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Nov102010

With Judgment and by the Spirit of Burning Down

(Previous articles appearing on this page are archived in ascending order on the Isaiah page as each new article is posted.)

When the Israelites were set free from their hard slavery in Egypt, in accord with God’s solemn promise to his friend, Abraham, Jehovah then established his covenant with them. No other people were in such a blessed relationship with Jehovah God. But the blessing was conditional. Only as long as the people listened to God would they be blessed. God would cause the rain to fall in due season and no enemy could make exactions upon them – if they obeyed. But the terms of the covenant between God and Israel also stipulated that if the people did not strictly obey voice of Jehovah God there would be dire consequences. Instead of the blessings there would be the maledictions. Jehovah would become their enemy. It was unavoidable if they rebelled. The curses were written into the Law covenant. The 28th chapter of Deuteronomy lays it out in explicit detail.

Of course, Jehovah knew in advance that the nation would not keep his covenant. And so God actually foretold Israel’s desolation even before ever they entered into the Promised Land. For example, Deuteronomy 28:63 states: “And it must occur that just as Jehovah exulted over you to do you good and to multiply you, so Jehovah will exult over you to destroy you and to annihilate you; and you will simply be torn away from off the soil to which you are going to take possession of it.”

That is why portions of Isaiah’s prophecy, written approximately 800 years after the Israelites entered into the bond of the covenant, echoes part of the curse contained in the Law. As an example, below is the curse of the Law directed towards the “delicate and dainty woman,” which stated: As for the delicate and dainty woman among you who never attempted to set the sole of her foot upon the earth for being of dainty habit and for delicateness, her eye will be evil-inclined toward her cherished husband and her son and her daughter, even toward her afterbirth that comes out from between her legs and toward her sons whom she proceeded to bear, because she will eat them in secrecy for the want of everything because of the tightness and stress with which your enemy will hem you in within your gates.” – Deuteronomy 28:56-57

Now consider Isaiah 3:16-25: “For the reason that the daughters of Zion have become haughty and they walk with their throats stretched forth and ogling with their eyes, they go walking with tripping steps, and with their feet they make a tinkling sound, Jehovah also will actually make the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion scabby, and Jehovah himself will lay their very forehead bare. In that day Jehovah will take away the beauty of the bangles and the headbands and the moon-shaped ornaments, the eardrops and the bracelets and the veils, the headdresses and the step chains and the breastbands and the ‘houses of the soul’ and the ornamental humming shells, the finger rings and the nose rings, the robes of state and the overtunics and the cloaks and the purses, and the hand mirrors and the undergarments and the turbans and the large veils. And it must occur that instead of balsam oil there will come to be merely a musty smell; and instead of a belt, a rope; and instead of an artistic hair arrangement, baldness; and instead of a rich garment, a girding of sackcloth; a brand mark instead of prettiness. By the sword your own men will fall, and your mightiness by war. And her entrances will have to mourn and express sorrow, and she will certainly be cleaned out. She will sit down on the very earth.”

As is apparent, this aspect of the prophecy of Isaiah is an enlargement of the curse in Deuteronomy. But even more profoundly significant, just as the Law and the prophets were actually preliminary to the advent of the Christ, it is also evident that the very same Law covenant and the prophets cast shadows of divine pronouncements against the people of Christ – the Israel of God, according to Paul – the product of the new covenant and the law of the Christ.

Consider more closely the details of the curse of the covenant and the overlapping features of prophecy: “Jehovah will raise up against you a nation far away, from the end of the earth, just as an eagle pounces, a nation whose tongue you will not understand, a nation fierce in countenance, who will not be partial to an old man or show favor to a young man.” – Deuteronomy 28:49-50

Written almost a millennium before Babylon destroyed the kingdom of Judah, before even Jerusalem became the famed “city of Jehovah,” the opening pronouncements of the prophecy of Habakkuk uses the exact same imagery as the curse contained in the Law – likening the ruthless Chaldean to an eagle speeding to snatch the prey. But any knowledgeable reader of Habakkuk is aware that the prophecy is actually a vision yet for the time appointed, that is to say: for the time of the end, also termed the conclusion of the (global) system. The Chaldean foreshadows the eighth king. (See chapter – Habakkuk)

Not only that, but the description of the executioner of Jehovah’s judgments – he being “a nation fierce in countenance” – is also the precise language found in the prophecy of Daniel regarding a “king fierce in countenance.” The significance is that the prophecy of Daniel is also earmarked to undergo fulfillment in connection with the holy ones of the kingdom in “final part of the denunciation” – during the “time of the end.” (See chapter – Daniel)

In recognition of the patterns cast in prophecy and the interconnectivity of the new and old covenants, the haughty daughters of Zion – whom Jehovah ultimately purifies and humbles through affliction – must foreshadow the individual members of the bride of Christ during the parousia. Not to be overlooked, the purpose of God’s withering punishment is, as stated above, so that “she will certainly be cleaned out.”

Did not Jesus similarly clean out the moneychangers from God’s earthly temple as a last act in his earthly ministry, which serves as a portent of his work as the messenger of the (new) covenant and the appointed laundryman destined to carry out the ultimate, fiery cleansing of the spiritual temple, as related in the third chapter of Malachi? Reasonably, then, the cleansing of the spiritual temple takes place immediately before the beginning of the new world.

The denunciation becomes even more graphic at Isaiah 4:4-5, where we read: “When Jehovah will have washed away the excrement of the daughters of Zion and he will rinse away even the bloodshed of Jerusalem from within her by the spirit of judgment and by the spirit of burning down, Jehovah will also certainly create over every established place of Mount Zion and over her convention place a cloud by day and a smoke, and the brightness of a flaming fire by night; because over all the glory there will be a shelter. And there will come to be a booth for a shade by day from the dry heat, and for a refuge and for a hiding place from the rainstorm and from the precipitation.”

The Watchtower Society recognizes that the prophecy of Isaiah is a pattern for the judgment of Christ’s congregation. But as with their interpretation of virtually all prophecy, the Watchtower goes to great lengths to convince Jehovah’s Witnesses that God’s judgments have already been carried out back in the 1914-1919 timeframe, against Rutherford and company; or, that they apply to Christendom. Here is what the Isaiah’s Prophecy I commentary states on pages 71-72 regarding the span of verses above:

When faced with the scorching heat of persecution and the storms of opposition, the cleansed remnant will find Jehovah to be their Source of protection, security, and refuge. A beautiful prospect is thus set before them: If they leave behind the unclean beliefs and practices of Babylon, submit to the cleansing of Jehovah’s judgment, and endeavor to remain holy, they will remain safe, as if in “a booth” of divine protection. Notice that first comes the cleansing, then the blessings. This has proved true in our day. Back in 1919 the anointed remnant humbly submitted to being refined, and Jehovah “washed away” their uncleanness. Since then, “a great crowd” of other sheep have also allowed themselves to be cleansed by Jehovah. Thus cleansed, the remnant and their companions have been blessed—Jehovah has taken them into his protective care.

It is a serious thing to declare oneself to be righteous and clean in the eyes of God. That is essentially what the Pharisees did. However, Jesus denounced them as mere whitewashed graves; outwardly beautiful and decorated, but inside full of dead men’s bones and all manner of uncleanness. The leadership of the Watchtower Society has unwisely followed the path of the self-righteous and hypocritical Pharisees. They imagine that simply because they have discarded the doctrinal errors of Christendom that God has already declared them to be righteous. In actuality they have merely declared themselves to be clean and righteous. As an example of that mindset, at the 2010 annual meeting of the Watchtower elite one speaker immodestly boasted that the Governing Body was very close to being just like Christ himself. (See Back Page) What is left except for them to publicly declare the Governing Body to be a god? (See 2 Thessalonians 2:4)

According to Watchtower lore supposedly God was displeased with the leadership of the Society because they bowed to government pressure and censored the Finished Mystery of God in 1916 (The entire book was basically a work of fiction and a source of embarrassment to the Watchtower to this day) and that is why God allowed J.F. Rutherford and seven other directors of the Society to be briefly imprisoned. But did God really rinse away the bloodstains and excrement of the daughters of Zion back then? If that was the case, why then, for example, did the International Bible Students continue on celebrating Christmas and using the cross as a sacred symbol of Christianity for several years after the time that Jehovah supposedly rinsed away all of their religious uncleanness?

Unfortunately, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not possess the spiritual wherewithal to discern that the Society’s interpretation is sheer nonsense. And besides, if any of Jehovah’s Witnesses were to openly question the Watchtower’s 1914 doctrine they would be swiftly dealt with by the elders charged with enforcing the dictates of the “dictators of Sodom.”

The falsity of the accepted interpretation is evident in the way the Society plays fast and loose with the prophecy in question. To illustrate the point, from the very same context of scripture the Society has simultaneously divined two opposed interpretations; for example, on the one hand the judgment of apostate Jerusalem is said to foreshadow Christendom and her destruction, and at the same time it is alternatively construed to represent the Society, depending on how Bethel’s “prophets” spin it. In the verse under consideration that “Jerusalem” is said to symbolize the congregation of anointed Bible Students back during the First World War. But in what way did God enter into judgment with “the spirit of burning down”? By the Society’s own account Bethel’s presses never stopped rolling during the war and brief period of persecution and upheaval. And the question ought to be asked: In what way was Jehovah, alone, put on high in that day, as Isaiah 2:18 states? Obviously, he was not.

The context of the prophecy is Jehovah entering into judgment with his elderly men and princes of his people. “The spirit of burning down” has to do with the abject desolation of the city of Jehovah during a time of unprecedented tyranny. That is certainly what is conveyed in the opening words of the third chapter of Isaiah: For, look! the true Lord, Jehovah of armies, is removing from Jerusalem and from Judah support and stay, the whole support of bread and the whole support of water, mighty man and warrior, judge and prophet, and practicer of divination and elderly man, chief of fifty and highly respected man and counselor and expert in magical arts, and the skilled charmer. And I shall certainly make boys their princes, and mere arbitrary power will rule over them.”

Since the Bible does not support the notion of a decades long, invisible parousia; and neither can the Scriptures be honestly interpreted to support the chronology the Society has connected to the “times of the gentiles,” it is as if the Watchtower has practiced a form of divination in conjuring up 1914. Originally Russell actually employed occult pyramidology to uncannily support the 1914 doctrine – as if he were an “expert in magical arts.” Unquestionably, the Governing Body is composed of “highly respected” men among the society of Jehovah’s Witnesses today. As the organization’s taskmasters, to this day the Governing Body and their helpers continue to perpetuate the magic Russell conjured. It is as if the leading men of the Society have skillfully charmed Jehovah’s Witnesses into believing an ‘artfully contrived false story’; leading them on as regards Jesus’ supposed invisible return nearly a century ago. That is why there is so much confusion regarding something as simple and straightforward as the meaning of Jesus’ expression “this generation will my no means pass away.” No doubt this is why Isaiah 3:12 states: “As for my people, its task assigners are dealing severely, and mere women actually rule over it. O my people, those leading you on are causing you to wander, and the way of your paths they have confused.”

As a glaring example of the sort of fraud practiced by the Watchtower Society on Jehovah’s Witnesses, commenting on the following verse (Isaiah 3:13-15): “You yourselves have burned down the vineyard. What was taken by robbery from the afflicted one is in your houses. What do you men mean in that you crush my people, and that you grind the very faces of the afflicted ones?” – the Watchtower states:

Instead of working for the welfare of the people, leaders engage in deceitful practices. They misuse their authority by enriching themselves and depriving the poor and needy. But these leaders must answer to Jehovah of armies for their oppression of the afflicted. What a warning this is to those in positions of responsibility today! May they be ever careful not to misuse their authority.

Yes, indeed, it is a sober warning to those in positions of responsibility today! But has the leadership heeded their own warning? Have the men behind the Watchtower similarly engaged in “deceitful practices,” as they accuse the clergy of doing? Jehovah knows they have. But as grievous as it is, the 1914 hoax is not the only instance wherein Bethel has misused their authority. As the “dictators of Sodom,” one way in which the Watchtower routinely misuses its authority is by wielding the threat of disfellowshipping against any who dare to take its leadership to task for their misdoings.

One of the most outrageous acts of deception the Watchtower has ever perpetrated against Jehovah’s Witnesses has undoubtedly been their secret 10-year partnership with the United Nations. And to this day the Governing Body and their apologists continue to lie about the extent of the Watchtower’s political involvement. That partnership required the Watchtower to hoodwink Jehovah’s Witnesses into unknowingly disseminating literature that had been slyly crafted to contain positive information regarding the United Nations, in order to fulfill the Society’s contractual obligation as an officially approved NGO in association with the United Nations. (See chapter: Strange Bedfellows)

The damage done by the Society’s treachery is incalculable. Although it is impossible to quantify, it is safe to assume that tens of thousands have been stumbled.

Considering the countless stumbling blocks the Watchtower has strewn in the path over the years, such as the 1975 fiasco, and many other things, not the least of which has been the deplorable way the Watchtower’s lawyers have denied any responsibility for the many children who have been sexually abused by the thousands of known sexual predators lurking among Jehovah’s Witnesses – the numbers of the stumbled – including those merely studying with Jehovah’s Witnesses – amount to millions. (In this connection the 36th chapter of Ezekiel refers to entire “nations” being stumbled by God’s representatives.)

Even if only one precious soul has been stumbled by the Watchtower’s hypocrisy and double-dealing, that is one too many from Jehovah’s standpoint. Stumbling others amounts to killing them. Jesus spoke of the dire consequences for those who stumble his sheep, saying it would be better for them if a millstone were hung around their necks and they were tossed into the heart of the open sea.

The Watchtower Society is unquestionably blood guilty in the eyes of God for causing so many to stumble. And according to his declaration to Moses, although Jehovah is merciful and gracious and slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness, he cannot possibly give exemption from punishment. Or as Jehovah states at Isaiah 2:9 in connection with Jerusalem: “And you cannot possibly pardon them.”

First must come the punishment – then the pardon and restoration for those whom Jehovah redeems. That is why Isaiah 4:4 speaks of Jehovah rinsing away, not merely the “excrement,” but also the bloodshed of Jerusalem – the “bloodshed” by causing others to stumble. Truly, only Jehovah’s scathing rebuke in – “the spirit of burning down” – could possibly humble the haughty leadership of the Watchtower Society.

How might Jehovah’s judgments be realized in the future?

 

To be continued…



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Reader Comments (62)

Mr. Watchman,
at times you say that Jehovahs witnesses are Jehovahs people and at other times you say they are not? how long will you be in the middle? Those who have been stumbled are stumbled, Jehovah leaves enough time to sought out this worlds affairs. All those who were stumbled are still invited back into Jehoavah's organization as well as yourself maybe you should listen and soften your heart. Alex

November 10, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAlex

You are mistaken. There is a price to be paid for stumbling others. Jesus made that clear. There is a day of reckoning, Judgment Day if you will. It is not a matter of being invited back. Many former JW's want nothing to do with the Watchtower Society because of their hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of Jehovah's Witnesses in general. Jehovah's intention, as stated in the prophets, is to humiliate the haughty leadership of the organization, and of course, incinerate the weed-like individuals that proliferate.

November 10, 2010 | Registered Commenterwatchman

Watchman said:
"Many former JW's want nothing to do with the Watchtower Society because of their hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of Jehovah's Witnesses in general. Jehovah's intention, as stated in the prophets, is to humiliate the haughty leadership of the organization, and of course, incinerate the weed-like individuals that proliferate."

Amen Brother!!! ...AMEN!

KIM
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P.S. If only the "leadership" and the other haughty ones would simply apologize and TRY to make things right, perhaps, the outcome would not be so harsh and final!

I know, I'm just dreaming aren't I? ...LOL

November 10, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterKIM

I want nothing more than for "pure worship" to be established the way it was with the early Christian congregation.

Today it is very hard to find any religion or sect that is conforming to the standards of the early Christian congregation.

Now there maybe small groups here and there scattered around the globe who are very close to the early Christian congregation, but personally I do not know of any.

It is my belief now at this stage that when Jesus does come, it will be necessary for him to create a new wine skin, to put the new wine of the truth into.

In other words a completely new Christian religion, that conforms to what the truth is and the "pure language".

But as of now the truth is being thrown down to the ground and stood upon.

Daniel 8 [LITV]
8 Then the he-goat became very great. And when he was mighty, the great horn was shattered. And in its place came up four outstanding ones toward the four winds of the heavens.
9 And out of one of them came a little horn which became very great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the bountiful land.
10 And it became great, even to the host of the heavens. And it caused some of the host and of the stars to fall to the ground, and it trampled them.
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the leader of the host. And the regular sacrifice was taken away by him, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
12 And a host was given with the regular sacrifice because of transgression. And it threw the truth down to the ground, and it worked and prospered

November 10, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFutureMan

Watchman said:
"Many former JW's want nothing to do with the Watchtower Society because of their hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of Jehovah's Witnesses in general. Jehovah's intention, as stated in the prophets, is to humiliate the haughty leadership of the organization, and of course, incinerate the weed-like individuals that proliferate."

Add another hearty Amen! to that!

November 10, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEiben Scrood

Watchman,

you are doing a great job in correctly identifying the WT-anointed along with the devotees of their
GB as eminently liable to the denunciation all the Hebrew prophets uttered in the Name of God and threatened against ALL of His 'born in the flesh' people - including the rest of Christendom's Churches.

Yet your excluding - and thus exempting - the rest of Christendom from God's coming judgment has got me worried sometimes, that you might be an undercover agent for the charismatic fundamentalists, cunningly refocusing and deflecting the spotlight of scriptural exposure away from the Churches by limiting its scope to a tiny faction of recalcitrant God-botherers among them.

That none of this prophetic condemnation and subsequent destruction is directed against the true body of Christ - His congregation of 'born in the Spirit,' and hence, Spirit directed and enlightened sons of God - is demonstrated by none other than YOURSELF; If you are anointed and hence see these things, just WHAT does that tell you about the OTHERS in the WT who CLAIM to be ENLIGHTENED?

Why don't THEY see the obvious truth? Or, seeing it, WHY don't they have the conviction, integrity and love of the truth in order to account all their organizational 'gains' and advantages as 'a lot of refuse' in view of the excelling value of the truth about Christ Jesus our Lord and His COMING presence, as YOU have demonstrated yourself to be capable of?

If even those who claim to have an earthly hope can see and display the intellectual and spiritual INTEGRITY of speaking up for the truth - willing to suffer being expelled from the Synagogue - just what does that tell you about the CLAIMS and INTEGRITY of the WT-anointed?

If you think you are the only one who has not bend the knee to the GB, Pope, or whatever other ecclesiastical authority you care to name, what will you say at the revealing of the '6999' other 'Israelites for a certainty, in whom there is no deceit?'

You legitimately, (because authenticated by God's prophets themselves) courageously and aptly CONDEMN the WT-anointed and all their 'born-again' counterparts in the rest of Christendom, for that matter, for their hypocrisy and deceit, but then amazingly FAIL to comprehend that they are, in fact, NOT God's CHOSEN ONES - how come?

Don't you understand Paul's words in Romans 8, where he challenges: "WHO will file accusation against God's CHOSEN ONES...God is the One who declares [them] righteous, who is he that will condemn?"

Yes, that's right, the Hebrew prophets, in reality, don't address those who "have Christ's spirit" - those in whom "God's spirit truly dwells!" (Ro.8:9,33,34)

Just as also born testimony to by Isaiah the prophet in these words: "...any tongue at all that will rise up against you [God's true chosen ones, the real Christian congregation] in the judgment you will condemn... [because] their righteousness is from Me, is the utterance of Jehovah!" (Is.54:17)

If, therefore, the WT-anointed are really the body of Christ - as you mistakenly believe - you are in fact condemning yourself and ALL the prophets of God likewise in your exposure of their 'seeming' hypocrisy, shameless duplicity and spiritual insincerity.

You can't have it both ways: Either they ARE righteous in what they do and teach OR they are NOT born of God's Holy Spirit, as they LYINGLY profess to be!

Just as in the first century, so also now: God has TWO people, those who are nominally His - those claiming His Name and approval while persecuting those born in the manner of Spirit - and those who truly are members of Christ's body and new creatures of the promised seed of Abraham!

Jesus is the vine and His Father is the cultivator. Every branch in Him not bearing fruit He takes away at the very moment it stops bearing fruit. He does not carry dead branches in His body or congregation all the way to His coming on the clouds of Heaven; all those not remaining in Him are cut off then and there!

Christ does not feed and cherish apostates, weeds and sons of the wicked one in His very own body - which is the Congregation - but only wheat like sons of God, who are indwelled by His Spirit of truth and holiness while keeping themselves undefiled from association with religious organizations, such as the WT and others. (Rev.14:4)

November 11, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterproxygnosis

TO PROXY:

Havr to concur, that if one researches the individual G.B members back to KNORRs time, & aound the 50's we have
Knorr & Gilead class of just 16 or so, & Ted Jaracz being sent out , not as a missionary to a foreign land, but at age 20yrs to California as a Circuit O'seer for 6yrs, then according to Barb. Andersons research after 6yrs sent to Aust
as Brannch O'seer.....his history had Knorr's influence, until he was 'chosen' or invited into Bethel after his 'anointing'
early 70's & into the Gov. Body where he rulled & created havoc, & soon became known as "the boss" after takinover the SERVICE & TEACHING comittees, having jurisdiction over the lives of millions of God's people ....his profile proves that
God's adversary could not only get chosen by a man, hardliner KNORR , but to wreck havoc in the lives of how many millions.....his history has been researched & can be found on the FREEMINDS.org website.....Just an example of how
the LEADERS in the HEADQUARTERS knew as they battled this "demonic force" that Holy Spirit was being saboutageed
as the EVIL POLICIES were sustained for decades e.g.child abuse, blood, womans role, education, & all the Pharisaical
laws rules...YES these "suits in Brooklyn H.Q." knew they were aquiescing to "the Boss" and how they slept, we sit & wonder.....But still he ruled, until 2009, but Gerrit Losch was in the battlefield, also a German hardliner, so
it woulld have been interesting to be a fly on the wall !!!! BRING IT ON YEHOWAH GOD

November 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterElena-Maree

"Either they ARE righteous in what they do and teach, OR, they are NOT born of God's Holy Spirit, as they LYINGLY profess to be! You can't have it both ways."

Amen, Proxygnosis....Amen.

November 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

“They have visioned what is untrue and a lying divination, those who are saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when Jehovah himself has not sent them, and they have waited to have a word come true. 7 Is it not an untrue vision that YOU men have visioned, and a lying divination that YOU have said, when saying, ‘The utterance of Jehovah is,’ when I myself have spoken nothing?”’8 “‘Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “‘For the reason that YOU men have spoken untruth and YOU have visioned a lie, therefore here I am against YOU,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.” 9 And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie. In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on, and in the register of the house of Israel they will not be written, and to the soil of Israel they will not come; and YOU people will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, 10 for the reason, yes, for the reason that they have led my people astray, saying, “There is peace!” when there is no peace, and there is one that is building a partition wall, but in vain there are those plastering it with whitewash.’


In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on… for the reason, yes, for the reason that they have led my people astray…

WHY does everyone like to assume those that are teaching and leading Jehovah’s people are going to be righteous at this time? What point would there be in judging a household upon return if the righteous were able to break away saying they had no part of any association with religious organizations but yet they themselves are the true temple/body or household?

In what way are the ones that have no association with religious organizations leading his people astray? If that is what is being done to those that he says are “my people” then it only stands to reason that there must be leadership at this time and those in association with them. Otherwise you got self appointed righteous that claim they are no part of any organization, which may be true but it is also true that they have no people in association with them to be leading astray. In fact there is no evidence that those not in any association with religious organizations are leading any people.

In order to be thrown out or not continue on, would mean that one had to be in or a part of something. This “something” “being led astray by stupid prophets” is said to be where Jehovah says “his people” are.

November 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAmos

THANKYOU WATCHMAN!

November 12, 2010 | Unregistered Commentermrpeaceable

Mr. Watchman, Hello, thats correct, so what will happen with all these people that have come to know Jehovah and yet are still stumbled?.Alex

November 12, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAlex

Hello Robert,
I would just like to kindly ask you, whether you considered yourself to be the new channel of communication and if so, how or when did this happen?

Thanks
Dirk

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDirk

Alex,
duhhh....they will be thrown into the lake of fire.

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

Hello Dirk if I may be so bold as to take the liberty to enlighten you my dear fellow. Well apparently it all started back in 96 when uncle Robert had 'his thing' (some sort of revelation) and he then started a website in 2002 dedicated to helping all stumbled jw's realise that the watchtower was corrupt and being run by superfine apostles. Since then he has been busy writing endless volumes of prophetic essays (which some have unfairly criticised as being long-winded and tiresomely and wearisomely repetitive) much like the watchtower literature itself. I myself personally, cannot get enough. I and many others like me have been immensely benefited by this selfless brothers efforts. We have become spiritual giants overnight. This website is INVALUABLE! It is a refuge for lost jw sheep, scattered jw sheep and stumbled jw sheep. You will receive much spiritual upbuilding and insight here from the greatest and profoundest jw minds. They will explain prophecy like you've never heard it before. It will literally blow your mind.
So please Dirk, don't sneer, don't scoff and don't mock, but show a little patience and a little faith and I promise you my dear skeptical brother, you will not be disappointed with whats in store for you here.
Jehovah will provide.Thats a promise. He always does.

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

So, if I have got this right, you are effectively saying that Robert King's website is now the official new channel of communication that Jehovah is using to dispense spiritual food . Is that correct?

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDirk

Well done Dirk, that is correct -penny finally drops- yes, its quite simple really. Brother king's appearance is not modeled after an old testament prophet for nothing you know? You see Dirk, brother King is a prophet! Thats why he looks like one and talks like one, as he unmistakably is one. He received his heavenly calling from Jehovah back in 1996, which he bashfully declined at first, but then had a change of heart and humbly accepted. Now he is Jehovahs unique and exclusive channel of communication to all those who have been stumbled by the Watchtowers U.N affair and the 1914 palava.

Does that now make better sense to you Dirk?

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

It is really tedious posting from an iPhone, but no, I do not claim to be a new channel. My intention has always been to announce Jehovah's future Judgments upon his organisation.

November 13, 2010 | Registered Commenterwatchman

A little Saturday morning humor is always good LOL!!!!

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterguest

Dirk! The watchman does not just reply to anyone. You have just been selected and priviledged with a reply from the prophet himself. This is great honor! A great honor, indeed! Cherish it my dear friend! Cherish and remember it!

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

Minority of 1, I will do just that! Thank you venerable Watchman, thank you, thank you so much.

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDirk

The Watchman is right in what his says. Alex, I believe Jehovah judges peoples hearts, "All those stumbled will be judged this way".

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterBLN

Welcome To: new member DIRK

Firstly many have recently "joined the new congregation" we are situated "outside the camp/ or city of 'Jerusalem' & have heeded Jesus' warning "Get out of her my people"
May you have many happy hours catching up on the brillant explanation of prophecy courtesy of our e-watchman
also, many comments as you will read, will inform you, in a nutshell about these URGENT "end times" we are in right now.
The nations are preparing for war, WW111, yes China & Russia have been working it, Dual Military exercises since 2009
& we are in a "pivitol year" 2010 which will become obvious to you as you put your headphones on, & indulge in the videos e-watchman has provided, in the CURRENT AGENDA column .. he updates this frequently.

Happy hunting & tell us your story, ,in a nutshell, please when you are ready !!!

Min. of 1:::: You're doing GREAT, come a long way yourself, in a short time......well done , gotta go now
librarys closing

November 13, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterElena-maree

Thanks for your welcoming words Elenamaree. I'm really glad I found this forum, it must be Jehovahs angels directing me. I hope I can contribute my little bit of watchtower knowledge to everyone here. I have been reading the societies latest publication on Jeremiahs prophecy, so if anyone has any questions about the book I am here to help.

Thanks
Dirk

November 14, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDirk

Hey minority of 1,

Tell me, is the watchman modeling himself after a 'old testament prophet' for credibility purposes or just for pure effect?

November 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterhickory

Hello Hickory,
I would presume the watchmans appearance is modeled after an old testament prophet for 'credibilities sake', but I would also suspect that the 'pure effect' masquerade has to do with the watchmans terrible dry sense of humour (no offense watchman). So, yes Hickory, I would really have to say that both credibility and effect are being used here by the watchman.

Thank you for your question.

November 14, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterminority of 1

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