the prophecy of Christ that says: “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.” Since the connection is obvious, it is also apparent that the “appointed times” equal 42 months. Combined with the related prophecies of Daniel regarding the time, times and half a time the holy ones are to be trampled on during the time of the end, it is apparent that the “appointed times” of Christ’s prophecy relate to the length of the tribulation, during which time God’s people are dominated by the nations. (Interestingly, it was roughly 42 months from the time the Roman armies first encamped against Jerusalem until the city was destroyed.)”

              Burt, it would be a great help to see how this is interpreted to go to the comments section on this article. I agree with Kevin in this matter concerning the seven times. But others take the view of a literal 3.5 – 4 years. Since we do not have all the information as of yet, that’s the best we can do, and AFAIC it’s scripturally sound reasoning. You decide.

              https://e-watchman.com/the-seven-times-of-nebuchadnezzar/
              Excerpt:
              “The coming of Christ in kingdom power is no ordinary event. It initiates the day of Jehovah – judgment day. The ouster of Satan from heaven will have the knock-on effect of striking a withering blow to the ruling earthly kingdom under the Devil’s dominion. The fall of the symbolic Egyptian cedar foreshadows the coming crash of America. The entire global system will shudder. But the beast will arise like the fabled phoenix for a time, just as the maddened king was briefly restored to his throne. (See article: Downfall of America)

              The seventh chapter of Daniel harmonizes with the extension given to the beasts after the time the kingdom is given to Christ. Daniel 7:12 states: “But as for the rest of the beasts, their rulerships were taken away, and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time and a season.”

              So, the seven times may apply to the period of judgment that will commence in the aftermath of the fall of the leading nation of the world. It may be that the seven times are a literal seven years or simply a symbolic period. Time will tell. (No pun intended.)

              But, we may be certain that during that period all people will be forced to know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind. ”

              Read what Kevin wrote about this as he goes into great detail on the significance of seven throughout scripture and Nebuchadnezzar’s madness.
              https://e-watchman.com/the-seven-times-of-nebuchadnezzar/#comment-2594338987

              I hope this makes it clearer for you as it does for me.

  • Max

    Thank you brother King! You trully are a very good spiritual cook. Love the article!

  • please save me Jehovah and remember my thoughts and what is important to me

  • and if his presence began in 1914 there would be no reason to continue Jesus memorial

    • e.v.g

      We will need more than just sit at the kh and make comments or just take our briefcase and go to the preaching work, some brothers and sisters boast themselves with that activities. I hate that immodesty.

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    The last 4 paragraphs I read 3 times because that is where I feel it is a new thing for me, especially the revelations contained in
    the little scroll are disclosed after the time when the declaration of
    the good news is brought to a finish, the contents of the little scroll
    are not revelations contained in the sacred Scriptures we possess;
    hence, not humanly knowable at this present time. So I have taken a print out and again I will read in my bed. Great Robert King Good Work.

    You have even challenged a John class if you please,
    will declare to peoples, nations and many kings. That is when they will
    shine as brightly as the sun in the Kingdom of God.That is a good question to WTS. When I and my wife were taking a daily walk in the park I was telling to my wife that if I get a chance to go to United States, I will surely visit Robert King rather than Bethel in Warwick.

    Also thanks for the tweet regarding Extremists’ In The Kremlin: Jehovah’s Witnesses Honored By Putin As ‘Model Family. That shows which is truth? If JWs are Extremists, so I ask Mr Putin are you honoring the extremists? What a Satanic lies to say that JWS are extremists. The honoring of Jehovah’s Witnesses As ‘Model Family by Putin itself shows that JWs are not extremists by Mr. Putin himself.

    • JTK

      i agree the last 4 paragraphs are worth pondering upon and envisioning the time when the scroll is activated. it seems to me that is when we will see the battle in full view between the Satanic infused beast and the revealed Sons of God and the Kingdom of Christ.
      and the choice will be clear for all mankind to see, hear and select
      receive the mark and worship the beast, or worship God
      for some reason i feel even though it will be obvious what a person should do, its not gonna be easy

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Yes you are right obvious what a person should do, its not gonna be easy.

    • assembly-demonstration family :/

      wheres the gold metal for the poor homless armless brother shunned by the congregation he cant get help from with a family giving him shit grief? but good for that family good for them! i bet they shave and didnt miss a day of meeting. lets put their picture on front of a wheaties box! i’ll bring my box for a autograph

      • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

        Hey Which one you are talking about? You mean the Russian family?

        • the comment was removed making it permanent on my account so after getting up from a nap i thought i should edit that S word because i was just upset in pain at the moment and i dont want anyone offended at the way we talk in these parts but instead its permanent because i have no options of control over my own account. so to answer your question brother, yes the russian family. https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-jehovah-s-witness-family-award-extremist-putin/28546976.html https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6a1iYQ0GA

          • Beverly kenyon

            Hi DA, I suppose it’s understandable the use of that word considering your circumstances and your upset in pain…that would make anyone use some choice language. I’m not upset in pain but just before I went back to car to load my shopping and someone deliberately and without consnsideration parked inches away from the driver’s side of car, without any consideration whatsoever…it’s a good thing I’m slim so was able to squeeze myself in with effort so I’m mortified that I called that driver the worst swear word going and I mean the worst swear word! I was so livid! And that’s just cos of a car problem! So I understand your use of that word but I also understand your post being removed as children visit this site and you don’t want to offend. Thinking of you DA and keep your chin up!

            • ive done worse

            • Beverly kenyon

              Yeah DA, but I actually wrote it down on a piece of paper and left it for the inconsiderate driver to read! And in big caps as well! So now it’s a note to myself…more self control when the red mist decends.

            • ha theres a book of a collection of letters people have left on peoples cars. i enjoyed reading it. i sympathized. but i done just as much the same or worse

            • Beverly kenyon

              Awww, thanks DA for reassuring me as I was thinking I’ve got to be worst person living! At first I felt, ha, you’ve been told (the driver that is) then I was mortified that I went to that low level! Urgh! At the moment it doesn’t take much to set me off as my tolerance levels are low. Lol. That’s why I love you to bits DA as you’re so very human and empathetic to human feelings as you’ve gone through the mill in life and it’s still an ongoing struggle for you and you’re not afraid to bare your soul and a person can really relate to that DA. Never change who you are DA as you’re unique. I’ll always have time for you.

            • isnt the book i was talking about but example – http://twentytwowords.com/funny-notes-left-on-windshields/

            • Beverly kenyon

              DA, reading that had me LOOOOL! Especially liked the one with the drawing of parking and definitely that one about not reproducing. Super funny! I’m made up now!

  • who here are involved in phaze two? raze your hand. Matt 28:19

  • Basavaraj Of North Karnataka

    I always used to think since JWs are not doing outright idolatry like Christendom and Hindus how a physical idolatry can be applied to JW? Well boy now I got the real stuff from this article Robert has linked the WTS declaration of Kingdom has come in 1914 to 1st Samuel: 15:22- 23 To obey is ……….. for
    rebelliousness is the same as the sin of divination, and pushing ahead presumptuously the same as ………. idolatry.” What a fitting sentence of Bible to WTS. Even the Christendom did not acted presumptuously saying Jesus has already come.

    This is a great job Keep it up Brother Robert!!!

    Also Robert that has linked the Watchtower’s leadership on Jehovah’s Witnesses, Its every utterance
    is regarded as if from Jehovah’s mouth; its amassed great wealth, persecuting sexually abused children and anyone else who dares to speak against the WTS with that of Ezekiel: 7:10-12 the rod has blossomed and presumptuousness has sprouted. Violence has grown into a rod of wickedness. Neither they nor their
    wealth nor their crowds nor their prominence will survive.

    This is a great work Robert. YES I BELIEVE THAT ROBERT KING IS TRULY ANOINTED. What else proof is required?

    Great nice points to speak with a JW thanks a lot.

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