A Watchman Is What I Have Made You
Saturday, April 16, 2011 at 6:08AM 
Previously published article from 2004 as the first in a series on Ezekiel
A lone man stands gazing into the sky as the heavens grow ominously dark and the wind begins to blow tempestuously. A great storm is sweeping down from out of the north. But this is no ordinary atmospheric thunderstorm. As if concealing some other worldly visitor, all around the foreboding, billowing, cloud mass there is emitted a strange and entrancing iridescent glow. No, this is no natural weather phenomenon at all, and the observer of this awesome spectacle is no ordinary man. He is the Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel, and the very hand of Jehovah has come down upon his prophet. Yes, Ezekiel is in the grip of a divinely inspired phantasma!
The enraptured prophet goes on to relate the vision as it unfolds: In the midst of the roiling clouds are quivering rivers of energetic fire. Suddenly there appear, hovering, four tremendous living creatures; each with four differing earthly faces and four wings and the hands of a man; their bodies glowing like super-heated coals. Something like flaming torches are conveyed from one living creature to the other and out of the brightness of the torches great charges of lightening flash – as if transmitting messages to one another by electrical means.
Beside each of the four living creatures are four sets of colossal wheels within wheels. The wheels have a luminosity like the precious stone chrysolite; each possessing human-like eyes all around their rims. The prophet is dwarfed by the sheer immensity of the extraterrestrial machinery.
The living creatures effortlessly control and steer the wheels to wherever the spirit inclines. The wheels may be levitated up above the earth or they may touch upon the earth as they revolve. When the cosmic chariot moves the beating wings of the supportive living creatures make a deafening and terrifying sound – “like the sound of the Almighty One.”
Towering high above the hovering wheel-like structure supported by the four living creatures, the prophet next describes a great expanse “like the sparkle of awesome ice,” which serves as the platform for a most glorious passenger. A voice emanates from above the sparkling expanse, where Ezekiel next envisions a throne – rivaling an enthralling deep blue sapphire in appearance. And there, seated upon the throne, the source of the voice and of the light breaching the dark cloud mass – a human-like figure, brilliant, shimmering like molten silvery-golden electrum and fire; emitting resplendent brightness all around, with a rainbow of exquisite beauty arching above him – It is the very glory of Almighty Jehovah!
Ezekiel is overcome by the awesome vision and falls upon his face in fearful reverence. Not knowing what to expect next, we can only imagine that Ezekiel was relieved to hear a friendly and reassuring voice from the throne inviting him to stand up in order that Jehovah might speak with him, person to person.
Indeed, there is a reason that Ezekiel has been symbolically invited into Jehovah’s presence in heaven: God has an assignment for him – a mission! The One seated on the throne speaks intelligibly to Ezekiel, saying: “Son of man, I am sending you to the sons of Israel, to rebellious nations that have rebelled against me. They themselves and their forefathers have transgressed against me down to this selfsame day. And the sons insolent of face and hard of heart—I am sending you to them, and you must say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said.’ And as for them, whether they will hear or will refrain—for they are a rebellious house—they will certainly know also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them.”
Ezekiel is given the weighty commission of announcing Jehovah’s coming judgments to his brothers, the sons of Israel. The command then comes down to Ezekiel from the chariot-throne to take and consume a scroll that is spread out before him with moanings and dirges written upon it, front and back. Ezekiel accepts his assignment and eats what becomes in his mouth sweet tasting. By symbolically ingesting the scroll it is as if Ezekiel has fully digested its prophetic contents, thereby establishing a pattern for any antitypical watchman to comprehendingly digest Ezekiel’s prophecy.
Since the prophecy of Ezekiel is ultimately earmarked for fulfillment “in the final part of the days”— when all peoples and nations will be compelled “to know that I am Jehovah” – it is reasonable to expect that an anointed Ezekiel-like watchman would be appointed in advance of the execution of Jehovah’s judgments in order that he might similarly sound the warning to the modern spiritual counterpart to the house of Israel – echoing and broadcasting the very judgments contained in Ezekiel.
Despite the fact that the essential distinguishing feature of the relationship of a watchman to the house of Israel is the singularity of one man sent to denounce a covenant-breaking nation and its institutions, the Watchtower Society claims that the entire congregation of now long-since departed anointed Christians was originally appointed to the post of watchman in 1919 – since then comprising a so-called Ezekiel class – with the diverse branches, denominations and various sects of Christendom making up a supposed apostate “house of Israel.”
Jehovah’s Witnesses do well to remember, though, that God set himself on judgment with Israel and Judah because they were actually in a marriage-like relationship with him and because they repeatedly and flagrantly broke their vows of faithfulness and obedience. For example, at Ezekiel 5:7 Jehovah stated: “This is Jerusalem. In the midst of the nations I have set her, with lands all around her. And she proceeded to behave rebelliously against my judicial decisions in wickedness more than the nations, and against my statutes more than the lands that are all around her, for my judicial decisions they rejected and, as for my statutes, they did not walk in them.’
Most assuredly, the Jews did not merely claim to be in a covenant with Jehovah. Their ancestors actually entered into a binding agreement with God that obligated all their offspring to abide by its terms or else forfeit the Land of the covenant.
Contrary to that simple fact of scripture, the Watchtower Society claims that Jehovah actually recognizes Christendom as being in a legitimate covenant with him merely because of her pretensions. But Ezekiel’s prophecy clearly indicates that Jehovah’s purpose is not merely to destroy a derelict nation but to correct and ultimately bless it. However, the Watchtower’s interpretation is backwards. According to the Society, God first restores and blesses spiritual Israel, which supposedly took place in 1919, and then afterwards he destroys apostate Israel (Christendom). Such an interpretation is self-serving and unscriptural.
On the other hand, it is recognized that all anointed Christians are in a binding covenant with God through Christ and are therefore accountable according to the terms of the covenant. That being the case, it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah’s purpose to sanctify his holy name is in relation to those in covenant with him who have profaned the name he has given them. (See 20th chapter of Ezekiel) Accordingly, the ancient pattern establishes that it is God’s intention to humble his people by concealing his judgments from them while revealing his confidential prophetic matters to an individual – a watchman – so that ultimately “they will certainly know also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them.” It is by that means that they will ultimately know he is Jehovah.
Suddenly, the celestial chariot begins to roll again with a great rushing sound. Ezekiel is caught up and borne along in the bitterness and rage of his spirit.
A week later as the prophet was sitting, still stunned from his previous visionary encounter with the supernatural chariot and its awesome Rider, Jehovah again speaks to Ezekiel and explains to him the duties and responsibilities of being a watchman, which is what God had made him. Jehovah reiterates that Ezekiel is to warn the house of Israel of Jehovah’s impending judgment against it: “Son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and you must hear from my mouth speech and you must warn them from me.” (Ezekiel 3:17)
Some unreasoning persons may insist that God ought to reveal his judgments directly, personally. However, the pattern repeated throughout the Scriptures indicates that Jehovah entrusts his message to specific individuals, who are then charged with relaying the messages and divine warnings entrusted to them.
In this instance Jehovah assures his prophet that although his fellow countrymen will not assent to his prophetic message and will hard-headedly resist his efforts to warn them, God will impart strength to Ezekiel in order to make his own head harder than rock – even as hard as diamond that cuts rock! Jehovah’s wayward organization will not prevail over his appointed watchman.
However, in order to portray the restraints that would be placed upon him by the hardheaded and hard-hearted Jews, Jehovah next tells his watchman: “Come, be shut up inside your house. And you, O son of man, look! they will certainly put cords upon you and bind you with them so that you cannot go forth into the midst of them. And your very tongue I will make stick to the roof of your mouth, and you will certainly become mute, and you will not become to them a man administering reproof, because they are a rebellious house.”
Cloistered in his own home for a time, it was as if Ezekiel was temporarily bound and gagged to illustrate the extent to which the Jews would go to prevent him from expressing the divinely inspired message entrusted to him. Nevertheless, Jehovah’s judgments cannot be muted or nullified by men. The watchman is charged with announcing the coming executional sword.
In modern times, the World Wide Web has provided the perfect medium for circumventing the Watchtower’s information monopoly over Jehovah’s Witnesses and has allowed a modern watchman to publicly announce Jehovah’s coming judgments.
As if to foreshadow this, Jehovah next commanded his prophet to make numerous public demonstrations portending the coming siege of Jerusalem and the holy temple. (See Ezekiel chapters 4-5)
JEHOVAH’S FOUR INJURIOUS ACTS OF JUDGMENT
The 5th, 6th and 7th chapters of Ezekiel reveal the means by which Jehovah’s judgments are to be executed: It is by means of the sword of war, famine, pestilence and wild beasts of the earth that God’s holy place and sanctuary will become a desolate object of astonishment. Only a remnant will escape.
“‘Therefore as I am alive,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘surely for the reason that it was my sanctuary that you defiled with all your disgusting things and with all your detestable things, I myself also am the One that will diminish you and my eye will not feel sorry and I myself also will not show compassion. A third of you—by the pestilence they will die, and by famine they will come to their end in the midst of you. And another third—by the sword they will fall all around you. And the last third I shall scatter even to every wind, and a sword is what I shall draw out after them.”
Ezekiel 14:21-22 reiterates God’s purpose to use “four injurious acts of judgment”: “For this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘So, too, it will be when there will be my four injurious acts of judgment—sword and famine and injurious wild beast and pestilence—that I shall actually send upon Jerusalem in order to cut off from it earthling man and domestic animal. But, look! there will certainly be left remaining in it an escaped company, those being brought forth. Sons and daughters, here they are! They are going forth to you people, and you will have to see their way and their dealings. And you will certainly be comforted over the calamity that I shall have brought upon Jerusalem, even all that I shall have brought upon her.’”
The parallel between Ezekiel’s prophecy and the opening of the seals of the Apocalypse are unmistakable. Inarguably, nation arising against nation, food shortages and pestilences are to serve, not only as the future sign of Christ’s presence, but the very means by which Jehovah sets himself on judgment with the Christian Israel of God in order to purge from it the unfaithful and discipline and gather the remnant of approved chosen ones – so that they may know that he is Jehovah.
Ironically, the self-proclaimed “Ezekiel class” of Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that the divine judgment of war, famine, pestilence and rapacious political wild beasts commenced in 1914; however, if that were true what evidence is there that any antitypical Jerusalem was brought low by those “four injurious acts of judgment”?
In the context of the judgment of the sword of war, famine, pestilence and devouring wild beasts of the earth, Ezekiel 7:19 added: “Into the streets they will throw their very silver, and an abhorrent thing their own gold will become. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury. Their souls they will not satisfy, and their intestines they will not fill, for it has become a stumbling block causing their error.”
Typically, during times of hardship and scarcity associated with war and social breakdown money becomes even more valuable because those possessing gold and silver may be able to buy their freedom or purchase scarce resources. That being the case, and since gold and silver never lose their intrinsic value, why would the besieged Jews voluntarily throw their valuables into the streets to be scooped up by the pillagers? It is only understandable in light of the modern phenomenon of paper and digital money, which, unlike gold and silver, have no intrinsic value and are hence, inevitably, subject to being de-valued to the point of becoming completely worthless.
Indeed, modern history has numerous examples of just such a thing; the most striking being the case of the hyperinflationary collapse of the Reichsmark in 1923, which resulted in the German currency becoming worth less than the paper it was printed on. It is reported that people burned bundles of Reichsmarks as fuel. Undoubtedly, the Watchtower’s billions will be incinerated in the day of Jehovah’s anger; when Jehovah’s “four injurious acts of judgment” are brought to bear against the organization and the financial system it relies upon for its day-to-day operation.
Picking him up by a tuft of his hair, Jehovah next transports his watchman to Jerusalem, where Ezekiel again envisions the colossal chariot, this time as it hovers menacingly over the iniquitous city.
Far from symbolizing God’s organization as the Watchtower presently assumes, Jehovah’s chariot is a war chariot! It is wheeled into position for one reason only – war! Just as in ancient times when warring kings would station themselves in their royal chariots upon a promontory or elevation overlooking the battlefield in order to command the troops, it is an ominous development indeed for Jehovah’s war chariot to have taken up a position over Jerusalem. Since Jerusalem served as the capital of Jehovah’s earthly organization at the time, it is apparent that the drawing up of heaven’s chariot symbolizes the initiation of the judgment upon Jehovah’s earthly organization.
God next causes Ezekiel to see inside the temple entrances and courtyards. No doubt Ezekiel was shocked to envision all sorts of detestable forms of idolatry being carried on in secret by the older men. Particularly offensive to God was what was taking place in the inner courtyard of the house of Jehovah, where 25 of the principal men had their backs turned to the temple and were bowing down to the rising sun.
After causing his prophet to view the detestable things being done in the temple, Jehovah went on to say to Ezekiel: “Have you seen this, O son of man? Is it such a light thing to the house of Judah to do the detestable things that they have done here, that they have to fill the land with violence and that they should offend me again, and here they are thrusting out the shoot to my nose? And I myself also shall act in rage. My eye will not feel sorry, neither shall I feel compassion. And they will certainly call out in my ears with a loud voice, but I shall not hear them.”
Anything that supplants or dilutes the worship of Jehovah is idolatrous, no matter how innocuous it may appear. Following the ancient pattern of the temple idolaters, the leading men of Jehovah’s modern earthly organization are also guilty of practicing and promoting a form of idolatry – organizational idolatry – whereby, the organization is exalted and made to occupy the place of God in the hearts and minds of many.
Shockingly, too, the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses have manifestly turned their backs to Jehovah in recent years by making a secret pledge to promote the political agenda of the United Nations; even using the God-dedicated resources of the Watchtower Society in the service of the UN as an approved associate NGO and cunningly employing trusting Jehovah’s Witnesses as couriers of UN propaganda. Since their exposure the Watchtower and her apologists excuse such acts of treachery by making it seem like “such a light thing.” (See chapter: Strange Bedfellows)
Worse, Bethel also continues to deny the rights of sexually abused children of Jehovah’s Witnesses; their lawyers even maintaining that Watchtower-appointed elders bear no responsibility whatsoever to protect children from the thousands of known sexual predators lurking in the congregations. (See various Watchman blog articles) Through various means such as intimidation, threats of disfellowshipping and legal gag orders imposed upon payouts, the Watchtower Society's legal apparatus has sought to muzzle the outcry of complaint on the part of the abused. Presumably under the guise of not bringing reproach upon the name of Jehovah, when in fact the wicked policies promoted by Bethel have done just the opposite.
Above all things, the public image and financial welfare of the Watchtower Society are the primary considerations of the leadership, and as a result, Jehovah has effectively been relegated to the secondary position of official heavenly consort of the Organization.
From God’s point of view such practices and attitudes are detestable and amount to idolatry and spiritual adultery. Of course, any of Jehovah’s Witnesses who may protest such evils are summarily disfellowshipped for disloyalty to the Organization and consequently cut off from their family and friends. By such means “they have to fill the land with violence.”
As a result of such detestable things being done in his sanctuary and city, Jehovah commands a divine messenger dressed in linen to pass through the city in advance of the destroyers in order to place a mark on the foreheads of those deemed worthy of survival. The execution of God’s judgment is to begin at the very house of Jehovah, within the sanctuary. So, as soon as the symbolic marking is accomplished the order is given to the man in linen to reach into the flaming wheel work of the judgment chariot and toss a handful of flaming hot coals over the city to commence God’s fiery purge of the faithless from among his people.
(A similar judgment upon God’s earthly organization is symbolized in Revelation the 8th chapter; where, after the marking of the saints takes place, an angel takes fire from a heavenly altar and flings it to the earth. See the chapter entitled Revelation in Jehovah Himself Has Become King.)
The 11th chapter of Ezekiel opens with Jehovah’s watchman being transported by the spirit to the eastern gate of the house of Jehovah, where 25 men, princes of the people, are sitting in counsel. Jehovah then says to Ezekiel: “Son of man, these are the men that are scheming hurtfulness and advising bad counsel against this city; that are saying, ‘Is not the building of houses close at hand? She is the widemouthed cooking pot, and we are the flesh.’”
The older men of Jerusalem stubbornly ignored the warnings given through Jehovah’s prophets. They felt secure in the knowledge that God had always protected Jerusalem and its temple, such as when God’s angel destroyed the encamped Assyrian army when it threatened to invade Judah. They assumed God would always do so. How wrong they were!
Similarly today, the leading men of Bethel have schemed to persuade Jehovah’s Witnesses to place their trust in the supposed righteousness and permanence of the Watchtower Society. For example, in spite of the prevalence of all sorts of evil within the congregations the leadership presumptuously boasts that the organization actually constitutes the prophetic spiritual paradise of God’s making. (See chapter: Spiritual Paradise)
In order to convince Jehovah’s Witnesses that the publishing organization has received God’s irreversible blessing numerous Bible prophecies are twisted in such a way so as to place the judgment upon the house of God in the distant past (1918), while applying all restoration prophecies to the modern Watchtower Society. For a fact, the Watchtower Society places great emphasis on its many building projects around the world and the assumption is that the growth of Jehovah’s so-called “visible organization” will continue. In fact, the Watchtower Society has a grand scheme to build a brand new headquarters facility in New York State and cash out of their valuable Brooklyn properties. (“Is not the building of houses near?”)
Jehovah’s Witnesses have thus been subtly seduced into believing that their spiritual welfare is secured through their relationship with the Watchtower Society. In that way the Society presents itself as the “widemouthed cooking pot” where the faithful might conceal themselves from calamity.
But alas, just as the city of Jerusalem did not prove to be a secure haven for the Jews in Ezekiel’s day, so too, the Watchtower Society will soon be exposed as a false haven. Jehovah’s Witnesses will have to know that Jehovah is a God of judgment and that he will not indefinitely tolerate the wicked schemes of faithless organization worshippers. God’s judicial decree is as follows:
“On the border of Israel I shall judge you people; and you will have to know that I am Jehovah. She herself will not prove to be for you a widemouthed cooking pot, and you yourselves will not prove to be flesh in the midst of her. On the border of Israel I shall judge you, and you will have to know that I am Jehovah.”
God next commands his watchman to denounce the stupid prophets that have come to reside in the intimate group of Jehovah’s people.
Reader Comments (17)
Hi Watchman,
re:" In fact, the Watchtower Society has a grand scheme to build a brand new headquarters facility in New York State and cash out of their valuable Brooklyn properties".
I didn't know the WT had a plan for a new HQ. But the thought had occurred to me that the Society may not go down as you predict based on a dollar crash scenario. The possibility exists that they may be preserved through other asets among their vast real estate holdings, namely commodities and precious metals. We should not assume that a non profit corporation run by volenteers, doesn't employ financial experts for their financial well being. There have been rumours of the past about their stock holdings in the Rand Corp. How about Montesano other other major food conglomerates? How about holdings(maybe physical included)in Gold or Silver mining companies or other valuable metals?
How about cash donations to local politicians(rubbing shoulders) in and around New York City?.
We should also assume that those at the top aren't oblivious to the frivilous spending of the government via QE1, QE2 and probably QE3 at some future point as the feds continue to monetize their debt and keep the ball rolling.
So they may be preparing in more ways then we really know, and who knows, maybe this new HQ will be designed in such a way as to have a special throne for the "man of Lawlessness"(Satan) since they already teach a mandatory false parasouia, waiting for his due arrival ?
So it's very possible that there may not be dual prophetic fullfilments of a "stone not being left upon a stone" such as in the case of Jerusalem, unless of course the WT headquarters were to be burned down and entirely destroyed.
What do you think?
One more thing I forgot to add. I remember hearing that the WT owns farm land in upstate NY that they cultivate. Of course by the means of free labor. So it looks as though the WT anointed will do just fine, and will be ready to take their ministry to the next level of the NWO when the dust settles .
Watchman,
unfortunately the WT has got this point right, namely viewing Christendom as anti-typical Jerusalem - only they do not realize that they themselves are a part of this apostate entity which awaits Divine extermination, with only a tiny repentant remnant of survivors.
God could not, of course, use an organization such as the WT-anointed - who themselves are teaching God-dishonouring lies and are persecuting the holy ones - to act as witnesses against their equally guilty compatriots in Christendom, without it turning into a farce.
It seems strange that, despite your insights into the details of prophecy, you nevertheless fail to see the bigger picture of Christendom, including the WT, as constituting God's nominal and apostate people, upon whom God's judgment is to be meted out in the final part of the days.
That enlarged and scripturally objective worldview would, of course, reduce your status from being THE unique watchman of God's people to being merely one of many prophetic witnesses who are announcing God's judgment against the whole of His wayward, nominal people in all of Christendom,
which might be a bit of a downer for you - but look at it from the positive side and rejoice in your opportunity to become one of the thousands of members of Christ's Body in exile who are accomplishing God's work for the approaching time of the end.
As to your point that all anointed Christians are in a covenant relationship with the Father, you are quite right there, but this special relationship ONLY applies to those who REALLY are His genuine Spirit begotten sons - the true wheat that by definition cannot turn into weeds -
which of course excludes all those who lyingly profess to have already been judged faithful by a christ who has returned and already appointed them over all his belongings, as is the case with all those anointed by the WT.
Those who have once for all been enlightened cannot ever be 'restored' by God's 'discipline' and 'correction' once they lyingly bear witness against the truth that Christ's parousia has not yet started - just as those who have been enlightened, but persist in the lie of the trinity, are lost forever in their wilful error and rebellion against the light.
That the Body of Christ, the Christian Congregation, is not the subject of the many restoration prophecies of the Hebrew Scriptures can easily be seen from Paul's stern warning to those who have once for all been enlightened and who have become partakers of Holy Spirit, against their falling away from sound doctrine, because it will be impossible to revive them again to repentance!
Hence, the concept of a repentant remnant, as portrayed by the Prophets can only apply to a small number of God's nominal, born in the flesh - that is non-anointed, even if pretending to have been born of the Spirit - people, who are left over out of Christendom - including the WT - after the end of the great tribulation against God's nominal people.
There is more to the prophetic picture than meets your interpretive eye - so look again, Watchman!
quote-"one of the thousands of members of Christ's Body in exile who are accomplishing God's work for the approaching time of the end."
Proxy, where are these true members of Christ's body? Show me what they are accomlishing? Are you claiming to be one of these?
Anthony,
despite the assertion of the WT-anointed - over the last decades or so - that we are now 'deep' into the time of the end, it is in reality early days yet, and the start of the conclusion of this system of things is nowhere near in sight.
Still, that is no cause for complacency on the part of all those waiting for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ in glory, the hope of all true Christians.
But it does explain the low profile kept by the Body of Christ in exile at the moment, before the arrival of the incoming kingdom which will be cheered and 'followed with admiration' by all those dwelling on the earth,
and which will drag the holy ones before its courts and synagogues, in order to afford them an opportunity to level God's denunciation against their NWO kingdom-paradise as being inspired by Satan -
you can imagine how well that will go down with 'those who say they are Jews but are not,'
and who are presently ruling the world.
There are quite a few things we know about the members of Christ's body, namely that they will be 'gathered together from the four extremities of the earth,' immediately after the end of the great tribulation on Christianity.
That makes sense, since Paul predicted that genuine anointed ones would have to go forth to Christ 'outside the camp' of God's nominal people and their established, but apostate arrangement of worship, in order to bear the reproach that was also heaped upon Christ, when He was accused of blasphemy and apostasy from God's law and people.
Further, their succeeding in escaping all the things that are destined to come upon the inhabited earth, including the great tribulation against God's nominal people, shows that the chosen ones cannot be a part of the WT or any other organization of Christendom.
Only those who have kept themselves from 'women,' that is, spiritual whores like the WT and their fellow hookers in the rest of Christendom are of the Body of Christ.
That is why it is so important for those newly anointed while in associating with any Christian organization, to speak out against the lies and unscriptural practices they are confronted with, regardless of the consequences to them, in order to keep their place in the Body of Christ.
Outside the Body of Christ - in the WT and the rest of Christendom - are the spiritual dogs, the fearful and those liking and carrying on a lie.
Once you know what to look for, it is not too difficult to tell them apart even before the revealing of the sons of God after the end of the great tribulation on Christianity.
Proxy, I am not disputing your claim of what the WTS are not. I am willing to classify them along with the rest of Christendom as well.
But what you fail to explain is just who are the true members of the Body of Christ. You say that they are keeping a low profile and quote-“Once you know what to look for, it is not too difficult to tell them apart even before the revealing of the sons of God after the end of the great tribulation on Christianity.” End quote, but you will not reveal who they are or show what they are doing.
Like I said above about the WTS, they are not who they claim they are, no more so then the rest of Christendom, but that does not exempt those whom ever the true Body of Christ is, from doing a work that teaches and helps people know about the good news of the kingdom, and about Jehovah and Jesus. Matt 28:19,20 (You yourself said quote - “it is in reality early days yet, and the start of the conclusion of this system of things is nowhere near in sight.” So since you said the conclusion has not begun and since Jesus said to go and make disciples teaching them until the conclusion of the system of things, then that work and those doing it should be evident now, right?)
So where are they? Where is this work that they are doing? Tell me what to look for. Show me their arrangement that they have that has people gathering together. Where are the disciples? Heb 10:24,25
19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
24 And let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near.
I can hear crickets chirping. Why am I not surprised?
Who really is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave who his Master has appointed?" Where exactly is this Body of Christ? Perhaps the sounds of crickets reveal this so-called body to be nothing more than the False Prophet mentioned in scripture. Come out! Speak! Reveal yourself ... or continue to hide in the shadows, under stones, beneath sheep's covering awaiting the judgement of Jehovah and his Christ.
Anthony,
interesting and fundamental issues you are raising there, but I think you are assuming too much, based on interpretations - seemingly based on Scripture - by those pushing the agenda of their particular religious organization.
I say this in dispassionate observation - not finding fault with those thus conditioned.
It looks like you expect to find the body of Christ today as a group of people, all gathered at a specific location, unitedly converting the world to a codified form of worship guaranteeing salvation and authenticated by the working of miracles and raising of the dead.
While that would be ideal from a human standpoint - just as it would be great if the Bible were condensed into one page of things to do in order to get saved and worship God acceptably - that is not what we observe as the Divine outworking of things.
Just because the first century body of Christ started out like that, does not imply that it was to continue so through the ages and down to our day.
Back then it served its purpose of authentically spreading the message about faith in Christ's death and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and entry into eternal life, while expanding rapidly throughout the Mediterranean world,
only to spread out and proliferate even more in its apostate form, from the end of the first century onward.
So where was the Body of Christ, say in the third, fourth or fifth century to be found, for people to flock to and learn the truth from?
Who was teaching the gospel during the past 19 centuries or so, while the small number of anointed were persecuted and exiled as heretics from the established, nominal Christian Church[es]?
History tells us clearly that God did not use the Body of Christ in any significant and organized way to keep His Word alive and to spread the Gospel of Christ, nor did He use the anointed in any significant way as tools to anoint still more of His sons over the centuries,
since unlike at the start of Christianity, when the anointing was spread by the laying on of the hands of other members of Christ's Body, most of those anointed since then have received the Spirit directly from the Father and usually in association with whatever nominal, apostate Church they happen to be in, at the time.
You clearly are expecting things of the Body of Christ that the Father has seen fit to accomplish by other means, according to His purpose.
His agenda and dealings seem more geared towards using this existing world as a training ground for His sons, in order to refine and develop their character and faith, rather than for them to teach and save the world, as it were.
Of course, when the global imitation 'kingdom of God' becomes operational - which will mislead the entire inhabited earth, and if possible even the chosen ones -
it will naturally fall upon them, as the only ones not being deceived, to speak out and denounce it as being from Satan,
at which crucial point in history the eternal destiny of some 7 billion people will be decided, depending on whether or not they give heed to the globally publicized message of condemnation and doom, preached by the body of Christ against the NWO paradise-party, then in full swing to everybody's delight.
Hence what presently, and to the human eye, would look like a scattered, rag-tag bunch of disorganized people, largely unknown to each other and doing seemingly mundane stuff which has no bearing on what happens in this world dominated by powerful movers and shakers,
is in reality, if you could view it from the invisible realm, actually a highly trained and disciplined army of spiritual soldiers, organized and indwelled by their Head and Commander, Christ Jesus in Spirit,
ready to defend the truth before the whole world elite, when Satan's master deception has got everybody spell bound and convinced - by his operation of error, with lying signs and portents - that the kingdom of God has arrived.
I don't ever have to know a single fellow anointed brother in the flesh here on earth - although I do happen to know several of them - to know exactly where they stand with regard to the truth that the Father has revealed also to me, and their readiness and conviction to lay down their life defending it, just like I will.
Even if I knew the whereabouts of all my spiritual brothers and introduced them to you, you would not be benefitted any more than by your faith in the Word and promises of God, which you know already,
but I can understand, and actually sympathize with your human curiosity and genuine interest in the details of the outworking of God's purpose, for I also am walking by faith here, even if Divinely bestowed.
Paul speaks about the REVEALING of the sons of God for which the whole creation is holding their breath - in eager anticipation or dread, as the case may be.
Similarly, Christ Himself portrays His earth-bound sheep as people who UNKNOWINGLY do good to His heavenly brothers - whether actually having the opportunity to do so in person, or just displaying such an attitude of genuine care for those in need around them -
it clearly indicates that the chosen ones will not be a branded religious organization of public law, readily recognized by one and all, as you - and most other people - somehow seem to be reading into the Biblical accounts dealing with the body of Christ in exile.
The Christian Congregation is the only Church that one cannot join - even if one knew its whereabouts and meticulously followed its worship manual, the Bible - because it is a spiritual entity which can only be accessed by divine election and appointment.
Those who belong to it cannot be members of ANY other group, or subject to any other authority structure claiming their allegiance, even if supposedly in the name of God, as ALL organized religions are wont to do,
nor can they pass on their heavenly calling to others, even if they diligently tried to mold them as their followers, nor would it avail if they wrote down and codified their spiritual experiences as the start of a new Congregation to save others.
Hence, the true body of Christ, by definition, cannot ever be infiltrated or taken over by outside forces, such as happened to all start-up religions or reform movements by well intentioned individuals thinking of doing God's work for Him by 'organizing' what they imagine to be 'His Church.'
So during the past 1900 years the body of Christ has existed outside the outwardly organized Christian religions of God's nominal people as a seemingly insignificant sideshow, if you will.
Virtually all the preaching of the gospel and spread of Christianity has been accomplished by the apostate nominal Churches, including the WT, which God has used to accomplish His will of keeping alive His Word and promises.
And even then we have to remember that it was only ever less than a quarter of mankind which has had knowledge of the Gospel, but which seemed to be large enough a pool of spiritually fertile soil for God, in which to plant and raise His sons.
Clearly, God's thoughts and plans regarding the body of Christ and its function and purpose in the world are out of step with - and completely superior to - man's imagining of what it ought to be according to his fleshly frame of mind.
I know that a lot of people here are somehow awaiting a 'revealing' of the 'complete truth,' at a supposed parousia of Christ PRIOR to His actual coming and subsequent presence on the clouds of Heaven in power and glory.
It looks like that is also what most other Christians at large are on the lookout for; which causes me to worry that the Gospel of Christ, as revealed 2000 years ago, has somehow lost its value and purpose, being in need of replacing by some new, updated knowledge of 'truth' that will then save everybody.
Similarly, the WT has many people convinced that their salvation depends on 'identifying' and associating with a 'faithful slave class,' instead of on putting faith in Christ and His accomplished work on their behalf,
cleverly substituting the one for the other, and thus satisfying the craving for self-righteousness in the heart of the vicarious law keeper.
It wouldn't surprise me, therefore, if soon, after a 'great tribulation' of sorts, some 'New and complete truth' will be proclaimed by the incoming kingdom which is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things that will bedazzle all but the very elect.
Then there might be a purpose for the body of Christ after all - time will tell.
True worshipers, according to Jesus' definition of the term - whether with an earthly or heavenly hope - have all along worshiped the Father with spirit and truth during the past 19 centuries outside, and independent of, any Jerusalem-like, organizational arrangement,
claimed to have been appointed as the only acceptable way to worship God and gain salvation, by the various sects and creeds of man, who flatly contradict Jesus' word and intent for His disciples, and us today.
Even in the first century, salvation did not come through the Christian Congregation, inasmuch as being an accepted member in its midst did not guarantee Divine approval of one's worship,
which essentially takes place in secret, in the heart of the individual, rather than in outward profession and association with fellow believers in an 'approved' organization - even if presided over by Christ's own apostles, as it was back then.
The only approved arrangement for worship today is, therefore, the having of faith in Christ as full and final payment for our sins - to the complete reconciliation with the Father - upon our hearing the Good News, as it is still preached by ALL religions of Christendom, including the WT.
Do that, and you will have everlasting life, it's really that simple, Anthony - what are you looking for in the Body of Christ? If you needed them to explain the 'true faith' in Christ to you, how could you ever distinguish someone who truly is anointed from someone who only claims to be?
The Churches, of course, make it out that upon hearing the message from them - as if it originated with them - that you then also owe it to them to support, submit to and acknowledge them as mediators and gate-keepers between you and God - even if only subtly implied by their clever and unscrupulous twisting of Scripture.
However, the world today is in such a mess, not for lack of hearing the Gospel of Christ - which has spread and is known throughout our 'global village' by now - but because there really are only a few people in whose hearts the truth has positively taken root,
and no amount of religious cajoling and shaming of people into membership with any of 'God's spirit directed organizations' is going to turn anyone into a real Christian,
quite the opposite, it just turns more people with 'good intentions' into self-righteous Pharisees, giving Christianity a bad name by blaspheming the God of Truth with the lies of their respective religious teachings and corrupt practices.
If, by contrast, any honest hearted person happens to 'chance' upon a member of Christ's Body, such a one will unchain him into the glorious freedom with which Christ set us free - from sin and servitude to man-made religion - not enslave him to another form of religious observance, organized and administered by man, supposedly in the 'name of God.'
Quote- “Of course, when the global imitation 'kingdom of God' becomes operational - which will mislead the entire inhabited earth, and if possible even the chosen ones - it will naturally fall upon them, as the only ones not being deceived, to speak out and denounce it as being from Satan, at which crucial point in history the eternal destiny of some 7 billion people will be decided, depending on whether or not they give heed to the globally publicized message of condemnation and doom, preached by the body of Christ against the NWO paradise-party, then in full swing to everybody's delight.” End quote
So based on the above statement, we can count Pat Roberson as one of the members of the body???
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4576126608705279626&hl=en#
The above link is Cronkite speaking about empowering the United Nations and goes on to state that the reason that the U.N. does not have the power that it should have and for that matter why America rejected the League of Nations after the first world war, is because,
(starting at 13:00-14:05)
quote “there are a handful of willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow , selfish, political objectives at the cost of our nations conscious. (In other words, “following their Christian beliefs.”) They pander to and are supported by the Christian coalition and the rest of the religious right-wing. Their leader Pat Robinson has written in a book..a few years ago,
“That we should have a world government, But only when the messiah arrives.(Laughter from crowd) Any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the devil.” end quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4aNP6WdfKc
Anthony,
that is an interesting and rather ironic angle you bring up there, and one that condemns the WT-anointed even more, if such a thing were possible.
Even Satan's stooges in Christendom blatantly spill the beans on their master's NWO conspiracy, but the 'faithful' WT-whore does not even ONCE in all her reams of publications warn about the incoming kingdom that will be followed with admiration by all those dwelling on the earth,
which is kind of ironic, since the WT is supposed to be on the watch for precisely that kind of development, which will mislead the entire inhabited earth.
Hence it is even more damning on the WT that YHWH has to use spiritual 'contractors' in order to blow at least some sort of whistle for the befuddled public and the tens of millions of people misled by the Witnesses who now believe that the world is about to be taken over by the promised kingdom of God.
Of course, knowing about the coming NWO is no guarantee for withstanding the temptation of joining in the fun, but being totally ignorant of Satan's designs has got to be even worse, don't you think?
As for the Body of Christ in its day being labelled 'right-wing fundamentalist' by the Talmudic, Neo-Bolshevik NWO populist scum - that would not at all surprise me.
Well spotted, though.
Proxy, I am trying to get an straight forward answer from you regarding your statement;
quote-“ Once you know what to look for, it is not too difficult to tell them apart even before the revealing of the sons of God after the end of the great tribulation on Christianity.” end quote
quote-"one of the thousands of members of Christ's Body in exile who are accomplishing God's work for the approaching time of the end." end quote
I asked you; where are these true members of Christ's body? Show me what they are accomlishing? But you fail to answer, instead you like to always bring up the WTS every chance you get, when I myself didn’t even refer to them but instead was speaking of Pat Robertson. But since you did refer to the WTS in the following statement, I will respond.
You said:
quote- “but the 'faithful' WT-whore does not even ONCE in all her reams of publications warn about the incoming kingdom that will be followed with admiration by all those dwelling on the earth, which is kind of ironic, since the WT is supposed to be on the watch for precisely that kind of development, which will mislead the entire inhabited earth.” End quote
(I am not able to post on this site the following WT excerpts in the manner that I would like, meaning highlighting, underlining and bolding, etc…, but regardless they speak for themselves.)
"What Does the Future Hold for the United Nations?"
THE United Nations is evidently entering an era of renewed vigor and prominence on the world scene. In the near future it will be involved in events of world-shaking impact. Why is this so?
"WHAT BIBLE PROPHECY REVEALS"
The answer as to what the future holds for the United Nations is…found in the inspired Word of God, the Bible, and its prophecies. Present-day events and trends confirm the rightness of those prophecies.
In the Bible, political world powers are represented under the symbol of beasts. (See Daniel 7:17, 23; 8:20-22.) Chapter 17 of the book of Revelation foretells a composite political organization, combining in itself the remnants of the world powers of history. It is represented under the symbol of a seven-headed beast (each head representing a world power, as counted on the basis of its effect on the servants of the true God) with ten horns, the horns representing the totality of earthly political governments.
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As prophetically represented, these distinct symbolic kings “have one thought.” (Rev. 17:13) That is, even though they disagree on numerous proposals, they are united in their determination to employ a human scheme for establishing lasting peace and security on a global scale. In so doing, they reject God’s own provision for accomplishing this: his kingdom by means of Christ Jesus.
Therefore the prophecy shows this international political organization as fighting against God’s appointed King and those on his side of the issue. This makes inevitable the ultimate destruction of that composite political organization and all its members and supporters, thereby making way for God’s own government of earth.—Rev. 17:14; compare Daniel 2:44.
But before it passes off the earthly scene, that composite political organization will fulfill another feature of divine prophecy. The Bible shows that the organization’s member nations have long been under the deceitful domination of worldly religious systems, these forming a world empire of false religion pictured in Revelation by a harlotrous woman named “Babylon the Great.” But prophecy shows that the political powers will tire of the hypocrisy, the meddling, the demands of the harlotrous religious systems and will turn against them, utterly devastating them.—Rev. 17:1-6, 15-18.
Strange as it may seem, just when this global organization appears to reach the zenith of its prominence, seemingly on the threshold of establishing a political foundation for peace and security, it will simultaneously near the point of its own downfall. As the apostle Paul was inspired to write: “Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.” (1 Thess. 5:2, 3) And, although after such proclamation this world organization will engage in its most dramatic and world-shaking act—the destruction of the world empire of false religion—that act will not protect it from being destroyed itself by God as a counterfeit, a futile and rebellious attempt to substitute a political setup for God’s promised kingdom.
"When All Nations Unite Under God’s Kingdom"
Have we reason, then, to expect that the United Nations will prove to be a satisfying man-made substitute for “God’s kingdom”? Let us not forget that the United Nations is the successor of the League of Nations, and that during its existence before World War II the League of Nations was religiously called the “political expression of the kingdom of God on earth.”
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Today, amid a world in turmoil, these united ones out of all the nations are an example of unity on a global scale, and this in spite of their own inherited human imperfections and weaknesses. Not to the United Nations, but to these exemplary people we must turn and ask, What is the secret of their loving, peaceful unity? How do they attain to it?
"HOW THEY DO IT"
They attain it because they have accepted, not the United Nations, but God’s kingdom as the only hope of humanity. They have accepted God’s kingdom by Christ as the rightful ruler of the whole world,..
"A Disgusting Thing” Fails to Bring Peace"
“When you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains.”—LUKE 21:20, 21.
In the first century, Jesus announced God’s Kingdom and offered peaceable ones the opportunity to become sons of God and corulers with him in that Kingdom. (Matthew 4:23; 5:9; Luke 12:32) The events that followed were very similar to events in our own century. Examining them will teach us much about the future course of man’s “peace and security” organization, the United Nations.
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“The Disgusting Thing Today"
12 What, then, is the modern “disgusting thing that causes desolation”? In the first century it was the Roman troops sent to reimpose Pax Romana in Jerusalem. In modern times, however, the nations that fought in World War I became disillusioned about the usefulness of all-out war in imposing peace and experimented with something new: an international organization to preserve world peace. This began life in 1919 as the League of Nations and still exists as the United Nations. Here is the modern “disgusting thing that causes desolation.”
Anthony,
first of all it would be helpful to include the dates of the publications you quote to enable contextualization of their content - not that that is going to mitigate the bias in their interpretation or atone for their misleading and deceptive content.
Secondly, I have discovered nothing new in those quotes - it is just the same old twist on Scriptures used in such a way as to suit the WT theology of distinguishing itself from Christendom.
There are, of course, more individuals and sects in the rest of Christendom exposing the U.N. than the few skewed references of the WT-anointed, which do more to cover up the NWO plot than to shed any sort of light on it - do the research, and see for yourself.
Just give me a list of how many times all WT publications combined over the past 120 years mention a successful NWO ruling the planet, and we shall see just who is warning mankind of the dangers of internationalism, globalization and the deep ecology movement, to name but a few.
Where does the WT warn people of the insidious politics behind indigenism, environmentalism and political correctness?
Who tells the world about 'hate crime' legislation and the kind of people behind its introduction into the law-books of all the nations, and what it will lead to?
Who warns people about supra-national political organizations like the OSCE and NGO's like the WWF and their occult connections?
Who recently highlighted that a bloc of largely socialist counties grouped around Bolivia have introduced to the U.N. general assembly the proposal that 'mother earth' should be given the same 'human rights' granted to 'her' inhabitants, and just what this worship of 'mother earth' has got to do with the coming apostasy that Paul foretold to take place just before Christ's parousia?
Did you read about that in the latest WT or Awake magazines?
The very concept of a global apostasy from the profession of Christianity, immediately preceding the start of Christ's parousia return as foretold by Paul, is covered up and interpreted away with smoke and mirrors by the scheming 'WT-oracles.'
All you'll ever read in their literature is how the NWO is not going to happen, and that YHWH is not going to allow united, global devil worship, as prophesied in Revelation 13!
Please, show me just ONE quote in the up to 400,000 pages of published WT material where the society correctly identifies the NWO as the beast that will be given authority over ALL NATIONS - and followed with admiration by ALL THE EARTH - and that will put under compulsion ALL THOSE DWELLING ON THE EARTH to receive its mark, on pain of total social and economic boycott?
Instead the WT explains the mark of the beast as pertaining to a few thousand JW's facing blood transfusion or flag salute issues as constituting 'ALL those who dwell on the earth.'
Yes, that is all that the WT-world seems to be composed of - talk about navel gazing ignoramuses!
And the beast is supposed to symbolize 'all political rulerships' over the past 6000 years - what a lot of lies invalidating the very Word of God, obscuring and abetting the secret NWO plot warned about in Revelation 13!
According to the WT there is not going to be a NWO by the U.N. or any other entity that will have tyrannical rulership over the whole world, because according to them, the next kingdom that will take over the whole inhabited earth is 'God's kingdom' - the one that has been ruling the world since 1914.
Please give me a list of other sects and individuals in the rest of Christendom who are falsely proclaiming the parousia of Christ as already in full swing for almost a century, if you can find any.
So who, then, told you that the incoming kingdom is not going to be from God, but Satan's NWO, as identified in Revelation 13? It wasn't the WT-anointed, now was it?
Who then is preaching the good news of the kingdom IN TRUTH today?
The followers of the WT-christ, who has been ruling the world since 1914?
And you are asking what works the Body of Christ is presently engaged in?
Behold it, you scorners, and wonder at it, and vanish away, because I am working a work in your days, a work that you will by no means believe even if anyone relates it to you in detail!
As to Pat Robertson and the rest of Christendom, you heard me say that nobody believing or teaching a lie - or even belonging to an organization engaged in such practices - can, by definition, be a member of Christ, and that this applies equally to the trinity lie as to the 1914 lie - so what was your question again?
And besides, you got Moses and the Prophets; listen to them - why do you want to see someone risen from the dead in order to believe?
With whom shall I compare this generation? It is like young children sitting in the marketplaces who cry out to their playmates, saying: 'We played the flute for you, but your choreography was not to our liking,' - all the same, wisdom is proved righteous by all its children.
First thing, I speak and read English and English is what you are writing in, but yet you choose to always write the unpronounceable YHWH.
Didn’t Jesus say? (John 17:6) “I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. (John 17:26) And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, (Matthew 6:9) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.
And how about (Psalm 22:22) I will declare your name to my brothers; In the middle of the congregation I shall praise you.
13 For “everyone who calls on the name of “blank” (PROXY fill in the blank) will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach?
Second, like I said about the excerpts, they speak for themselves. That being said, I don’t belong to the WTS. Never have…. For that matter, I have never belonged to any church. But I know that they fascinate you. You just can’t stop yourself from going on and on about them.
And if the best you can say to answer my questions is; quote “Behold it, you scorners, and wonder at it, and vanish away, because I am working a work in your days, a work that you will by no means believe even if anyone relates it to you in detail!….. And besides, you got Moses and the Prophets; listen to them.” End quote… then it is obvious that you are full of it and have no answers to give. (ironic coming from a guy who uses a name that is used as a general term for predicting the unfolding of events)
You are a fool !!!
Anthony,
that's right, I do the writing of the Divine Name in its correct form, and you have the problem of not being able to pronounce it properly - if you happen to read out loud, that is - because God saw fit to hide the correct vowels that would make it possible for man in the end-time to actually curse Him by His Name - a pretty smart move by the Almighty, don't you think?
As to knowing His Name and making it known to others, you people never cease to amaze me with your assumption that such a thing could actually be accomplished by substituting the original vowels of the Divine Name with the entirely unrelated vowel markings for the word Adonai, to give the obviously wrong pronunciation 'Jehovah.'
Even more telling is the complete ignorance of you people, in that even if you somehow knew and used the correct pronunciation of God's Name, your superstitious spreading of it far and wide would not, in fact, do anything to glorify Him, while you people are dishonouring Him by your apostasy and spreading of lies in His Name.
Just like the Pharisees of old in their self-righteous God-bothering failed to perceive that honouring God's law could not be accomplished by wearing it in boxes tied to their forehead,
so too you people are sorely mistaken in thinking that salvation derives from your profuse usage of the Adonai vowels supplied to the Tetragrammaton, like a good-luck charm tied to your forehead, to distinguish you from all 'lesser' believers in the same God of the Bible.
Yes, those knowing His Name will take refuge in Him - but what does it actually mean to know His Name?
For example, you may be familiar with the personal names of many rich and powerful people, but would you feel comfortable or even confident to approach them to help you out when you are struggling with hard times?
Will your calling out their names perhaps impress them, and incline them to consider you as one of their friends?
But that is exactly what you are setting people up for with your imaginary spreading of the knowledge of God, as supposedly conveyed by the mere utterance of His Name, which ironically is so similar, in effect, to the 'Praise the Lord' babble employed by the rest of Christendom - if only you knew it.
As to Jesus making known the Name of His Father, go and read how many times He uses YHWH in the Gospel accounts when not quoting from the OT, and let me know if you can find even a single occurrance of it.
So Jesus obviously succeeded in making known His Father's Name without the incessant and gratuitous mentioning of it in His ministry - why can't you people be doing the same and thus follow His example, as you always claim to do?
I hope I haven't become your enemy by telling you the truth - because God sees fit to use the foolishness of what we preach to save those believing.
As for my ongoing exposing of the WT as a sect of Christendom whose works are wicked, it is even so written:
What we know we speak, and what we have seen we bear witness of, but you people do not accept the witness we give,
We originate with God. He that gains the knowledge of God listens to us; he that does not originate with God does not listen to us.
This is how we take note of the inspired expression of truth and the inspired expression of error, which is preached by the WT anointed regarding their fake 1914 parousia, for example.
There are a number of things that I was going to address in a response back to you, but every time I start to write it out, I realize that there is no point. You have proving to me that you are clueless.
You have at times got my attention in your responses to Robert’s writings, and I have waited to hear his reply, and since he doesn’t, it allows for what you say to almost appear like you know what you are talking about. But after only a few exchanges with you from myself, I see that Robert’s reason for not responding to you is not because he is not able to over turn what you say, but rather it would be a waste of time to interact with you being the fool you are.
You know, there are people you can talk to and medications that can help those that are under delusions. :)