9-11-2011 Ten Years After the Start of World War IV
Thursday, August 25, 2011 at 10:23AM In the aftermath of the devastating terror attack on September 11 – now a decade ago – in 2003 a former CIA director, one James Woolsey by name, is quoted as saying that the United States had embarked upon World War Four. (He was counting the Cold War as World War Three.)
He went on to identify Iraq and Iran as the primary enemies, along with Syria, Egypt and even Saudi Arabia, and of course, the conveniently ephemeral al-Qaeda. Laughably, Woolsey claimed that America was intent on bringing democracy to all the oppressed peoples of those lands ruled by dictators.
(As a side note, not only has the world’s most sophisticated military superpower failed to eradicate the sandal-shod, ragtag Taliban in Afghanistan in ten years of war – a Taliban who had nothing whatsoever to do with the 9-11 attack – since the invasion of Afghanistan heroin production has soared, particularly in the British-held Helmand province. Not only are the hundreds of billions of dollars of illicit dope money being laundered through the offshore banking/hedge fund conduit in order to prop up the bankrupt European banking system, but also the deadly drug itself is being deployed primarily as a weapon against the people of Russia. The US has resolutely refused to destroy the poppy crop, which it could easily do.)
Since 9-11 the tumult set into motion by Woolsey’s so-named WWIV has killed over one million Iraqis, brought ruin and misery to Afghanistan, and in recent months the war has indeed taken on a more global nature with the recent attack upon Libya by US-led NATO forces in alliance with al-Qaeda “rebels” – with rumors of larger conflicts swirling about. Quite likely, Syria is next on the list of Islamic countries due to be “democratized.”
For a certainty, since the beginning of 2011 conflicts and disorders are flaring up all over the Islamic world, in large part nurtured by the indiscriminate killing of civilians by unmanned US drone attacks and covert operations deploying death squads, intended to destabilize otherwise relatively stable sovereign governments.
Besides the minor inconveniences such as increased airport screening, though, to most Americans and Europeans, and the rest of the world for that matter, the so-called war on terror is hardly a cause for concern. It is true; for the most part peoples living outside of the immediate conflict zones have continued to go about their daily lives all these years. That may soon change though.
What Mr. Woolsey did not mention, is that, it is apparently the ultimate intention of the dark powers steering the Anglo-American war machine to provoke war with China and Pakistan. Unlike all the wars up to the present, excepting the Cold War, disconcertingly, all parties in that scenario are nuclear powers.
As knowledgeable persons surely know, the United States is not at all concerned with spreading democracy to the Middle East and South Asia. The actual strategic purpose of the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan (besides escalating opium production for the reasons already stated and seizing control over huge oil and gas reserves as well as vital international pipelines) is to establish forward bases from where an attack can more effectively be launched against China, and likely Russia as well. Presently, America has over 700 military bases scattered all over the world – many in lands of the former USSR and formerly Soviet allied Eastern Bloc.
The former CIA man’s World War Four talk may seem to be hyperbole, especially in comparison with the appalling destruction wrought from the two so-called world wars of the past 20th Century; however, Woolsey’s comment ought to be seen not so much as an official designation of the present conflicts, but rather, as an unofficial declaration of Anglo-American policy intentions. Given the present trajectory of the ongoing conflict, war between the nuclear powers seems inevitable. And any such war between nuclear powers with ICBM’s would truly merit the designation of a world war.
While conspiracy-mongers have fabricated absurd stories that the Twin Towers (and presumably the Pentagon itself) were rigged with tons of explosives, as if massive, fuel-laden aircraft slamming into the structures was inconsequential, the true purpose of such conspiracy theories seems to be to distract from the real conspiracy. While there are undoubtedly men within the American establishment who were in the loop, the London/Saudi connection is never mentioned in the mainstream media – this in spite of the fact that nearly all the 9-11 hijackers were Saudi nationals, including the recently assassinated Osama bin Laden himself, who was a known asset of British intelligence.
Unquestionably, the 9-11 attack has served as the pretext for the Anglo-American Empire to initiate its perpetual war policy with the ultimate goal of world conquest.
Already the initial phase of the Anglo-Sino war has begun – at least the preliminary cyber war phase. And the recent NATO attack upon Libya forced the evacuation of thousands of Chinese engineers and other workers who were developing Libya’s oil infrastructure for nationalist purposes.
Somnolent Westerners might be alarmed if they knew that a coordinated cyber attack could conceivably shut down the entire power grid. Such a scenario, whether conducted through cyber war or an actual upper-atmospheric EMP attack, could possibly be the means by which the Anglo-American system is toppled in fulfillment of prophecy. (See chapter: Downfall of America)
There is no question that Americans and all so-called developed nations are absolutely dependent upon the electric and cyber grid, all of which are run by computers. Such dependency actually makes those nations extremely vulnerable to a sudden takedown of their power systems.
It may well be that the prophecy of Joel is portraying this very thing. Joel depicts armies of various, voracious insect species, climbing over protective walls and through open windows (Perhaps representing Internet firewalls and computer operating systems, which are likened to windows) devouring a defenseless world, as it were, as a precursor to Jehovah’s fear-inspiring judgment. Without doubt, a total shutdown of the power grid for more than a few days would completely destroy the financial system and prevent even everyday, mundane transactions such as cash machine withdrawals, Internet purchases and all credit and debit car transactions from taking place. Civilization would quickly come unraveled if such were ever to occur.
Obviously, the ancient prophets could not intelligibly write about an electromagnetic pulse attack using nuclear missiles exploding high up in the atmosphere, or cyber warfare conducted through cables straddling the planet and satellite communications bounced from the other side of the globe, but the symbolism employed of a horrific insect infestation that suddenly devours everything in sight would seem to be God’s way of depicting the horrors soon to be unleashed upon the modern world. (See chapter on Joel in Jehovah Himself Has Become King)
No wonder the prophecies symbolize the day of Jehovah as a day of clouds and thick gloom, a day when the heavenly luminaries fall from the sky.
Given the treacherous nature of the dark powers ruling the world, it is not at all out of the question that a false flag cyber or EMP attack might be staged as a way of shutting down the system before government shuts down the bankrupt financiers – with the added dividend of an event such as that allowing them to focus the blame on China as a pretext to escalating World War Four to the nuclear phase. (Not insignificantly, the US military is not as vulnerable to an EMP event given that their vital electronics have been “hardened” to protect against just such an attack.)
In conjunction with the wars and uprisings wracking North Africa, the Middle East and South Asia, the ongoing covert cyber war, and the feverish preparations for global war, pushing the whole process is a ruthless financial warfare being waged by the City of London/Wall Street Empire of the financiers against all the nations.
Although boasting of being God’s prophet upon earth, the Watchtower Society, and consequently millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses under its influence, is completely oblivious to what is taking place currently, at least as far as the prophetic significance of the looming disaster. (No doubt this is why Jehovah addresses his priests and older men as drunkards in the book of Joel during the global insect onslaught.)
The Watchtower is even on record assuring trusting Jehovah’s Witnesses that there will be no other world war. The oracle of Bethel has come to that conclusion by reasoning that another world war would undoubtedly involve nuclear weapons, which could indeed conceivably destroy the whole world and make it uninhabitable. It has not seemed to dawn upon them that that is exactly why Jesus foretold that unless the tribulation was cut short no flesh would be saved.
Jehovah’s Witnesses have been led to believe that the next aspect of prophecy to be fulfilled will be the destruction of false religion by the political system. Although that will undoubtedly occur eventually, since Jehovah himself has spoken it, there is no indication that the nations are inclined to carry out such an attack in the present political environment. First must come the collapse of the system – then the last king will miraculously arise from the ashes and subject mankind to a global, beastlike tyranny. (See chapter: An Eighth King)
Instead, the present reality before us indicates that nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom on an unprecedented scale. Call it world war if you prefer. Jesus simply referred to it as a great tribulation unlike anything that has ever occurred before or will ever occur again.
Reader Comments (56)
Robert you said
"Jehovah’s Witnesses have been led to believe that the next aspect of prophecy to be fulfilled will be the destruction of false religion by the political system. Although that will undoubtedly occur eventually, since Jehovah himself has spoken it, there is no indication that the nations are inclined to carry out such an attack in the present political environment."
Why does the fact of the "present policitical enviroment" have any bearing on anything at all?
It is it to come at "an hour we least expect"
as a "thief in the night"
and it comes about that because "Jehovah puts it in their hearts"
I appreciate your writings but be careful, although it is possible that the Watchtower may have some infiltrators in it it was still appointed by Jehovah!
Remember the story of Saul and David??????????????????????????????????????
the destruction of Babylon the great is to be accomplished by the political powers, namely the eighth king. Revelation states that the kings under the power of the eighth king decide to destroy the harlot, and Jehovah reinforces their decision. So, it is not something that suddenly happens. Besides, the eighth king does not even exist presently. So the present political environment is due to change suddenly when the AngloAmerican system goes down.
While conspiracy-mongers have fabricated absurd stories that the Twin Towers (and presumably the Pentagon itself) were rigged with tons of explosives, as if massive, fuel-laden aircraft slamming into the structures was inconsequential, the true purpose of such conspiracy theories seems to be to distract from the real conspiracy.
You're interpretation of events relating to the towers are extremely flawed, and merely show your ignorance of the physical laws of gravity. I'm certain now you are a part of the problem, and you have played your cards. Ahhhh clarity, it is a wonderful thing.
You are showing yourself, to put it in your own words...an idiot!
.....and the majority of people upon this earth will think God is mean and cruel when he allows destruction to come on all. Humans have earned their punishment in so many ways. Reflect back on your life and society in general.
Bad times you say? You ain't seen nothing yet! But all of you will.
Anonynymous,
Why don't you "sack-up" and use your real name since you are so sure of yourself and what you write? No, people like you prefer to snip and stalk from the darkness. How smug and proud you must be.
Bll Frayer, (obviously your real name)
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Watchman, your site has become nothing but an avenue for speculation, and an opportunity to deceive anybody who is searching for the truth.
"It may well be that the prophecy of Joel is portraying this very thing."
That sounds alot like the society when they use the word "evidently".
Brother, I am urging you to stop going ahead of Jehovah, and to be patient. The time is close when ALL things will be made clear, but until then, as a PROFESSED anointed one of Jehovah you bear a responsibility to NOT speculate on matters pertaining to the Kingdom. Satan and his legions are more than eager to jump on the bandwagon of any word they know not to be truth, and you are giving them ample opportunity to get a free ride. Don't allow yourself to be an avenue that Satan will exploit for his gain...of which your site has already fallen victim.
Robert
Im fully aware of the 8th king etc, but they will start to rule suddenly and Jehovah doesnt need the political situation to make it happen like a thief in the night
Anonynymous
You are right friend. But don't waste your time trying to convince these fanatics. Let them be!
You people are hilarious. I mean it.
Wow – “Watchman” – after that comment towards the post’s – You are definitely the “Glass half full” type guy..
You patience is amazing – Isn’t that one of the fruit’s of the spirit??? ;-)
I wish I could have a little more of the “happy go fortunate” type out look towards people..
B
Wait a minute – You better not be doing all this – Just “for entertainment proposes only”
Robert…
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Yes what Robert said about the twin towers is nonsense, that is if he really believes that the planes brought them down (what about building 7 where no plane hit) but that is apples to oranges…what HE (Robert) does as far as bringing out the errors of the WTS and showing what the prophets have to say about Jehovah’s judgments against HIS said people are something that none of you ass munches can do. I don’t understand why you read his website and take the time to post hear. I am not in agreement with all that Robert has to say (I am STILL waiting to hear when the first 5 seals are open) but with what I do agree with is enough to be aware of the WTS BS…which for the JW’s still in the org they need to hear what Robert is saying…but as far as what he says as to events going down is a different story, but those understandings will come in time.
http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/showthread.php?4691-9-11&highlight=twin+towers
yes Robert you do seem to have a bit of a temper.
I love Jehovah and I just want want his will to be done, slagging off his visible organisation isnt the way to do it.
Enjoying the freak show everyone? ;-)
Brian your absolutely right! Robert just tolerates these fools for his amusement. Thats the one thing I love about this great man! His marvellous sense of humour!
All these degrading insults and slurs are like water off a ducks ass to him!
Robert you have such thick skin and you wear it so proudly like an exemplary Christian wears his spiritual armour!
What a sterling example in patience, forbearance, long-suffering, kindness,humility, meekness, mildness, forgiveness and love you truly are!
Thank you so much Robert
Jehovah bless
Got to say , at the moment the situation in libya could be the fullfillment of bible propehcy concerning the king of the north.Daniel 11 clearly states that the libyans and ethiopians are at his steps.Then what seems to be bad news causes him to rise up and devote many to destuction.What does everyone else think??
Watchman,
Whilst you may not believe what you termed the "absurd stories that the Twin Towers ... were rigged with tons of explosives", there is a (late) nortoriuos German Dictator (who history records should have been an EXPERT on these matters) who evidently strongly disagrees with your conclusions.
Why not cut and paste the link to the rare footage below :--)) and see for yourself ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbRc1BhXjvA
If we're honest with ourselves we have to admit that for someone who's been "deceased" for over half a century the scientific reasons he gives for strongly disagreeing with your conclusions on the matter really cannot be effectively disputed. Can they??
But I know what you're probably thinking ... even if science does clearly support his views on this matter ...why should anyone ever listen to him??? :--))
The truth of the matter is coming out regardless of what disinformation, or subtle tactics to alter the value of the truth are used. MORE THAN half of the country believes 911 was an inside job. It's obvious that those who are trying to prevent the truth from coming out cannot do so using sound scientific evidence, or scientific method to do so because they have NOTHING TO STAND ON. Instead they use weak, and essentially cheap means of distraction to discredit the truth. If anything it simply makes the truth that much more valid when you can't attack it face on....lol.
Those trying to discredit the truth of 911 have cleverly created side stories to redirect from the ones who were responsible for the act. E-watchman falls into the trap, or is part of it, in that he continues to point the finger at the London/Saudi connection, while never mentioning the London/Israeli connection that was served much more on the plate of profits and rewards than ANY Saudi nation was through this whole ordeal. In fact any information that points the finger to Israel is usually shot down by Ewatchman, which in this readers mind causes me question his ability to see things that are truly right in front of his face, no doubt being clouded by his ardent devotion to L.Larouches disinformation.
To look at ANY situation without critical thinking only closes ourselves to a clearer understanding of what the truth is. Hundreds upon hundreds of Architects & Engineers have given their professional diagnosis to the official story of what happened and have shown WHY the towers COULD NOT simply just fall to the ground such as they did, NOT TO MENTION BUILDING 7.
If anybody else wants to try to discredit what the Architects & Engineers have said perhaps they should do it in a VALID and consistent manner of actually using the data that everybody has and go from there. Oh yeah, they can't because it proves them wrong....I guess we are just gonna have to get used to videos with a fake hitler in them. Apparently that's all they have left...
Architects & Engineers for Truth
Hey Anonynymous,
The fake hitler video does not to attempt to discredit the Architects & Engineers for truth,
but actually sarcastically 'supports' their position and conclusions.
Ergo the Name of the Bit...
"Hitler knows what Nano-Thermite in the WTC dust means"
How could anyone view a video with a title like that and conclude that it's an attempt to discredit the Architects & Engineers for truth?
In fact does not the satire even mention this very group BY NAME as an valid authority!
Hey, did you even notice the name of the YOUTUBE Channel, Sherlock?
"physicsandreason"
Should not that very name help you to figure out what side of the issue that the owner of that channel who put out the video is on...
(...You unobservant ... .NUMBSKULL ..)
Well Anonynymous you will probably do well to STAY anonynmous .....
Because ..well.. as they say in GERMANY ... when it comes to matters such as these which may require one to have at least a little discerment and some basic powers of observation ...
So far may friend .. you proven to be a real .....
..... FREAKIN 'DUMMKOPT' ...
Hey Watchman,
I have a question concerning geopolitics that has been on my mind for some time. Maybe in your own words you can answer it. If China had 30k workers kicked out of Libya, why would they turn around and make a comment(if it's true) from yesterdays WSJ, that they fully endorse a new regime to over throw Gadaffi?
Or why don't these countries that obviously know that the game is being rigged by the London Oligarchy simply name names?? What do they have to lose at this point since the jig is almost up?
Thanks Watchman, as depressing as it is, I appreciate the information;
... some of these posts ... wow ?!?!?
The internet brings out the (cough) best (cough) in people.
“You should never assume contempt for that which it is not very manifest that you have it in your power to possess, nor does a wit ever make a more contemptible figure than when, in attempting satire, he shows that he does not understand that which he would make the subject of his ridicule.”
Lord Melbourne (British , 1779-1848)
I doubt you'll get the point but that's ok...
You see, the thing with satire is that it is one of the most subtle ways to discredit the value of the truth. Which is all that is left for those trying to convince others of the 911 official story. They understand that the TRUTH cannot be contained, and therefore must do everything they can to control how effective it is in peoples minds. The best way to do that is to make whatever it is they want to control less powerful. Why? Because TRUTH IS POWER!
The implications of 911, and the effects that it has caused since are quite serious. Downplaying, or manipulating the importance of what actually happened lessens the value of that truth, and steers it away from being taken seriously to many who are not as educated on the matter. Sure the video may seem funny, but only to those who do not understand the reality of the situation, and choose to continue to live their lives as if nothing happened.
You apparently didn't lose anybody you love that day, or anybody close since then that is a consequence of what happened on 911. Just so you know, using Hitler(probably the most notoriously made person of our century) to get the truth out certainly does nothing to build the credibility to said truth. Also, your reaction is not commensurate with what I wrote prior, in that you attack my statements more viciously than somebody who feels the way you portray yourself to feel about 911. Perhaps I offended you for not thinking the video was as funny as you did, if so I apologize, however i would ask that you look at the video from another point of view....it is a well done, tactless p.o.s that people like you feel the need to post because you do "not understand that which he would make the subject of his ridicule".
And by the way it's Dummkopf NOT Dummkopt.
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Watchman,
I question your reasoning for even placing the paragraph you did in the article. It's sloppy commentary, and you certainly had to know that it would cause a stir in the comments section of your article. Wouldn't you rather have people comment on the value of your message, than on the nonfactual statements that cannot be supported within?
You write in your conclusion "Instead, the present reality before us indicates that nation will rise against nation, kingdom against kingdom on an unprecedented scale. Call it world war if you prefer. Jesus simply referred to it as a great tribulation unlike anything that has ever occurred before or will ever occur again."
So what is the message, or purpose for writing what you did because it really isn't anything that we don't already know? Is it for entertainment value that you keep writing articles that essentially say the same thing? How many different ways are you going to come up with the fact the Society is going to fall, there is going to be a great tribulation, and the end is near?
If you continue to stand on the soapbox, it's alot farther to fall when it gets kicked out from you. I understand you feel that you are letting your light shine, but we must also be discreet about that which is given to us from God. If you can't see that you are casting your pearls before swine, maybe you should step down for a second and actually see the reality of the situation your website is causing.
Many will use the excuse that your site is a place to meet, or to talk about the bible, however eventually each and every one of them are going to have to do it ON THEIR OWN, without ANYBODY to help them EXCEPT Jehovah God. Maybe it's time to ween your kittens, and let Gods vine grow as it will. Surely you have made a difference in many, but perhaps you are preventing those who look to you from maturing to their full potential.
Again I urge you brother, stop drinking the wine....and switch to water...
Calling 'Lowly servant'
Have you taken note, that the United nations are the "big guys" who feature in the 'aftermath" of the desecration of these nations ?? they have the $$$$$$ , will somebody yell,,"timmmbberrrr" the governments are crashing down, in a domino effect...
Just a note about the 'twin towers' tragedy, what was accomplished from that "planned event" ??
the "war on terror" starting with IRAQ...who owns the OIL now??
Hey Anonymous,
There's so much I could say but let me attempt to keep it simple this time.
First please allow me to apologize to you for in my earlier post I called you an..
1)an 'unobservant NUMBSKULL'
2)and a real 'Freakin Dummkopf'
I was wrong to hurl those insults at you. That's not me. It won't happen again...
You see as Christians there is really NO NEED to ever resort to name calling.
Yet that is what I did. I was wrong to do that and for that Bro. Anonymous I would like to now sincerely apologize.
Now getting back to the subject … Could it be that you're the type of person who has made ASSUMPTION their favorite hobby? I'm not saying that you have. I'm just merely asking ...
You ASSUMED that certain videos that actually SUPPORTED your views of what happened on that fateful day in fact contradicted you. You were WRONG. You also ASSUMED, (without bothering to ask anyone) that no one here "apparently didn't lose anybody [that they loved] on that day, .. as a “consequence of what happened on 911".
How could you possibly know if we lost loved ones or not without ASKING us first?
You objected to the owner of the physics and reason YOUTUBE channel from using 'Hitler Parodies' to get his point across. You ASSUMED that the poster of that "tactless p.o.s"video (hey, I wonder what does p.o.s. stand for? L.O.L) isn't serious in doing what he can to get the record straight. And why couldn't he possibly be serious in your eyes? Could it be because you feel that the ONLY RIGHT WAY to get the point across would be YOUR WAY?
But then you quote Lord Melbourne, you know... that would be the one who lived way back in the 16th-17th CENTURY ! So in other words to counter a parody of someone who's been dead for 65 years, you quote some someone who's been dead now for over 160 years! And this MAKES SENSE to YOU?
Why all the ASSUMPTIONS?
Could it be because you're just one arrogant and presumptuousness bloke?
(I'm not calling you that... I'm just asking...)
I ask this because is it not the very same people who have this un-Christlike trait that often go around ASSUMING all sorts of things things about people? (often incorrectly and without EVER acknowledging their errors.)
Are you a diligent student and reader of scripture? If so perhaps you might have read...
By presumptuousness one only causes a struggle, but with those consulting together there is wisdom. (Proverbs 13:10)
What's more presumptuousness than going through life making lots of incorrect assumptions about people?
You also called the owner of this forum "an idiot" and urged him to "stop drinking the wine"
Presumably because he doesn't share YOUR views on matters.
I think it would a good Christian gesture if you would humbly apologize to to the host of this site for the insults you've hurled at him. (just a suggestion)
Because frankly I'm sure that deep down you really don't find E-Watchman to be an 'idiot.'
Do you?
You couldn't possibly, because if you really did please let me ask you this...
Who would be the BIGGER "IDIOT" here?
The original IDIOT?
(Him)
Or the "IDIOT" who always reads and constantly analyzes the the writings of an "IDIOT?
(You)
(Of course...I'm not calling ANYONE anything.... I'm just merely ASKING ….. )
No need to apologize really. Thanks though, that was kind of you.
However I am done with you...
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Watchman,
Great site...keep up the unsubstantiated, speculative commentary.
I guess I am an idiot for reading your stuff and expecting more from you...
Later.
Elena maree
Watchman or someone who works for him took down my last post. As for me, this website is no different than the kingdom hall. Say something that the elders don't want anyone else to hear, and they will do their very best to silence, or ignore you.
"Nevertheless, in order that it may not be spread abroad further among the people, let us tell them with threats not to speak anymore upon the basis of this NAME (NOT NAMES) to any man at all. With that they called them and charged them, nowhere to make any utterance or teach upon the basis of the NAME YAHSHUA." (Acts 4:17-18)
I bet the Sadducees would have loved to deleted some of what the disciples said, but now they can. Good thing they didn't teach by using the internet!
"These, therefore, went their way before the Sanhedrin, rejoicing because they have been counted worthy to be dishonored in behalf of his NAME (NOT NAMES) (YAHSHUA NOT JESUS)." (Acts 5:41)
Watchman
Not that you care or anything, but I'll tell you anyways. I am but a babe. What do you call a man that feels that he must delete the words and questions of a babe? It makes me wonder that when people have posted some out there comments on your website, as we can see above, and you don't delete their non sense. But when I post some non desirable questions and say some non desirable things in your eyes, you delete it! I see why you compare the locust thing in Joel to the internet. Just like a locust you can destroy using the internet, gobbling up the words of a babe!
Another theory of what Joel could be portraying when he talks about "armies of various, voracious insect species, climbing over protective walls and through open windows", could mean vast numbers of people (millions, literally) who suddenly find themselves out of work at the same time, when the system goes down. The angry, desperate crowds then go on a mass looting spree - "climbing over protective walls and through open windows..."
Regarding the 8th King, I really like the "Common English Bible" translation of Daniel 8:24-25
"At the height of his power, he will wreak unbelievable destructions.
He will succeed in all he does. He will destroy both the mighty and the people of the holy ones.
Along with his cunning, he will succeed by using deceit.
In his own mind, he will be great.
In a time of peace, he will bring destruction on many, opposing even the supreme leader.
But he will be broken — and not by a human hand." - Daniel 8:24-25 (Common English Bible.)
I found something a couple of days ago that was very revealing. For all those Jehovah's Witnesses or pretenders.
If you have in possession a Watchtower library CD, type in the name Yahweh in the search.
Click on Yahweh. At the bottom you will see,
'Why "Jehovah" is used instead of:'
Click on na 8-11.
Under the subheading 'Which Pronunciation Will You Use?' paragraph 3 it reads,
"To take the most prominent example, consider the name of Jesus. Do you know how Jesus family and friends addressed him in day-to-day conversation while he was growing up in Narareth? The truth is, no human knows for certain, although it may have been something like Yeshua (or perhaps Yahoshua). IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT JESUS."
The Watchtower admits that it prefers the traditional or naturalized name of Jehovah. They rather listen to the Anglo German European Professors than to listen to the Hebrew prophets of Yahweh.
My own mother called me wicked and demonic for saying that Yahweh did not name his Son Jesus, and that he named him Yahshua. She said I'm in darkness. To bad most Jehovah Witnesses don't really study the publications of the Watchtower. I asked her how could you pray in the name of Jesus when your leaders tell you that the Messiah of Nazareth is CERTAINLY NOT JESUS! Sadly, she said in a low voice that it doesn't really matter, and that it's not that important. She said that she doesn't want to talk about spiritual things. Yes, there are Jehovah's Witnesses that don't want to talk about the truth. I never thought I'd ever say anything like that about Jehovah's Witnesses when I was growing up.
I told her that she should always want to speak about spiritual things.
"Do not, therefore, throw away your freeness of speech, which has a great reward to be paid it."
(Hebrews 10:35)
is it not time for ALL who BELIEVE that Jesus was the son of God who came to save mankind
, to give hope of the resurrection of the dead, to shine the light of eternal light upon mortal man and transform them to sons of light, to be heirs of his kingdom.
to stop fighting and arguing and finger pointing and ridiculing and accusing, to stand together as one and show this dark satanic led world that we are not of its source but are children of God.
satan must laughing his socks off!
Oh God, 9/11 conspiracy stuff? Really?? Most of you probably know me. I'm a skeptic by nature. The government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. Lets say we prescribe this scenario a probability. I would put it in the same category as alien abductions. Yes, it's possible aliens occasional visit our planet and abduct humans for experimentation purposes using advanced technology. Not a probability of zero, just very very unlikely.
The overwhelming amount of people that would necessarily be required to be in on the conspiracy is staggering. You're talking millions of people. Private citizens, police officers, scientists, various government officials, journalists, firefighters, demolition experts, engineers, contractors, military personnel, even people that were in the buildings. Our government pulled that off? Are you serious? We can't even figure out healthcare, but we can pull off something like that? Speaking from an honest, objective point of view, I am confident dismissing this conspiracy as absurd.
When you look into the actual science, you see there really isn't a conspiracy. The dots these people connect just don't exist. This position is the definition of a paranoid delusion. Any idiot can point to a few unknowns variables. Research isn't hard. Tracking the answers only requires initiative. Armed with the Internet, there is simply no excuse for ignorance. There are countless peer reviewed articles outlining exactly how everything happened. The only controversy is the one fabricated in the minds of conspiracy theorists. I admit, having an open mind can be good. Sometimes conspiracies are true. Consider the Watergate incident. Keep an open mind; just remember not to open it so much your brain might fall out.
Paranoid fantasies like this primarily represent an inner struggle to find meaning. We find uncertainty to be undesirable. Our species wants "reasons" behind things that happen. Getting blown up by terrorist during a coffee break isn't a prospect we find particularly inspiring.
The logic is simple. So much suffering -- such as the 9/11 attacks -- requires a masterplan -- a reason; it has to have meaning and purpose. The government planned the whole thing. That's retarded, but at least it's a plan. A handful of pissed off radicals? That's unacceptable. We prefer the conspiracy, embracing the comfort of a delusion. We contrive these conspiracy stories to believe instead of facing the uncertain realities of a cruel world. These conspiracy concepts simply augment painful atrocities with a veneer of purpose and intent. Of course, it's always possible I could be wrong.
...but I'm not.
How does the healthcare boondoggle, which is clearly intended to be a chaotic theater presentation to confuse the issue so big corporations can continue to plunder the people, have anything to do with the ability to plan 9-11?
To say it's the "government" IS a bit ridiculous. Of course the Government wasn't the orchestrator. More so, the global elite turning 9-11 into the modern day Reichstag so they can "carrot on a stick" control America to comply to their atrocities.
The funny part is, of all the "Private citizens, police officers, scientists, various government officials, journalists, firefighters, demolition experts, engineers, contractors, military personnel" many of which had many questions and expert opnions that would SUPPORT the conspiracy theory ideas, would NOT be heard in the courts during the investigation!
Always looking, but never seeing.
Anzwertree
Thanks for the smile on my face.. If I may I’ll give you (A) for effort, not that my little opinion matters a single iota.. It doesn’t ;-)
Loved your hyperbole; you should become a fiction realist writer (is there such a thing???)
There is no point of throwing “stick&stones” at your thesis – But honestly deep down I wish I could have your solid self reassurance , a confidence born of necessity to make sense or should we say un/sense of the world in which we exist..
Yes indeed the holy writings start off with a big old juicy conspiracy… It’s like the foundation corner stone of every thing esoteric… Sorry little old me can’t do a thing about that it’s like they say “etched in stone” …
Good “luck” to you Anzwertree oh wait that won’t work for you.. better said.. “Happy Trails”
Every thing apart I’m sure we would enjoy each others company I don’t know you but I like you.. Its’ just a gut feeling
brian
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Yes I think Anzertree is Robert!
I would have to agree, it is delusional to think that anything but those planes brought down the towers.
Antw. laid it out, no need to repeat.
When fundamentalist atheist sceptics like Anzwertree and Christian visionaries like Watchman alike, are religiously convicted by the occult miracle of modern high-rise buildings spontaneously exploding into cascading concrete showers,
free-falling from the sky into their own footprint in clouds of billowing dust - in uncanny symbolism of the pulverization of truth at the onslaught of supremacist neo-Semitism,
as it works its populist magick supreme, on both the unwashed masses and their chattering classes alike, in taking over the world right in front of their spiralling eyes - it is time for heading to the hills, folks.
In a day and age when any Joe can become a controlled demolition expert overnight, simply by deploying a few thousand gallons of jet fuel in the upper levels of any steel and concrete sky-scraper, to make it neatly collapse into its own footprint,
why spend millions of dollars on elite demolition explosive professionals with specialized expertise and years of experience, to merely achieve the same spectacular results?
"...and you KNOW something is happening here, but you don’t know WHAT it is - - - Do you, mister Jones?" (Lyrics: Ballad of a thin man)
Anzwertree,
You ol' truck driver! How ya doing? WE like all of the one up-man-ship going on. It's great! Point, counter point; none of you really get it do you? Keep arguing it makes things so easy to manipulate the world.
Obviously, all of you were educated (LOL) in the public school system huh? LMAO
Princeton
prog
"When fundamentalist atheist sceptics like Anzwertree and Christian visionaries like Watchman alike, are religiously convicted by the occult miracle of modern high-rise buildings spontaneously exploding into cascading concrete showers"
Maybe you don't keep up with the news or whatever, but the Twin Towers did not "spontaneously explode." They were struck by rather large, fuel-laden jet airliners that exploded and sheered through supporting steel beams and created a towering inferno effect that buckled the remaining steel skeleton.
Watchman,
You make it so easy, thank you. The only accurate part about your statement is that there were two fuel laden airliners that exploded. The rest of your rhetoric is official story, mainstream propaganda being spewed by somebody(you) who obviously has done absolutely no research on the matter regarding actual verifiable facts. Shame, shame, as I mentioned earlier I expect more from you, as I'm certain others do as well.
Here is a link to the ACTUAL 911 dispatch for NY Fire Dept on that day. NY Fire Dispatch 911
If you scroll down on the list you will see several audio files for that day. On the last one titled "Port Authority Audio Repeater" you will hear a statement made by Battalion Chief Orio Palmer that completely refutes what YOU are implying in your, once again uneducated statements. Around 1:07:45 into the audio Chief Palmer tells dispatch that there are two ISOLATED pockets of fire. Here is the text of the audio if you don't want to hear it. I understand, sometimes the truth hurts.
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9:52 a.m.
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha."
"Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones." [code ones are dead bodies]
Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?"
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post."
Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."
Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way."
9:52 a.m.
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha for Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "South tower, Steve, south tower, tell them...Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15.
"Fifteen."
Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you."
Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifteen Roof to 15. We're on 71. We're coming right up."
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Hardly the inferno you describe in your statement. The FACT of the matter is that most of the fuel in the planes was burned up in the explosions which certainly gives the uneducated the idea that a large inferno was created. However, actual on the scene eyewitness testimony by professional firefighters repudiates this smoke and screens tactic used to brainwash trusting, yet simple minded individuals that the fires brought down the world trade centers. There was fire, but no inferno which brought down that building in that manner. You want to see an inferno?
THIS is a TOWERING INFERNO
Especially after 1:15 in video you can see the complete devastation this fire caused to the entire building. And by the way, the building never fell, it has since then been remodeled.
You are beginning to remind me of the WTS prophetic interpreters, in that they refuse to see the 1914 lie as what it truly is.
If not water, at least try some coffee...it's time to sober up.
I have been without a computer, for about a month.It has realy been hard,coz there are no people that I can really talk to about real truth,on matters such as this. I know a lot of people are afraid to speak 0n things like this, and you can not really blame them. Were there several of the ones, who were relatives of ones lost who were trying to find out what really happened, and many of them died or ?. So I think fear is a real motive to not tell the exact truth. The facts are pretty much black and white, so some are not really trying to find the real truth, either not doing their research, and thinking that what they they know is truth, or worse, they say so out of the TRAP fear. Maybe some could tell more facts of the towers, that I do not think I have read on this forum, but what has been mentioned so far is more than enough for any thinking person! Just my two cents, for what it is worth.
Watchman,
After watching the following short video compilation A&E Testimony of several experts citing their professional opinion would you be willing to again produce your statement mentioned earlier of how the towers fell?
In your professional, and expert opinion of course.
So, there you go, the post above mine was written and the same time I wrote mine,meaning it was not there when I began to write mine, and still yet there is even more facts that can be told again,.
in recorded history there are only 3 buildings of steel structure that have collapsed due to fire.
Trade Centre 1, 2 & 7.
who was it that was heard saying to get all people back from building seven, that they were going to Pull it, that is a demolation term, and the whole thing can be found, and it is verifiable?
I do agree with your explanation about military strategy, in which French government is involved, though French people usually distrust USA.
I recently watched on French TV a report about new wallets that US-Army would use to bring peace, love and freedom in China: they enable to create independent web (that Chinese governement could not check).
I do agree too that giant insects of the Revelation can be translated as modern weapons, robots. Because mathematics are insect logic of ingeneers who made these weapons.
About the idea that 'God does not need Politics for his Revelation': God's Church or Saints make the Revelation. God do not need Revelation. As Apostle Paulus says: 'I want to see God face to face', and of course he is making efforts for that purpose, besides he would himself be an insect.
"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb. 15 p.12
"During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovahs people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovahs universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.2
"Are You Prepared for Survival?"
Re: WTS Quotes as quoted by Read God's Word Daily
I must praise Jehovah God & the Lord Jesus Christ for setting me free from such fear-inducing, repressive, dominating & evil poison.
I agree that the WTS, like ALL Christian denominations, teaches an element of truth, but the teaching that one must be in the "Ark" of the WTS in order to be saved is a dangerous anti-Christ teaching.
Any teaching that puts man at the "head" of a Christian group/organisation/church is, by it's very nature, anti-Christ, as we all know Christ, Himself, is the sole Head of the church. The WTS may pay lip-service to Christ, but the fact is, they have actively attempted to place themselves as the "neck" in the Body, if not the very "head" itself.
Those who have built their foundation on the shaky WTS and not the solid foundation of the true Rock will be in for a rude awakening when the walls come tumbling down.
By the way, Brothers & Sisters, there is a great blog that has regular updates and clear, simple, Bible-based teachings & commentary:
http://freegiftfromgod.com/blog/
It's not mine, nor am I associated with it; I just thought I'd mention it as I, personally, find it a great read...